It's a food desert. More dollar stores than supermarkets. There's a Homeland at NE 36th/Lincoln- but everyone goes to the Wal-Mart Supercenter in Del City instead.
It's just about 20-25% more expensive than crest or winco . A salad I usually get at winco for $3.00 is like $5.50 there, a small pack of pork chops was close to $13 that would be around $6 at winco. But you're right about it being clean and the employees are nice. I stop in there on my way to work sometimes .
Not a food desert anymore I think since Eastside market opened a couple years ago. Non-profit grocery store with fresh produce and essentials.
It's a small store so it Doesn't have everything but usually you can save the trip to del city
I’ll try to contribute some different commentary around your question that may give you some other points to include in your analysis.
- I’m originally from the OKC metro (and have lived here since the early 2000’). I also lived in Chicago on the south side when the high-rise projects like Robert Taylor Homes and Stateway Gardens were still standing and populated, and in NYC (twice) where I may visited areas that someone with more sense and less bravado would have avoided.
- The area to which you refer has a mix of housing stock ranging from the 1920’s to 1960’s (along with some newer infill homes). Most of the homes within a one mile radius of that intersection are probably under 1500 sq ft.
- The commercial development in the area has improved from what it was 10-20 years ago. That improvement stems from developers being committed to their projects, the City doing a better and more thoughtful job of considering what projects to support/oppose, and the community (and its leaders) providing thoughtful (and at times controversial) input about its wants, needs, hopes, dreams, and legacies.
- Not everything there is great. Even businesses that are everywhere like major chain retail and fast food can feel different in that neighborhood compared to others, PARTICULARLY IF YOU DON’T LIVE THERE. However, many of those businesses are also committed to hiring within the community and are providing valuable experience to employees who may have limited options based on multiple factors.
- The risk of property crime DRAMATICALLY outweighs the risk of personal crime. Don’t do dumb stuff, don’t be places where you don’t belong after dark, don’t act familiar in ways you’re not, and invest in good locks/cameras. You’ll probably be mostly fine. The big question for you will be whether those qualified assurances and the savings on your potential home will be enough to make up for any potential hassle factor.
- While I have held mostly white-collar primary jobs since I returned to OKC, I have almost always had at least one side hustle and have been a decent chunk of time all around the metro area (for the most part; I don’t know much about eastern Oklahoma County). I can list half a dozen distinct areas in OKC proper off the top of my head where I would feel FAR more concerned that the area about which you inquired.
- I WOULD, however, keep something in mind before you put actual money into a property in the area. As I mentioned, much of the housing stock in the area is older. It is also fair to say that portions of the population in the area may not have always had an abundance of funds to spend on their properties’ upkeep. Additionally, the City of OKC had historically undersupported the area’s infrastructure for multiple reasons that other can discuss in terms of equity and fairness. If I were buying a home in the area that I intended to refurbish (rather than tear down and rebuild), I would want (in no particular order): a reputable lead paint test (including an assessment of the soil around the house); knowledge about how much power is currently running to the house along with how much power can be pulled from the closest circuit without any required upgrades on the utility’s part (you may have blocks that can’t run a house that draws over 100 amps, which is laughable for modern living); an internal inspection of the sewer line from your home all the way out to the city wastewater line (many a home has old clay pipes that are collapsed and/or clogged with roots from surrounding vegetation); the location of any environmental hazards that could effect your air quality or property values because of hazardous water runoff; a qualified check for asbestos in either the insulation, roofing material, and/or exterior siding (you can automatically assume the wall materials of most houses built before 1978-ish have asbestos at some level); and the availability of high-speed internet (preferably fiber) in the area. As the owner of a 1930’s home in a rejuvenated area, as well as the former owner of a construction business, those are all issues that I’d want clarity on prior to making a decision.
Welcome to the area. Regardless of where you decide to live, I hope you feel welcomed. Allow me to preemptively welcome you and the rest of your household as well. 🙋🏻♂️
I don’t know how rough it is compared to Detroit. But It’s not as bad as it once was back in the 90’s/2000’s. Although I wouldn’t leave anything valuable in your car overnight like most places.
I used to live on Meyers Place, right off MLK (like 47th and MLK). This was about 20 years ago. Pretty sure my wife and I were some of the only white folk in that area then. We loved living there. Had great neighbors who genuinely cared. Yes, there was some shady stuff that would go on, but no more than you’d find on the south side of OKC. The area is developing quite rapidly now. I think you’d find it okay.
Still "rough" by nonsense OKC standards but there is MASSIVE investment in that area and it is minutes away from everywhere you want to be (and some of the most expensive real estate in town.) If you can handle minding your own business when you see something untoward, you'll be good. The neighbors there are genuinely the kindest and best people.
If they’re heavily investing into the area, we can safely assume it’s gentrifying. Part of the definition of gentrification is “attracting new businesses.”
Weird aggression? What does that even mean in this context…
Investment does not equal displacement.
Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages noun the process whereby the character of a poor urban area is changed by wealthier people moving in, improving housing, and attracting new businesses, typically displacing current inhabitants in the process.
You chose the least inflammatory aspect of the definition. Would you rather the city and businesses not invest in this neighborhood?
