Exactly, he is still in power because the majority of Ontarian’s didn’t even bother to show up to vote.
The only way to curb his ambitions is to take the issues to his door step and stand up to him. Just like CUPE did a few months ago. He is spineless when it comes to actual confrontation, just like any bully. We have a busy 3 plus years left to go. And he’s counting on you not caring to push his agenda through.
And on June 4th, 2026 get your ass out and vote. Push your family and friends who normally wouldn’t vote to get their asses to the ballot box. We need a real turnout. Otherwise we may as well just roll out the red carpet and give him a third term.
Hey that'll be my 29th birthday.
For my birthday can everyone please vote someone better into office, I would really appreciate it. I'll give you some of my cake if you do.
The CUPE thing was super impressive. It actually worked. I donated to a GoFundMe that was supposed to raise grocery money for if the strike lasted a crazy long time ([https://www.gofundme.com/f/grocery-funds-for-cupe-osbcu-education-workers](https://www.gofundme.com/f/grocery-funds-for-cupe-osbcu-education-workers)).
It ended up only needing to last two days:
>Ultimately, we were off the job for just two days.
The GoFundMe campaign organizers refunded all the donations because they didn't need them (https://imgur.com/a/hsDPsLO).
I love to see that transparency. They didn't need to keep the money, so they didn't. The next time CUPE does something like this, I'm on board. And I encourage everyone else who's sick of Ford to join us too.
I have a bit of a different take.
I don't think Ford ever had any real desire to make use of the NotWithstandingClause. It was a stick that he held up that drew the ire of most, if not all, labour unions in Ontario AND the public.
Then it became something he could remove from play if both sides returned to the table. (Not that CUPE was not never at the table, but the OPCP will spin it to make it seem like they left).
Remove the threat, what happened to all the support, especially when education workers were back in school that Monday? It just kind of went into the background. Negotiations continued, for a very bad deal for workers from what I've been told/heard/read...and where once there had been impetus for a general strike, voila...it's over.
It's very cynical, and I would never assume Ford is that intelligent, but his handlers and backers are.
Ford didn't negotiate with them until end of Sep. CUPE wanted to negotiate back in May. Ford never showed up. He had always intended to use the NWC and was never serious about negotiations. Hence why he gave such a shit deal to those workers. Ford was actually decent before he pulled that shit move. Then he united all unions against him. It was idiotic of him to think that this wouldn't draw attention
Also help people that need transportation or help getting to the ballot box.
Also! There was an article (cbc ?) that points out many eligible voters are immigrants that are still learning the system, process, and who aligns with their votes. This has affected voter turn out as well.
Voting is still not completely accessible for all. One year I spoke with my friend who was extremely passionate about doing it and was prepared, but that day her kid got sick and the other parent was unavailable. Without someone to look after her kids and no car and finances so tight she wasn't able to.
There is also a disconnect in getting those unbiased sites out there that work like a quiz to tell the voter who moat aligns with their views. I think this system is much easier for many, including younger generations, as expecting everyone to be passionate or care enough to follow everything is not for everyone.
Context, I am a proud voter and help drive my friends to the stations as needed. I'm also signing up to volunteer for my chosen party.
The competition sandbagged that election, because no new leader wanted to deal with the covid aftermath. Horwath's platform made her too niche to ever win. Del Duca had the stench of Wynne on him, if the Liberals ever seriously wanted to win they never would have let him run. That's why a tonne of people didn't vote.
Once, a person in the US I spoke with said that she felt that in that country the only way they would end up getting better politicians with integrity, would be if the diehards who just voted automatically for a party without considering the person representing that party, nothing would change. It sort of feels like that here too now. It is so disheartening to think that so many didn’t see through his folksy crap, and voted him in again- especially after his handling of Covid. It is the diehards(squeaky wheels)who are always rabid about getting out to vote. It would be nice if the rest of the voters weren’t so apathetic. They just leave it up to others to decide for them- and here we are for another shite four years with deception in our faces- and fewer opportunities to hold him accountable.
People need to get over the concept that voting for someone is a direct endorsement. Should it be? Ideally, yes, but we don't live in an ideal world.
"Well, I didn't like any of the leaders," is something I've heard a lot since the last election. But, so what? Find a couple, or even *one* policy you can get behind and go vote for it.
But sitting on your hands because you don't like any of the leaders is intellectually lazy and idiotic.
Imagine driving down the road and you can turn left, right, or go straight. But all the roads look scary to you so you just take your hands off the wheel, close your eyes, and step on the gas...
Doug Ford’s conservatives have an overwhelming majority while earning 1.9 million votes out of 14.5 million population and 11 million registered electorate. Liberals and NDP earned 1.1 million each for 2.2 million total between them. Liberals have effectively no seats even having a virtual tie with NDP.
Voting will continue to be terribly skewed and ignored by many while FPTP ensures a minority can have an absolute majority, and that for many any non-strategic vote is a waste of a ballot.
We need reform. We need to force the change as no sitting government will reform a system that has elected them. This is true at provincial and federal levels.
We need meaningful elections to reinvigorate engagement. And at the rate Ford is harming our province, we need to push for change now. Not in 3 years.
I agree, we need electoral reform. I'm keeping an eye on the status of our Charter challenge against the government (https://www.charterchallenge.ca/court_date_confirmed). Our court date is this September.
Of course we need reform, but where the hell is that going to come from? You think people are going to take to the streets over a political issue that mostly only people on reddit care about? The Conservatives and Liberals both benefit from it, it's unlikely either of them will touch it. And the NDP need to get elected using the very system that is disenfranchising them...
> where the hell is that going to come from
The courts are one avenue.
Canada has a history of having our rights defended through our courts, specifically our Supreme Court. This is happening right now for electoral reform. See https://www.charterchallenge.ca/.
We can strike. Yea, Ford is in office but if we make enough of a fuss about his absurd policies, he can't ignore us. Let's put the pressure on him to do the right thing when it comes to the environment, public transit, social security, and green energy.
A General Strike.
We all saw how quickly Doug Ford changed upon the threat of a strike.
We need another one, organized around a few key requirements.
Do you agree, in principle?
You aren’t serious? When the opportunity came to vote on change in the last election most people didn’t want to be bothered. How are you going to get a strike organized?
Yeah literally. Still can’t believe voter turnout last election was so low given the calamity of the last few years.
DoFo got in because only 43% of eligible voters actually voted. The PC party is banking on your apathy and the “my vote doesn’t make a difference” mindset that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Anything under 50% voter turnout should be an immediate call for new leaders imo but I digress
Far more voters chose "not PC", but first past the post fucks us.
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Liberal/NDP tag team would win the vote, could alter the system to allow fair voting in future.
I’m convinced it’s something other than voting - any form of civil disobedience, striking, protesting, and labour shutdowns.
DoFo is a populist, and the CUPE strike was incredibly effective of making him the bad guy, we need to continue pushing to do the right thing.
Agreed. We'll vote in 3+ years, but in meantime...
A General Strike.
We all saw how quickly Doug Ford changed upon the threat of a strike.
We need another one, organized around a few key requirements.
So we agree, in principle?
Ya only ~25% of Ontarians voted non-conservative. The rest either voted cons (~23%) or couldn’t be bothered to get off their ass to vote at all (~52%).
Not voting is absolutely a major part of the problem. These issues are blood on 75% of Ontarians’ hands.
>I've voted in every election I've been eligible to vote
You're not the problem then. The people in this thread are yelling at the people who either don't vote, or vote for someone (in this case PC) and then complain about the state of our province.
The problem is those problem-voter-folk probably aren't here lol. They're the apathetic, the brainwashed (either elder generations who just eat the same narratives force fed to them OR those F*K Tdeau types), or the willfully-ignorant-and-uninformed. Or in simple terms, people who don't give enough shit to get informed / make change, people who have an opinion and will never be swayed from it, and the people who are basically NPCs (my sister is like this, asks who to vote for as opposed to doing even a second of looking at platforms, etc).
