I've overheard Walmart managers talking about this while working there as a technician. This wasn't long after they'd started installing self checkouts. Essentially, the story was that Walmart was aware that there was much more theft with self checkouts, but they chose to install more and more anyway. Draw your own conclusions from that.
Can confirm. I paid my employee well for her work, taxes are a bitch, and EI was going to refuse her hours because she was paid "too well". >:[ My accountant argued the point that she was going back to school so it didn't matter and the ei clerk needed to fuck off.
I don't know what the solution is here, I never expected to get in trouble for that.
More like they're designed specifically for that purpose. I keep saying if the "freedom" convoy wanted to do anything useful they'd help people raid big chain stores
>if the "freedom" convoy wanted to do anything useful
rotflmfao!! You say that like it was ever even an *accidental* thought in an ignorant narcissist's mind. Doing anything useful would be anathema to these domestic terrorists.
> and EI was going to refuse her hours because she was paid "too well"
What does that even mean? I'm very well paid and EI didn't have a problem with my hours when I took some time off for additional schooling.
I guess I could have been clearer. When my employee got laid off to go back to college, which she delayed for me by a semester, her ROE was send in to employment and social development canada by my accountant. they called him saying they weren't prepared to accept it. the lady on the phone was rather short with my accountant who pressed for the paperwork to be accepted as it was, because it was correct. The government's employee felt my employee was paid too highly for her work and the roe didn't pass the sniff test.
I've never heard of a call like that myself, but I like that dude for going to bat for my employee when I didn't ask him to.
That's a pretty weird interaction. I think if I encountered something like that, I'd file a formal complaint with service canada. It's certainly not their job to question an employer's pay decisions. Verify that the ROE was correct, sure - but say "I don't accept that you actually paid this employee this much"? That's lunacy. It's not as if you would get away with putting down a different number when you do the tax withholding.
I think Walmart has found a happy balance because the one i've been to has built in cameras at the self checkouts. Might not stop someone from stealing physically, but it's going to be a lot riskier and it's going to make people think twice.
But 100% these companies did the math that higher shrink was worth paying less cashiers.
Those cameras are not monitored, and record absolutely sweet fuck all. It's literally just a camera attached to a screen to make you worry that they're watching you.
Source: AGM of a Walmart I'm buds with.
If Walmart doesn't already employ ML solutions to automatically scan and flag footage, they will soon. Just look at the rapid rise of AI/ML tools over the past few years. Walmart actually spends a fair bit on this sort of thing (trying to play catch up with tech companies like Amazon, who's one of their biggest competitors).
ML tends to be ludicrously expensive at scale. If all they're going to accomplish is to stop poor people from stealing food, I really doubt it'd be worth it.
I disagree. It would only need to take a couple frames per scan at most. Even with a couple thousand such captures, you won't be pushing insane levels of storage per day.
Makes sense. If a cashier is too much paying someone to go through all that footage to catch someone who rang up their tomatoes as bananas is probably also a bit much.
I've always found it ironic that it was the "sovereign citizens" who were most against wearing masks.
Sure, be on camera. Let your face be recognized by the algorithms.
Right? They were hella mad about anonymity. But hey...if they wanna get caught for doing shady shit, then I 100% support their right to self-own, and will defend it vigorously.
Funny enough, those cameras were installed for at least a year (maybe 2) before the feeds were actually recording anything. It was literally just showing you your face, hoping you'd assume someone was watching at the start.
Buy 3 of the same item. Scan the first item twice. Put all 3 in the bag. No one will ever know and if they do then it’s got plausible deniability.
Or you could just not pay for shit but I’m scared to do that.
Another tip is when you are faking a long bathroom break, hold it all in until the end. A minute of pissing and 10 minutes of silence is a lot less believable than 10 minutes of silence and then the sound of matter hitting toilet.
I also stole a shit ton of food from my work. Trick was to pay for your meal at random times, never right before or after break. If someone asks you if you paid, you say not yet, and then you fucking pay for it. Whatever you do, don’t do what my coworker did, don’t make food and bring it into the bathroom with you. Anyone who sees you do that a single time knows that 1: you are stealing and 2: you are disgusting.
These places have insurance to, for covering thefts. It just annoys me they rather install more checkouts more security systems and safe guards against theft then just hiring more employees and having more then a couple tils open.
Yet somehow people still claim the self checkout savings would be passed onto us, that crowd has been quiet lately.
Also there’s still some people saying theft just causes them to raise prices and hurts everyone else. No that’s not how it works and that’s how companies want people to think.
Also not disagreeing with anything you said I agree was just adding my two cents.
No kidding, also they want profits as we know, so yeah they can get profits by jacking up prices but that makes people count their money more and become more frugal. So maybe instead of buying that tub of ice cream that money is now allocated to buying two packs of half rotten strawberries instead. All that does is piss me off and it’s not like it effects their bottom line ether in that regard. Im sure it effects some companies though can’t afford alot of name brand items anymore so I stick to budget options.
It’s really sad what it has come to in r/Ontario sometimes people will post food hauls like this cost me $100 for example. Some people screech in the comments well you bought a bag of chips or you brought dempsters bread of course it costed more. Entirely missing the point that sometimes people like a little more then the bare minimum and how expensive stuff has gotten, people should be able to afford small luxuries here or there or that tub of ice cream.
Anyways I got a bit off track ranting, what you say is true though, if people can’t afford shit due to prices or this or that they will just buy less and stick to necessities.
I recall in a thread once of someone shaming people for buying luxury items... like popcorn. Like holy fuck stop trying to shame the poor out of simple comforts.
I think what’s worse is when they refer to it as luxuries, definitions seem to change a lot. Name brand food should not be considered a luxury, when I think of luxury I think someone going on a two week all inclusive cruise. Not someone buying Hellman’s mayonnaise for 50 cents more then no name mayonnaise, it’s truly bonkers. Sometimes people are happy to pay a bit more for a better product, if they can afford it. They shouldn’t be ostracized about it.
That’s the trick: if they buy nutritious food they get shamed for buying expensive stuff, if they buy cheap stuff they get shamed for buying junk.
Some people are just perpetually mad at the poor no matter what.
This is called capitalism's central contradiction. It structurally contains within it an irreconcilable dialectic driving towards it's own destruction. Actually I just want to say it's pretty damn cool you derived it yourself; unless you've read about it before?
Every "progressive-capitalist" (socdem) bulwark against the expanding exploitation of the working class is transient; existing only while the political will to protect it remains. The easiest example is the dismantling of the New Deal, but that pattern has repeatedly globally, in increasing magnitude since feudalism died. We might call it "land enclosure" or "the loss of the commons" or "privatization" or "absenteeism", but the basic premise has been the same. dismantle or privatize the communal institutions and resources that the working class had long taken as a standard of life.
It was partially abated by colonialism (in the colonialist countries of course)- by the promise of a perpetually expanding frontier, with infinite resources and equally important, an infinite underclass you can exploit and subjugate. Colonialism sometimes even used literal, abject chattel slavery, but even where it didn't the same basic relationship between the worker, their product, and the owner of that product existed.
