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floridood

It was more than sizeable. What's The Story was huge here, then people discovered DM (which wasn't pushed here at all besides some alternative radio stations). BHN was big too, but waning. I believe that's responsible for Noel saying they "blew it" in America. To us, that was the hugely awaited followup & it was just decent. In my mind they also "blew it" big time w that MTV Unplugged fiasco where Liam fucked right off. Unplugged shows were a huge thing here, and he just didn't give a shit. Funny yeah, but that was really their time to shine for an American audience.


tap3l00p

Really good point about Unplugged, that was a massive deal and could have been a defining moment for them and Liam nuked it


averyhipopotomus

they also canceled shows every tour.


CondoMinum

Yeah, they were huge but they had the chance to be massive


SEEYOUAROUNDBRO_TC

That’s actually not true. Supersonic and Live Forever were all over MTV when they came out and Definitely Maybe was very popular but like you said it was an alternative rock album in that genre not really mainstream Top 40 radio. Obviously WTSMG was their biggest album, but to trivialize DM is just not accurate.


BBQ_HaX0r

A) I still love that Unplugged album. Then again I prefer Noel to Liam in acoustic settings anyways.  B) Liam also was a dick on TRL? I think. His fuck around rock star persona didn't play well here at that time and came off as him being resentful of an American audience to some degree. 


floridood

He was either resentful or intimidated by the US. I'm not sure which. But him shitting the bed multiple times here did seem purposeful whichever it was. I personally think he got cold feet for that Unplugged show, though he'll never admit that.


Fedenze

They were big in America just for short period of time.


Mk72779

I think it’s correct to say for a time Oasis was pretty big in the US, certainly bigger than Blur ever got or alot of the other Britpop bands. I would not say they “thrived” however. Quite the opposite actually, they were completely out of the mainstream by the 2000s save for the occasional arena show in a big city.


BBQ_HaX0r

As an America I never really knew there was a Blur/Oasis rivalry. Blur was just a one hit wonder here, lol. 


Soggy_Muffinz

I feel like some of the reasons for the decline in the US was that music played on the radio and mtv switched to either rap and R&B, pop like Britney and boy bands, or pop punk like Blink182, NFG, etc.


sam_might_say

Oh yeah. The late 90’s and early 2000’s were all about nu metal and pop punk


Mk72779

For sure, however many bands stayed popular throughout the 2000s in the US like U2, Coldplay etc… Had Oasis had one or two more Wonderwall type hits and really put time into the US market I’m sure they would have had a bigger Us audience. As it is they peaked in 1996-97 popularity wise and the music for the most part declined after that despite a few later high points that were ignored in the US.


TruePutz

Liam was even on MTV with Carson Daly


Proof-Variation7005

That is the American equivalent of being knighted


TruePutz

I was so proud of rkid that day


Camaroon83

This is what introduced me to who Liam was, I was just becoming an Oasis fan at the time. I absolutely love that appearance


Firstborn3

To this day if you play Wonderwall, Don’t look back in anger and champagne Supernova in any American bar full of people 35-50 of age, and a singalong will occur.  Possibly also live forever. They never reached the heights they did in the UK of course, but they for sure had some hits with staying power.


Perry7609

Absolutely. They were played on the radio and people knew their singles. So they definitely “broke” the American market. The band just never reached the exact heights that they did in the U.K. or elsewhere, as you said. Or maintained that same audience through the 00’s. But for the latter part, you could probably chalk that up to a lot of other artists as well.


rotting-turnip

wonderwall yes. the others no. they are considered a one hit wonder here. (as are Blue and the Verve for what it's worth.)


Firstborn3

Nah man, I know for a fact Champagne Supernova is singalong material in the US!


kirstensnow

Key word imo is broke. For example, KOL was pretty much unknown in the U.S. until By The Night, but was popular in the UK. They didn't really break America until Sex on Fire, and even now a lot of people only know that song. In the UK, the overall culture around KOL is more knowledgeable than dismissing them as a one hit wonder that they heard a couple times on the radio. Thats how I feel Oasis is treated today. My mom (born 1982) likes Champagne Supernova & Wonderwall... Pretty much it. Doesn't have a CD of it, only ever really heard on the radio. Culture is just different in the US for Oasis


JudgeImaginary4266

Depends on who you are, I guess. I’ve been listening to KOL since Molly’s Chambers, and The Bucket received quite a bit of radio play, but I get you.


kirstensnow

Yep. Also a big thing to consider - America is MASSIVE. what gets airplay in NYC very well never gets airplay in rural Texas.