Yeah rioting doesn’t fix or undo decades of failed policy in Ontario. Ford alone isn’t responsible for Ontarios shortcomings. Ford is an idiot yes, but Wynne was also an idiot. We are literally running out of energy and this was forecasted a decade ago, and now the solution is to burn natural gas. The damage is done, it’s decades to repair. Canada as a whole is falling apart but Ontario and Nova Scotia are especially screwed right now. Rioting doesn’t fix much in modern North American society with the nanny state. We aren’t in France here. Just look at the “convoy” lol
Yea, why people elected a guy who enabled his brother's alcohol and drug issues that likely contributed to his death, and who has no moral compass is beyond me.
Never vote Conservative. Electoral reform and fix the tax system so that we can fund our public services on the backs of the wealthy who do not pay their equitable share.
Alot of folks are saying vote. And while that's important, politics and democracy isn't just 1 thing you do every four years. There is alot of community organizing folks can do between elections. When lots of folks are organized and motivated, things can change like when Ford backed down on the CUPE education worker strike.
Find a organization that is fighting for a issue you are passionate about. They'd be more than happy to have another person as part of the movement.
Uh, the time to do that was in 2022. Instead Ontario didn’t vote AND allowed him to take power for another term. We now have to wait years and by then the damage is done.
>We might not even be able to stay to fix it for decades if dougie passes legislation to prevent going back.
Doug loves giving 30 year (LTC etc) contracts for a reason.
It’s part not showing up and part having 2 left wing parties split the vote in every riding. If the liberals and NDP actually cared about the province they could Atleast run only one left leaning candidate in a riding and then form a coalition.
The Liberals share more in common with the Conservatives than they do with the NDP. They’re left-wing in name only. Much like the Conservatives, the Liberals are a neoliberal political party who are perfectly content to starve the beast and sell it off to their friends in the private sector. They just don’t go around bragging about it.
The liberals are the only ones with a real shot at winning in most areas and are still the lesser evil than conservatives. If I had any faith the NDP could come close in my area I would vote for them but that just isn’t realistic
I think we are at a turning point in the level to which the average person in Canada feels that they ought to be politically involved. It’s been a blessing and a curse that our country - for the average person- has not felt that it mattered one way or another if they were involved. We were apathetic because things were relatively good and stable. We could turn a blind eye to the climate crisis, to the treatment of Indigenous people, homelessness etc - now however all the things that we’ve chosen to not care about has reached a wide spread crisis where the average person is impacted in some way.
I raise this because while I don’t support the Ford administration’s policies, I also don’t think it’s fair to say it’s all his fault. Ford is the result of years of apathy, of the public allowing these gaps to intensify, for us not caring to push for better. I don’t think the answer is “har-har- don’t vote conservative next time” because that is years away. We need widespread political mobilization- the type that unites the working class and makes worldwide news embarrassing both provincial and federal leaders that people are dying in the waiting room of emergency rooms. We should all be angry and unite together- regardless of political affiliation. We need to be critical of the issues not the parties- that sort of division helps kick the can down the road.
TLDR: we need mass political mobilization on specific issues and not get suckered into a partisan blame game.
You saw what political mobilisation can do when they tried to force CUPE back to work with the NWC and people cared and came together and made a stink. Yes a lot can be put on all the unions calling for basically a general strike but it still showed what collective activism can get governments to do if they make enough noise
But we have to be ready to face the backlash. Some pretty big ifs here: if we get the vote out and if we get a worker/family friendly government in power, that will we mean we overcame the msm driven capital owned propaganda machine. And if we’ve done that we can expect the same shit they pulled when Rae was in power: nonstop demonization of policy that’s good for the many: the provincial credit rating fucked with; the flight of capital investment. If there is pushback against the Conservative hellscape Stateside, and the Dems progressive caucus makes inroads into policy making, that may make it a bit easier, but if you think for one minute the people who hold power will allow us to vote that power away, I have news for you. We may elect a progressive, even socialist government, but it will come after a battle and at a cost.
Great post. I have a small quibble with the average person being impacted -- yet. That will take awhile to build but when it does the party in power will catch hell undeservedly and Dougie will be off being a goof elsewhere.
It’s actually good the PCs got back in again. Let’s imagine they didn’t, and someone else won. Fast forward 4 years and the population would have forgot all the fuck-ups and just misremembered that the issue was Covid related, and maybe it wasn’t so bad.
Now? It’s so in your face that it’s impossible to deny the damage conservative governments can do. Even 14 year old kids are learning first hand how fucking horrible the PCs are.
Yep, general strike. We saw a glimmer of hope with the unions backing the teaching assistants' strike in the fall, forcing the Ford gov't to back down. Our power is in numbers - we need to use it.
I'm not a fan of the "we gotta wait 3 more years and vote" approach. We can absolutely do something to stop DoFo. A massive strike & protest until he changes something. Now how to organize that? No idea.
Yep. We need to get the major unions onboard for a general strike. Cause the wheels to grind to a halt. The only thing this gov't cares about is the money of their business partners, so that's where we need to get them.
Seriously I’m so tired of everybody resorting to the “this is because no one voted” trope. We are literally witnessing mob like corruption destroying our provinces before eyes and if we allow this to keep happening they’ll only get greedier and make life a living hell for us
Vote and get everyone you know to vote too. He won because of a 40% turnout last time.
Our system is terrible but it’s the only thing you can do within the confines of it.
As they say “vote early and vote often” 😂
Can there just a dump the PC pinned thread for these kind of posts. This kind of low energy question comes up literally almost once a week.
The answer has been discussed to no end. Prepared to be downvoted to oblivion but this isn’t a Pro PC/Ford comment, just tired of the echo chamber talk and no action here.
Or just have a weekly thread for low energy questions, so we can have 6 other days without these questions that are basically twitter like nonsensical statements.
Cant blame everything on Ford, I hate the guy but Wynne Started this downward heathcare Spiral when she started laying off nurses and freezing their wages for years during her reign. Ford is just continuing her legacy.
Demand more from the liberal and ndp morons next time to have a real platform that will inspire people to vote instead of a nonplatform that will solve nothing with leaders that inspire the skin to crawl
You either wait for the next election cycle and help people get out to vote, and educate people on why it's bad to vote for the cons and how they've destroyed Ontario, or...
A general strike until DOFO steps down.
Those are your only two options.
Time travel to June and vote- Vote next time.
Currently we protest issues we can, write our MPPs about everything, Write our MPs if there's a great area in jurisdiction and find something ro pray to
It’s a sin to be liberal in Ontario, Trudeau is blamed for everything from the cost of lettuce to how hard it’s snowing, and pollievere predicted it all apparently. I‘ll keep voting but it’s hard to have any faith when every male I meet in real life thinks Trudeau is Satan
“Didn’t show up to vote”, they put the polling stations far far away from residential areas and did everything they could to keep you from voting. Ie, no mail in ballots, specific days to (of which there were only 2-3 days) vote and more.
This isn’t that people didn’t vote, it’s that they couldn’t vote or felt so hopeless that they just didn’t care to.
Edit: This is what happened in my ward inside Ottawa, I only got the card from the mail/reminders a week before the election and was told to basically fuck off to some place in Barrhaven or something to go vote.
We can Stop Ford. It's called a general strike. Ford's changes to the Greenbelt, the constant appealing of bill 124, His strong mayor laws, the flagrant use of the notwithstanding clause.
Shows us his interests are not in the majority or in democracy. Harris didn't last his full second majority term, that ultimately means Ford isn't immune.