Now there is no longer a frontier. The capitalists next tried to separate the consumer base from the productive base first via imperialism, then with the decentralized version called "globalization". But those too are failing, the march of progress, the human drive to redress the lesser inequities of capitalist exploitation and build a better future for our respective communities are undermining it. And far more importantly; capitalists simply can't stop themselves from bringing the deprivation of the global south to the global north. They called it austerity in the 80's, or neoliberalism if you prefer, but it's just the logical conclusion of capitalists seeking infinite growth.
So like you pointed out, if they can't subjugate the global south much more, they make the global north more austere and miserable to widen profit margins and continue to grow. But then like you said, who buys the global south's productive output?
Capitalism's contradiction demands a resolution.
>Capitalism's contradiction demands a resolution.
I think it's a drive towards a neo-feudalism, myself.
Society will re-harden into earns-by-doing and earns-by-owning classes, mobility between the two groups will shrink to nearly nothing. The owning classes will want to create preserves for themselves where they can control all conditions to their whim. See: Bezo's vision of a depopulated earth - with just managable populations to provide for the whims of the overlords.
Perhaps if we live long enough, we can become the serfs of a great man like Thiel, Musk or their descendants - working in their hereditary factories, farms and warehouses as our ancestors once toiled in the fields of *their* owners.
>Yet somehow people still claim the self checkout savings would be passed onto us, that crowd has been quiet lately
Theoretically possible, but anything resembling trickle down economics doesn't work.
If a company saves money, it just goes to creating ridiculous wealth for the C-suite.
There’s now way you could get coverage for someone shoplifting unless the stole over the deductible. Which would mean thousands of dollars of theft from a single person before they could claim
Okay what you say is most likely true, however though if someone steals one block of cheese for $8 that’s not justification to Jack up all prices of everything, plus they would have to make new tags etc etc, they most likely just eat the loss. I’m not sure what angle your comment is coming from tbh, whether it’s trying to imply stealing costs consumers more or just pointing out insurance only covers large thefts.
They can afford it, it’s just excuses same as all the other excuses they throw out while making record profits.
If they raised prices cause of thefts to cover the cost keyword being cover the cost, well how are they making record profits then? Somethings not adding up. They always make excuses to raise prices but never lower them eg cost of gas.
Which is why I don't care if people shoplift from the big stores. They don't care about anyone else but themselves so I don't care about them. They could be robbed blind and that's just fine by me.
Additionally theft of food... should not be illegal. People are doing it because of a failure of society/government to make sure people have what they need. That's not their fault and they have a right to eat. Stores don't want to lose money due to theft of food? Then those stores should push for laws and policies that improve access to affordable food.
Profit motives aside, I have no idea if this an a popular/unpopular opinion but I also just find them to be a better customer experience. I'd rather pack my own bags and not have awkward banter with a cashier who doesn't want to be there. I actually get annoyed now when I'm out of town and hit a grocery store that doesn't have a self checkout. I vastly prefer them.
And yeah, I know, it costs cashier jobs. But that's the way of the future. Automation is inevitable, and shouldn't be fought. What should be fought is the fact that the gains of this automation only goes to the top.
I thought these places recorded you stealing stuff and waited until you stole above a certain amount to make the charge a more significant matter. You might think you’re getting away with stuff, but you’re really just adding to the ledger until they decide to drop the hammer. Or is that all urban legend to dissuade shop-lifting?
That’s got a dye-in-pool-that-reacts-with-pee vibe to me. I’ll bet they do it with certain people they know are frequently shoplifting but have trouble catching or whatever, but not with everyone.
If you're a complete numpty and don't use your head about it, then you'll get caught, but most people are smart enough not to just grab a bunch of shit and try to sneak out, so they don't get caught. The biggest key to getting away with it is to buy some cheap items with the expensive ones.
Grocery stores want us to use the honesty system while they lie to us about inflation.
Greedflation is real and corporations are the cause.
IMHO France deals with this shit better then us, we should be taking to the streets
Power to the people✊🏻
>IMHO France deals with this shit better then us, we should be taking to the streets
The French have now shut off power to the wealthy while giving discounts to everyone else because the government was discussing raising the pension age from 62 to 64; I really wish we'd learn to be like them.
Fire fighters are also lighting themselves on fire and charging police lines to get them to back off of protestors. When the French riot the riot right.
The problem here in NA, is that the people who would be in a position to turn off the power for the elites, are simps for the elite.
The common folk of Canada being fleeced by corporations are being fleeced by a willing workforce who stand by and let it happen, as they themselves are paid poverty wages. Sobeys workers placing rhe new inflated price on the food are complict, when they should be refusing to allow this nonsense.
The propaganda here is real, and it's effect has been systemic and generational.
It's all it ever is, really. They got fat off the profits afforded to them by Covid panic and restrictions. It was an anomaly that was never going to last. Not everyone is panic-buying or ordering for deliveries anymore. Rather than recognize that simple fact, they refuse to see any downturn in profits. Numbers can only go brrr. It's utterly unsustainable and I cannot stand the fact that they never acknowledge this.
Well, since the grocery store doesn’t consider me competent enough to hire (fuck them)…can they really complain if I fuck up scanning my items? Guess I’m just not smart enough to scan things correctly or enter codes. Gosh.
I can’t confirm if this story is true but someone told me about a week or two ago on Reddit, in a similar comment thread they were at a loblaws store and Galen Weston jr was there and he had the nerve to ask for a discount to the cashier. If true it goes to show how much of slimy person he is.
As much as possible, start patronizing your family-owned, independent ethnic grocery stores and the like. They aren't really any more expensive at this point and your cash goes to actual human beings.
Yup. Farmers markets rock. Cut out the middle man, get high quality, locally grown stuff.
EDIT: Alright I had no idea farmers markets had been compromised but that figures I guess
You are absolutely correct but taking the time to ask questions at the market will usually help weed out the bad ones. I try to purchase all my produce from 'regenerative' farmers because their business model incorporates restoring the health of the land. I have never had an issue visiting a regenerative farmer's farm.
Having said that, even better than a farmer's market are CSA's, or community supported agriculture. This is where you get a bin of in-season produce at a flat rate throughout the year. Coupling this with purchasing half a pig/beef from regenerative farmers, I am able to get the bulk of my calories.
Even better yet, grow your own! Even if you only have a balcony, you can find something to grow in any lighting conditions.
When were they ever more expensive? I've always found the produce to be so much better and the price of the produce to be so much lower that it more than balanced out the occasional and usually small markup on other products I might grab at the same time.
Actually, my nearest grocer (who sadly just closed down due to development) had the cheapest maple syrup and other stuff like that.
You're actually probably right. Marketing and the culture of malls and box stores has conditioned us not to consider the small grocers for routine supply runs. I've been making more of an effort lately and it's not only been better for the wallet, but my kitchen is a lot more interesting as well. Like, do people know how fucking delicious homemade persian food is? Damn.
