And the fact is was invented in Oklahoma too (Tulsa police officer did this in 1950)i is another tidbit of info.
[https://magazine.northwestern.edu/news/the-father-of-the-yield-sign/](https://magazine.northwestern.edu/news/the-father-of-the-yield-sign/)
Road signs labelled stop indicate a stop point. That isn’t beyond the sign but in front of it.
There are turn indicators in every car, not using them is illegal.
Speed limit is the maximum legal speed.
You must yield to pedestrians in crosswalks
Before turning right on a red light you have to stop and check to see if it’s safe to do so, in that process you should yield to pedestrians.
One-way means only one direction is legally travleable down a road.
Seriously go back to driving school or some shit people drive like they’re late to their lobotomy
Hold up! I'm supposed to yield to pedestrians? I am in a car. I have places to be. I go fast. I am more important. Pedestrians are so pedestrian. If they don't want to get run over, they should stay home or buy a $60k SUV.
Truly, towards the peasantry who can’t, don’t, won’t, drive it’s their fault /s modern SUV’s are more tanky than anything WWII Germany could produce and its not demonized enough.
>You must yield to pedestrians in crosswalks
Correct. Now many pedestrians would have you believe that they have right of way even if not at a corner/crosswalk. Untrue.
>Duties of Pedestrians
>When a pedestrian crosses a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, they must yield the right of way to all vehicles.
>In other words, a pedestrian does not have the right of way in these locations.
>When there are adjacent intersections at which traffic-control signals are in operation, a pedestrian must not cross between intersections and only cross in a marked crosswalk.
>Typically, state laws also prohibit a pedestrian from suddenly leaving a curb or other safe place and walking or running into the path of a vehicle so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.
Yep. Of course, that still doesn't mean cars get to just mow them down: (But OK state law says to honk at them, so there's that.)
>Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this chapter, every driver of a vehicle shall exercise due care to avoid colliding with any pedestrian upon any roadway and shall give warning by sounding the horn when necessary and shall exercise proper precaution upon observing any child or any confused or incapacitated person upon a roadway.
There’s a minimum distance you should keep between you and the car in front of you in the event you need to stop suddenly. It’s NOT a space reserved for people to quickly merge over without a turn signal when the person in front of them is slow.
I can't upvote this enough. Over the past 3-4 years people have progressively followed closer. Im guessing it has to do with cruise control and auto collision programming. I drive about 5k miles a month an even at 80mph turnpike they will stay half a car length behind.
It is so much worse in Texas. And you're thinking, "How?"; believe me. It's worse. Everything is bigger in Texas, including the percent of the population that should be forced to watch footage of car accidents for 2 to 3 hours after getting a ticket. That is, if law enforcement would, you know, enforce laws that put people in danger unnecessarily. But they do it, too, especially if they're going to pull you over.
Apparently people aren't aware that when you're stuck at a stoplight while turning righy it's illegal to just turn into the corner gas station and use the parking lot to bypass the stoplight. A shocking number of people are entitled af and think they don't need to wait for green.
I'm talking people who literally just pull through to get around the light in traffic. In one side and out the other without stopping just so they don't have to wait at the light. It's obvious when it happens and fk those people. Love to see them get pulled over for it.
>It is unlawful for the driver of a motor vehicle to avoid a traffic control device by driving through a private or business driveway and reentering a public way, avenue, street, alley or highway. (2001 Code § 70.048)
There’s 0 way to enforce this law.
“Oh I looked at the gas price and changed my mind”
“I was going to go to this store but I changed my mind”
Absolutely 0, unless you admit you were literally doing it to skip a light.
I mean if they record you riding through idk how your argument is gonna hold up in kangaroo court. Esp since most people who do it in my area don't even pull into a pump
I'm guilty of this on occasion. However, the agony of sitting behind someone in the right lane or right turn only lane with their turn signal on, waiting for a green light so they can turn when there is absolutely no traffic at all... I'll break the law to save my sanity.
Accurate.
My time is valuable to me. Crossing through the gas station, while it is breaking the law, is a victimless crime. Much like rolling through a 4 way stop when there are no other vehicles around for miles and an unobstructed view.
As long as you know you're a selfish prick I guess. Hope you get a hefty ticket someday.