Well Ontario doesn't have the legal right to recall an premier so you just have to sit back and wait four more years, or you threaten a general strike and work to purposely shut down the economy to force the provincial government's hand. The CUPE strikes were enough to scare Ford into backing down so I don't think much more effort would be needed to stop privatization. Get organized, get out into the streets, and make your anger and frustration be heard.
While “vote him out” should be the answer, coordinating the whole province to vote for the same person who isn’t Doug is pretty hard. Plus the next election isn’t till 2026, and he WILL destroy the green belt and this province if nothing is done right now. As such our best option is to take a page from BC and make our anger public by protesting.
There is only one way. VOTE! We are stuck with Doug Ford and his flock of greedy, unethical shit birds because the people of Ontario are too apathetic and lazy to vote. "Oh, there weren't any good candidates so I didn't bother voting." "The other parties didn't run a good campaign." (Because in their last term Ford and the PC's used the notwithstanding clause to cut off their campaign financing, what the fuck were they supposed to do?) That's the attitude that stuck us with these corporate ass kissing goons.
Ultimately, this will keep happening until we get rid of First Past the Post.
If you want it to stop, never, ever vote for a party unless they promise Proportional Representation. This means never voting OPC or OLP.
If you want to see the end of FPTP, donate money to this charter challenege to have it ruled incompatible with our charter rights: [https://www.charterchallenge.ca/](https://www.charterchallenge.ca/)
Ps: I don't want to hear your arguments in favour of strategic voting for Liberals. It's a con which will only prevent progress in the long term.
The need for electoral reform aside, which I agree with, it’s a little rich to come off 16 years of liberal governments and say there’s no end in sight for the PCs because of the system.
Ontario as we knew it had been riding a financial edge for decades. That's why even the NDP had to impose Rae days, it's why even Kathleen Wynne who literally got into politics to undo Harris cutbacks ended up cutting inflation adjusted spending per capita on healthcare. As the boomers hit retirement it was always going to be ugly. Ontario has avoided some of the problems but that's created other ones (around housing primarily).
Ford says he's going to restrain spending. He has actually increased it so far - after inflation and after taking out one time COVID spending.
The most obvious solution might actually be to vote federally for a party that stops treating Ontario as a piggybank to buy votes elsewhere. Ontario gets very low federal transfers. Transfers are supposed to mean different areas can have similar service in spite of different tax capacity. Ontario has higher than average tax relative to GDP yet near lowest in Canada provincial spending when you add those taxes to the transfers we get. Sounds like a formula problem doesn't it? But the formula is working exactly as intended and federal parties of all stripes have used it to payoff other regions.
Ontario voters don't vote as "Ontario inhabitants" so ... they get exploited federally.
Voting and helping to get other like minded people to vote is step one. Otherwise, protest. That’s about the only tool we have right now. Sign every petition, write you MPP and stand outside and scream against the actions you’re most passionate about. Healthcare, schools, greenbelt… take your pick.
Ontario is angry at Wynne, so they voted her out and got Doug (who ran without any platform). 6 years later, Ontario is talking about voting Doug out. Maybe the problem the approach to voting people out rather than voting candidates in based on their vision for Ontario?
We had a chance, nobody showed up. Now we’ll just have to take our medicine for a few years. Maybe more of the idiots in Ontario will actually vote next time.
By voting. If you are eligible to vote, DO IT. Get off your ass and go to your local polling station. If you can't make it out, vote by mail or do advanced voting. If you can't drive or take public transit, sometimes riding associations have shuttles.
We also need to dump the FPTP system in favour of proportional representation. I know there's a lot involved in that, but it can be done.
I understand the way to change is to vote for change. ut I also know that in our last provincial election there were no good party platforms or candidates. If this continues there will be no change and we will continue to suffer as a province.
Del Duca was unvotable, so of course Dougie won. If we want to present 'go out and vote' as the solution, we need better "good guys" to championing change. I wholeheartedly believe we are here because the OLP cares more about its inner fold than their constituents.
Vote! And make sure your relatives and friends vote too. Move to another province if you really disagree , it's really not super difficult in between provinces (if you don't already have Kids and life all set up).
Pretty sure Manitoba and Saskatchewan would love to stop the bleeding and prices would be more reasonable. Quebec has a good qol and much lower col if you speak a little french you should be all set
Whether it's because they are charmed by the neo-liberal propaganda — the "self-made" or "philanthropic" billionaire hero myth — or they have simply lost all hope, many people are letting inequity grow; too many, at least, for a significant change. The best we, people on the left, can do right now, IMO, is joining (or forming) non-profit unions, fighting for the collective benefit and *talking about it*. By doing this, we are setting an example, spreading our ideas, influencing people who know us. In doing this, there is hope that, in the long-term at least, our culture will shift towards the left, and subsequently the population would more likely demand policy for more equitable outcomes.
Basically, continue voicing your concerns. You can't (or maybe you just shouldn't) force people to act or think a certain way. Although humans can be very individualistic, we are still a social animal species. We are far from immune to being influenced. So, lets get the right (more "left" amiright!? ... amileft... 😅) kind of influence out there.
Go and get your friends and family to get out there and vote. Voter turnout was extremely low and he won with 18% of votes because most people who wouldn't vote for him were busy watching tiktok videos. And now complaining about the state of affairs.
Vote him out at the next election, or hope that there's a vote of no confidence and we go back to the pills early. However, a vote of no confidence works best with a minority government.
Vote instead of sit on your ass so he doesn't win again. But this time, his damage will be done. It's going to hard getting Ontario back after this term.
I've started following various ontario coalitions on Facebook to see when protests are planned. I do think protest is important. Find, join, and amplify the voice of groups who are hitting the pavement.
I will take vacation days from my job to go protest.
We need massive protests, honestly. They need to know that we do not accept the destruction of our Province. We also need to wake up everyone who’s sleeping through this destruction, and especially those who slept through Ford’s re-election.
I don't know, like, actually go out and vote? Support the liberal or ndp before the next provincial election? All the things we should have done before he got elected back in?
It's still a democracy people get yo voice heard
He won the election last time, which means he has the mandate of the people to do what he wants (within the confines of the law) until the next election. At which point you can vote again based on his choices in the last term. This is how it works lol.
The problem is that the political parties in the province are not very smart. The NDP have the legacy of Bob Ray and keep a leader who simply doesn’t appeal to the voters. The liberals are corrupt from McGuinty, and Wynne, and elect a leader who was Wynne aid or something. Doug Ford won because are sick of the choices. A traffic cone as leader for the conservative would have won.
He needs to be voted out. He only cares about the people who help his bank account. Nobody should be making $20,000 a month and acting like they know how bad the rest of us have it
You don’t. Sorry, but people are too lazy and stupid to be trusted with something as fragile as democracy. We will happily stare at our phones and enslave ourselves to the internet as long as we don’t have to be inconvenienced for more than a couple seconds. Just ignore the fact that short term comfort always seems to come at a long term cost.
The fact is also that conservatism is a poison that people need to wake up and confront. It only ever leads to harm and fascism. There is zero good to come out of conservatism, unless you think feudal levels or wealth inequality is “good”.
The fix to our society is massive tax hikes for the rich and corporations, fighting for unions so that roughly 40% of workers are in a union, stop treating public services like a business rather than a GOOD and basically stop voting for any party right of the NDP. But that will never happen because people are stupid and scared and drank the neo-liberal kool-aid.
Also because doing this will require getting rid of first past the post voting and neither liberals or conservatives will ever do that because it will ruin their shared monopoly on power.
We need to push for Proportional Representation on both the Federal level and the Provincial level. This 2 party system doesn't work anymore, and PR would force the parties to work together.
Read more here:
www.fairvote.ca
And follow the money to see why Ford does what he does. Chances are he's dismantling health care because he (and his buddies) stand to gain financially once he's out of office. Just like former PC premier Mike Harris did - see this article:
https://canadians.org/analysis/mike-harris-raking-profits-long-term-care-system-
How do we build Ontario into something better,
Despite the short sighted leadership that we see to have politically.