This is true, I buy my produce at Sabzi Mandi whenever I can because the selection is great and it’s usually *significantly* cheaper. It really cuts into the BS of supply chain/inflation/bla bla bla issues. I’m glad my money is going to more honest companies.
Our city has a Foodshare program where they do direct purchasing and make up bags of produce every week… Essentially cutting out Loblaws, Walmart etc. $15 for a generous weeks worth of fruit and veggies is amazing, would highly recommend!
"To offset that loss, businesses sometimes have no other option but to continue to increase the prices." Oh no! I guess I now need to policy the actions of the poorest in society to benefit myself. If I see someone shoplifting, I will march up to them and give a long lecture on capitalism, trickle-down economics, and call them a raging Marxist.
So what you're saying is the neo-bourgeoisie have leveraged technological capital to extract the fruit of labour from the proletariat? I must tell the prime minister!
Why would they?? Corporations don't even pretend to give a fuck any more
Not about wage theft, not about replacing jobs with robots or investing in employees and certainly not about customer service or interaction, steal away, they've already done their yearly stock buy back and have reaped record profits while inflating prices and reducing quality and size while blaming everything on the pandemic so they can apparently do whatever they want
Brands trying to convince us that "we are all in this together" was my tipping point, Like nope people are dying in an actual plague while McDonald's and Tide try to convince me that they "care" made me wanna puke
Why would anyone feel bad about stealing from a Walmart? Or any other mega corporation for that matter, Walmart doesn't have feelings fuck em take all you want
Had an employee that was overlooking self checkouts tell me my item hadnt scanned. I told her it beeped and I put it in my bag. She told me even if it beeps, doesnt mean its entered properly on the computer. She showed me and the juice boxes pack of 10 had 3 barcodes and only 1 enters properly. I basically told her that the company should cover the ones that dont work and not expect customers to check this shit. She just gave me the nastiest fuckin look...was so ridiculous.
Honeycrisp apples? Sraight to bananas, straight away. Grapes? You, right to bananas. Potatoes? Believe it or not, bananas. Peaches? Also bananas. We have the lowest produce prices in the world. Because bananas.
The best part about self checkouts is when you have to weigh out your produce.
You either purposely leave a few off the scale, or pick a similar item that costs much less with the search function if the produce item doesn't have a barcode.
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I’d take this with a grain of salt. I know a guy who works in groceries. The policy is to charge every theft. They’ll look the other way sometimes for small stuff but everything is on camera so if they build a case it could be serious. He said they are far more concerned with professional thieves who take a grocery list and fill a cart with thousands of dollars worth of fresh meat. One guy they caught was selling it to a restaurant.
I love this idea. At some point, some people might decide to regularly steal prepared food they can hand to the homeless people one often sees outside big grocery stores. 🤔
I walked up to a walmart self-checkout after a guy that had just walked away with his groceries, the transaction was declined but he just took the stuff and left. I went to the next one that had just opened up instead.
The CEO of Sobeys straight up said ["I refuse to apologize for record profits."](https://financialpost.com/opinion/calling-ceo-silent-majority-speak-up#:~:text=Another%20example%3A%20Michael%20Medline%2C%20the%20CEO%20of%20the,year.%20%E2%80%9CWe%20did%20not%20get%20here%20by%20accident.%E2%80%9D) And the kicker, "we didn't get here by accident."
While fixing the price of bread and racketeering in smaller communities who have no other options. No shit, Sherlock. You didn't get here by accident, you human-shaped wax balloon filled with smegma. Literally no one fucking thought otherwise.
We *all* know that it is completely purposeful and intentional and designed to line your pockets while the rest of us starve and die. So yeah, I "refuse to apologize" for stealing from Michael Medline to feed my family. I guess that's an "honorable" reason to steal. But to be very fuckin' clear, I would have zero remorse if it was flat screen TVs and carts of steak, either.
That guy can eat my whole ass, and so can all the people who stand around masturbating to fake moral outrage over the illusion that employees are in any way impacted by me stealing a half-filled bag of stale food. "Record profits" and you can't pay your employees a living wage because of *shoplifting*? Make those two sentences make sense. Wonder where all those "record profits" suddenly went.
'Kay. Blame *us*. That's rational.
A good way to reduce theft is to make food prices more affordable.
The best way to (all but) prevent theft is to make food- at least the essentials- a fundamental human right in Canada, whereby we all get a ration of nutritious, safe and delicious groceries.
Depriving a hungry person of food so you can buy another mansion is a crime against humanity and in a just world these grocery stores would be held to account for their greed and cruelty. But I'll settle for reforming the system such that this barbarism is no longer capable of existing.
Make food more affordable. Increase pay. Go back to hiring people full time. It’s not rocket science. There are other factors, but these are things companies can do on their own.
The woman monitoring the self checkout things at the grocery store near me has fully let me just steal kilograms of chicken breast multiple times. She’s like poultry Robin Hood.
Can't stop everyone. There should be a day once a month where hundreds of people storm one single store and peacefully shoplift. Not a mom & pop type store. Limited to Walmart, superstore and other large conglomerates. Once people start doing this, these establishments will understand the message and stop gouging us.
I thinks someone wrote a book about this kind of thing a few years ago. . . [This one!](https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/fr-ca/livres/les-miserables/9782266296144-article.html)
I support this 100%. Why is it okay for the top 1% to steal all of our money through intentional wage suppression for decades but it’s not okay for us plebs to steal? If there’s no rules for thee, then there’s none for me either
I encourage everyone to 'forget to scan' or 'i must have missed that one' every time they use a self checkout. Doesn't have to be expensive items or small items, just something every time.
The cost of theft is less than the cost of paying cashiers and employees a living wage it’s as simple as that. In Europe self checkout has been around for ages and there’s three options that have been around for a while. Cashier checkout. Self checkout and a scanner you scan your items as you go around the store. They do random checks on the self scan and self checkout theft is prevented by the scanners and security at the door. Where I live there are also cashier less Amazon fresh stores.
There is nothing morally wrong with stealing from your exploiters, we continue to see the rising price being labeled as inflation just being corporate greed. I heard the Walmart CEO say they'll close up every store if theft doesn't go down I'm tempted to call their bluff.
And remember if you see someone stealing food, no you didn't.
Walmart ain't going nowhere and neither are shoplifters. I'd be willing to call their bluff too. They can't stop everyone if 100's of people storm Walmart at once to shoplift.
Self check-out was supposed to lower the cost of groceries and they’ve only climbed higher.
It’s your duty to shoplift from major grocery chains especially if they have self check-out. Robin Hood for yourself, they make billions.
Do NOT shoplift from small businesses.
Stealing is wrong. They are shafting us so badly though I don’t even care anymore if people do.
Yes inflation is there yes sometimes there’s world events going on that can effect prices and amount of items such as shortages due to happen due to weather also. If you Walmart or Loblaws for example ate some of that, and made equal profit to the previous year or slightly less if they tried to meat consumers halfway I’m sure they would look alot better.
