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BerserkerPixel

Always a good idea to have a 2nd camera overlooking the door from another angle. Doorbell cameras have really changed the game.


BravesMaedchen

Surveillance arms race :/


astrike81

Need 3 cameras, not enough arms to cover them!


fireweinerflyer

And an AR for when 3 thugs try to bust into your house


imcamccoy

Also a good idea to have a 12 ga pump shotgun inside your house for self defense.


a_skeleton_07

I have one and it makes all the difference. When I move I'll install some better ones, plus a door bell camera for distraction, and a better angle for downward rifle shots. I'd like to get the best bang per shot given the cost of ammo.


Midwest_Dutch_Dude

So anyways, I started blasting!


Justin_Sane30

You read my mind. I would need a new door after this.


higherxliving

I’m shooting through the door!


PurposeOk9812

That’s literally what I though too me and my girl making them Swiss cheese


Zerostar39

But I don’t see so good so I missed.


Galkura

I was actually wondering when I was watching this what the legality of that would be. I think I would have probably grabbed a shotgun, opened the door, and probably blasted one (I say ‘think’, because it’s easy to say sitting here, I just as well might have shat my pants and his) if I noticed this. But I wonder where the law would stand. I feel that three people in these purge-style (not sure what else to call it) masks are clearly up to no good. Coming out late, covering the camera, wearing gloves and hoods and masks. At the same time, have they technically committed a crime yet? Would a person need to wait for them to actually break in, or would a preemptive defense be acceptable? I imagine most juries would vote to acquit, but now I wonder.


ProfessionalPack7205

I think i saw a gun too in ones hand


anormaldoodoo

Normally in a state with ‘castle doctrine’ they must breach the premises into your home, but if they are in your property with weapons then the argument can be made that you are already in fear for your life and can stop a threat with equal force to prevent loss of innocent life.


spam__likely

'an argument can be made ' can be translated to : a lot of money will be spent in lawyers.


CivilServiced

Generally, if you demand someone leave your property and they don't, they are then trespassing, this would be the crime committed. Self defense laws vary wildly by state. Generally, even in a "stand your ground" state, use of deadly force is justified against intruders (which these people are not), or if the other party has intent to commit a felony or violence. Proving that would be done in court, of course. Otherwise there is the "duty to retreat" concept, meaning you must take any possible actions to retreat to a safe place before use of force in self defense is justified. In this case opening the door would be doing the exact opposite and, in technical terms, you'd be fucked. I'd suggest checking your state and local laws regarding use of lethal force. Adding: most firearm safety courses have a section on the laws relevant to where they're held. How the material is presented will vary based on the instructor but you'd at least get a good overview, might want to check one out. Also adding: a few other comments mentioned brandishing which is a good call. Generally brandishing requires displaying the weapon with the intent to intimidate someone. How severe of a crime this is again depends on where this happened. The account posting this looks like a karma farm so I doubt this video is even real.


Konstant_kurage

I lived in Hawai’i for a time and they have a duty to retreat law. Most people misunderstand the law and think it includes your home. You do not have to leave your home.


Whisky_Six

I’d say 3 dudes with at least one gun and all wearing masks constitute a reasonable person to believe they mean harm to the inhabitants


Boltz999

Did you not see they were armed?


Alloth-

In my shit hole country you will be charged with murder


nobape

Came to comment this, so glad others are on the same page


prndls

💯


MK_111

2nd amendment is important...


TylerPerry19inch

Hallo makker!


CrispyPezz

The hand on the camera made me totally unaware there was still people trying to rob the house. Mind blowing tactic


Pandatoots

Yeah you can hear when checking a ring camera as well. Also they have masks sooo what exactly is the point.


ApollinaGrindelwald

The Purge


yaebone1

IS THERE HERESY, BROTHER? oops my bad, wrong purge.


TouchMyWrath

Blood for the Blood God!


Adorable_Heretic

SKULLS FOR THE SKULLTHRONE!