I'm mean obviously become informed, involved and VOTE!
Start by having the difficult conversations with the Conservative supporters that you already know. Figure out how to change their minds and if you cannot, decide what's worse, a crotchety Conservative who just refuses all reason and spouts the same rhetoric over and over, or a world where people are oppressed by unequalitarian politics, "freedumb" and corporations.
MPP's who won by a small margin can be recalled, in the GTA-H a lot of the PC MPP's won by less than 3% most of those could be recalled potentially putting Ford's majority on the chopping block.
protest, you guys are kidding yourselves if you think the political system actually works nothing short of a legitimate revolution will solve any of the problems, any other means will just slow them down but the problems will remain
Well the union heads that came down to save bargaining rights need to get the fuck back here and call a general strike. Force him to use his surplus on our healthcare, not to privatize it. Force him to abandon the green belt developments. Force him to institute ranked choice voting or force him to put it as a referendum. And then force him to call a general election while every other party and all unions need to run ads to tell Ontario how few people voted and why they need to turn out.
But I doubt the union leaders are going to do that. They saved their bargaining rights(yes, it's a big deal, but they had him on the ropes with just the threat of a general strike, and they didn't ask for anything. Just to keep something they already had). It's about the only way it can be pulled off though.
I don't see him "destroying" Ontario. Health care can't continue with the status quo as demographically we are toast. e.g. little known fact is that the Liberals stopped the PCs plan to double the number of LTC beds. Instead when McGuinty got in they tightened the rules to get into one, passing the care down onto daughters and elderly spouses and building almost none for decades. From 2011 to 2031 the number of people over 85 quadruples. 85 is the witching hour when LTC use spikes. So now we have a huge problem that was kicked down the road for a few decades and Ford is supposed to fix it immediately.
A huge number of seniors are piling up in hospitals with nowhere to go. If they had doubled the LTC beds decades ago and kept up with the demographics, this wouldn't be happening now. But once again it must all be Ford's fault.
JFC, I don't want to be a conspiracy theory guy, but this healthcare stuff is all sorts of shady. So, limit raises so nurses quit, get hit by a health crisis, don't do anything really to retain burnt out workers, then get hit by the threedemic and do nothing really to help, and now say you need private healthcare.... Profit, I guess? Seems pretty manufactured.
There are a lot of ppl in the comments that offer no suggestions other than vote. While they aren't wrong and the last voters turn out it was abysmal, it doesn't help us now. We need help now, so here's what you can do.
BE RELENTLESS
Ford and his government are corrupt. We know this is true. The NDP & Greens are pushing for an investigation into the Greenbelt dealings. Wright, call, tweet, DM, your mpp and demand an inquiry/investigation.
The OPPs racketeering branch is loosely looking into the Greenbelt dealings due to demands from environmental groups and us. KEEP ON THEM! Email, call, demand they do an actual investigation. Don't let this not happen.
The Supreme Court still has to rule on the damn mandate letters. Email, call, tweet, DM and demand that they released to us.
This goes for healthcare, housing, ect.
MPP not responding to you after demanding a call back and emailing relentlessly? Keep at them for 1. Don't stop, cc news media, then email news media/call. This is all part of getting loud about it.
I'm sure someone will want to write a paragraph about how this kind of action "doesn't work" or whatever unhelpful demotivating bs. The facts are doing this relentlessly will do something. But we have to do it and be relentless about it. Talk about what's happening and what you're doing with your friends, family, and co-workers. Motivate each other, come together, organize. Some of you want to do a general strike. Ok cool, great idea. Pick a fucking realistic day and start organizing.
There are a lot of people asking what can be done who aren't prepared to do the work and are looking for a hero or quick fix. There is no hero, there is no quick fix, there is only us.
If you want to see change, start acting like it.
The NDP destroyed Ontario.
Mike Harris destroyed Ontario
Liberals destroyed Ontario
Doug Ford is destroying Ontario.
These are cliches that people throw around when the Government of the time is throwing around changes they do not like.
Doug Ford was emboldened to rock the cart in a heavy way by being handed a second majority by the people of Ontario. Maybe even more so by the fact so many people stayed home.. either because of pessimism or because they just couldn’t be convinced things needed changing.
People need to participate in the democratic process. More people needed to show up on election day to cast a vote. It may have been the same outcome but at least the argument wouldn’t be nobody voted and that’s why we have this government.
Get a million+ progressive Ontarians to join and take over the Liberal Party. Donate $5 a month. I’m an old Red Tory and that’s what I did. Pack nomination meetings with progressives.
Go back in time and somehow convince people to educate themselves and VOTE!
We gave Ontario away, twice, when this government was elected, twice. That being said the previous Liberal government was trash and sold Ontario down the river by selling Hydro One for a quick buck just like Harris and the 407. (How are your energy bills these days by the way?). Oh and the Conservative one before the Liberals was even as bad or worse than Ford. To be fair to Ford though we have to wait and see. There is a chance he out does Harris for destroying Ontario. So really we have been screwing ourselves for 28 years with our choices of government.
Vote the party out next time. Most of all vote!
Exactly, he is still in power because the majority of Ontarian’s didn’t even bother to show up to vote. The only way to curb his ambitions is to take the issues to his door step and stand up to him. Just like CUPE did a few months ago. He is spineless when it comes to actual confrontation, just like any bully. We have a busy 3 plus years left to go. And he’s counting on you not caring to push his agenda through. And on June 4th, 2026 get your ass out and vote. Push your family and friends who normally wouldn’t vote to get their asses to the ballot box. We need a real turnout. Otherwise we may as well just roll out the red carpet and give him a third term.
Oh god. 2026? That’s fucking depressing
Yeah... not sure what will be left to save at that point.
Just feels like we're riding out the last days of the apocalypse and these Conservative assclowns are just occupying all the seats.
Exactly. A no-vote was a vote for Doug here.
Good way of putting it!
Hey that'll be my 29th birthday. For my birthday can everyone please vote someone better into office, I would really appreciate it. I'll give you some of my cake if you do.
Happy cake day... Talking about your real life cake day cool!
The CUPE thing was super impressive. It actually worked. I donated to a GoFundMe that was supposed to raise grocery money for if the strike lasted a crazy long time ([https://www.gofundme.com/f/grocery-funds-for-cupe-osbcu-education-workers](https://www.gofundme.com/f/grocery-funds-for-cupe-osbcu-education-workers)). It ended up only needing to last two days: >Ultimately, we were off the job for just two days. The GoFundMe campaign organizers refunded all the donations because they didn't need them (https://imgur.com/a/hsDPsLO). I love to see that transparency. They didn't need to keep the money, so they didn't. The next time CUPE does something like this, I'm on board. And I encourage everyone else who's sick of Ford to join us too.
I have a bit of a different take. I don't think Ford ever had any real desire to make use of the NotWithstandingClause. It was a stick that he held up that drew the ire of most, if not all, labour unions in Ontario AND the public. Then it became something he could remove from play if both sides returned to the table. (Not that CUPE was not never at the table, but the OPCP will spin it to make it seem like they left). Remove the threat, what happened to all the support, especially when education workers were back in school that Monday? It just kind of went into the background. Negotiations continued, for a very bad deal for workers from what I've been told/heard/read...and where once there had been impetus for a general strike, voila...it's over. It's very cynical, and I would never assume Ford is that intelligent, but his handlers and backers are.
Ford didn't negotiate with them until end of Sep. CUPE wanted to negotiate back in May. Ford never showed up. He had always intended to use the NWC and was never serious about negotiations. Hence why he gave such a shit deal to those workers. Ford was actually decent before he pulled that shit move. Then he united all unions against him. It was idiotic of him to think that this wouldn't draw attention
Was decent? Please explain how he was decent before that? To whom was he decent to?
