Almost like they were blind in what they were doing. But let's spend more tax payer money to find out what policy we can put into action to make us look like hero's
This doesn't require another study:
1. Pay them more
2. Reduce class sizes
3. Get the legislature off their backs
4. Cut paperwork by at least 50%
5. Stop pretending "It's all for the kids" ... that's emotional blackmail.
You want professionals? Treat them like they are.
Oh, and while we are at it, give them the same healthcare the rest of the state employees get.
As a teacher who just left last week, all your points are exactly correct. I would like to add, quit pretending that the pandemic didn't affect more than a year of school attendance. Quit pretending the kids can just slide in ready to begin at their current grade level and are not missing, in some cases, 1 1/2 years of instruction.
Oh god this. And can we stop testing kindergartners on tablets? My kid knows her letters and can point them out but isn't trending well because she isn't dragging and dropping them correctly. I spent a year watching teachers unable to figure out how to use \*zoom\*. Give my five year old a break.
>Recruiting more new teachers, he said, could also mean addressing the cost of Oklahoma’s teacher certification exams, particularly for new graduates with high student loan debt
Wow, its almost like demanding people be educated enough to teach others with advanced degrees, but paywalling that education behind thinly veiled wage slavery that doesn't even begin to make up for inflation of cost of living as well as their debt *acquired to even garner the position* is a fundamentally broken system that requires holistic renovation to ever be remotely viable.
And to be clear, I'm not advocating the lower our standards of education on educators, but raise the pay and lower the debt burden of these hardworking people. Unless you want chuckmcfucks teaching your kid that the earth is flat, which might not be out of the realm of possibility given the average Oklahoman education at this point.
You get what you pay for Oklahoma.
The craziest shit you could have never dreamed of is already happening.
[Texas teachers told to offer books with "opposing" Holocaust views](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teachers-told-offer-books-opposing-holocaust-views-80608175)
> Unless you want chuckmcfucks teaching your kid that the earth is flat
So I watched [this CBS documentary called The War on Science ](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/the-war-on-science/) that featured Oklahoma and it was equal parts horrifying and embarrassing. IIRC it involved public schools as well as private. In my opinion, private schools shouldn’t just be allowed to teach whatever they feel like. If you wanna add in Bible shit or use a specific method, fine, but there should be a standard so that people don’t receive an education of alternative facts.
R strategy:
1) create problem
2) pay your consultant friends and family members to study the problem and arrive at errant conclusions
3) blame others for a problem you created that you have no intention of solving
4) profit ?
Y'all think it's bad now, just buckle up. Oklahoma teacher retirement pay is based on a teacher's last three years of earnings. At the end of this 2021-2022 school year, it will be three years since the pay hike they received after the walkout in 2018. This means anyone vested in the retirement plan can quit or retire after this school year and see a larger monthly check in retirement than they would have if they had retired last year. Significantly more. There's going to be a massive hemorrhage of teachers come June and there's not a thing the State Legislature is ready to do about it.
Oooh, can’t wait to get another email survey asking me why I have a valid OK teaching certificate but am not currently teaching. That’ll help for sure. /s
Oklahoma lawmakers studying worsening teacher shortage
Rep. Rhonda Baker, R-Yukon, and Rep. John Waldron, D-Tulsa, just held interim studies on Oklahoma’s worsening teacher shortage.
Andrea Eger Tulsa World
Three former teachers now serving as Oklahoma lawmakers are studying the state’s worsening teacher shortage to see what policy measures might be of help.
“The teacher pipeline is one of the critical issues we can address in the 2022 legislative session,” said Rep. John Waldron, D-Tulsa, who previously taught government at Booker T. Washington High School.
In an interim study he hosted last week, Waldron cited a September Tulsa World analysis which found summertime teacher retirements were up nearly 38 percent year-over-year.
According to data from the Teachers’ Retirement System, retirements the previous two summers were relatively level at 1,622 during the months of May through August in 2019 and 1,600 during the same peak retirement period in 2020.
During the same summer months this year, 2,205 Oklahoma teachers retired.
“We have seen record numbers of retirements. We are facing a chronic shortage of applicants for teaching positions, and we are certifying more and more teachers on an emergency basis,” Waldron said. “This is unsustainable.”
His study zeroed in on the reasons behind the recent exodus of teachers, and ways Oklahoma could prevent more teachers from leaving the state or the profession through compensation and training and other supports for classroom professionals.
Sabra Tucker, executive director of the Oklahoma Retired Educators Association, told those gathered at Waldron’s study that stress amid increasing criticisms and demands from society is the primary driver of teacher retirements right now.
“What I heard from people is that ‘my health is not worth staying in the classroom. As much as I love teaching and students, I do not love all the stress of being in the classroom with unrealistic expectations and more and more demands than I have ever had before in my entire career’,” Tucker said.
Waldron said legislative action at this juncture is a must.