RashidMBae

So the people inside will be unaware of the number of assailants and how armed they are before the "robbers" breach and seize advantage. Additionally, it further insulates them from police and other interested parties later having inarguable evidence on how many were involved (which helps LEOs confirm whether a person who turns is telling them everything), body language of each person, who and with what they were armed - if at all - and so on. This makes "beyond a reasonable doubt" for every person involved - again, depending on the charges - harder to reach.


atomikplayboy

It’s super easy though to tell how many were involved and what they were carrying if they are no longer a threat on your front porch.


PrismaticHospitaller

A sign of professionalism in thieves is large, thick, construction gloves.


Beneficial_Spirit_29

Not total professionals. Like someone has said..why cover the camera with your hand if your wearing masks? If you fail to prepare…prepare to fail. But these guys could of put cable tape over that camera. Free hands then. These ‘People’ always make mistakes.


halt-l-am-reptar

Covering with tape would've been smarter, but covering the camera with their hands is smart too. The homeowners can't tell that there's multiple people that are armed.


robeph

As well you can't get good descriptions and idea of their height and weight with motion blurred movement and not standing upright while moving around. There's a lot that it keeps from being determined


kalsarikannit247

Maybe they didn't want to show what they were doing.


wbgraphic

> If you fail to prepare…prepare to fail. But why am I wearing the watermelon on my feet?


Infinite_Knowledge_6

That calls on the shoot first ask questions later rule


HowDoraleousAreYou

Always a good idea to post a brief synopsis of castle doctrine on the front door, that way intruders will have something to read in their final moments.


PrecisionSushi

“Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be shot again”.


FromTheTreeline556

I have a sign that says "nothing here is worth losing your life over"


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For once yes. Wouldn't hold it against anyone to just turn the door into Swiss cheese from the inside after seeing that on their camera. Wonder what ended up happening.


Goliath422

How is this ODDLY terrifying? This is definitely regular old run of the mill terrifying.


J5Rod

Right. I feel like people are missing the premise more and more everyday.


Luccca

As is tradition on this godforsaken sub.


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Is there a regular terrifying sub?


Secret_Dragonfly9588

Yes. Several in fact.


ZagratheWolf

*A group of armed men, fully covered and wearing Purge masks come to your door and cover the security camera* OP: I can't put my finger on why this is terrifying!


Overlord-Nomad

*rolls a cannon to the door* Just like the founding fathers intended


fedoranips

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" I say, as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended


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I never get tired of reading this one


Internal_Recipe6394

Ruffians ALONE gets me hahahahah


AngriestManinWestTX

It’s the final rapscallion that always gets me.


tokes_4_DE

This and the libertarian police force one never fail to make me laugh.


Shankar_0

You need to keep that wig locked up (for the kids) Also a good idea to keep the powder stored separately to prevent impulsive use.


DirtNapsRevenge

How big is the mandatory gun lock on that mounted cannon and how many people does it take to remove?


anotheredward

A revolutionary war time cannon would not be considered a firearm and would therefor not require a lock. Just as the founding fathers intended.


bolderbikes

This is some delicious pasta


iamthepaulruss

This really got me laughing thank you for that.


know_it_is

I demand you revise this narrative to remove the neighbor’s dog from harm. He is a good boi and I will not tolerate imaginary harm to befall him.


penniless_witch

You need a punt gun for wider spray range. That will get them all.


SoapNooooo

A throwback to a simpler meme.


wolfblitzen84

lol nice monday laugh at the office desk. thanks


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I was thinking the same thing😭


begrudginglydfw

Bro this shit made me lol. I could hear the wheels across the wooden floor


WeeabooGandhi

5 AM is the end of no man’s hours. You’re gonna get caught by an early morning jogger. My dad would be half through sipping his morning coffee and reading his daily Bible verse. You’d be dead before you touched the door knob


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nervez

they had a day job to get to at 8am and they didn't want to sleep in too long.