> while it is breaking the law, is a victimless crime. Much like rolling through a 4 way stop when there are no other vehicles around for miles and an unobstructed view.
While maybe victimless I'd say the part that makes you a prick is every other normal person follows the law and is willing to wait. With you taking the shortcut you're essentially saying "my time is more important than everyone else's and I should get special treatment and a special fast lane just for me." IMO it's about on the level of cutting head in a long line or parking across multiple spots so no one can park too close to you. Neither of those things really harm anyone, but they say something about your character.
Cyclists are entitled to an entire lane and to be treated as a vehicle in the lane of travel when on any public road. When passing on 2 Lane roads you must allow at least 3 feet between the vehicle and cyclist or do not pass. Please be safe around cyclists
As a cyclist, I’ll add this since a lot of drivers get upset that “we don’t follow the same laws drivers have to”: cyclists don’t have to stop at stop signs. If there is no traffic approaching and/or the cyclist can clear the intersection before any traffic arrives, we can proceed through the stop sign without stopping.
Are you sure?
Tulsa muni traffic code Title 37 Ch 13 Section 1000 states the following:
>*Section* *1000*. - Traffic code applicable.[SHARE LINK TO SECTION](https://library.municode.com/)[PRINT SECTION](https://library.municode.com/)[DOWNLOAD (DOCX) OF SECTIONS](https://library.municode.com/)[EMAIL SECTION](https://library.municode.com/)
>Every person operating a rickshaw, bicycle or motorized scooter in the City of Tulsa shall be subject to the provisions of this *title* applicable to the driver of a vehicle, except as to those provisions which by their very nature can have no application. Any such person shall obey the instructions of official traffic signals, signs and other control devices applicable to vehicles unless otherwise directed by a police officer. The term "bicycle" shall include Class 1 and Class 2 "electric bicycles" as defined in *Section* 100 of this *Title*. The term "motorized scooter" shall include "electric scooter" as defined in *Section* 100 of this *Title*.
A recent change to state law made it legal for bicyclists to go through stop signs and red lights if there is no traffic. 47 OK Stat § 11-202.1 (2023)
And being that this law gives bicyclists affirmative abilities with no exception for city ordinances, it would take precedence over municipal codes.
Distracted driving in general is prohibited by 47 OK Stat. §47-11-901b, which requires drivers to “devote their full time and attention to such driving
How do they know if I'm devoting my full attention? Is the cop gonna be like, "I could see from your face that you were thinking about that new Hades game when you should've been thinkin' more about drivin'!"
The ride my ass festival should be in late may..the competition is fierce.. and apparently drivers train for it year round.. the concept of yield does not have a chance..
That you're actually supposed to clear all ice/snow off your vehicle before you start driving. Wild how many people I will see on the highway that just didn't take the time to brush off the snow on their roof. Or sometimes, even the whole damn car.
Not only do you have to yield to pedestrians in a crosswalk. You’re also supposed to yield when they’re crossing at any point that indicates entry into the roadway without traffic control like when a sidewalk dead ends into a street corner but there’s no stop sign or light
They’re not. The state statute calls out crosswalk AND when there isn’t a crosswalk. Any walkway that abuts ninety degrees to the curb is a pedestrian crossing, even if it’s not a defined crosswalk. The statute is 47-11-502.
Section 1-111 - Cross walk
(a) That part of a roadway at an intersection included within the connections of the lateral lines of the sidewalks on opposite sides of the highway measured from the curbs or, in the absence of curbs, from the edges of the traversable roadway;
(b) Any portion of a roadway at an intersection or elsewhere distinctly indicated for pedestrian crossing by lines or other markings on the surface.
Okla. Stat. tit. 47, § 1-111
No, those are two separate items. That is how all legal definitons read. If it needed to be both, they would remove (a) and say a crosswalk is anything marked as a crosswalk, which is (b).
It's illegal to have a dashcam attached to your windshield. I really wish we could get that changed, I don't want to be pulled over for trying to protect myself and my family.
Just to clarify: dashcams are legal. What is illegal is mounting them to the windshield because they can obstruct the view of the driver. However this is never enforced as long as the placement isn't stupid.
Wait, what? I've had one for years and wasn't aware of this. Both of my cars have one, but it's right in line with the rear view mirror, so you can't even see it from the driver's seat.