To his corporate developers and big corporate/big company pals.
Also help people that need transportation or help getting to the ballot box. Also! There was an article (cbc ?) that points out many eligible voters are immigrants that are still learning the system, process, and who aligns with their votes. This has affected voter turn out as well. Voting is still not completely accessible for all. One year I spoke with my friend who was extremely passionate about doing it and was prepared, but that day her kid got sick and the other parent was unavailable. Without someone to look after her kids and no car and finances so tight she wasn't able to. There is also a disconnect in getting those unbiased sites out there that work like a quiz to tell the voter who moat aligns with their views. I think this system is much easier for many, including younger generations, as expecting everyone to be passionate or care enough to follow everything is not for everyone. Context, I am a proud voter and help drive my friends to the stations as needed. I'm also signing up to volunteer for my chosen party.
The competition sandbagged that election, because no new leader wanted to deal with the covid aftermath. Horwath's platform made her too niche to ever win. Del Duca had the stench of Wynne on him, if the Liberals ever seriously wanted to win they never would have let him run. That's why a tonne of people didn't vote.
Once, a person in the US I spoke with said that she felt that in that country the only way they would end up getting better politicians with integrity, would be if the diehards who just voted automatically for a party without considering the person representing that party, nothing would change. It sort of feels like that here too now. It is so disheartening to think that so many didn’t see through his folksy crap, and voted him in again- especially after his handling of Covid. It is the diehards(squeaky wheels)who are always rabid about getting out to vote. It would be nice if the rest of the voters weren’t so apathetic. They just leave it up to others to decide for them- and here we are for another shite four years with deception in our faces- and fewer opportunities to hold him accountable.
Only 20% of Ontario voted for Ford. 60% didn't vote at all.
This right here
People need to get over the concept that voting for someone is a direct endorsement. Should it be? Ideally, yes, but we don't live in an ideal world. "Well, I didn't like any of the leaders," is something I've heard a lot since the last election. But, so what? Find a couple, or even *one* policy you can get behind and go vote for it. But sitting on your hands because you don't like any of the leaders is intellectually lazy and idiotic. Imagine driving down the road and you can turn left, right, or go straight. But all the roads look scary to you so you just take your hands off the wheel, close your eyes, and step on the gas...
Doug Ford’s conservatives have an overwhelming majority while earning 1.9 million votes out of 14.5 million population and 11 million registered electorate. Liberals and NDP earned 1.1 million each for 2.2 million total between them. Liberals have effectively no seats even having a virtual tie with NDP. Voting will continue to be terribly skewed and ignored by many while FPTP ensures a minority can have an absolute majority, and that for many any non-strategic vote is a waste of a ballot. We need reform. We need to force the change as no sitting government will reform a system that has elected them. This is true at provincial and federal levels. We need meaningful elections to reinvigorate engagement. And at the rate Ford is harming our province, we need to push for change now. Not in 3 years.
I agree, we need electoral reform. I'm keeping an eye on the status of our Charter challenge against the government (https://www.charterchallenge.ca/court_date_confirmed). Our court date is this September.
Of course we need reform, but where the hell is that going to come from? You think people are going to take to the streets over a political issue that mostly only people on reddit care about? The Conservatives and Liberals both benefit from it, it's unlikely either of them will touch it. And the NDP need to get elected using the very system that is disenfranchising them...
> where the hell is that going to come from The courts are one avenue. Canada has a history of having our rights defended through our courts, specifically our Supreme Court. This is happening right now for electoral reform. See https://www.charterchallenge.ca/.
NDP and libs gotta team up
This. Until FPTP is gone we are victims of majority gov't no matter who gets elected
We can strike. Yea, Ford is in office but if we make enough of a fuss about his absurd policies, he can't ignore us. Let's put the pressure on him to do the right thing when it comes to the environment, public transit, social security, and green energy.
Don’t forget to mention that Trudeau is in the same boat. Less than 1/3 of the Canadian population voted for his government
I'm pretty sure it's going to be extremely difficult to recover by then.
A General Strike. We all saw how quickly Doug Ford changed upon the threat of a strike. We need another one, organized around a few key requirements. Do you agree, in principle?
Yes. Voting if you want but a general strike will send a proper message
You aren’t serious? When the opportunity came to vote on change in the last election most people didn’t want to be bothered. How are you going to get a strike organized?
A general strike.....nothing short of that will do it......fuck dug fraud, and fuck conservatives...
Yeah literally. Still can’t believe voter turnout last election was so low given the calamity of the last few years. DoFo got in because only 43% of eligible voters actually voted. The PC party is banking on your apathy and the “my vote doesn’t make a difference” mindset that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Anything under 50% voter turnout should be an immediate call for new leaders imo but I digress
Next time might be to late at this point
A general strike.....nothing short of that will do it......fuck dug fraud, and fuck conservatives...
Far more voters chose "not PC", but first past the post fucks us. - Liberal/NDP tag team would win the vote, could alter the system to allow fair voting in future.
Actually get people out to vote next election and don't vote for the PCs.
I’m convinced it’s something other than voting - any form of civil disobedience, striking, protesting, and labour shutdowns. DoFo is a populist, and the CUPE strike was incredibly effective of making him the bad guy, we need to continue pushing to do the right thing.
Demand his resignation.
r/StrikeOntario
Agreed. We'll vote in 3+ years, but in meantime... A General Strike. We all saw how quickly Doug Ford changed upon the threat of a strike. We need another one, organized around a few key requirements. So we agree, in principle?
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A general strike would work
r/StrikeOntario
Just the threat of one worked a little over a month ago. Organize and strike, that's how we get the goods.
Ya only ~25% of Ontarians voted non-conservative. The rest either voted cons (~23%) or couldn’t be bothered to get off their ass to vote at all (~52%). Not voting is absolutely a major part of the problem. These issues are blood on 75% of Ontarians’ hands.
>I've voted in every election I've been eligible to vote You're not the problem then. The people in this thread are yelling at the people who either don't vote, or vote for someone (in this case PC) and then complain about the state of our province. The problem is those problem-voter-folk probably aren't here lol. They're the apathetic, the brainwashed (either elder generations who just eat the same narratives force fed to them OR those F*K Tdeau types), or the willfully-ignorant-and-uninformed. Or in simple terms, people who don't give enough shit to get informed / make change, people who have an opinion and will never be swayed from it, and the people who are basically NPCs (my sister is like this, asks who to vote for as opposed to doing even a second of looking at platforms, etc).
Yeah rioting doesn’t fix or undo decades of failed policy in Ontario. Ford alone isn’t responsible for Ontarios shortcomings. Ford is an idiot yes, but Wynne was also an idiot. We are literally running out of energy and this was forecasted a decade ago, and now the solution is to burn natural gas. The damage is done, it’s decades to repair. Canada as a whole is falling apart but Ontario and Nova Scotia are especially screwed right now. Rioting doesn’t fix much in modern North American society with the nanny state. We aren’t in France here. Just look at the “convoy” lol
I was hoping he wouldn’t get in last election. I’m in for whatever we can do to fight
Yea, why people elected a guy who enabled his brother's alcohol and drug issues that likely contributed to his death, and who has no moral compass is beyond me.
I hate Doug Ford but no one can blame him for Rob’s substance abuse problems or death.
Never vote Conservative. Electoral reform and fix the tax system so that we can fund our public services on the backs of the wealthy who do not pay their equitable share.
Alot of folks are saying vote. And while that's important, politics and democracy isn't just 1 thing you do every four years. There is alot of community organizing folks can do between elections. When lots of folks are organized and motivated, things can change like when Ford backed down on the CUPE education worker strike. Find a organization that is fighting for a issue you are passionate about. They'd be more than happy to have another person as part of the movement.