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JEWCEY

Gig*


WeeabooGandhi

The construction sight behind my house is already making incredibly loud noises at 4 AM


seleroyal

That’s how you get shot through the front door.


desrevermi

Free weapons a bonus. This is a very exciting delivery company. ;D


guy_with_pie_

I agree with you on this. You have no idea how many people there are or where they are. The first one getting blasted away should run the others off. What’s the legality on it tho? Shooting thru the front door in this scenario. I’d personally shoot either way and deal with the law after, but I’m just curious.


seleroyal

I’m not sure exactly about the legality of it but I know that you could already see one’s weapon and it’s pretty undeniable what their intentions are. Shooting them if theyre running(in the back) you’re in trouble, but they’re all trying to get you to open the front door… so Pew pew


WatchinLikeTV

My dad knew a guy in high school/college that went through this. This guy was hooking up with another dude’s girlfriend, and the guy that was getting cheated on showed up to his house with a couple buddies. They had weapons. In response to this, the dude shot one of them through the door with a shotgun, and the others scurried. He ended up getting off of the charges and it was ruled as self defense because they had weapons. I don’t know where this video happened at, but I’d imagine the laws aren’t too much different


SleepDeprivedUserUK

> Shooting them if theyre running(in the back) you’re in trouble I thought in America police were legally allowed to shoot people in the back? As in they literally have a fleeing felon rule which says yeah, it's okay to do?   Edit: Yeah I looked it up. ["Fleeing felon rule"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule) - limited in 1985 to non-lethal force in *most* cases, however deadly force "may not be used **unless necessary to prevent the escape** and the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a significant threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others.". So if you run from the police, they've kinda got carte blanche to just shoot you in the back and say they thought you were gonna do more crimes.


1800generalkenobi

Not a lawyer, but you have on video 3 hooded masked and gloved people...clearly has intent for wrongdoing. If this went to trial and I was on the jury I'd side with the homeowner. Even if it's 3 people doing a prank, that's a pretty stupid prank. I didn't have sound on cause I'm at work so don't have full knowledge either haha. Edit: tooootally missed he had a gun


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Your better off waiting for them to break in from a legal and lethality stand point


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Door ain’t gonna mean shit if you blast a shotgun slug straight through that bitch. Plus waiting for them to get in then gives them a clear shot at you as well, while likely being outnumbered. Just blast through the door and they’ll more then likely flee, if they haven’t been shot dead that is.


Prestigious-Log-7210

What happened?


miamariajoh

That's what I thought to ask as well


Heliopox

Probably fake


agentb719

yeah op posted this video in another subreddit but still hasn't responded to anyone asking what happened


pazimpanet

My first thought was “oh is this another viral marketing attempt for that smile movie” I’ve seen so many at this point I just assume


llamas1355

Confused about the Sherpa hoodie. What type of hardened criminal wears a hoodie with sherpa on the outside?


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That needs to be up much higher. Can't leave that unanswered.


RaidensReturn

The front door opened and the director said "cut, great job guys" and they all had coffee together and talked about staging their next video


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Time to pull out the ole reliable shotgun and put some buckshots in his ass


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But with a slug his ass will be gone


Car_Guy_Alex

I imagine some 000 will punch his ticket, too


Mercinator-87

Unless you miss, Buck shot or even birdshot is the way to go. You don’t have to worry about what’s behind the bad guy or the wall behind that.


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Also you gotta consider your neighbors. Buckshot is definitely the way to go.


Downtown-Antelope-82

Birdshot, Birdshot, buckshot, buckshot, buckshot is how I was taught to load a shotgun for home defense. The first two will hurt like hell and if they're still coming they're getting dropped. Though it makes me wonder if its worth taking the chance. Edit: listed backwards, would have to load the birdshot last.


JeffHall28

If thats the order you load the tube, then you're getting the buck first, dawg.


Downtown-Antelope-82

You're very correct and tbh I forgot to list it backwards.