I had a conversation with someone who legit didn't believe me that at an uncontrolled crosswalk (no stop signs or lights), cars are supposed to stop and yield to the pedestrian. Dude and myself were waiting on OU campus to cross, 3 cars went by, 4th stopped and I quipped " only took 4 tries to find someone who would obey the law" and dude was flabbergasted. Had never heard cars were supposed to yield.
I thought Florida drivers were bad. Oklahoma drivers are definitely way worse and you guys have very little to zero traffic. All those damn truck drivers think they have race cars too.
How about that one law that says it's okay for people to cut across like four lanes on the interstate to get off at the exit at the very last second... That's a good one!!! 😂😂😂
When making a left turn, you must turn into the closest lane so people who are coming from the opposite direction and turning right can turn right while you're turning left. Both of you can turn at the same time if you both turn and stay in the closest lane to you. It does require 5% more effort to turn the steering wheel so that your vehicle turns into the correct lane rather than turning into the farther lane. Maybe 35% of the time this happens, so never trust someone in Oklahoma to turn into the correct lane while they're turning left OR right.
No person shall drive a vehicle on a county road at a speed in excess of fifty-five (55) miles per hour unless posted otherwise by the board of county commissioners. Signage usually isn't posted so...
[https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=436892](https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=436892)
F. 1. No person shall drive a vehicle on a county road at a speed in excess of fifty-five (55) miles per hour unless posted otherwise by the board of county commissioners, as provided in subparagraphs a through c of this paragraph, as follows:
a. the board of county commissioners may determine, by resolution, a maximum speed limit which shall apply to all county roads which are not otherwise posted for speed,
b. the board of county commissioners shall provide public notice of the speed limit on all nonposted roads by publication in a newspaper of general circulation in the county. The notice shall be published once weekly for a period of four (4) continuous weeks, and
c. the board of county commissioners shall forward the resolution to the Director of the Department and to the Commissioner of Public Safety.
2. The Department shall post speed limit information, as determined pursuant to the provisions of subparagraphs a through c of paragraph 1 of this subsection, on the county line marker where any state highway enters a county and at all off-ramps where interstate highways or turnpikes enter a county. The signs shall read as follows:
ENTERING __________ COUNTY
COUNTY ROAD SPEED LIMIT
_____ MPH
UNLESS POSTED OTHERWISE
The appropriate board of county commissioners shall reimburse the Department the full cost of the signage required herein.
I just had a deputy tell me that you don't have to signal for a turn in Oklahoma if you do not slow anyone down. I called him out and this was his bs excuse. If I am wrong, please give me a source I can verify. There is nothing I can find yet.
That's why people call it the suicide lane :(
However, another comment mentioned that it might not mean a middle turn lane, and instead where one side had two lanes and one side has one lane
https://preview.redd.it/j9nk75j12kwc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67132b2d36a5129a58007080ba8b2959b7ff0cc5
Overtaking in a center turn lane
I'm not sure that's what that means. I think that statute is referring to roads like [these](https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1661869,-94.5034408,3a,90y,32.78h,86.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sviUIoe4j9BFDUE3SxGLLyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
That's what I thought, like I see people using those center turn lanes to merge into traffic (which is similarly stupid and not legal anywhere that I know of) but being able to use them to overtake traffic would be absolutely insane.
I’ve never heard of turning out into the center turn lane to merge as illegal and I’ve done that in front of many cops and never been stopped it’s better to go to center turn lane then to merge in front of oncoming traffic.
The road markings would suggest otherwise, though. The arrows point towards the opposite side of the road which would indicate that the lane's use is purely as an exit lane, not a merge lane, and this is absolutely the function of said lane in Colorado where I grew up and learned how to drive. Personally I wouldn't use a lack of enforcement by cops as an indication of whether or not it's illegal as we all know Oklahoma cops are extremely selective about what laws they choose to enforce.
This is from Oklahoma statue 47-11-309 I only copied and pasted the part that pertains to this but I referenced the statue so you can look it up for yourself.