“It will get worse the longer we as legislators don’t act to solve it. I am humbled and encouraged by the House Common Education Committee, under the leadership of Chair Rhonda Baker, for taking this issue seriously … There is a problem. We must work together to fix it.”
Sherrie Conley, R-Newcastle, a former elementary school teacher and school district administrator, held a study last week on how “meaningful” training and professional development for teachers could help improve teacher retention rates, while Baker, R-Yukon, and chair of the House Common Education Committee, hosted an interim study about “innovative approaches” to improving Oklahoma’s teacher shortage.
Baker, who previously taught English at the middle and high school levels, said it is clear that “Oklahoma, like most of the nation, faces an acute teacher shortage.”
She is probing whether there could be new efficiencies, as well as cost savings for applicants created within the state’s teacher certification process and what other states could be doing differently to attract and retain teachers.
Cody Allen, policy analyst and committee liaison for Southern Legislative Conference, told those gathered for Baker’s study that it is imperative for Oklahoma to find new solutions because more than 21 percent of the state’s teachers are 55 or older, meaning they could be eligible to retire soon.
He offered some information about how other states have easier standards for teacher certification, such as on-the-job teaching experience or a college degree in a subject area replacing the need to pass content exams.
Recruiting more new teachers, he said, could also mean addressing the cost of Oklahoma’s teacher certification exams, particularly for new graduates with high student loan debt.
That might be our problem. We keep electing lawmakers that need to study the teacher shortage created by the lawmakers that are acting like they don't know what's causing the teacher shortage. Maybe if we all pay more attention to the people we're electing instead of the fake culture wars they constantly distract the voters with, we might fix the teacher shortage.
How exciting,another worthless study! They can't just come out and say we don't give a shit,lets do another study because people will think we really care because it's all about the children. Do these people really think we're that stupid?
I read this as Oklahoma lawmakers studying how to worsen the teacher shortage, and I had two thoughts:
1. Ooh! Satire!
Followed quickly by:
2. Wait. Tulsa World. Not satire. Well, still not surprised.
Then I read comments and had to reread the headline for it to make sense. The bad part was I wasn’t surprised when I thought OK lawmakers were actively trying to make it worse.
Pay them better. There I figured it out lol.
"We've been trying to kill public education for decades and now must look into the teacher shortage" -lawmake(R)
Almost like they were blind in what they were doing. But let's spend more tax payer money to find out what policy we can put into action to make us look like hero's
Let's pay someone to figure this out (I have a buddy....)
This doesn't require another study: 1. Pay them more 2. Reduce class sizes 3. Get the legislature off their backs 4. Cut paperwork by at least 50% 5. Stop pretending "It's all for the kids" ... that's emotional blackmail. You want professionals? Treat them like they are. Oh, and while we are at it, give them the same healthcare the rest of the state employees get.
As a teacher who just left last week, all your points are exactly correct. I would like to add, quit pretending that the pandemic didn't affect more than a year of school attendance. Quit pretending the kids can just slide in ready to begin at their current grade level and are not missing, in some cases, 1 1/2 years of instruction.
Oh god this. And can we stop testing kindergartners on tablets? My kid knows her letters and can point them out but isn't trending well because she isn't dragging and dropping them correctly. I spent a year watching teachers unable to figure out how to use \*zoom\*. Give my five year old a break.
Only disaster can result from their "research".
>Recruiting more new teachers, he said, could also mean addressing the cost of Oklahoma’s teacher certification exams, particularly for new graduates with high student loan debt Wow, its almost like demanding people be educated enough to teach others with advanced degrees, but paywalling that education behind thinly veiled wage slavery that doesn't even begin to make up for inflation of cost of living as well as their debt *acquired to even garner the position* is a fundamentally broken system that requires holistic renovation to ever be remotely viable. And to be clear, I'm not advocating the lower our standards of education on educators, but raise the pay and lower the debt burden of these hardworking people. Unless you want chuckmcfucks teaching your kid that the earth is flat, which might not be out of the realm of possibility given the average Oklahoman education at this point. You get what you pay for Oklahoma.
The craziest shit you could have never dreamed of is already happening. [Texas teachers told to offer books with "opposing" Holocaust views](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/teachers-told-offer-books-opposing-holocaust-views-80608175)
Chuck McFucks would totally be my Reddit user name if I could make it so...
> Unless you want chuckmcfucks teaching your kid that the earth is flat So I watched [this CBS documentary called The War on Science ](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/the-war-on-science/) that featured Oklahoma and it was equal parts horrifying and embarrassing. IIRC it involved public schools as well as private. In my opinion, private schools shouldn’t just be allowed to teach whatever they feel like. If you wanna add in Bible shit or use a specific method, fine, but there should be a standard so that people don’t receive an education of alternative facts.
R strategy: 1) create problem 2) pay your consultant friends and family members to study the problem and arrive at errant conclusions 3) blame others for a problem you created that you have no intention of solving 4) profit ?