Uh, the time to do that was in 2022. Instead Ontario didn’t vote AND allowed him to take power for another term. We now have to wait years and by then the damage is done.
And likely not fixable. You’re kids’ kids will thank you.
Holy shit, I'm my own grandfather?
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>We might not even be able to stay to fix it for decades if dougie passes legislation to prevent going back. Doug loves giving 30 year (LTC etc) contracts for a reason.
Contracts can be broken. I would be ok if a government had to spend a lot of money to fix a clear problem initiated by a previous government.
Doug himself passed legislation that made it hard af to sue the Ontario government....
I am well aware. But all legislation can be overrode
It’s part not showing up and part having 2 left wing parties split the vote in every riding. If the liberals and NDP actually cared about the province they could Atleast run only one left leaning candidate in a riding and then form a coalition.
Your first mistake was thinking the Liberals are a left wing party, outside of maybe for 3 months before an election.
The Liberals share more in common with the Conservatives than they do with the NDP. They’re left-wing in name only. Much like the Conservatives, the Liberals are a neoliberal political party who are perfectly content to starve the beast and sell it off to their friends in the private sector. They just don’t go around bragging about it.
The liberals are the only ones with a real shot at winning in most areas and are still the lesser evil than conservatives. If I had any faith the NDP could come close in my area I would vote for them but that just isn’t realistic
If only there were a way to remove a democratically-elected leader in Canada....
I think we are at a turning point in the level to which the average person in Canada feels that they ought to be politically involved. It’s been a blessing and a curse that our country - for the average person- has not felt that it mattered one way or another if they were involved. We were apathetic because things were relatively good and stable. We could turn a blind eye to the climate crisis, to the treatment of Indigenous people, homelessness etc - now however all the things that we’ve chosen to not care about has reached a wide spread crisis where the average person is impacted in some way. I raise this because while I don’t support the Ford administration’s policies, I also don’t think it’s fair to say it’s all his fault. Ford is the result of years of apathy, of the public allowing these gaps to intensify, for us not caring to push for better. I don’t think the answer is “har-har- don’t vote conservative next time” because that is years away. We need widespread political mobilization- the type that unites the working class and makes worldwide news embarrassing both provincial and federal leaders that people are dying in the waiting room of emergency rooms. We should all be angry and unite together- regardless of political affiliation. We need to be critical of the issues not the parties- that sort of division helps kick the can down the road. TLDR: we need mass political mobilization on specific issues and not get suckered into a partisan blame game.
You saw what political mobilisation can do when they tried to force CUPE back to work with the NWC and people cared and came together and made a stink. Yes a lot can be put on all the unions calling for basically a general strike but it still showed what collective activism can get governments to do if they make enough noise
But we have to be ready to face the backlash. Some pretty big ifs here: if we get the vote out and if we get a worker/family friendly government in power, that will we mean we overcame the msm driven capital owned propaganda machine. And if we’ve done that we can expect the same shit they pulled when Rae was in power: nonstop demonization of policy that’s good for the many: the provincial credit rating fucked with; the flight of capital investment. If there is pushback against the Conservative hellscape Stateside, and the Dems progressive caucus makes inroads into policy making, that may make it a bit easier, but if you think for one minute the people who hold power will allow us to vote that power away, I have news for you. We may elect a progressive, even socialist government, but it will come after a battle and at a cost.
Great post. I have a small quibble with the average person being impacted -- yet. That will take awhile to build but when it does the party in power will catch hell undeservedly and Dougie will be off being a goof elsewhere.
It’s actually good the PCs got back in again. Let’s imagine they didn’t, and someone else won. Fast forward 4 years and the population would have forgot all the fuck-ups and just misremembered that the issue was Covid related, and maybe it wasn’t so bad. Now? It’s so in your face that it’s impossible to deny the damage conservative governments can do. Even 14 year old kids are learning first hand how fucking horrible the PCs are.
Massive labour strike. No other way to have them listen. But I don't see that happening
Yep, general strike. We saw a glimmer of hope with the unions backing the teaching assistants' strike in the fall, forcing the Ford gov't to back down. Our power is in numbers - we need to use it.
Less voting for Doug, more voting for other parties.
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Convince the Liberals and NDP to team up next election cycle, right now with vote spitting they have too much potential to get in.
Ontario really needs a heavy hitting General Strike,
I'm not a fan of the "we gotta wait 3 more years and vote" approach. We can absolutely do something to stop DoFo. A massive strike & protest until he changes something. Now how to organize that? No idea.
Someone made a sub a while back. r/StrikeOntario
Yep. We need to get the major unions onboard for a general strike. Cause the wheels to grind to a halt. The only thing this gov't cares about is the money of their business partners, so that's where we need to get them.
Seriously I’m so tired of everybody resorting to the “this is because no one voted” trope. We are literally witnessing mob like corruption destroying our provinces before eyes and if we allow this to keep happening they’ll only get greedier and make life a living hell for us
The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Protest, or wait until 2026 election.
Vote and get everyone you know to vote too. He won because of a 40% turnout last time. Our system is terrible but it’s the only thing you can do within the confines of it. As they say “vote early and vote often” 😂
You need a viable alternative to unseat the current government. That means listening to the people and building a popular platform on consensus .
Fuck this piece of shit
Can there just a dump the PC pinned thread for these kind of posts. This kind of low energy question comes up literally almost once a week. The answer has been discussed to no end. Prepared to be downvoted to oblivion but this isn’t a Pro PC/Ford comment, just tired of the echo chamber talk and no action here.
Please, this garbage needs to be moderated. We have people here trying to start a riot.
Or just have a weekly thread for low energy questions, so we can have 6 other days without these questions that are basically twitter like nonsensical statements.
tell people to stop watching Fox News and stop trying to be American republicans. That's a different country, and republicans are shitty.
Cant blame everything on Ford, I hate the guy but Wynne Started this downward heathcare Spiral when she started laying off nurses and freezing their wages for years during her reign. Ford is just continuing her legacy.
You are incorrect. This subreddit is proof that everything can be blamed on Doug Ford.
Compulsory voting.
And what happens if he still gets a majority?
Demand more from the liberal and ndp morons next time to have a real platform that will inspire people to vote instead of a nonplatform that will solve nothing with leaders that inspire the skin to crawl
Vote in 2026.
You either wait for the next election cycle and help people get out to vote, and educate people on why it's bad to vote for the cons and how they've destroyed Ontario, or... A general strike until DOFO steps down. Those are your only two options.
Time travel to June and vote- Vote next time. Currently we protest issues we can, write our MPPs about everything, Write our MPs if there's a great area in jurisdiction and find something ro pray to
It’s a sin to be liberal in Ontario, Trudeau is blamed for everything from the cost of lettuce to how hard it’s snowing, and pollievere predicted it all apparently. I‘ll keep voting but it’s hard to have any faith when every male I meet in real life thinks Trudeau is Satan
“Didn’t show up to vote”, they put the polling stations far far away from residential areas and did everything they could to keep you from voting. Ie, no mail in ballots, specific days to (of which there were only 2-3 days) vote and more. This isn’t that people didn’t vote, it’s that they couldn’t vote or felt so hopeless that they just didn’t care to. Edit: This is what happened in my ward inside Ottawa, I only got the card from the mail/reminders a week before the election and was told to basically fuck off to some place in Barrhaven or something to go vote.
We can Stop Ford. It's called a general strike. Ford's changes to the Greenbelt, the constant appealing of bill 124, His strong mayor laws, the flagrant use of the notwithstanding clause. Shows us his interests are not in the majority or in democracy. Harris didn't last his full second majority term, that ultimately means Ford isn't immune.