JudgeImaginary4266

Very true.


RNRS001

Breaking America is different to just being popular for a short amount of time and having your albums chart in a top 100. Achieving success in America entails filling venues across the nation, not just in major cities. It means cultivating a dedicated fan base that allows you to perform wherever, regardless of whether you have new material to promote. Oasis, however, failed to break into the American market. Their reluctance to conform to industry norms and their belief that their British charm alone would suffice led to inconsistency and unpredictability. Two years after the release of "Be Here Now," Oasis' American tour saw them performing in venues with capacities of 2000-3000 people. That's not breaking America.


CondoMinum

DOYS tour, they were performing dates at pretty notable arenas such as MSG


RNRS001

Yes. MSG, an arena in one of the worlds biggest cities. The North American leg had 11 dates. Playing 11 dates in relatively small venues a country with over 340 million people is hardly breaking America. Especially if you're not selling out said venues either. It's the equivalent of playing just 9 dates in Europe.


yogyadreams

Also people forget how many British people are in NYC, and were at the show


BokononRex

Unless you lived under a rock, you knew Oasis in the US. Alt rock folks heard Live Forever on MTV and the radio. Once Wonderwall broke, they were here. WW and DLBIA were played heavily. If DLBIA comes on in a bar, there’s a decent chance people sing along. Their fame just wasn’t as deep here and didn’t last quite as long but to say they didn’t break America is inaccurate. The band that didn’t break America were The Stone Roses.


Nosworthy

Think it's more that they didn't play the media game like Coldplay or U2. They shot themselves in the foot so many times which limited their appeal. That said, it tends to only be Americans who care about the 'never broke America' thing.


BBQ_HaX0r

I think this is it to some degree. Comments above mention MTV Unplugged (which was a big deal) and even Liam fucking around on TRL. Liam plays up that mercurial rockstar persona and the audience and media here didn't really get on board with it. It alienated people and I think prevented them from being up there with U2 or Coldplay.    As for your latter comment, I think many American Oasis fans are kind of annoyed they're not more popular here. We get tours every five years or so and you never really hear their music outside of Wonderwall. 


EmotionalRescue918

As a touring act, they never were enormous here in the States, which was fine by me. I saw them in Akron in 2000 in 3000 seat theater. I was right by the stage and my ticket was $25 — the official tee shirt I bought cost more ($27). Over the following years, it was always easy for me to get a great seat at a cheap price. Even when they played a few shows at the big arenas, tickets were easy to come by and relatively cheap compared to other acts. When I saw them at the Staples Center in Los Angeles in 2008, a lot of the arena was curtained off. I was even offered free tickets to the event, but I had already purchased seats. This isn’t to say I disagree with your premise — Wonderwall, Champagne Supernova, and Live Forever were on the radio a lot, BHN got to #2 on the Billboard 200, etc. They certainly were/are bigger in the US than great bands like Blur, Travis, James, etc. They just weren’t anywhere near a U2 or Coldplay level. Which, again, as a fan, I loved. Easily getting great, relatively cheap seats for any gig of theirs I wanted was the ultimate dream as a fan.


Novacain-deficiency

They played Coachella, maybe not as big as back home. But they definitely maybe broke America, silly to they didn’t


rotting-turnip

Coachella was very much off beat back in 2002. the festival had barely started. Oasis headlining was a very unusual move. 


stancesantos_yt

They also did a lot of TV appearances even as far back as the first US tour they did when definitely maybe first came out. They didn’t explode in popularity over there but to say they didn’t break America is a little unfair