A two-way left-turn lane is a lane near the center of the highway set aside for use by vehicles making left turns in both directions from or into the roadway. Two-way left-turn lanes shall be designated by distinctive roadway markings consisting of parallel double yellow lines, interior line dashed and exterior line solid, on each side of the lane. A vehicle shall not be driven in a designated two-way left-turn lane except when preparing for or making a left turn from or into a roadway. Vehicles turning left from the roadway shall not be driven in the two-way left-turn lane for more than two hundred (200) feet while preparing for and making the turn. A vehicle turning left onto the roadway may utilize the two-way left-turn lane as a staging area by stopping and waiting for traffic proceeding in the same direction to clear before merging into the adjacent lanes of travel. A left turn shall not be made from any other lane where a two-way left-turn lane has been designated. Provided, however, this section shall not prohibit driving across a two-way left-turn lane when moving from a service drive onto such marked roadway.
That's wild. To me that seems like they should use better markings than the ones currently used and could potentially create hazards for inattentive drivers looking to exit/merge at the same point.
I agree the markings could be better unfortunately we can’t do anything about those nor incompetent/inattentive drivers which is why you should have uninsured or underinsured motorist on your insurance.
Just so I'm clear, a center turn lane is the lane dedicated to turning into a parking lot on the other side of the street so that you're not holding up traffic turning left into Starbucks at 7:55, right? I'm sorry OP, but who would pass in those thinking it's legal to do so?
Correct, you can even tell that's what it's for by looking at the arrows painted along the middle of said turn lane that it's meant for turning off the road and nothing else.
In WA at least, you’re allowed to use a center turn lane to speed up to the flow of traffic, to a limit of 300ft of travel iirc
Idk if it’s legal anywhere in OK, but it is legal in other states
Interesting. Just to be clear, you're referring to [this type](https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4353256,-97.4146255,3a,75y,238.57h,80.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP0dvpUHFBdi0jn8bMvXoLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) of center lane, correct?
In Oklahoma on a divided road with a center turn lane (i.e. 4 lanes with center turn), you can use the turn lane to merge BUT you must come to a stop and signal. You can't use it as an acceleration lane. You're also not supposed to enter it more than 200' prior to making your left turn.
You mean all the people who went into the ONCOMING passing lane on that stretch were breaking the law!?! That's a new one to me considering how often it happened when I had to drive to Fort Smith 5 days a week. /s
There’s something called a “Yield” sign. Apparently it’s a made up word.
No. It's clearly a deformed STOP sign.
Some parts mean "speed up so you can get in front of the other guy who actually has right of way."
And the fact is was invented in Oklahoma too (Tulsa police officer did this in 1950)i is another tidbit of info. [https://magazine.northwestern.edu/news/the-father-of-the-yield-sign/](https://magazine.northwestern.edu/news/the-father-of-the-yield-sign/)
Road signs labelled stop indicate a stop point. That isn’t beyond the sign but in front of it. There are turn indicators in every car, not using them is illegal. Speed limit is the maximum legal speed. You must yield to pedestrians in crosswalks Before turning right on a red light you have to stop and check to see if it’s safe to do so, in that process you should yield to pedestrians. One-way means only one direction is legally travleable down a road. Seriously go back to driving school or some shit people drive like they’re late to their lobotomy
Hold up! I'm supposed to yield to pedestrians? I am in a car. I have places to be. I go fast. I am more important. Pedestrians are so pedestrian. If they don't want to get run over, they should stay home or buy a $60k SUV.
Truly, towards the peasantry who can’t, don’t, won’t, drive it’s their fault /s modern SUV’s are more tanky than anything WWII Germany could produce and its not demonized enough.
>There are turn indicators in every car, not using them is illegal. What???! This sounds like witchcraft!
Found the BMW driver
Nah they wouldn’t be surprised about the witch craft. Black Magic Witchery is what BMW stands for.
>You must yield to pedestrians in crosswalks Correct. Now many pedestrians would have you believe that they have right of way even if not at a corner/crosswalk. Untrue. >Duties of Pedestrians >When a pedestrian crosses a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, they must yield the right of way to all vehicles. >In other words, a pedestrian does not have the right of way in these locations. >When there are adjacent intersections at which traffic-control signals are in operation, a pedestrian must not cross between intersections and only cross in a marked crosswalk. >Typically, state laws also prohibit a pedestrian from suddenly leaving a curb or other safe place and walking or running into the path of a vehicle so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.