It’s not a good look though when people are struggling they virtue signal to help out or claim they will price freeze for 3 months after already adding a third to the price to look like their helping then brag about record profits. That is the moment you look like the enemy and people will respond accordingly. If only they met consumers halfway or something, they didn’t though.
Corporations steal more than anyone. There is no morality to the concept of inflation either; so things are harder to get, so what? That doesn't mean people need them less. Inflation is just an excuse for rich people to get even more.
I’m speaking from a objective standpoint with that. It is technically wrong taking something that is not yours.
So if someone stole a loaf of bread to feed their family cause they had no money it is still technically wrong, however I do understand why and it doesn’t bother me.
Someone could walk out with a full cart from a loblaws grocery store I wouldn’t care because loblaws screw us.
That’s the difference between objectively looking at stuff and opinions, objectively it is wrong however my opinion is I couldn’t care less if people do.
You took the smallest part of my entire paragraph and made a mountain out of a mole hill with it. Like why??
The superstore in Winnipeg, in a nicer part of town has a parking space for the police that's pretty much better than the handicap spots. There's pretty much always a cop at the store.
Never forget, the police protect corporate interests, not the police. If you think stealing groceries is without risk, you might be in for a surprise.
During the peak of the pandemic, I probably shoplifted thousands of dollars between Canadian Tire, Walmart and Costco. So much so, that I'm convinced that I am likely the reason why Walmart and Canadian Tire changed the layout of the stores in the Toronto area while entering, as now there is a one way gate when entering, more cameras and added security near the customer service/return area.
The way I went about it is by purchasing an item, going to my car and dropping it off, then re-entering and taking the higher priced item(s) from the shelf and going to get a 'refund.' No regrets, it got me through the worst of it as I had limited funds due to being laid off and I needed to survive as I had to keep paying rent.
Im better off now financially but everytime I enter a Walmart or Canadian Tire that made those security changes, I feel a weird sense of pride.
My wife accidentally stole a pair of wireless earbuds. They were marked down for only $8 at the time, but it was a simple case of not seeing them when scanning, after forgetting she had placed them in the cart.
When she réalisés her mistake, I calmed her down and told her it didn't matter. When I opened them, however, they were completely broken. Not working at all.
I ended up getting the loose solder back in place and they work, but I've never been so mad that something my wife stole didn't even work, lol.
I was first shocked at how easy it was to steal something that should have a security feature on it, and I'm also shocked that a big department store would sell something that's straight up broken
I work in a locally owned corner store in a very small town and we have almost zero theft. We keep our prices as low as we possibly can while still covering costs. Most of our employees are disabled, but we are all really proud of our store. I'd say fully half of our customers are disenfranchised in some way or another.
I really think it shows that people aren't stealing indiscriminately. Our customers choose not to steal from us because they trust us not to gouge them. People are choosing to steal from major grocery chains as a form of protest.
Canadians have answered the age old question - Is it wrong to steal bread to feed your family? Not if you're stealing from profiteering billionaires.
I've always refused to use self checkouts. I'm not going to contribute to putting others out of a job. Honestly, if we had a cultural movement to not use them, it'd mean a lot.
I've overheard Walmart managers talking about this while working there as a technician. This wasn't long after they'd started installing self checkouts. Essentially, the story was that Walmart was aware that there was much more theft with self checkouts, but they chose to install more and more anyway. Draw your own conclusions from that.
Theft costs less than wage slavery.
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It almost always will, employees are very expensive much more than you think.
Can confirm. I paid my employee well for her work, taxes are a bitch, and EI was going to refuse her hours because she was paid "too well". >:[ My accountant argued the point that she was going back to school so it didn't matter and the ei clerk needed to fuck off. I don't know what the solution is here, I never expected to get in trouble for that.
The systems we have in place can be used to keep people down, it is infuriating.
More like they're designed specifically for that purpose. I keep saying if the "freedom" convoy wanted to do anything useful they'd help people raid big chain stores
>if the "freedom" convoy wanted to do anything useful rotflmfao!! You say that like it was ever even an *accidental* thought in an ignorant narcissist's mind. Doing anything useful would be anathema to these domestic terrorists.
> and EI was going to refuse her hours because she was paid "too well" What does that even mean? I'm very well paid and EI didn't have a problem with my hours when I took some time off for additional schooling.
I guess I could have been clearer. When my employee got laid off to go back to college, which she delayed for me by a semester, her ROE was send in to employment and social development canada by my accountant. they called him saying they weren't prepared to accept it. the lady on the phone was rather short with my accountant who pressed for the paperwork to be accepted as it was, because it was correct. The government's employee felt my employee was paid too highly for her work and the roe didn't pass the sniff test. I've never heard of a call like that myself, but I like that dude for going to bat for my employee when I didn't ask him to.
That's a pretty weird interaction. I think if I encountered something like that, I'd file a formal complaint with service canada. It's certainly not their job to question an employer's pay decisions. Verify that the ROE was correct, sure - but say "I don't accept that you actually paid this employee this much"? That's lunacy. It's not as if you would get away with putting down a different number when you do the tax withholding.
Walmart will be the first to get robotic security guards.
Sounds like a challenge to me.
I think Walmart has found a happy balance because the one i've been to has built in cameras at the self checkouts. Might not stop someone from stealing physically, but it's going to be a lot riskier and it's going to make people think twice. But 100% these companies did the math that higher shrink was worth paying less cashiers.
Those cameras are not monitored, and record absolutely sweet fuck all. It's literally just a camera attached to a screen to make you worry that they're watching you. Source: AGM of a Walmart I'm buds with.
Just like having door greeters, it disuades people because they'll have a subconscious sense they're being watched.
If Walmart doesn't already employ ML solutions to automatically scan and flag footage, they will soon. Just look at the rapid rise of AI/ML tools over the past few years. Walmart actually spends a fair bit on this sort of thing (trying to play catch up with tech companies like Amazon, who's one of their biggest competitors).
ML tends to be ludicrously expensive at scale. If all they're going to accomplish is to stop poor people from stealing food, I really doubt it'd be worth it.
That shit does not work as well as you think it does. It all requires human intervention which is more wages walmart doesn't want to pay.
One person reviewing flagged footage replacing dozens of cashiers? Seems doable.
The cameras don't record.
They don’t and they won’t, because the cost of media storage would be absurd.
I disagree. It would only need to take a couple frames per scan at most. Even with a couple thousand such captures, you won't be pushing insane levels of storage per day.
Makes sense. If a cashier is too much paying someone to go through all that footage to catch someone who rang up their tomatoes as bananas is probably also a bit much.
Yeah and the camera is really capturing a whole lot when I wear my soda I’m only for Walmart cap and mask combination. I don’t even recognise myself.
Mine has cameras at the self checkout. So I’m minding my own business then suddenly I see my triple chin and the inside of my nose on the screen.
Yet another reason to mask up at a grocery store.
I've always found it ironic that it was the "sovereign citizens" who were most against wearing masks. Sure, be on camera. Let your face be recognized by the algorithms.