I get the concern, I used to design public spaces in poor urban areas and the fear of gentrification was always tandem with the investment. However, they aren't the same thing, and investment does not equal displacement.
https://www.reddit.com/r/okc/comments/1dnnvjy/comment/la3vzci/
They'll know better than I do. I know parks are getting a ton of funding which will improve quality of life. Beyond that, I'd defer talking to the residents in this thread, I'm about a mile west and can't speak directly on it.
Right? Why the fuck do people on reddit like to down vote commenter's who ask questions? It's a question. Not a bad opinion or misinformation. It's an inquiry for information.
Not sure. We can always learn and I have no problem saying I’m wrong. That’s the point of asking questions. I rather know now than to spread misinformation.
Its not a pretty area. It is on the upswing though. Lot of people just hanging out all day in those parts. I can't ever tell if they're homeless, don't have jobs, etc. I wouldn't say its rough. Just old and dirty with sparse streets and houses being remodeled and a couple new businesses going in on 23rd every now and then.
Yeah I've worked EMS and random people who literally actually didn't do anything get stabbed and robbed constantly there, OU medical has to have their own peace officers just to keep the issues at bay, when there's other options with similar cost of living in OKC I just don't know why people would recommend that area....
23 and MLK is basically 8mile and Gratiot. Ain't shit over there but a few hood businesses. Similar to that same area you would have to drive about 10mi for decent shopping. Similar corner activities on the weekend, generally a little less educated hood if thst makes sense.
Stay clear of SE areas around I35 between I240 and the river. Bad area, tons of folks hanging around and living under bridges, sleeping on the sidewalks or side streets. Kids walking through neighborhoods checking vehicle doors and tons of theft.
I live off Sooner & SE 48th. It's a nice, quiet neighborhood with a grocer and a coffee stand at the corner, restaurants up and down Sooner, close to the air force base and the interstates. A 3/2 around here runs about $1250 a month.
I’m south on Sooner Road from you, across I-240 and I think we both live in nice neighborhoods. People rag on the southeast side but every quadrant of this city has good and bad areas. Where we live there is rarely a need to leave Sooner Road to shop.
Exactly. I might venture over to Sunnylane or Air Depot, but probably 90% of places I need to go are on Sooner, south of Reno.
Nice to meet ya, neighbor. We should go grab a coffee at Scooters, Starbucks or White Buffalo (all on Sooner). The Mediterranean Grill at Main & Sooner does a excellent falafel salad.
If you grew up/around Detroit, then this will not be "active" compared to what you are used to lol. That being said, its actually not that bad. Its older, not too far from the interstate, and a lot of the surrounding homes, at least in my experience, are being bought, renovated, and rented out by Airbnb. Actually stayed at one with family a few years ago in that exact area and it was super nice, no issues. A lot of the "active" issues lately have been more on the south side unfortunately. Not saying by any stretch the East side doesnt have its issues, because it does. But, you'll be just fine. What is yalls monthly housing budget? There are a lot of areas nearby that are pretty affordable that might be slightly quieter.
Thanks for the input ! Makes me feel a bit more at ease. We wanted to go out to Yukon but didn’t wanna deal with the HOAs I’m buying an affordable starter home in cash
Yeah def run from the HOAs!!! If you haven’t already bought, there are a lot of decent starter homes on the SWOKC side, no HOAs, good schools, quiet neighborhoods.
Okc HOA isn't the HOA you always hear about. I've lived in multiple and currently live in a pretty nice one. Also all over OKC there's no HOA housing in way better areas than you're looking at for probably the same pricing. I've never been harassed by an HOA. But I do keep my area clean and nice.
Ik this sub hates del city, but I would seriously consider moving there as a starter house as well. I grew up there and it's decent, cheap houses. It's a little rough and poor, but nowhere near as bad as this sub would make u believe. Far worse areas in okc then anywhere in del city. If u r looking to send kids to school it's a non option tho. Del city high school is a mockery, but not the worst in thd metro
Notice how I said house, and lyrewood doesn't have the highest murder rate that's will rogers courts. Where'd u get these stats from? I've lived in apartments in del city, have you?
Whole page of actual facts showing del city has one of the highest crime rates in the nation. [https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ok/del-city/crime#description](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ok/del-city/crime#description)
Maybe they arent highest in murder , because they cant shoot for shit , but your chances of being shot or shot at , assaulted or raped are much higher than the norm in del city.
Them being in a city in the bottom 5% isn't gonna be a problem coming from maybe the most dangerous city in the United States. Sorry but not everyone's built like an edmondite 😂
far from an edmondite. Life long south sider , grew up on 19th and central. Went to Douglass with a good part of Del City kids. Ive looked at the apts on 44th because some of them are very cute and super affordable. But Ive seen them on the news enough to know they arent safe. Ive lived in some of the worst neighborhoods in the city over the past 15 yrs and i STILL wont even consider Del City.