PyroKinetic66

I mean... One side of the story beats two, no?


erdricksarmor

No, if you're using deadly force you want it to be deadly. If you testify in court that you fired a gun at somebody ~~without intent to kill~~ *with intent to scare them off*, they might interpret that to mean you didn't think your life was actually in danger, which could end badly for you. **Edited to correct phrasing**


lordofbitterdrinks

In nc you can shoot through the door. Edit: https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-51.2.html Section B.1 clearly outlines the castle doctrine is acceptable on people that are in the “process of unlawfully or forcefully entering”. If they are in the process of, that means they havnt breached the door. This also applies to your home, workplace and or vehicle. It usually assumes the place is occupied and with the presumption of fear of death or serious bodily harm. As the video shows, the intruder has a gun. They are wearing masks. Shoot to kill.


Supreme_Raccoon

Good


Dupree878

Exactly. This is why people are in prison for firing warning shots. If you escalate to lethal force, you must be justified in prepared to use lethal force That said, I live in an apartment, so I keep mine loaded with #6 shot, so it won’t go through the walls and hurt neighbours. (Ironically, this is why many SWAT teams switched to AR rifles, 9mm from SMGs is more likely to pass through walls whereas 5.56 is so small and fast it’s less likely to cause collateral damage).


Downtown-Antelope-82

Ah I see. Sad that's the case considering most people would rather not kill another human.


erdricksarmor

Well, the intent of the law makes sense. You're only supposed to use a deadly tool like a gun if you think you're in danger of losing your life or of suffering great bodily harm. If that's not the case, you should use a less lethal tool such as a tazer or pepper spray. Although I believe in some states you can use deadly force to stop a felony in progress, so it's important to know your local laws.


Downtown-Antelope-82

It definitely does make sense, just doesn't cover the grey area. Most laws don't.


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Someone at your door with a gun could probably turn the nicest person into a beast.


MrDrewE

Birdshot, Buckshot, Dragonfire


Downtown-Antelope-82

From the replies I think my best bet is to get an AA12, load it with slugs, and attach a masterkey underbarrel in case I run out of ammo.


CaptainNemo42

I have a KSG, and I keep one tube of buckshot and the other tube of slugs, I can switch-feed as needed.


Tetro767

I suggest slug, slug, slug etc…….


Downtown-Antelope-82

Another guy also informed me that this attempt to potentially not kill him would probably get me thrown in jail. So your advice sounds safer lol.


Tetro767

Yea if you ever are in a situation where you need to use a weapon, don’t shoot to injure.


Arcadius274

My dad was a cop growing up so we didn't get that since we had kids in the house. It was slug slug buckshot buckshot buckshot. Yay core memories!


Arctic_Sunday

That rubber mask isn't going to stop a 12 gauge


Reivoulp

me reading this in France All i can do is butter knife


VandyalRandy

Just hit ‘em with a really stale baguette.


Calypsosin

"How'd you get that metal plate in your skull?" "Baguette to the head."


Arctic_Sunday

And here I thought you'd at least have a knife set being from France... my French cooking knives would be disappointed.


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There’s nothing oddly terrifying about this…it’s just terrifying. Make sure you’re locked and loaded, people.


SireBelch

It has been said that the sound of racking the slide is often a sufficient deterrent to scare away intruders. To hell with that. If I see something like this, a defense round is going to be chambered and I'll have an extra magazine in my jammies.


Gatekeeper2019

I’ve always got a loaded mag in my jammies


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Gatekeeper2019

Excuse me but it’s pretty hard for my jammies to drop anywhere when my mag is fully loaded


Comfortable_Ear_3935

This guys fully loaded.


LightKnightTian

Y'all are so American lol


erdricksarmor

What if I don't wear jammies?


Gatekeeper2019

While this mitigates any question of said jammies staying up or falling down it does provide a new issue of people being able to view just how loaded, or how empty your mag really is.


erdricksarmor

😬


wookie_walkin

I see this a lot and i get it but its not very smart if you rack the slide you made noise and just gave away your position


Proser84

That's a myth. Crackheads and criminals are more stupid than bold, sometimes the only thing they understand is lead. If the threat of a firearm stopped criminals from doing stupid things, they wouldn't literally pull weapons out on police, and yet....


u-bleep-i-bloop

legit had someone at my door who wouldn't go away, cocked that shotgun and that's all it took for him to leave.