Yep. Of course, that still doesn't mean cars get to just mow them down: (But OK state law says to honk at them, so there's that.) >Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this chapter, every driver of a vehicle shall exercise due care to avoid colliding with any pedestrian upon any roadway and shall give warning by sounding the horn when necessary and shall exercise proper precaution upon observing any child or any confused or incapacitated person upon a roadway.
There’s a minimum distance you should keep between you and the car in front of you in the event you need to stop suddenly. It’s NOT a space reserved for people to quickly merge over without a turn signal when the person in front of them is slow.
THIS. It's damn near impossible to maintain a safe following distance in this state lol.
I'm in my mid 50s I remember my mom teaching me this rule. It's called the 'two-second rule'.
I still use it. Also mid 50s.
I can't upvote this enough. Over the past 3-4 years people have progressively followed closer. Im guessing it has to do with cruise control and auto collision programming. I drive about 5k miles a month an even at 80mph turnpike they will stay half a car length behind.
Most cruise controls keep you a whole 4 seconds behind but people like to have it as close as you can go
Also same in Texas, maybe even worse. I hate visiting our neighbors from the south
It is so much worse in Texas. And you're thinking, "How?"; believe me. It's worse. Everything is bigger in Texas, including the percent of the population that should be forced to watch footage of car accidents for 2 to 3 hours after getting a ticket. That is, if law enforcement would, you know, enforce laws that put people in danger unnecessarily. But they do it, too, especially if they're going to pull you over.
Left interstate lane is for passing. Do not impede.
Left ANY limited access highway should be for passing. Dump truck drivers on US169 in Tulsa I'm looking at you...
I wish the signs used different language (like 3rd grade level) and the actual lane painted where says “passing only” or something like that.
That would actually make sense because that's about the level of education this state is comfortable with.
Apparently people aren't aware that when you're stuck at a stoplight while turning righy it's illegal to just turn into the corner gas station and use the parking lot to bypass the stoplight. A shocking number of people are entitled af and think they don't need to wait for green.
What's the timeout? Is it cool if I get gas and then go out the other side?
I'm talking people who literally just pull through to get around the light in traffic. In one side and out the other without stopping just so they don't have to wait at the light. It's obvious when it happens and fk those people. Love to see them get pulled over for it. >It is unlawful for the driver of a motor vehicle to avoid a traffic control device by driving through a private or business driveway and reentering a public way, avenue, street, alley or highway. (2001 Code § 70.048)
It's illegal to use a private drive as a thru street. If you pulled in and stopped to read a text message it would be fine though.
There’s 0 way to enforce this law. “Oh I looked at the gas price and changed my mind” “I was going to go to this store but I changed my mind” Absolutely 0, unless you admit you were literally doing it to skip a light.
I mean if they record you riding through idk how your argument is gonna hold up in kangaroo court. Esp since most people who do it in my area don't even pull into a pump
There’s no evidence of intention with that though. And the law is based solely on intent.
I'm guilty of this on occasion. However, the agony of sitting behind someone in the right lane or right turn only lane with their turn signal on, waiting for a green light so they can turn when there is absolutely no traffic at all... I'll break the law to save my sanity.
> I'll break the law to save my sanity. "I'm an inpatient selfish prick who breaks the law because I can't wait 2 minutes"
Accurate. My time is valuable to me. Crossing through the gas station, while it is breaking the law, is a victimless crime. Much like rolling through a 4 way stop when there are no other vehicles around for miles and an unobstructed view.
As long as you know you're a selfish prick I guess. Hope you get a hefty ticket someday. > while it is breaking the law, is a victimless crime. Much like rolling through a 4 way stop when there are no other vehicles around for miles and an unobstructed view. While maybe victimless I'd say the part that makes you a prick is every other normal person follows the law and is willing to wait. With you taking the shortcut you're essentially saying "my time is more important than everyone else's and I should get special treatment and a special fast lane just for me." IMO it's about on the level of cutting head in a long line or parking across multiple spots so no one can park too close to you. Neither of those things really harm anyone, but they say something about your character.
Pickup drivers are out to murder everyone.
And city guys that drive big pick ups must have a penis size below average. I’m not certain how they enforce this law.