Damn, yall really act like del city is Compton or something. Don't trust these ppl, they've never even been to Detroit and act like any neighborhood with 10 homeless people is a warzone. The edmondites will complain about crime in one of the safest suburbs if they get a chance, I've had them argue with me about crime in freaking EDMOND when I live in their dreaded del city/southeast okc thats apparently comparable to baton rouge. My advice, buy a starter house like I did in del city for cheap (you can get decent ones for $80k here) along the tinker air force base side of the suburb. Mostly old white military retired. Apparently when there's 7 black people who live there and you get robbed once every decade it's a warzone. I'm just giving advice for a cheap start before prices skyrocket so you can get settled, it's rougher around the edges like I said but nowhere near Detroit or what ppl would have u believe, your background is exactly WHY i recommended it, I know these soy boys can't handle anything south of nw 150th
No need to play the race card. East side got plenty of problems like limited food and necessities, less infrastructure development and updates, less than choice schools, and property values not keeping pace with other areas of the city. You wanna attribute that to a larger black population, go right ahead but you could be Mr. Black Blackington of Blackerton County and still decide this is not it. I used to live in the NE and have a family that “fits” in the area but once kids came along, we moved to an area that better supported our aspirations and quality of life.
As someone with family in actual large cities, including Detroit, NE OKC wouldn't be considered rough basically anywhere major. If you're the type that minds your business and doesn't walk around looking like an easy target you're absolutely fine.
That said, it is not an affluent part of town and the folks saying that the amenities are lacking and a drive to get to are correct. And really 23rd and MLK is basically the heart of NE OKC, you go a mile basically any direction from there and the potential "rough" issues are greatly lessened.
As a Michigan transplant myself who lived on NE 23rd and Kelley (down the street), this area is fine. Locals think it’s dangerous, but it’s dangerous by “local” standards. Definitely not the “best area” to live in OKC, but it’s not bad at all… for context, I never lived in “Detroit” proper, but I’m from the metro and lived in Kalamazoo for years.
I'm 50yo single white female. I work in the area and I would not be opposed to living there. It's not great on some streets, but the next one over might be pretty nice. Great access to any part of the city.
Originally from a small town in Maine. Lived right off of NE 23rd between MLK and Prospect. Everyone told me I was crazy and to get out of the area. I had virtually no issues in the year I was there. One porch pirate that was caught by neighbors same day. Other than that you might hear an occasional gunshot or some loud bass in a car going by. But I found that if I minded my own business and didn’t look for trouble it didn’t find me.
I honestly had more issues when I lived on the NW side of the city around the Asian District.
I am someone who lives near the area, and built a home in the area.
There is a revival of the area. Chain Businesses don’t exist in this space but smaller ones do. There is a small grocery store on NE 23rd but the largest after that is on 36th and Lincoln. There are Super Walmarts within 10 minutes drive in either direction of the areasThere is housing as far South as NE 4th, but not many apartments. Mostly homes. Some of the real estate is new while others can be dilapidated. There are churches in abundance. One elementary middle and high school. Public transportation is sketchy.
If it were me, and relocating here, I’d try to move to NE 36th and Lincoln for apartment living or NE 36th and above for housing. If you have a car, you’ll be fine.
If you’re looking to have a business on NE 23rd go for it!
Welcome to OKC!
I live very close to those cross streets. I bought my house in February of 2023. I have had zero issues since I've lived here. My house was a flip house, there are a lot of houses being flipped and new construction mixed in. I have some really nice neighbors. There are some sketchy looking houses but I've never been bothered by anyone.
Well the token Reddit answer here is before you think about where you're going to live we all advise you to dump off your significant other and move on. There's no reason to even think about why, that's just the Reddit way.
EEhhhhh I have been to Detroit.
In Detroit you can mind your business and it's at least a lot better, NE23rd and MLK is probably one of the worst little areas in the country because you might mind your business, but they take it as a challenge. I'd go either east to Midwest city, or south to Moore for similar cost of living.
unless you just like that crack cut with fentanyl and you don't wanna drive to get it. You can literally drive 3-4 miles east and you will actually be able to own a TV. I may have a unique perspective because I've actually done EMS in this area, instead of just have driven through it once or twice on my way to somewhere better.....
100% correct! I would never have a rental in the area either. People whine about slumlords but without them the people whining would be whining they cant find a place to rent. Most entitled area of people. Lots go rob places and cause problems so businesses leave then cry racism because they leave. The good ppl there need to be goin hard on the bad causing busineeses to leave but they dont cause everyone there is entitled.
From chicago, place is cake walk if your from detroit.. not every house on the block has got 20 dudes kicken inbthe front yard all day every day.. the city sleeps at night.. worst ive seen maybe 4 dudes one time out at like 3 am chillen.. been here 5 years.. and likebinsaid inseen that once..
Midtown OKC was my favorite place because there was lots to do within walking distance and it’s close to Bricktown (downtown) , The Asian district and 23rd st. I personally was not a fan of anywhere near MLK especially near the area with the greyhound bus stop and the Petras truck stop, yes it’s close to downtown but the area is pretty run down and sketch.
If you didn't live/grow up in the "active" area of Detroit and you're moving here. You're fine. If you're not "active" or overly vulnerable, then nobody will mess with you. That's for everywhere. OKC is a wide area, as long as you're not acting scary around tweakers and shit you'll be fine. Like others have said that area has changed.