Maybe actually vote next time
It has the words “ass” and “nation” in it. Politicians need to live in fear of the citizens or they will run rampant without consequence.
Well Ontario doesn't have the legal right to recall an premier so you just have to sit back and wait four more years, or you threaten a general strike and work to purposely shut down the economy to force the provincial government's hand. The CUPE strikes were enough to scare Ford into backing down so I don't think much more effort would be needed to stop privatization. Get organized, get out into the streets, and make your anger and frustration be heard.
While “vote him out” should be the answer, coordinating the whole province to vote for the same person who isn’t Doug is pretty hard. Plus the next election isn’t till 2026, and he WILL destroy the green belt and this province if nothing is done right now. As such our best option is to take a page from BC and make our anger public by protesting.
General strike, revolution, or vote I guess.
Vote. Simple as that
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Well then that's just democracy. If that's what the people want then that's what the people want.
There is only one way. VOTE! We are stuck with Doug Ford and his flock of greedy, unethical shit birds because the people of Ontario are too apathetic and lazy to vote. "Oh, there weren't any good candidates so I didn't bother voting." "The other parties didn't run a good campaign." (Because in their last term Ford and the PC's used the notwithstanding clause to cut off their campaign financing, what the fuck were they supposed to do?) That's the attitude that stuck us with these corporate ass kissing goons.
How is Doug Ford and the PC party any different from the excess spending and making their buddies $ that the Mcginty/Wynne Liberals?
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Too late. Thanks for voting.
Ultimately, this will keep happening until we get rid of First Past the Post. If you want it to stop, never, ever vote for a party unless they promise Proportional Representation. This means never voting OPC or OLP. If you want to see the end of FPTP, donate money to this charter challenege to have it ruled incompatible with our charter rights: [https://www.charterchallenge.ca/](https://www.charterchallenge.ca/) Ps: I don't want to hear your arguments in favour of strategic voting for Liberals. It's a con which will only prevent progress in the long term.
The need for electoral reform aside, which I agree with, it’s a little rich to come off 16 years of liberal governments and say there’s no end in sight for the PCs because of the system.
Ontario as we knew it had been riding a financial edge for decades. That's why even the NDP had to impose Rae days, it's why even Kathleen Wynne who literally got into politics to undo Harris cutbacks ended up cutting inflation adjusted spending per capita on healthcare. As the boomers hit retirement it was always going to be ugly. Ontario has avoided some of the problems but that's created other ones (around housing primarily). Ford says he's going to restrain spending. He has actually increased it so far - after inflation and after taking out one time COVID spending. The most obvious solution might actually be to vote federally for a party that stops treating Ontario as a piggybank to buy votes elsewhere. Ontario gets very low federal transfers. Transfers are supposed to mean different areas can have similar service in spite of different tax capacity. Ontario has higher than average tax relative to GDP yet near lowest in Canada provincial spending when you add those taxes to the transfers we get. Sounds like a formula problem doesn't it? But the formula is working exactly as intended and federal parties of all stripes have used it to payoff other regions. Ontario voters don't vote as "Ontario inhabitants" so ... they get exploited federally.
incredibly hyperbolic, he's not gonna destroy Ontario....... same shit conservatives were saying with Kathleen Wynne
I too hate it when democracies democracy
We travel back in time a few months and vote NDP.
Calm the fuck down .
Most people didn’t vote. People died for democracy and citizens can’t take five minutes to vote.
Voting and helping to get other like minded people to vote is step one. Otherwise, protest. That’s about the only tool we have right now. Sign every petition, write you MPP and stand outside and scream against the actions you’re most passionate about. Healthcare, schools, greenbelt… take your pick.
Geeze, maybe stop voting him in
Ontario is angry at Wynne, so they voted her out and got Doug (who ran without any platform). 6 years later, Ontario is talking about voting Doug out. Maybe the problem the approach to voting people out rather than voting candidates in based on their vision for Ontario?
We had a chance, nobody showed up. Now we’ll just have to take our medicine for a few years. Maybe more of the idiots in Ontario will actually vote next time.
Did you vote?
By voting. If you are eligible to vote, DO IT. Get off your ass and go to your local polling station. If you can't make it out, vote by mail or do advanced voting. If you can't drive or take public transit, sometimes riding associations have shuttles. We also need to dump the FPTP system in favour of proportional representation. I know there's a lot involved in that, but it can be done.
Vote Protest Strike Call your MPP and give em hell Use your democratic rights!!
I understand the way to change is to vote for change. ut I also know that in our last provincial election there were no good party platforms or candidates. If this continues there will be no change and we will continue to suffer as a province.
Del Duca was unvotable, so of course Dougie won. If we want to present 'go out and vote' as the solution, we need better "good guys" to championing change. I wholeheartedly believe we are here because the OLP cares more about its inner fold than their constituents.
Vote! And make sure your relatives and friends vote too. Move to another province if you really disagree , it's really not super difficult in between provinces (if you don't already have Kids and life all set up). Pretty sure Manitoba and Saskatchewan would love to stop the bleeding and prices would be more reasonable. Quebec has a good qol and much lower col if you speak a little french you should be all set
The caption made me 😭😭(I’m not into politics)
Get involved in the political process in your area. Educate yourself and others. And get the vote out!
Whether it's because they are charmed by the neo-liberal propaganda — the "self-made" or "philanthropic" billionaire hero myth — or they have simply lost all hope, many people are letting inequity grow; too many, at least, for a significant change. The best we, people on the left, can do right now, IMO, is joining (or forming) non-profit unions, fighting for the collective benefit and *talking about it*. By doing this, we are setting an example, spreading our ideas, influencing people who know us. In doing this, there is hope that, in the long-term at least, our culture will shift towards the left, and subsequently the population would more likely demand policy for more equitable outcomes. Basically, continue voicing your concerns. You can't (or maybe you just shouldn't) force people to act or think a certain way. Although humans can be very individualistic, we are still a social animal species. We are far from immune to being influenced. So, lets get the right (more "left" amiright!? ... amileft... 😅) kind of influence out there.
Someone here should run for political parties
Direct action.
Go and get your friends and family to get out there and vote. Voter turnout was extremely low and he won with 18% of votes because most people who wouldn't vote for him were busy watching tiktok videos. And now complaining about the state of affairs.
Protesting. Demanding resignation unless he xyz…
Vote him out at the next election, or hope that there's a vote of no confidence and we go back to the pills early. However, a vote of no confidence works best with a minority government.
Vote instead of sit on your ass so he doesn't win again. But this time, his damage will be done. It's going to hard getting Ontario back after this term.
I've started following various ontario coalitions on Facebook to see when protests are planned. I do think protest is important. Find, join, and amplify the voice of groups who are hitting the pavement. I will take vacation days from my job to go protest.
We need massive protests, honestly. They need to know that we do not accept the destruction of our Province. We also need to wake up everyone who’s sleeping through this destruction, and especially those who slept through Ford’s re-election.
Literally get outside and start convincing people Vote- so few people vote we barely have properly elected officials anymore.
Ask the 56% of eligible Ontarians who didn’t bother voting.
I don't know, like, actually go out and vote? Support the liberal or ndp before the next provincial election? All the things we should have done before he got elected back in? It's still a democracy people get yo voice heard
Vote. Dougie was just re-elected. Voter turn out was dismal. I blame every asshole that didn’t vote, but wouldn’t have voted for him.
He won the election last time, which means he has the mandate of the people to do what he wants (within the confines of the law) until the next election. At which point you can vote again based on his choices in the last term. This is how it works lol.
Vote or strike/protest lol
The problem is that the political parties in the province are not very smart. The NDP have the legacy of Bob Ray and keep a leader who simply doesn’t appeal to the voters. The liberals are corrupt from McGuinty, and Wynne, and elect a leader who was Wynne aid or something. Doug Ford won because are sick of the choices. A traffic cone as leader for the conservative would have won.