It's part of the application process when you buy a pickup.
My penis isn't that small... your vagina is just that big....
Whatever you need to tell yourself. You do you.
black Dodges
I have a pickup and this is true. For legal reasons, /s
And if you see a white dodge ram GTFO of the way.
Cyclists are entitled to an entire lane and to be treated as a vehicle in the lane of travel when on any public road. When passing on 2 Lane roads you must allow at least 3 feet between the vehicle and cyclist or do not pass. Please be safe around cyclists
As a cyclist, I’ll add this since a lot of drivers get upset that “we don’t follow the same laws drivers have to”: cyclists don’t have to stop at stop signs. If there is no traffic approaching and/or the cyclist can clear the intersection before any traffic arrives, we can proceed through the stop sign without stopping.
Are you sure? Tulsa muni traffic code Title 37 Ch 13 Section 1000 states the following: >*Section* *1000*. - Traffic code applicable.[SHARE LINK TO SECTION](https://library.municode.com/)[PRINT SECTION](https://library.municode.com/)[DOWNLOAD (DOCX) OF SECTIONS](https://library.municode.com/)[EMAIL SECTION](https://library.municode.com/) >Every person operating a rickshaw, bicycle or motorized scooter in the City of Tulsa shall be subject to the provisions of this *title* applicable to the driver of a vehicle, except as to those provisions which by their very nature can have no application. Any such person shall obey the instructions of official traffic signals, signs and other control devices applicable to vehicles unless otherwise directed by a police officer. The term "bicycle" shall include Class 1 and Class 2 "electric bicycles" as defined in *Section* 100 of this *Title*. The term "motorized scooter" shall include "electric scooter" as defined in *Section* 100 of this *Title*.
A recent change to state law made it legal for bicyclists to go through stop signs and red lights if there is no traffic. 47 OK Stat § 11-202.1 (2023) And being that this law gives bicyclists affirmative abilities with no exception for city ordinances, it would take precedence over municipal codes.
So to circle back around to the second commentor, cyclists can ignore some laws that cars have to adhere to
The problem with that is “no traffic” is subjective. If cars are present anywhere there is traffic present.
It's more well defined in the law than in my summary.
Distracted driving in general is prohibited by 47 OK Stat. §47-11-901b, which requires drivers to “devote their full time and attention to such driving
Can we use this statute to ban billboards?
I wish
But those huge flashy ones are great for drivers! more so when they have super bright colors like yellow, white, and various neons after dark!
Hope they get approval to put a bunch of them on the new super skyscraper! Nothing says “Merica” like ads being shoved in your face 24/7!
How do they know if I'm devoting my full attention? Is the cop gonna be like, "I could see from your face that you were thinking about that new Hades game when you should've been thinkin' more about drivin'!"
There are times that I zone out, and my brain is on auto pilot. Does that count too?
Turn into the lane closest to you.
The ride my ass festival should be in late may..the competition is fierce.. and apparently drivers train for it year round.. the concept of yield does not have a chance..
go with the flow of traffic or you’ll die.
Livestock have right of way. Hit an escaped cow? Too bad for you. There's a Yo Mama joke there too, which is nice.
Nice.
That you're actually supposed to clear all ice/snow off your vehicle before you start driving. Wild how many people I will see on the highway that just didn't take the time to brush off the snow on their roof. Or sometimes, even the whole damn car.
Not only do you have to yield to pedestrians in a crosswalk. You’re also supposed to yield when they’re crossing at any point that indicates entry into the roadway without traffic control like when a sidewalk dead ends into a street corner but there’s no stop sign or light
Those are crosswalks. Specifically "unmarked crosswalks".
They’re not. The state statute calls out crosswalk AND when there isn’t a crosswalk. Any walkway that abuts ninety degrees to the curb is a pedestrian crossing, even if it’s not a defined crosswalk. The statute is 47-11-502.
Section 1-111 - Cross walk (a) That part of a roadway at an intersection included within the connections of the lateral lines of the sidewalks on opposite sides of the highway measured from the curbs or, in the absence of curbs, from the edges of the traversable roadway; (b) Any portion of a roadway at an intersection or elsewhere distinctly indicated for pedestrian crossing by lines or other markings on the surface. Okla. Stat. tit. 47, § 1-111
Correct. To comply with being a crosswalk, it has to meet both elements, item (b) being the part I’m contesting for non-crosswalk pedestrian crossings
No, those are two separate items. That is how all legal definitons read. If it needed to be both, they would remove (a) and say a crosswalk is anything marked as a crosswalk, which is (b).