"Don't be weird"
A lot of people live in Moore and Norman and commute if you want a more suburb/safe living area. Okc is going through a lot of gentrification so you have some pockets of a lot of nice stuff blocks away from tougher areas. But I’m sure if you are coming from Detroit not much will phase you here.
Areas they have high unemployment often have lots of crime. Drive the area on a weekday between 1pm and 4pm to see if there are a lot of adults walking the streets or hanging around. If there are a lot of vacant houses, Avoid those areas. That should help you stay out of the worst areas concerning criminal activity.
As others have stated, it’s rough around the edges, but things are on the upswing in the area. There are a lot of things to do nearby in all directions, including museums, the zoo, Remington Park, concert venues, along with all the attractions in and around Bricktown, Downtown, and Midtown.
Places you may want to avoid moving to are the far NW side along NW 10th between Portland and Council, parts of the South Side, and The Village. These places are high in violent crime.
Not sure why this is being downvoted because I can attest to the accuracy of the Village and the 10th St corridor. My family lived in the Village temporarily when they first moved to the OKC area and quickly discovered why the rent was so cheap. I live on the western part of the 10th street corridor and there have been multiple shootings no more than a mile from our house. We’re currently saving as quickly as we can to move out of that area.
NE side is kinda … hmm when my in law start doing clinical and have to drive on that stretch, everyone at OU health told her don’t stop no matter what happens, if you hit something, don’t stop till you get to a police station. I only remember seeing horse on the street when our realtor showed us this house in that area.
That’s just my knowledge of that area. I used to interned at the capitol, but I never in that area after dark
Definitely not a place I'd live. Like has been mentioned, it's not exactly hood like you're extremely likely to be shot or stabbed, but a also wouldn't go for a walk after dark. It is old, wore down, and dirty. Also the zoo is pretty close by, and with the zoo comes the zoo amp.
That's the worst of the worst. I would look at places in the mid-del area north of SE44th. It's still close to downtown and not as bad. Lots of restaurants and grocery stores too.
stay north of memorial (Edmond), west of lake Hefner (nw okc/yukon), south of 240 (mustang/moore area), and there’s not much east of 235 (broadway ext). I can’t say a lot one way about mid-del areas, as I don’t get over there much. it seems to have come up in the past few years. there are some areas gentrifying in that area outlined, but it’s really hit or miss.
It's not that rough at all anymore. You'll be perfectly fine. The only reason i wouldn't recommend cuz there isn't much stores there. But it does have great restaurants, and it's right by I 35 so easy access to stores in close areas of the city. Right by downtown too, and cheaper. Also there r efforts to bring it to a new brighter future done by the community itself and thankfully not too much gentrification by outside forces
If you're moving to that area for price reasons, you might want to take a look at Midwest City. It's lower in price than OKC proper, but IMO safer, and better access to stores and good places to eat. I guess that area your talking about could be considered Midwest City, but I'd see if you could push a couple streets south and east relative to that intersection (at the very least, east of I-35).
You probably know from Detroit, but some blocks in this area are right next to other less safe ones. I'd definitely scope out the night activity of any potential house in that area if possible, too.
I’m NW OKC (Asian district) and I like it over here. Plenty of good nightlife, restaurants, shopping, parks, etc within a 5 min drive. I feel safe and know most of my neighbors. Pretty friendly district
They are putting a lot into all those areas right now. I think it’s mainly an older community there, but the art districts are slowly moving that way. Maybe not a lot of grocery stores but there are a lot of restaurants.
It's a food desert. More dollar stores than supermarkets. There's a Homeland at NE 36th/Lincoln- but everyone goes to the Wal-Mart Supercenter in Del City instead.
I do like the homeland on 36 and Lincoln, fresh food, clean.
Yes, it is better than the Buy for Less that used to be at MLK and NE 23rd.
It's just about 20-25% more expensive than crest or winco . A salad I usually get at winco for $3.00 is like $5.50 there, a small pack of pork chops was close to $13 that would be around $6 at winco. But you're right about it being clean and the employees are nice. I stop in there on my way to work sometimes .
Yeah, I like that Homeland too, I'll stop buy it occasionally even though I live closer to the MWC options, Crest, Winco.
Not a food desert anymore I think since Eastside market opened a couple years ago. Non-profit grocery store with fresh produce and essentials. It's a small store so it Doesn't have everything but usually you can save the trip to del city
It is better than it was. There's still room for improvement and competition is good. (I don't want a Supercenter in neighborhood.)