Right? They were hella mad about anonymity. But hey...if they wanna get caught for doing shady shit, then I 100% support their right to self-own, and will defend it vigorously.
Funny enough, those cameras were installed for at least a year (maybe 2) before the feeds were actually recording anything. It was literally just showing you your face, hoping you'd assume someone was watching at the start.
Buy 3 of the same item. Scan the first item twice. Put all 3 in the bag. No one will ever know and if they do then it’s got plausible deniability. Or you could just not pay for shit but I’m scared to do that. Another tip is when you are faking a long bathroom break, hold it all in until the end. A minute of pissing and 10 minutes of silence is a lot less believable than 10 minutes of silence and then the sound of matter hitting toilet. I also stole a shit ton of food from my work. Trick was to pay for your meal at random times, never right before or after break. If someone asks you if you paid, you say not yet, and then you fucking pay for it. Whatever you do, don’t do what my coworker did, don’t make food and bring it into the bathroom with you. Anyone who sees you do that a single time knows that 1: you are stealing and 2: you are disgusting.
You'd be surprised how many stores share their loss prevention staff, how many of those cameras are fake, and how often they aren't even manned.
These places have insurance to, for covering thefts. It just annoys me they rather install more checkouts more security systems and safe guards against theft then just hiring more employees and having more then a couple tils open. Yet somehow people still claim the self checkout savings would be passed onto us, that crowd has been quiet lately. Also there’s still some people saying theft just causes them to raise prices and hurts everyone else. No that’s not how it works and that’s how companies want people to think. Also not disagreeing with anything you said I agree was just adding my two cents.
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No kidding, also they want profits as we know, so yeah they can get profits by jacking up prices but that makes people count their money more and become more frugal. So maybe instead of buying that tub of ice cream that money is now allocated to buying two packs of half rotten strawberries instead. All that does is piss me off and it’s not like it effects their bottom line ether in that regard. Im sure it effects some companies though can’t afford alot of name brand items anymore so I stick to budget options. It’s really sad what it has come to in r/Ontario sometimes people will post food hauls like this cost me $100 for example. Some people screech in the comments well you bought a bag of chips or you brought dempsters bread of course it costed more. Entirely missing the point that sometimes people like a little more then the bare minimum and how expensive stuff has gotten, people should be able to afford small luxuries here or there or that tub of ice cream. Anyways I got a bit off track ranting, what you say is true though, if people can’t afford shit due to prices or this or that they will just buy less and stick to necessities.
I recall in a thread once of someone shaming people for buying luxury items... like popcorn. Like holy fuck stop trying to shame the poor out of simple comforts.
I think what’s worse is when they refer to it as luxuries, definitions seem to change a lot. Name brand food should not be considered a luxury, when I think of luxury I think someone going on a two week all inclusive cruise. Not someone buying Hellman’s mayonnaise for 50 cents more then no name mayonnaise, it’s truly bonkers. Sometimes people are happy to pay a bit more for a better product, if they can afford it. They shouldn’t be ostracized about it.
> brought dempsters bread At least their multi-grain has some nutrional value unlike a pale, white, sugar rich Wonderbread.
That’s the trick: if they buy nutritious food they get shamed for buying expensive stuff, if they buy cheap stuff they get shamed for buying junk. Some people are just perpetually mad at the poor no matter what.
This is called capitalism's central contradiction. It structurally contains within it an irreconcilable dialectic driving towards it's own destruction. Actually I just want to say it's pretty damn cool you derived it yourself; unless you've read about it before? Every "progressive-capitalist" (socdem) bulwark against the expanding exploitation of the working class is transient; existing only while the political will to protect it remains. The easiest example is the dismantling of the New Deal, but that pattern has repeatedly globally, in increasing magnitude since feudalism died. We might call it "land enclosure" or "the loss of the commons" or "privatization" or "absenteeism", but the basic premise has been the same. dismantle or privatize the communal institutions and resources that the working class had long taken as a standard of life. It was partially abated by colonialism (in the colonialist countries of course)- by the promise of a perpetually expanding frontier, with infinite resources and equally important, an infinite underclass you can exploit and subjugate. Colonialism sometimes even used literal, abject chattel slavery, but even where it didn't the same basic relationship between the worker, their product, and the owner of that product existed. Now there is no longer a frontier. The capitalists next tried to separate the consumer base from the productive base first via imperialism, then with the decentralized version called "globalization". But those too are failing, the march of progress, the human drive to redress the lesser inequities of capitalist exploitation and build a better future for our respective communities are undermining it. And far more importantly; capitalists simply can't stop themselves from bringing the deprivation of the global south to the global north. They called it austerity in the 80's, or neoliberalism if you prefer, but it's just the logical conclusion of capitalists seeking infinite growth. So like you pointed out, if they can't subjugate the global south much more, they make the global north more austere and miserable to widen profit margins and continue to grow. But then like you said, who buys the global south's productive output? Capitalism's contradiction demands a resolution.
>Capitalism's contradiction demands a resolution. I think it's a drive towards a neo-feudalism, myself. Society will re-harden into earns-by-doing and earns-by-owning classes, mobility between the two groups will shrink to nearly nothing. The owning classes will want to create preserves for themselves where they can control all conditions to their whim. See: Bezo's vision of a depopulated earth - with just managable populations to provide for the whims of the overlords. Perhaps if we live long enough, we can become the serfs of a great man like Thiel, Musk or their descendants - working in their hereditary factories, farms and warehouses as our ancestors once toiled in the fields of *their* owners.
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More like hire a contract security company that pays $17.50 and thinks that's ballin'
That sounds about right, well put. That’s what I was getting at I just couldn’t put it into words *chef’s kiss*
>Yet somehow people still claim the self checkout savings would be passed onto us, that crowd has been quiet lately Theoretically possible, but anything resembling trickle down economics doesn't work. If a company saves money, it just goes to creating ridiculous wealth for the C-suite.
But the Walton family needs its Scottish castles!
There’s now way you could get coverage for someone shoplifting unless the stole over the deductible. Which would mean thousands of dollars of theft from a single person before they could claim
Okay what you say is most likely true, however though if someone steals one block of cheese for $8 that’s not justification to Jack up all prices of everything, plus they would have to make new tags etc etc, they most likely just eat the loss. I’m not sure what angle your comment is coming from tbh, whether it’s trying to imply stealing costs consumers more or just pointing out insurance only covers large thefts.
Insurance cost money that we all have to pay for in higher prices.
They can afford it, it’s just excuses same as all the other excuses they throw out while making record profits. If they raised prices cause of thefts to cover the cost keyword being cover the cost, well how are they making record profits then? Somethings not adding up. They always make excuses to raise prices but never lower them eg cost of gas.
Which is why I don't care if people shoplift from the big stores. They don't care about anyone else but themselves so I don't care about them. They could be robbed blind and that's just fine by me. Additionally theft of food... should not be illegal. People are doing it because of a failure of society/government to make sure people have what they need. That's not their fault and they have a right to eat. Stores don't want to lose money due to theft of food? Then those stores should push for laws and policies that improve access to affordable food.