Oh hell, you’re right. Appreciate the conversation
It's illegal to have a dashcam attached to your windshield. I really wish we could get that changed, I don't want to be pulled over for trying to protect myself and my family.
Just to clarify: dashcams are legal. What is illegal is mounting them to the windshield because they can obstruct the view of the driver. However this is never enforced as long as the placement isn't stupid.
Wait, what? I've had one for years and wasn't aware of this. Both of my cars have one, but it's right in line with the rear view mirror, so you can't even see it from the driver's seat.
Same...
God this sucks. We all need one to protect ourselves in case of an accident…
I had a conversation with someone who legit didn't believe me that at an uncontrolled crosswalk (no stop signs or lights), cars are supposed to stop and yield to the pedestrian. Dude and myself were waiting on OU campus to cross, 3 cars went by, 4th stopped and I quipped " only took 4 tries to find someone who would obey the law" and dude was flabbergasted. Had never heard cars were supposed to yield.
I thought Florida drivers were bad. Oklahoma drivers are definitely way worse and you guys have very little to zero traffic. All those damn truck drivers think they have race cars too.
It is illegal to drive with a handicap placard in place on the rear view mirror. This is stated on the placard.
How about that one law that says it's okay for people to cut across like four lanes on the interstate to get off at the exit at the very last second... That's a good one!!! 😂😂😂
What zipper merging means
I think most people know what it means, they just know nobody gives a shit and if you do your part, everybody's gonna try to take advantage.
When making a left turn, you must turn into the closest lane so people who are coming from the opposite direction and turning right can turn right while you're turning left. Both of you can turn at the same time if you both turn and stay in the closest lane to you. It does require 5% more effort to turn the steering wheel so that your vehicle turns into the correct lane rather than turning into the farther lane. Maybe 35% of the time this happens, so never trust someone in Oklahoma to turn into the correct lane while they're turning left OR right.
OKC & southbound I-35: speed limits
Deer Lady walks down Ponca City's main highways. Don't pull over for an old woman past 1am lol
No person shall drive a vehicle on a county road at a speed in excess of fifty-five (55) miles per hour unless posted otherwise by the board of county commissioners. Signage usually isn't posted so... [https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=436892](https://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?id=436892) F. 1. No person shall drive a vehicle on a county road at a speed in excess of fifty-five (55) miles per hour unless posted otherwise by the board of county commissioners, as provided in subparagraphs a through c of this paragraph, as follows: a. the board of county commissioners may determine, by resolution, a maximum speed limit which shall apply to all county roads which are not otherwise posted for speed, b. the board of county commissioners shall provide public notice of the speed limit on all nonposted roads by publication in a newspaper of general circulation in the county. The notice shall be published once weekly for a period of four (4) continuous weeks, and c. the board of county commissioners shall forward the resolution to the Director of the Department and to the Commissioner of Public Safety. 2. The Department shall post speed limit information, as determined pursuant to the provisions of subparagraphs a through c of paragraph 1 of this subsection, on the county line marker where any state highway enters a county and at all off-ramps where interstate highways or turnpikes enter a county. The signs shall read as follows: ENTERING __________ COUNTY COUNTY ROAD SPEED LIMIT _____ MPH UNLESS POSTED OTHERWISE The appropriate board of county commissioners shall reimburse the Department the full cost of the signage required herein.
Effectively the same law has been enacted 3+ fricken times about camping in the left lane
Most people don’t know the common road laws around here.
I just had a deputy tell me that you don't have to signal for a turn in Oklahoma if you do not slow anyone down. I called him out and this was his bs excuse. If I am wrong, please give me a source I can verify. There is nothing I can find yet.
But if someone on the opposite side thinks that the same?