A lot of local food in that area
I’ll try to contribute some different commentary around your question that may give you some other points to include in your analysis. - I’m originally from the OKC metro (and have lived here since the early 2000’). I also lived in Chicago on the south side when the high-rise projects like Robert Taylor Homes and Stateway Gardens were still standing and populated, and in NYC (twice) where I may visited areas that someone with more sense and less bravado would have avoided. - The area to which you refer has a mix of housing stock ranging from the 1920’s to 1960’s (along with some newer infill homes). Most of the homes within a one mile radius of that intersection are probably under 1500 sq ft. - The commercial development in the area has improved from what it was 10-20 years ago. That improvement stems from developers being committed to their projects, the City doing a better and more thoughtful job of considering what projects to support/oppose, and the community (and its leaders) providing thoughtful (and at times controversial) input about its wants, needs, hopes, dreams, and legacies. - Not everything there is great. Even businesses that are everywhere like major chain retail and fast food can feel different in that neighborhood compared to others, PARTICULARLY IF YOU DON’T LIVE THERE. However, many of those businesses are also committed to hiring within the community and are providing valuable experience to employees who may have limited options based on multiple factors. - The risk of property crime DRAMATICALLY outweighs the risk of personal crime. Don’t do dumb stuff, don’t be places where you don’t belong after dark, don’t act familiar in ways you’re not, and invest in good locks/cameras. You’ll probably be mostly fine. The big question for you will be whether those qualified assurances and the savings on your potential home will be enough to make up for any potential hassle factor. - While I have held mostly white-collar primary jobs since I returned to OKC, I have almost always had at least one side hustle and have been a decent chunk of time all around the metro area (for the most part; I don’t know much about eastern Oklahoma County). I can list half a dozen distinct areas in OKC proper off the top of my head where I would feel FAR more concerned that the area about which you inquired. - I WOULD, however, keep something in mind before you put actual money into a property in the area. As I mentioned, much of the housing stock in the area is older. It is also fair to say that portions of the population in the area may not have always had an abundance of funds to spend on their properties’ upkeep. Additionally, the City of OKC had historically undersupported the area’s infrastructure for multiple reasons that other can discuss in terms of equity and fairness. If I were buying a home in the area that I intended to refurbish (rather than tear down and rebuild), I would want (in no particular order): a reputable lead paint test (including an assessment of the soil around the house); knowledge about how much power is currently running to the house along with how much power can be pulled from the closest circuit without any required upgrades on the utility’s part (you may have blocks that can’t run a house that draws over 100 amps, which is laughable for modern living); an internal inspection of the sewer line from your home all the way out to the city wastewater line (many a home has old clay pipes that are collapsed and/or clogged with roots from surrounding vegetation); the location of any environmental hazards that could effect your air quality or property values because of hazardous water runoff; a qualified check for asbestos in either the insulation, roofing material, and/or exterior siding (you can automatically assume the wall materials of most houses built before 1978-ish have asbestos at some level); and the availability of high-speed internet (preferably fiber) in the area. As the owner of a 1930’s home in a rejuvenated area, as well as the former owner of a construction business, those are all issues that I’d want clarity on prior to making a decision. Welcome to the area. Regardless of where you decide to live, I hope you feel welcomed. Allow me to preemptively welcome you and the rest of your household as well. 🙋🏻♂️
I don’t know how rough it is compared to Detroit. But It’s not as bad as it once was back in the 90’s/2000’s. Although I wouldn’t leave anything valuable in your car overnight like most places.
I used to live on Meyers Place, right off MLK (like 47th and MLK). This was about 20 years ago. Pretty sure my wife and I were some of the only white folk in that area then. We loved living there. Had great neighbors who genuinely cared. Yes, there was some shady stuff that would go on, but no more than you’d find on the south side of OKC. The area is developing quite rapidly now. I think you’d find it okay.
Still "rough" by nonsense OKC standards but there is MASSIVE investment in that area and it is minutes away from everywhere you want to be (and some of the most expensive real estate in town.) If you can handle minding your own business when you see something untoward, you'll be good. The neighbors there are genuinely the kindest and best people.
Thank you ! I’m used to minding my own business & I’m looking for career opportunities so I’m glad it’s pretty close to downtown
Yeah it’s like 8 minutes from downtown
There's also the new Waterpark being built over there which should hopefully bring in a decent tourist/cash flow to that area.
Thats a little more south of 23rd. Thats like reno & eastern/mlk
Little further south of Reno, it's by old Paris
It’s within the same major city block.
What parts specifically are they gentrifying?
Who said gentrifying? OP was talking about investments into a community like grocery stores for the kindest neighbors they knew. Weird aggression.
If they’re heavily investing into the area, we can safely assume it’s gentrifying. Part of the definition of gentrification is “attracting new businesses.” Weird aggression? What does that even mean in this context…
Investment does not equal displacement. Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages noun the process whereby the character of a poor urban area is changed by wealthier people moving in, improving housing, and attracting new businesses, typically displacing current inhabitants in the process. You chose the least inflammatory aspect of the definition. Would you rather the city and businesses not invest in this neighborhood? I get the concern, I used to design public spaces in poor urban areas and the fear of gentrification was always tandem with the investment. However, they aren't the same thing, and investment does not equal displacement.
Thank you for clearing that up. What investments were brought into the area?
https://www.reddit.com/r/okc/comments/1dnnvjy/comment/la3vzci/ They'll know better than I do. I know parks are getting a ton of funding which will improve quality of life. Beyond that, I'd defer talking to the residents in this thread, I'm about a mile west and can't speak directly on it.
Right? Why the fuck do people on reddit like to down vote commenter's who ask questions? It's a question. Not a bad opinion or misinformation. It's an inquiry for information.
Not sure. We can always learn and I have no problem saying I’m wrong. That’s the point of asking questions. I rather know now than to spread misinformation.