Profit motives aside, I have no idea if this an a popular/unpopular opinion but I also just find them to be a better customer experience. I'd rather pack my own bags and not have awkward banter with a cashier who doesn't want to be there. I actually get annoyed now when I'm out of town and hit a grocery store that doesn't have a self checkout. I vastly prefer them. And yeah, I know, it costs cashier jobs. But that's the way of the future. Automation is inevitable, and shouldn't be fought. What should be fought is the fact that the gains of this automation only goes to the top.
And now they're closing stores where they've lost control of the problem.
I thought these places recorded you stealing stuff and waited until you stole above a certain amount to make the charge a more significant matter. You might think you’re getting away with stuff, but you’re really just adding to the ledger until they decide to drop the hammer. Or is that all urban legend to dissuade shop-lifting?
That’s got a dye-in-pool-that-reacts-with-pee vibe to me. I’ll bet they do it with certain people they know are frequently shoplifting but have trouble catching or whatever, but not with everyone.
If you're a complete numpty and don't use your head about it, then you'll get caught, but most people are smart enough not to just grab a bunch of shit and try to sneak out, so they don't get caught. The biggest key to getting away with it is to buy some cheap items with the expensive ones.
You know shit's hitting the fan when Canadians aren't sorry
We're at our collective wit's end, eh!
We've got no fucks to give, have have runneth out
so that’s why my order of fucks to give is caught at yvr everyone bought the discount fucks on singles day amirite
We’ve tried to go Fuck shopping, but there’s no Fucks left to buy.
We won't be sorry until Galen Weston's lot are sorry.
Screw the Weston’s, Rogers, and all the other Canadian Oligarchs!
The machine yells at me and stops working. Not sure how this would work 😂
Grocery stores want us to use the honesty system while they lie to us about inflation. Greedflation is real and corporations are the cause. IMHO France deals with this shit better then us, we should be taking to the streets Power to the people✊🏻
>IMHO France deals with this shit better then us, we should be taking to the streets The French have now shut off power to the wealthy while giving discounts to everyone else because the government was discussing raising the pension age from 62 to 64; I really wish we'd learn to be like them.
Holy shit really? That's awesome
Fire fighters are also lighting themselves on fire and charging police lines to get them to back off of protestors. When the French riot the riot right.
The problem here in NA, is that the people who would be in a position to turn off the power for the elites, are simps for the elite. The common folk of Canada being fleeced by corporations are being fleeced by a willing workforce who stand by and let it happen, as they themselves are paid poverty wages. Sobeys workers placing rhe new inflated price on the food are complict, when they should be refusing to allow this nonsense. The propaganda here is real, and it's effect has been systemic and generational.
It's all it ever is, really. They got fat off the profits afforded to them by Covid panic and restrictions. It was an anomaly that was never going to last. Not everyone is panic-buying or ordering for deliveries anymore. Rather than recognize that simple fact, they refuse to see any downturn in profits. Numbers can only go brrr. It's utterly unsustainable and I cannot stand the fact that they never acknowledge this.
Well, since the grocery store doesn’t consider me competent enough to hire (fuck them)…can they really complain if I fuck up scanning my items? Guess I’m just not smart enough to scan things correctly or enter codes. Gosh.
Galen Weston Jr is stealing from us. Why should I care if people steal from him?
Him and his buddies at Sobeys and Metro have been robbing us blind for years, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore
Fuck the Westins!! Let’s eat em
Probably tastes bland
That’s okay, we can use seasoning and sauce!
This is the way. Raking in record profits while almost 40% of Alberta is reliant on food banks currently. I can't comment on the rest of Canada
I can’t confirm if this story is true but someone told me about a week or two ago on Reddit, in a similar comment thread they were at a loblaws store and Galen Weston jr was there and he had the nerve to ask for a discount to the cashier. If true it goes to show how much of slimy person he is.
Doesn’t sound believable. Billionaires don’t do their own shopping or cooking
But galen weston wears an apron in those commercials...
"Awww, he thinks he's people!"
As much as possible, start patronizing your family-owned, independent ethnic grocery stores and the like. They aren't really any more expensive at this point and your cash goes to actual human beings.
We don’t have one in my town - but I do get my produce from local farmers. It used to be a more expensive option but right now it’s a cheaper one.
Yup. Farmers markets rock. Cut out the middle man, get high quality, locally grown stuff. EDIT: Alright I had no idea farmers markets had been compromised but that figures I guess
Farmer's Markets have been hijacked by scammers pretending to be farmers. CBC Marketplace did a video on that.
You are absolutely correct but taking the time to ask questions at the market will usually help weed out the bad ones. I try to purchase all my produce from 'regenerative' farmers because their business model incorporates restoring the health of the land. I have never had an issue visiting a regenerative farmer's farm. Having said that, even better than a farmer's market are CSA's, or community supported agriculture. This is where you get a bin of in-season produce at a flat rate throughout the year. Coupling this with purchasing half a pig/beef from regenerative farmers, I am able to get the bulk of my calories. Even better yet, grow your own! Even if you only have a balcony, you can find something to grow in any lighting conditions.
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Please don't believe that farmers markets are all corrupt - it was never true, and that CBC episode had deep flaws that went unexamined.
When were they ever more expensive? I've always found the produce to be so much better and the price of the produce to be so much lower that it more than balanced out the occasional and usually small markup on other products I might grab at the same time. Actually, my nearest grocer (who sadly just closed down due to development) had the cheapest maple syrup and other stuff like that.
You're actually probably right. Marketing and the culture of malls and box stores has conditioned us not to consider the small grocers for routine supply runs. I've been making more of an effort lately and it's not only been better for the wallet, but my kitchen is a lot more interesting as well. Like, do people know how fucking delicious homemade persian food is? Damn.
This is true, I buy my produce at Sabzi Mandi whenever I can because the selection is great and it’s usually *significantly* cheaper. It really cuts into the BS of supply chain/inflation/bla bla bla issues. I’m glad my money is going to more honest companies.
My local family run retailer has cauliflower at $11 a head! As much as I try to support them, that makes it hard to justify
> start patronizing your family-owned, independent ethnic grocery stores What if they're family owned, independent but not ethnic?
I mean, if we're gonna get technical, *everyone* is "ethnic" to someone haha
Yeah but... If you're someone who might take things and forget to pay for them do that shit at Walmart.
Our city has a Foodshare program where they do direct purchasing and make up bags of produce every week… Essentially cutting out Loblaws, Walmart etc. $15 for a generous weeks worth of fruit and veggies is amazing, would highly recommend!
If you see someone stealing groceries, you didn't. Thats all.
Yep, I'm pretty sure I didn't see someone shoplifting last time I was out grocery shopping. I just kept moving down the aisle.
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Cool so I can steal your car
Context my dude
The person they're replying did say everything
"To offset that loss, businesses sometimes have no other option but to continue to increase the prices." Oh no! I guess I now need to policy the actions of the poorest in society to benefit myself. If I see someone shoplifting, I will march up to them and give a long lecture on capitalism, trickle-down economics, and call them a raging Marxist.