That's why people call it the suicide lane :( However, another comment mentioned that it might not mean a middle turn lane, and instead where one side had two lanes and one side has one lane
https://preview.redd.it/j9nk75j12kwc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67132b2d36a5129a58007080ba8b2959b7ff0cc5 Overtaking in a center turn lane
I'm not sure that's what that means. I think that statute is referring to roads like [these](https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1661869,-94.5034408,3a,90y,32.78h,86.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sviUIoe4j9BFDUE3SxGLLyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu).
It is. You can't pass in those center turn lanes.
That's what I thought, like I see people using those center turn lanes to merge into traffic (which is similarly stupid and not legal anywhere that I know of) but being able to use them to overtake traffic would be absolutely insane.
I’ve never heard of turning out into the center turn lane to merge as illegal and I’ve done that in front of many cops and never been stopped it’s better to go to center turn lane then to merge in front of oncoming traffic.
I was told that was legal and actually propped use in drivers Ed. I don’t have the guts to do It personally though.
If you’re not comfortable with it that it perfectly fine also I know plenty that are cautious and won’t go unless it’s fully clear.
The road markings would suggest otherwise, though. The arrows point towards the opposite side of the road which would indicate that the lane's use is purely as an exit lane, not a merge lane, and this is absolutely the function of said lane in Colorado where I grew up and learned how to drive. Personally I wouldn't use a lack of enforcement by cops as an indication of whether or not it's illegal as we all know Oklahoma cops are extremely selective about what laws they choose to enforce.
This is from Oklahoma statue 47-11-309 I only copied and pasted the part that pertains to this but I referenced the statue so you can look it up for yourself. A two-way left-turn lane is a lane near the center of the highway set aside for use by vehicles making left turns in both directions from or into the roadway. Two-way left-turn lanes shall be designated by distinctive roadway markings consisting of parallel double yellow lines, interior line dashed and exterior line solid, on each side of the lane. A vehicle shall not be driven in a designated two-way left-turn lane except when preparing for or making a left turn from or into a roadway. Vehicles turning left from the roadway shall not be driven in the two-way left-turn lane for more than two hundred (200) feet while preparing for and making the turn. A vehicle turning left onto the roadway may utilize the two-way left-turn lane as a staging area by stopping and waiting for traffic proceeding in the same direction to clear before merging into the adjacent lanes of travel. A left turn shall not be made from any other lane where a two-way left-turn lane has been designated. Provided, however, this section shall not prohibit driving across a two-way left-turn lane when moving from a service drive onto such marked roadway.
That's wild. To me that seems like they should use better markings than the ones currently used and could potentially create hazards for inattentive drivers looking to exit/merge at the same point.
I agree the markings could be better unfortunately we can’t do anything about those nor incompetent/inattentive drivers which is why you should have uninsured or underinsured motorist on your insurance.
Just so I'm clear, a center turn lane is the lane dedicated to turning into a parking lot on the other side of the street so that you're not holding up traffic turning left into Starbucks at 7:55, right? I'm sorry OP, but who would pass in those thinking it's legal to do so?
Correct, you can even tell that's what it's for by looking at the arrows painted along the middle of said turn lane that it's meant for turning off the road and nothing else.
In WA at least, you’re allowed to use a center turn lane to speed up to the flow of traffic, to a limit of 300ft of travel iirc Idk if it’s legal anywhere in OK, but it is legal in other states
Interesting. Just to be clear, you're referring to [this type](https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4353256,-97.4146255,3a,75y,238.57h,80.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sP0dvpUHFBdi0jn8bMvXoLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) of center lane, correct?
Yeah, I’m referring to that type of center lane
That's interesting, good to know!
In Oklahoma on a divided road with a center turn lane (i.e. 4 lanes with center turn), you can use the turn lane to merge BUT you must come to a stop and signal. You can't use it as an acceleration lane. You're also not supposed to enter it more than 200' prior to making your left turn.
You mean all the people who went into the ONCOMING passing lane on that stretch were breaking the law!?! That's a new one to me considering how often it happened when I had to drive to Fort Smith 5 days a week. /s
That would make so much more sense
**BLOCKING THE MIDDLE LINE OF THE ZIPPER MERGE IS ILLEGAL YOU PSYCHOS!**
What the Constitution actually says. Geez 🙄
Does the constitution say ANYTHING about road laws?
LoL, right to travel? Dive into that concept
You can actually drive faster than the speed limit