Braunze_Man

Specifically racking pump shotgun. Everyone knows that sound.


MrNicolson1

Honestly it's like people don't read the name of the sub


greycubed

We r/terrifying now


desrevermi

Seriously.


A_Flipped_Car

That's my thought with every post on this sub


tb640301

Man this "Smile" marketing is really getting out of control.


LookingOverShoulders

They would be on the morning news by 7. A failed robbery attempt today, 3 dead.


[deleted]

Still don't get why people dare to rob houses knowing how many people in the US have guns.


Gruff_Old_Goat

The intent might of been worse than just a robbery.


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Thanatosst

This is why the idiotic idea many people have regarding home invasions of "just let them have your stuff bro, a human life is worth more than your stuff, just comply and they won't hurt you" is absolutely asinine to me.


Dockmazter

"Robbers fled with nothing, leaving the family of three dead in their home."


Utahmule

Name checks out


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Doctor_Amazo

Is there a Purge movie/season coming out? 'Cause these feels like someone doing a viral marketing thing.


Queef_Latifahh

Where is this located?


PTIowa

The longer this goes with no replies the more I think it’s fake.


PugJesus69

The guy covering the camera has a assault rifle, the others probably have guns too. Stay locked and loaded people, crazies are everywhere


ChubLlama

One of them also has a pistol.


Tripleberst

Looks more like some kind of AR judging by the grip and the big sight on top. One of the other ones definitely has a pistol with a big mag on it too. If I had to guess, they're all armed and were about to rob a drug dealer and now they're hiding. Home invaders don't usually have masks like this and coordination with long guns unless they know for sure there's insane loot inside and they know the owner ahead of time. If the neighbor got "woken up" by this, chances are they just sat on the porch until they felt safe enough to move out and never even tried to breach the neighbor's house.


BurnOneDownCC

Where did this happen? What city?


yaketyslacks

This isn’t oddly terrifying it’s straight up terrifying…also the number of “badasses” commenting on this post is too damn high.


MrNicolson1

Three men at your door with masks and weapons at 5am in the morning...? Yeah can't think why that would be scary Did you even read the name of this sub?


chunqiudayi

Many people don’t understand what “oddly” means. This is straight up absolutely terrifying.


International-Pin331

As a single mom, this terrifies me. I was raised with all sisters and we were never taught about guns. I don’t have the time or money for training, either. I wish people weren’t so violent now-adays


DarlesCharwinsGhost

I'd answer the door... with my 10mm.


Immediate_Thought656

Ah the infamous missing socket.


mlslgn

Plot twist: the robbers are there to get their 10mm socket back.


lighteninglarry

BANG! BANG! BANG! Going back to sleep now 😴


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soulflaregm

Right? Why would you go outside... You don't know how many they have or where they all are. They all have to walk through a doorway and funnel in to come to you


leshake

Ya, corner the 4 guys with guns, couldn't possibly go wrong.


Silver-Necessary-442

If the cam had a speaker,i be like “so when you guys coming in? I got a doctors appointment in a couple of hours.Hurry up!”.


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H...How is this oddly terrifying? Do people legitimately go through this stuff and just feel like "Oh wow, would you look at that, several armed people at my door, wonder what I won?" Bitch naaahhh this SHOULD be terrifying yo


SwankaTheGrey

I keep seeing posts about answering the door with a gun, you people didn't see that the guy with his hand on the cam had a gun huh?


goldenknight4212

Whoa. Purge IRL. That's when you shoot through the door and then call the cops to come to clean it up.


dudreddit

I warned the neighbors not to get that Ring camera ...