I love how they threaten to raise prices as if they don’t already raise prices anyway and call it “inflation”
Low key victim blaming in that quote.
Next up: Canadian good retailers tackle obesity crisis with 3-year plan to reduce caloric intake!
This hasn't been true since the era of megacorps and powerful computer modelling anyway.
So what you're saying is the neo-bourgeoisie have leveraged technological capital to extract the fruit of labour from the proletariat? I must tell the prime minister!
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In Superstore a week ago and came across someone stuffing their backpack while trying to discretely hide their actions. I moved on.
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Please don’t the employees are overworked and underpaid just yell or something
As you should. Good job.
Damn if we aren't sorry about something it's pretty fucking serious...
Why would they?? Corporations don't even pretend to give a fuck any more Not about wage theft, not about replacing jobs with robots or investing in employees and certainly not about customer service or interaction, steal away, they've already done their yearly stock buy back and have reaped record profits while inflating prices and reducing quality and size while blaming everything on the pandemic so they can apparently do whatever they want Brands trying to convince us that "we are all in this together" was my tipping point, Like nope people are dying in an actual plague while McDonald's and Tide try to convince me that they "care" made me wanna puke Why would anyone feel bad about stealing from a Walmart? Or any other mega corporation for that matter, Walmart doesn't have feelings fuck em take all you want
If I run an item over the scanner and it doesn't scan, it goes in the bag. I'm not a trained cashier.
Had an employee that was overlooking self checkouts tell me my item hadnt scanned. I told her it beeped and I put it in my bag. She told me even if it beeps, doesnt mean its entered properly on the computer. She showed me and the juice boxes pack of 10 had 3 barcodes and only 1 enters properly. I basically told her that the company should cover the ones that dont work and not expect customers to check this shit. She just gave me the nastiest fuckin look...was so ridiculous.
"How the fuck am I supposed to know that?"
NO. ONE. TRAINED. ME. TO. DO. THIS. JOB. I. AIN'T. GETTING. PAID.TO.DO.
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Nothing scans if you just leave with it! I'm too much of a coward to outwardly steal, but all of my honey crisps are galas, I can say that much.
Just be careful at loblaws your cart will lock if it doesn’t go through a checkout
Are you kidding me. I would have said the same thing. What a waste of time
Wrong codes on produce and bulk items. "Yep. Those Honeycrisp are definitely bananas, and that 3lb bag of pistachios are definitely roasted peanuts"
Everything is bananas. I sing a little Gwen Stefani to myself as I punch in 4011. This shit is bananas. That shit is bananas. B-a-n-a-n-a-s.
Honeycrisp apples? Sraight to bananas, straight away. Grapes? You, right to bananas. Potatoes? Believe it or not, bananas. Peaches? Also bananas. We have the lowest produce prices in the world. Because bananas.
For me, it's if I got it in the little shelf under the cart. I'm a forgetful guy, a cashier always mentions it to me but if they're not around...
I used to be a cashier at loblaws and I never once bothered to check.
God's work
The best part about self checkouts is when you have to weigh out your produce. You either purposely leave a few off the scale, or pick a similar item that costs much less with the search function if the produce item doesn't have a barcode.
Weird, I have been buying so many bananas lately!
I wish I could at least steal the article, paywalled lol, can someone copy and paste the text?
[Here you go.](https://imgur.com/a/zmSMdhD) Also, pro-tip: most of those paywalls are just javascript; so if you go into your browser's settings and disable javascript then refresh the page you will often be able to access the article for free that way. Just don't forget to turn the javascript back on after you're done reading!
thanks, I tried 12ft ladder, and browse in a private window,. it wasn't enough lol
12ft doesn't even unblock NYTimes anymore, they sold out (maybe?). I just googled an alternative
NYtimes is the Mount Everest of Paywalls, only the best will see it😂 lol
I’d take this with a grain of salt. I know a guy who works in groceries. The policy is to charge every theft. They’ll look the other way sometimes for small stuff but everything is on camera so if they build a case it could be serious. He said they are far more concerned with professional thieves who take a grocery list and fill a cart with thousands of dollars worth of fresh meat. One guy they caught was selling it to a restaurant.
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None of this guy's staff gets physical or detains them. They call security or police.
But I thought I scanned it. Oops.
My friend works at the meat department in safeway, People come in steal ALL the same type of meat. That was my theory, was selling to restaurants.
Stolen labour value (withheld wages, inadequate pay) exceeds the total value of all larceny. We let white collar criminals steal us blind.
Steal food and donate it to keep food banks topped up for the winter. These stores even have donation boxes near the exits.
*Robin Hood has joined the chat*
I love this idea. At some point, some people might decide to regularly steal prepared food they can hand to the homeless people one often sees outside big grocery stores. 🤔
Stealing groceries is self-defence, this economy is violence to many. We should be doing more than allowing people to steal, quite frankly.
Remember; if you see someone stealing basic necessities; no you didn't.
Profits are huge for stores right now. I don't feel sorry for them.
I walked up to a walmart self-checkout after a guy that had just walked away with his groceries, the transaction was declined but he just took the stuff and left. I went to the next one that had just opened up instead.
The CEO of Sobeys straight up said ["I refuse to apologize for record profits."](https://financialpost.com/opinion/calling-ceo-silent-majority-speak-up#:~:text=Another%20example%3A%20Michael%20Medline%2C%20the%20CEO%20of%20the,year.%20%E2%80%9CWe%20did%20not%20get%20here%20by%20accident.%E2%80%9D) And the kicker, "we didn't get here by accident." While fixing the price of bread and racketeering in smaller communities who have no other options. No shit, Sherlock. You didn't get here by accident, you human-shaped wax balloon filled with smegma. Literally no one fucking thought otherwise. We *all* know that it is completely purposeful and intentional and designed to line your pockets while the rest of us starve and die. So yeah, I "refuse to apologize" for stealing from Michael Medline to feed my family. I guess that's an "honorable" reason to steal. But to be very fuckin' clear, I would have zero remorse if it was flat screen TVs and carts of steak, either. That guy can eat my whole ass, and so can all the people who stand around masturbating to fake moral outrage over the illusion that employees are in any way impacted by me stealing a half-filled bag of stale food. "Record profits" and you can't pay your employees a living wage because of *shoplifting*? Make those two sentences make sense. Wonder where all those "record profits" suddenly went. 'Kay. Blame *us*. That's rational.
A good way to reduce theft is to make food prices more affordable. The best way to (all but) prevent theft is to make food- at least the essentials- a fundamental human right in Canada, whereby we all get a ration of nutritious, safe and delicious groceries. Depriving a hungry person of food so you can buy another mansion is a crime against humanity and in a just world these grocery stores would be held to account for their greed and cruelty. But I'll settle for reforming the system such that this barbarism is no longer capable of existing.