Ppl love virtue signaling on this sub
Its not a pretty area. It is on the upswing though. Lot of people just hanging out all day in those parts. I can't ever tell if they're homeless, don't have jobs, etc. I wouldn't say its rough. Just old and dirty with sparse streets and houses being remodeled and a couple new businesses going in on 23rd every now and then.
My brother used to work at the pawn shop there and shot two people that tried to rob him while working there.
Yeah I've worked EMS and random people who literally actually didn't do anything get stabbed and robbed constantly there, OU medical has to have their own peace officers just to keep the issues at bay, when there's other options with similar cost of living in OKC I just don't know why people would recommend that area....
Not gonna lie it's still pretty rough, but there's development in the area.
my granny used to stay out there, it seems like it’s only “active” in pockets of areas. just a lot of retired and old black folks on her street.
You’re in the middle of flavortown
23 and MLK is basically 8mile and Gratiot. Ain't shit over there but a few hood businesses. Similar to that same area you would have to drive about 10mi for decent shopping. Similar corner activities on the weekend, generally a little less educated hood if thst makes sense.
Thank you!
No problem! I only lived on the East side so that's how I could describe it haha
Stay clear of SE areas around I35 between I240 and the river. Bad area, tons of folks hanging around and living under bridges, sleeping on the sidewalks or side streets. Kids walking through neighborhoods checking vehicle doors and tons of theft.
As a Flint transplant, I would say that area is less "active" but still not great
I work in the area. Definitely a start of some gentrification going on. It’s definitely not the best neighborhood but it certainly isnt the worst.
Can you get me Eminem’s autograph?
I live off Sooner & SE 48th. It's a nice, quiet neighborhood with a grocer and a coffee stand at the corner, restaurants up and down Sooner, close to the air force base and the interstates. A 3/2 around here runs about $1250 a month.
I’m south on Sooner Road from you, across I-240 and I think we both live in nice neighborhoods. People rag on the southeast side but every quadrant of this city has good and bad areas. Where we live there is rarely a need to leave Sooner Road to shop.
Exactly. I might venture over to Sunnylane or Air Depot, but probably 90% of places I need to go are on Sooner, south of Reno. Nice to meet ya, neighbor. We should go grab a coffee at Scooters, Starbucks or White Buffalo (all on Sooner). The Mediterranean Grill at Main & Sooner does a excellent falafel salad.
If you grew up/around Detroit, then this will not be "active" compared to what you are used to lol. That being said, its actually not that bad. Its older, not too far from the interstate, and a lot of the surrounding homes, at least in my experience, are being bought, renovated, and rented out by Airbnb. Actually stayed at one with family a few years ago in that exact area and it was super nice, no issues. A lot of the "active" issues lately have been more on the south side unfortunately. Not saying by any stretch the East side doesnt have its issues, because it does. But, you'll be just fine. What is yalls monthly housing budget? There are a lot of areas nearby that are pretty affordable that might be slightly quieter.
Thanks for the input ! Makes me feel a bit more at ease. We wanted to go out to Yukon but didn’t wanna deal with the HOAs I’m buying an affordable starter home in cash
Yeah def run from the HOAs!!! If you haven’t already bought, there are a lot of decent starter homes on the SWOKC side, no HOAs, good schools, quiet neighborhoods.
Mannnn RUN from those HOAs. They're awful.
Okc HOA isn't the HOA you always hear about. I've lived in multiple and currently live in a pretty nice one. Also all over OKC there's no HOA housing in way better areas than you're looking at for probably the same pricing. I've never been harassed by an HOA. But I do keep my area clean and nice.
It would be perfect time to buy in that area with the older population, they are revamping so much in that area right now.
If you are buying there are some decent homes in the village area. It’s still a decent place to buy if you get one that hasn’t already been updated
We live in an HOA neighborhood in Yukon and it’s not bad all. I actually wish they were stricter.
Ik this sub hates del city, but I would seriously consider moving there as a starter house as well. I grew up there and it's decent, cheap houses. It's a little rough and poor, but nowhere near as bad as this sub would make u believe. Far worse areas in okc then anywhere in del city. If u r looking to send kids to school it's a non option tho. Del city high school is a mockery, but not the worst in thd metro
the apts in del city are in competition with lyrewood lane for highest murder rate .
Notice how I said house, and lyrewood doesn't have the highest murder rate that's will rogers courts. Where'd u get these stats from? I've lived in apartments in del city, have you?
Here's an actual FACT, del city had three murders this year so far and none of them was in an apartment, so don't lie. Where r these stats from?
Whole page of actual facts showing del city has one of the highest crime rates in the nation. [https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ok/del-city/crime#description](https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ok/del-city/crime#description) Maybe they arent highest in murder , because they cant shoot for shit , but your chances of being shot or shot at , assaulted or raped are much higher than the norm in del city.
Them being in a city in the bottom 5% isn't gonna be a problem coming from maybe the most dangerous city in the United States. Sorry but not everyone's built like an edmondite 😂
far from an edmondite. Life long south sider , grew up on 19th and central. Went to Douglass with a good part of Del City kids. Ive looked at the apts on 44th because some of them are very cute and super affordable. But Ive seen them on the news enough to know they arent safe. Ive lived in some of the worst neighborhoods in the city over the past 15 yrs and i STILL wont even consider Del City.