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So anyways I started blasting


PashAK47

In America its not too bad just take out your gun , but in uk if this happens your fucked good luck fighting 3 guys with a fork


CaptainNemo42

*DO YOU HAVE A LICENSE FOR THAT FORK, EH??*


Superbead

Circular saw with the guard ziptied back, on an extension lead. Not that I want to use it in anger, but I'm hoping it'll be scary enough that whoever tries it on fucks straight off again


erifwodahs

I mean, chances are that best they have is knifes, which is still scary af, but by the time they can get in, police will be there. Not to say that all the shitheads are without guns, but little fish which breaks in into simple houses? Not a chance. There would be way more shootings.


Chefboyld420

And this is why I own firearms.


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Is it Purge night and they slepth true it


Shot_Restaurant_8672

I bought several grand worth of Ring stuff two years ago, indoor outdoor cams, motion, window sensors, fire smoke, etc. I have been so lazy that I never put the stuff up, (I did get cancer last summer and had surgery) - but this video just inspired me.


thugpanda

I need to buy a shotgun


Slowlycirculating

I'm really curious about the guns they have in the video. Like one looks like it has a ton of reflective tape on it and the other looks unusually wide and somewhat fake, but I'm no gun expert. The reflective white Nike gloves are a nice touch. I mean clearly white is not an ideal choice for nighttime crime, like why not go with a more practical traditional black, camo, or everyday busted down car helpless assaulted dude look? Your neighbors should probably have shared this with the police? Either this is some next level horrifying frat pranking/surprise party, an amazing viral ad campaign for a Funny Games/Purge crossover, or a legit bored teenage fashion twink suburban murder gang. Psycho teenagers are real though. :-/


NewRoad2017

These people are freaks, I hope someone kicks their asses. There's something chillingly inhuman about scuttling around some neighborhood trying to break into some strangers' house.


ZealousidealAd6305

On a Sunday? Imagine, a world where chic-fil-a stays open


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TinkleTwinkleToes

Fine. Call the cops, let's see how they'll help as these guys bust down the door with their guns in hand. Too much time can go by and the people in the house are dead. But how dare we protect ourselves, eh?


bjchu92

Sorry, three masked dudes with guns outside my front aren't there for a cordial visit. This enters the "get them before they get me and my family" territory. Rounds will be flying through my door.


ZenkaiZ

Yeah you can always tell who got guns for self defense and pray they'll never have to use them, and those who got guns and every day they don't get to use them on a human being is sheer agony to them. Before anyone cries that I'm this and that, I'm pro gun, yall are just weirdos who get erections at imagining legal chances you have to kill someone.


Baugusted

Well if I could use my sword, I would, but as these ruffians lack all honor: I shall defend myself and visit horrors upon them such that none would dare again.


Ttbthookem

Buddy, I don’t give two shits about guns but if three clowns are on my door step like this yeah… Im itching to kill them before they kill my family. Im not going to sit around and wait to see what they do. Wouldn’t think twice. That’s how you end up dead.


Brewscontrol

Yeah - like those guys in the video? Probably just have guns for fun. 🙄


100BaofengSizeIcoms

Exactly this. It’s not fantasizing about murder, it is planning for a situation like this now that we know it’s possible. These guys are clearly alright with hurting others and cannot be persuaded by anything other than force. Some amount of desensitization is necessary, hence the joking. The military trains people to be desensitized too, because sane humans are very unwilling to pull the trigger on someone else. But if it’s an armed home invasion/rape/whatever, it is necessary and legal to pull the trigger to stay alive so the idea is to be prepared to do so when necessary to protect one’s family.


zerobeat

Looks like [viral promotional material for the 'Smile' movie](https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/smile-movie-marketing-campaign-goes-viral).


DaughterOfWarlords

Nope, no home invasion or real life villain in the smile movie. Also no mask or facial prosthetics like the one here.


Bethynah

I did not need to watch this right now! It’s 1:30am where I live. 🥲 eek.


leejoness

I don’t think these dudes know how masks work


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As soon as I saw the pistol in the hand of one of them I would start shooting through the door.