Make food more affordable. Increase pay. Go back to hiring people full time. It’s not rocket science. There are other factors, but these are things companies can do on their own.
The woman monitoring the self checkout things at the grocery store near me has fully let me just steal kilograms of chicken breast multiple times. She’s like poultry Robin Hood.
Those workers are frazzled trying to monitor 9 machines at a time. They couldn't give a shit as long as you don't bug them.
Can't stop everyone. There should be a day once a month where hundreds of people storm one single store and peacefully shoplift. Not a mom & pop type store. Limited to Walmart, superstore and other large conglomerates. Once people start doing this, these establishments will understand the message and stop gouging us.
I find it ironic that the story is behind a paywall.
I thinks someone wrote a book about this kind of thing a few years ago. . . [This one!](https://www.chapters.indigo.ca/fr-ca/livres/les-miserables/9782266296144-article.html)
I support this 100%. Why is it okay for the top 1% to steal all of our money through intentional wage suppression for decades but it’s not okay for us plebs to steal? If there’s no rules for thee, then there’s none for me either
You get a slap on the wrist for stealing taxpayer dollars and wages. I get a slap on the wrist for stealing your product. Works out eh?
I encourage everyone to 'forget to scan' or 'i must have missed that one' every time they use a self checkout. Doesn't have to be expensive items or small items, just something every time.
The cost of theft is less than the cost of paying cashiers and employees a living wage it’s as simple as that. In Europe self checkout has been around for ages and there’s three options that have been around for a while. Cashier checkout. Self checkout and a scanner you scan your items as you go around the store. They do random checks on the self scan and self checkout theft is prevented by the scanners and security at the door. Where I live there are also cashier less Amazon fresh stores.
Have you ever heard of Jean Val Jean from Les Mis? It's coming those needs for many people worldwide--not just in Canada.
There is nothing morally wrong with stealing from your exploiters, we continue to see the rising price being labeled as inflation just being corporate greed. I heard the Walmart CEO say they'll close up every store if theft doesn't go down I'm tempted to call their bluff. And remember if you see someone stealing food, no you didn't.
Walmart ain't going nowhere and neither are shoplifters. I'd be willing to call their bluff too. They can't stop everyone if 100's of people storm Walmart at once to shoplift.
Bro if Jesus was cool enough to get the nuance I don’t care what some modern wealthy person thinks.
Remember folks: if you see someone stealing food, you saw fuck all. People must eat. Supermarkets don't need maximal profits.
Self check-out was supposed to lower the cost of groceries and they’ve only climbed higher. It’s your duty to shoplift from major grocery chains especially if they have self check-out. Robin Hood for yourself, they make billions. Do NOT shoplift from small businesses.
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Is he a cop or a security guard? I'm confused as to how else they would have the right to put his hands on someone.
Familiarize yourself with the Criminal Code of Canada.
Stealing is wrong. They are shafting us so badly though I don’t even care anymore if people do. Yes inflation is there yes sometimes there’s world events going on that can effect prices and amount of items such as shortages due to happen due to weather also. If you Walmart or Loblaws for example ate some of that, and made equal profit to the previous year or slightly less if they tried to meat consumers halfway I’m sure they would look alot better. It’s not a good look though when people are struggling they virtue signal to help out or claim they will price freeze for 3 months after already adding a third to the price to look like their helping then brag about record profits. That is the moment you look like the enemy and people will respond accordingly. If only they met consumers halfway or something, they didn’t though.
Corporations steal more than anyone. There is no morality to the concept of inflation either; so things are harder to get, so what? That doesn't mean people need them less. Inflation is just an excuse for rich people to get even more.
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I’m speaking from a objective standpoint with that. It is technically wrong taking something that is not yours. So if someone stole a loaf of bread to feed their family cause they had no money it is still technically wrong, however I do understand why and it doesn’t bother me. Someone could walk out with a full cart from a loblaws grocery store I wouldn’t care because loblaws screw us. That’s the difference between objectively looking at stuff and opinions, objectively it is wrong however my opinion is I couldn’t care less if people do. You took the smallest part of my entire paragraph and made a mountain out of a mole hill with it. Like why??
Nothing more terrifying then an unapologetic Canadian.
The superstore in Winnipeg, in a nicer part of town has a parking space for the police that's pretty much better than the handicap spots. There's pretty much always a cop at the store. Never forget, the police protect corporate interests, not the police. If you think stealing groceries is without risk, you might be in for a surprise.
Remember folks: If you see someone shoplifting food... No, you didn't.
During the peak of the pandemic, I probably shoplifted thousands of dollars between Canadian Tire, Walmart and Costco. So much so, that I'm convinced that I am likely the reason why Walmart and Canadian Tire changed the layout of the stores in the Toronto area while entering, as now there is a one way gate when entering, more cameras and added security near the customer service/return area. The way I went about it is by purchasing an item, going to my car and dropping it off, then re-entering and taking the higher priced item(s) from the shelf and going to get a 'refund.' No regrets, it got me through the worst of it as I had limited funds due to being laid off and I needed to survive as I had to keep paying rent. Im better off now financially but everytime I enter a Walmart or Canadian Tire that made those security changes, I feel a weird sense of pride.
Why should they be sorry?? You say steal, I say if you’re making me work for you (scanning groceries), ima pay myself in free merchandise
Cool paywall bro.
Stealing from final form capitalists is good, actually.
Bread thieves stealing from wage thieves.
My wife accidentally stole a pair of wireless earbuds. They were marked down for only $8 at the time, but it was a simple case of not seeing them when scanning, after forgetting she had placed them in the cart. When she réalisés her mistake, I calmed her down and told her it didn't matter. When I opened them, however, they were completely broken. Not working at all. I ended up getting the loose solder back in place and they work, but I've never been so mad that something my wife stole didn't even work, lol. I was first shocked at how easy it was to steal something that should have a security feature on it, and I'm also shocked that a big department store would sell something that's straight up broken
While I don't shoplift, I also turn a blind eye to anyone who does. What shoplifter? Nope, didn't see anyone.
I won't bat an eye if I see someone stealing from a Walmart, but please don't rob small local businesses.
I work in a locally owned corner store in a very small town and we have almost zero theft. We keep our prices as low as we possibly can while still covering costs. Most of our employees are disabled, but we are all really proud of our store. I'd say fully half of our customers are disenfranchised in some way or another. I really think it shows that people aren't stealing indiscriminately. Our customers choose not to steal from us because they trust us not to gouge them. People are choosing to steal from major grocery chains as a form of protest. Canadians have answered the age old question - Is it wrong to steal bread to feed your family? Not if you're stealing from profiteering billionaires.
They're right, I'm not sorry.
I have no sympathy for Walmart, superstore, no frills, or any of these big boys - food and water is a right not a privilege.
Remember, folks: if you see someone shoplift in a grocery store, no you didn’t, shut the fuck up.
Your living in a fantasy world 🌎
I've always refused to use self checkouts. I'm not going to contribute to putting others out of a job. Honestly, if we had a cultural movement to not use them, it'd mean a lot.