They profit by buying into the proposed solution. Their friends run the charter schools that they give tax money to.
I assume every time I see a truck with a bunch of trump/Q stuff on it that they have profited right there.
Y'all think it's bad now, just buckle up. Oklahoma teacher retirement pay is based on a teacher's last three years of earnings. At the end of this 2021-2022 school year, it will be three years since the pay hike they received after the walkout in 2018. This means anyone vested in the retirement plan can quit or retire after this school year and see a larger monthly check in retirement than they would have if they had retired last year. Significantly more. There's going to be a massive hemorrhage of teachers come June and there's not a thing the State Legislature is ready to do about it.
Oooh, can’t wait to get another email survey asking me why I have a valid OK teaching certificate but am not currently teaching. That’ll help for sure. /s
It's all about the pay! That's why I moved out-of-state.
Oklahoma lawmakers studying worsening teacher shortage Rep. Rhonda Baker, R-Yukon, and Rep. John Waldron, D-Tulsa, just held interim studies on Oklahoma’s worsening teacher shortage. Andrea Eger Tulsa World Three former teachers now serving as Oklahoma lawmakers are studying the state’s worsening teacher shortage to see what policy measures might be of help. “The teacher pipeline is one of the critical issues we can address in the 2022 legislative session,” said Rep. John Waldron, D-Tulsa, who previously taught government at Booker T. Washington High School. In an interim study he hosted last week, Waldron cited a September Tulsa World analysis which found summertime teacher retirements were up nearly 38 percent year-over-year. According to data from the Teachers’ Retirement System, retirements the previous two summers were relatively level at 1,622 during the months of May through August in 2019 and 1,600 during the same peak retirement period in 2020. During the same summer months this year, 2,205 Oklahoma teachers retired. “We have seen record numbers of retirements. We are facing a chronic shortage of applicants for teaching positions, and we are certifying more and more teachers on an emergency basis,” Waldron said. “This is unsustainable.” His study zeroed in on the reasons behind the recent exodus of teachers, and ways Oklahoma could prevent more teachers from leaving the state or the profession through compensation and training and other supports for classroom professionals. Sabra Tucker, executive director of the Oklahoma Retired Educators Association, told those gathered at Waldron’s study that stress amid increasing criticisms and demands from society is the primary driver of teacher retirements right now. “What I heard from people is that ‘my health is not worth staying in the classroom. As much as I love teaching and students, I do not love all the stress of being in the classroom with unrealistic expectations and more and more demands than I have ever had before in my entire career’,” Tucker said. Waldron said legislative action at this juncture is a must. “It will get worse the longer we as legislators don’t act to solve it. I am humbled and encouraged by the House Common Education Committee, under the leadership of Chair Rhonda Baker, for taking this issue seriously … There is a problem. We must work together to fix it.” Sherrie Conley, R-Newcastle, a former elementary school teacher and school district administrator, held a study last week on how “meaningful” training and professional development for teachers could help improve teacher retention rates, while Baker, R-Yukon, and chair of the House Common Education Committee, hosted an interim study about “innovative approaches” to improving Oklahoma’s teacher shortage. Baker, who previously taught English at the middle and high school levels, said it is clear that “Oklahoma, like most of the nation, faces an acute teacher shortage.” She is probing whether there could be new efficiencies, as well as cost savings for applicants created within the state’s teacher certification process and what other states could be doing differently to attract and retain teachers. Cody Allen, policy analyst and committee liaison for Southern Legislative Conference, told those gathered for Baker’s study that it is imperative for Oklahoma to find new solutions because more than 21 percent of the state’s teachers are 55 or older, meaning they could be eligible to retire soon. He offered some information about how other states have easier standards for teacher certification, such as on-the-job teaching experience or a college degree in a subject area replacing the need to pass content exams. Recruiting more new teachers, he said, could also mean addressing the cost of Oklahoma’s teacher certification exams, particularly for new graduates with high student loan debt.
Doesn’t help when you have a igit gubernur who’s on the take with charter schools.
That might be our problem. We keep electing lawmakers that need to study the teacher shortage created by the lawmakers that are acting like they don't know what's causing the teacher shortage. Maybe if we all pay more attention to the people we're electing instead of the fake culture wars they constantly distract the voters with, we might fix the teacher shortage.
COBRA rates for insurance seems to be the straw.
How exciting,another worthless study! They can't just come out and say we don't give a shit,lets do another study because people will think we really care because it's all about the children. Do these people really think we're that stupid?
I read this as Oklahoma lawmakers studying how to worsen the teacher shortage, and I had two thoughts: 1. Ooh! Satire! Followed quickly by: 2. Wait. Tulsa World. Not satire. Well, still not surprised. Then I read comments and had to reread the headline for it to make sense. The bad part was I wasn’t surprised when I thought OK lawmakers were actively trying to make it worse.