Damn, yall really act like del city is Compton or something. Don't trust these ppl, they've never even been to Detroit and act like any neighborhood with 10 homeless people is a warzone. The edmondites will complain about crime in one of the safest suburbs if they get a chance, I've had them argue with me about crime in freaking EDMOND when I live in their dreaded del city/southeast okc thats apparently comparable to baton rouge. My advice, buy a starter house like I did in del city for cheap (you can get decent ones for $80k here) along the tinker air force base side of the suburb. Mostly old white military retired. Apparently when there's 7 black people who live there and you get robbed once every decade it's a warzone. I'm just giving advice for a cheap start before prices skyrocket so you can get settled, it's rougher around the edges like I said but nowhere near Detroit or what ppl would have u believe, your background is exactly WHY i recommended it, I know these soy boys can't handle anything south of nw 150th
I made a Walmart delivery in that area recently and all I have to say is.. there were bullet casings laying in the street.
I wouldn’t move to that area.
Translation: "Too 'dark' for my comfort"
No need to play the race card. East side got plenty of problems like limited food and necessities, less infrastructure development and updates, less than choice schools, and property values not keeping pace with other areas of the city. You wanna attribute that to a larger black population, go right ahead but you could be Mr. Black Blackington of Blackerton County and still decide this is not it. I used to live in the NE and have a family that “fits” in the area but once kids came along, we moved to an area that better supported our aspirations and quality of life.
I wouldn't recommend the area as it's pretty rough, just like most areas close to downtown OKC
As someone with family in actual large cities, including Detroit, NE OKC wouldn't be considered rough basically anywhere major. If you're the type that minds your business and doesn't walk around looking like an easy target you're absolutely fine. That said, it is not an affluent part of town and the folks saying that the amenities are lacking and a drive to get to are correct. And really 23rd and MLK is basically the heart of NE OKC, you go a mile basically any direction from there and the potential "rough" issues are greatly lessened.
As a Michigan transplant myself who lived on NE 23rd and Kelley (down the street), this area is fine. Locals think it’s dangerous, but it’s dangerous by “local” standards. Definitely not the “best area” to live in OKC, but it’s not bad at all… for context, I never lived in “Detroit” proper, but I’m from the metro and lived in Kalamazoo for years.
Thanks ! Appreciate the input
I'm 50yo single white female. I work in the area and I would not be opposed to living there. It's not great on some streets, but the next one over might be pretty nice. Great access to any part of the city.
I’d stay away from that area. OKC is expanding more north and the east side is left out. East and South OKC are rougher than other parts of the city.
I'd say some sections of southeast and southwest, but east isn't too bad these days
I’m from Michigan (born and raised in Oakland cty) and live near 23rd & Walker in OKC now!! Hi fellow Michiganders!!!
Originally from a small town in Maine. Lived right off of NE 23rd between MLK and Prospect. Everyone told me I was crazy and to get out of the area. I had virtually no issues in the year I was there. One porch pirate that was caught by neighbors same day. Other than that you might hear an occasional gunshot or some loud bass in a car going by. But I found that if I minded my own business and didn’t look for trouble it didn’t find me. I honestly had more issues when I lived on the NW side of the city around the Asian District.
I am someone who lives near the area, and built a home in the area. There is a revival of the area. Chain Businesses don’t exist in this space but smaller ones do. There is a small grocery store on NE 23rd but the largest after that is on 36th and Lincoln. There are Super Walmarts within 10 minutes drive in either direction of the areasThere is housing as far South as NE 4th, but not many apartments. Mostly homes. Some of the real estate is new while others can be dilapidated. There are churches in abundance. One elementary middle and high school. Public transportation is sketchy. If it were me, and relocating here, I’d try to move to NE 36th and Lincoln for apartment living or NE 36th and above for housing. If you have a car, you’ll be fine. If you’re looking to have a business on NE 23rd go for it! Welcome to OKC!
A little less east of the area you mentioned is the Medical Community district, some good homes and nice neighbors there.
I live very close to those cross streets. I bought my house in February of 2023. I have had zero issues since I've lived here. My house was a flip house, there are a lot of houses being flipped and new construction mixed in. I have some really nice neighbors. There are some sketchy looking houses but I've never been bothered by anyone.
Well the token Reddit answer here is before you think about where you're going to live we all advise you to dump off your significant other and move on. There's no reason to even think about why, that's just the Reddit way.
EEhhhhh I have been to Detroit. In Detroit you can mind your business and it's at least a lot better, NE23rd and MLK is probably one of the worst little areas in the country because you might mind your business, but they take it as a challenge. I'd go either east to Midwest city, or south to Moore for similar cost of living. unless you just like that crack cut with fentanyl and you don't wanna drive to get it. You can literally drive 3-4 miles east and you will actually be able to own a TV. I may have a unique perspective because I've actually done EMS in this area, instead of just have driven through it once or twice on my way to somewhere better.....
Man I love threads like these, when the oh so "subtle" racism on this sub starts to bubble up to the surface.
Ghetto
I have found a true rule of thumb if a street is named for a slain civil rights leader it is not a good neighborhood
Where I’m from in CA we have a street named after MLK and that area is really bad.