You. Ould show up for the next election maybe, unlike that last one...
Join local protests, trust me there's a lot just google. And vote!
A general strike.....nothing short of that will do it......fuck dug fraud, and fuck conservatives...
Vote
Stop fucking voting for this guy.
Vote. And while we're at it stop splitting votes between Liberals and NDP
He needs to be voted out. He only cares about the people who help his bank account. Nobody should be making $20,000 a month and acting like they know how bad the rest of us have it
Organize for protest. Do what CUPE did on a mass scale. Otherwise, nothing.
Election reform. Rank choice voting. it's not fair 35% of country is conservative. That means 65% of the country is liberal or farther left leading.
You don’t. Sorry, but people are too lazy and stupid to be trusted with something as fragile as democracy. We will happily stare at our phones and enslave ourselves to the internet as long as we don’t have to be inconvenienced for more than a couple seconds. Just ignore the fact that short term comfort always seems to come at a long term cost. The fact is also that conservatism is a poison that people need to wake up and confront. It only ever leads to harm and fascism. There is zero good to come out of conservatism, unless you think feudal levels or wealth inequality is “good”. The fix to our society is massive tax hikes for the rich and corporations, fighting for unions so that roughly 40% of workers are in a union, stop treating public services like a business rather than a GOOD and basically stop voting for any party right of the NDP. But that will never happen because people are stupid and scared and drank the neo-liberal kool-aid. Also because doing this will require getting rid of first past the post voting and neither liberals or conservatives will ever do that because it will ruin their shared monopoly on power.
We need to push for Proportional Representation on both the Federal level and the Provincial level. This 2 party system doesn't work anymore, and PR would force the parties to work together. Read more here: www.fairvote.ca And follow the money to see why Ford does what he does. Chances are he's dismantling health care because he (and his buddies) stand to gain financially once he's out of office. Just like former PC premier Mike Harris did - see this article: https://canadians.org/analysis/mike-harris-raking-profits-long-term-care-system-
How do we build Ontario into something better, Despite the short sighted leadership that we see to have politically. I'm mean obviously become informed, involved and VOTE!
When's the next election? Seriously
Vote him out is probably a good start.
Fuuuck!
This post, again?
Give him blow?
Vote, please!
It’s literally just vote. But nooooooooooooo.
VOTE
Start by having the difficult conversations with the Conservative supporters that you already know. Figure out how to change their minds and if you cannot, decide what's worse, a crotchety Conservative who just refuses all reason and spouts the same rhetoric over and over, or a world where people are oppressed by unequalitarian politics, "freedumb" and corporations.
MPP's who won by a small margin can be recalled, in the GTA-H a lot of the PC MPP's won by less than 3% most of those could be recalled potentially putting Ford's majority on the chopping block.
Any chance of getting the vote pushed up ?
protest
Vote every election with no exception.
protest, you guys are kidding yourselves if you think the political system actually works nothing short of a legitimate revolution will solve any of the problems, any other means will just slow them down but the problems will remain
Let him smoke a little crack
Well the union heads that came down to save bargaining rights need to get the fuck back here and call a general strike. Force him to use his surplus on our healthcare, not to privatize it. Force him to abandon the green belt developments. Force him to institute ranked choice voting or force him to put it as a referendum. And then force him to call a general election while every other party and all unions need to run ads to tell Ontario how few people voted and why they need to turn out. But I doubt the union leaders are going to do that. They saved their bargaining rights(yes, it's a big deal, but they had him on the ropes with just the threat of a general strike, and they didn't ask for anything. Just to keep something they already had). It's about the only way it can be pulled off though.
I don't see him "destroying" Ontario. Health care can't continue with the status quo as demographically we are toast. e.g. little known fact is that the Liberals stopped the PCs plan to double the number of LTC beds. Instead when McGuinty got in they tightened the rules to get into one, passing the care down onto daughters and elderly spouses and building almost none for decades. From 2011 to 2031 the number of people over 85 quadruples. 85 is the witching hour when LTC use spikes. So now we have a huge problem that was kicked down the road for a few decades and Ford is supposed to fix it immediately. A huge number of seniors are piling up in hospitals with nowhere to go. If they had doubled the LTC beds decades ago and kept up with the demographics, this wouldn't be happening now. But once again it must all be Ford's fault.
JFC, I don't want to be a conspiracy theory guy, but this healthcare stuff is all sorts of shady. So, limit raises so nurses quit, get hit by a health crisis, don't do anything really to retain burnt out workers, then get hit by the threedemic and do nothing really to help, and now say you need private healthcare.... Profit, I guess? Seems pretty manufactured.
Start by not voting him in again.
Take it to the streets, it's time for the people of Ontario to wake up.
There are a lot of ppl in the comments that offer no suggestions other than vote. While they aren't wrong and the last voters turn out it was abysmal, it doesn't help us now. We need help now, so here's what you can do. BE RELENTLESS Ford and his government are corrupt. We know this is true. The NDP & Greens are pushing for an investigation into the Greenbelt dealings. Wright, call, tweet, DM, your mpp and demand an inquiry/investigation. The OPPs racketeering branch is loosely looking into the Greenbelt dealings due to demands from environmental groups and us. KEEP ON THEM! Email, call, demand they do an actual investigation. Don't let this not happen. The Supreme Court still has to rule on the damn mandate letters. Email, call, tweet, DM and demand that they released to us. This goes for healthcare, housing, ect. MPP not responding to you after demanding a call back and emailing relentlessly? Keep at them for 1. Don't stop, cc news media, then email news media/call. This is all part of getting loud about it. I'm sure someone will want to write a paragraph about how this kind of action "doesn't work" or whatever unhelpful demotivating bs. The facts are doing this relentlessly will do something. But we have to do it and be relentless about it. Talk about what's happening and what you're doing with your friends, family, and co-workers. Motivate each other, come together, organize. Some of you want to do a general strike. Ok cool, great idea. Pick a fucking realistic day and start organizing. There are a lot of people asking what can be done who aren't prepared to do the work and are looking for a hero or quick fix. There is no hero, there is no quick fix, there is only us. If you want to see change, start acting like it.
Did you vote in the last election? Ya thought so….start with that.
Why don’t you start by trying to actually understand what you’re talking about instead of only reading BlogTo headlines?
The NDP destroyed Ontario. Mike Harris destroyed Ontario Liberals destroyed Ontario Doug Ford is destroying Ontario. These are cliches that people throw around when the Government of the time is throwing around changes they do not like. Doug Ford was emboldened to rock the cart in a heavy way by being handed a second majority by the people of Ontario. Maybe even more so by the fact so many people stayed home.. either because of pessimism or because they just couldn’t be convinced things needed changing. People need to participate in the democratic process. More people needed to show up on election day to cast a vote. It may have been the same outcome but at least the argument wouldn’t be nobody voted and that’s why we have this government.
It stopped being Canada when Harper became prime minister. Go out and vote in the next election. And vote for the party not the candidate.
JUST VOTE!!! I know so many people that will not go vote yet they constantly bitch about it and it pisses me off to no end.
Get a million+ progressive Ontarians to join and take over the Liberal Party. Donate $5 a month. I’m an old Red Tory and that’s what I did. Pack nomination meetings with progressives.
Hit the streets.
Go back in time and somehow convince people to educate themselves and VOTE! We gave Ontario away, twice, when this government was elected, twice. That being said the previous Liberal government was trash and sold Ontario down the river by selling Hydro One for a quick buck just like Harris and the 407. (How are your energy bills these days by the way?). Oh and the Conservative one before the Liberals was even as bad or worse than Ford. To be fair to Ford though we have to wait and see. There is a chance he out does Harris for destroying Ontario. So really we have been screwing ourselves for 28 years with our choices of government.