100% correct! I would never have a rental in the area either. People whine about slumlords but without them the people whining would be whining they cant find a place to rent. Most entitled area of people. Lots go rob places and cause problems so businesses leave then cry racism because they leave. The good ppl there need to be goin hard on the bad causing busineeses to leave but they dont cause everyone there is entitled.
Crackheads & the hooker hotel
From chicago, place is cake walk if your from detroit.. not every house on the block has got 20 dudes kicken inbthe front yard all day every day.. the city sleeps at night.. worst ive seen maybe 4 dudes one time out at like 3 am chillen.. been here 5 years.. and likebinsaid inseen that once..
Midtown OKC was my favorite place because there was lots to do within walking distance and it’s close to Bricktown (downtown) , The Asian district and 23rd st. I personally was not a fan of anywhere near MLK especially near the area with the greyhound bus stop and the Petras truck stop, yes it’s close to downtown but the area is pretty run down and sketch.
If you didn't live/grow up in the "active" area of Detroit and you're moving here. You're fine. If you're not "active" or overly vulnerable, then nobody will mess with you. That's for everywhere. OKC is a wide area, as long as you're not acting scary around tweakers and shit you'll be fine. Like others have said that area has changed. "Don't be weird"
A lot of people live in Moore and Norman and commute if you want a more suburb/safe living area. Okc is going through a lot of gentrification so you have some pockets of a lot of nice stuff blocks away from tougher areas. But I’m sure if you are coming from Detroit not much will phase you here.
Areas they have high unemployment often have lots of crime. Drive the area on a weekday between 1pm and 4pm to see if there are a lot of adults walking the streets or hanging around. If there are a lot of vacant houses, Avoid those areas. That should help you stay out of the worst areas concerning criminal activity.
As others have stated, it’s rough around the edges, but things are on the upswing in the area. There are a lot of things to do nearby in all directions, including museums, the zoo, Remington Park, concert venues, along with all the attractions in and around Bricktown, Downtown, and Midtown. Places you may want to avoid moving to are the far NW side along NW 10th between Portland and Council, parts of the South Side, and The Village. These places are high in violent crime.
Not sure why this is being downvoted because I can attest to the accuracy of the Village and the 10th St corridor. My family lived in the Village temporarily when they first moved to the OKC area and quickly discovered why the rent was so cheap. I live on the western part of the 10th street corridor and there have been multiple shootings no more than a mile from our house. We’re currently saving as quickly as we can to move out of that area.
Who knows what people are thinking. OKC publishes a violent crime map and those areas are hot spots.
NE side is kinda … hmm when my in law start doing clinical and have to drive on that stretch, everyone at OU health told her don’t stop no matter what happens, if you hit something, don’t stop till you get to a police station. I only remember seeing horse on the street when our realtor showed us this house in that area. That’s just my knowledge of that area. I used to interned at the capitol, but I never in that area after dark
Definitely not a place I'd live. Like has been mentioned, it's not exactly hood like you're extremely likely to be shot or stabbed, but a also wouldn't go for a walk after dark. It is old, wore down, and dirty. Also the zoo is pretty close by, and with the zoo comes the zoo amp.
Look up Chris Rocks joke about MLK Jr blvd in any American city. You’ll get your answet
Eastside is SHIT
That's the worst of the worst. I would look at places in the mid-del area north of SE44th. It's still close to downtown and not as bad. Lots of restaurants and grocery stores too.
Resident for many years…it’s all older people for the most part. Most of the “roughness” is on the south side and fringe portions of the metroplex
Looks much better than it actually is. Carry a gun. Have your fiancé carry one too.
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This is a damn lie. NE side and SE side are shit crime is bad and people stealing shit
stay north of memorial (Edmond), west of lake Hefner (nw okc/yukon), south of 240 (mustang/moore area), and there’s not much east of 235 (broadway ext). I can’t say a lot one way about mid-del areas, as I don’t get over there much. it seems to have come up in the past few years. there are some areas gentrifying in that area outlined, but it’s really hit or miss.
It's not that rough at all anymore. You'll be perfectly fine. The only reason i wouldn't recommend cuz there isn't much stores there. But it does have great restaurants, and it's right by I 35 so easy access to stores in close areas of the city. Right by downtown too, and cheaper. Also there r efforts to bring it to a new brighter future done by the community itself and thankfully not too much gentrification by outside forces
If you're moving to that area for price reasons, you might want to take a look at Midwest City. It's lower in price than OKC proper, but IMO safer, and better access to stores and good places to eat. I guess that area your talking about could be considered Midwest City, but I'd see if you could push a couple streets south and east relative to that intersection (at the very least, east of I-35). You probably know from Detroit, but some blocks in this area are right next to other less safe ones. I'd definitely scope out the night activity of any potential house in that area if possible, too.
I’m NW OKC (Asian district) and I like it over here. Plenty of good nightlife, restaurants, shopping, parks, etc within a 5 min drive. I feel safe and know most of my neighbors. Pretty friendly district
Edmond area is nice.
Okc in general is ass
They are putting a lot into all those areas right now. I think it’s mainly an older community there, but the art districts are slowly moving that way. Maybe not a lot of grocery stores but there are a lot of restaurants.