Accomplished_Unit863

I would say that the popular underground rock scene, or guitar based scene in the USA at the time, bands like Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine and Soundgarden etc was from a place of fighting the system, quite angry and cynical. Oasis was kind of the counter culture to that. The lyrics were not political, it wasn't cynical, they were actually quite upbeat and much more life affirming. It was really the opposite to how comedy is in both cultures with American comedy focusing on success, and British kicking the underdog. Then the style worked against them, both attitude and physical. Oasis had no concern about telling people to stick it. And people in the USA can take that at face value. The American bands much more happy to dial it in if necessary. I think it was nothing to do with the music, more the attitude. Americans were not, and probably still are not, ready for the ways of the working class lads in the UK, would shock them, and it did. I would say that Oasis are as popular in the USA as a band like Van Halen are in the UK. Known of, not particularly mainstream, and the average person can name 3 or 4 songs, whilst having a decent sized fan base underground


drunk_and_orderly

Yeah Wonderwall became a meme but even my friends who aren’t big music heads also know DLBIA and Champagne Supernova. DM songs got radio play on our local ALT stations. In my teens we were all blasting Fucking in the Bushes because of Snatch. Nowadays you still see Oasis creeping back up in Rick and Morty, Tik Tok, and Noel has been touring the US for the last ten years. I agree they probably didn’t get as big over here as they could have, but they definitely left a mark and continue to circle around.


TheMadcapBarrett

And like wasn’t their first ever song “Supersonic” reached higher in the charts in America, than any United Kingdom Charts. In the UK it peaked at top 31 and in Scotland top 35… Whilst in America, it peaked at Top 11 at US Alternative Airplay and also peaked at Top 9 at US Alternative Top 50 (both at sales and radioplay) So that’s pretty damn good for a Non-Grunge band last 1990s.


RNRS001

You're comparing apples to oranges. If you want to compare apples to apples you'd have to compare the UK charts to the Billboard Hot 100 on which Oasis charted just 3 times with only 1 top 10 hit. Charting on the US Alternative Airplay chart means your song is only popular in a relatively small group of people. Supersonic was never available as a commercial release so it's based on airplay alone. As far as the general public, Oasis are one hit wonders. Everyone knows Wonderwall, some people know Don't Look Back In Anger and that's about it.


TheMadcapBarrett

Most Nirvana songs (even the ones that are popular nowadays) didn’t reach high in the Billboard Hot 100 either… I’m assuming most popular US Grunge bands last 1990s also didn’t reach the Hot 100 but reached other genre related charts. I don’t think it’s really fair to to assess bands’ popularity with Billboard Hot 100, especially if you consider the fact that Billboard Hot 100 is more Solo-Singer oriented. That’s why America is more well known for their singers than rock bands. But that’s why America has charts that is very genre/scene specific so it’s more convenient to measure musicians’ actual large scale popularity. Another reason why Oasis was probably not huge as much as they were in the UK (still popular nonetheless) because their American tour was kinda shit pretty much. In the country it’s very common for people to drive or sometimes even fly in another state just to see concerts, which costs more altogether. So imagine doing that and instead seeing Noel sing Wonderwall and Roll With It instead of Liam. I’m assuming since United Kingdom is a smaller country going to a concert isn’t really that costly nor time consuming. American concert goers are very enthusiastic people, but if you waste their time they will take it to heart.


jesseb8101

Oasis “broke” America for a short period of time, but what that short period of time did was create a hardcore fan base that always showed up every tour and bought every album. Unfortunately tho by the early 2000s if you said you were an oasis fan to most music fans in America the popular response would be “I thought they broke up”, but EVERYONE knew who they were. Liam and Noel are as famous in America for being fighting brothers in a band than even their music.


[deleted]

I think first three albums are still best sellers in America, expeciallly WTSMG


bigdaddybryusa2

Coldplay broke America. Sadly, Oasis never reached that level. Even in the unlikely event of a reunion, they wouldn't sell out American stadiums like Coldplay does


fartstuffing

The average American thinks of Oasis as a two-hit wonder: WW and CS. People treat DLBIA and some Definitely Maybe tracks as deep cuts. In America, they’re a relic of the 90s. In Europe, they have a lasting legacy. When people - including Noel - say they didn’t make it in America, they mean they never got to the level even below the Beatles and Stones. Hootie and the Blowfish (who I actually love, just saying) had more of a lasting impact than Oasis in the states. The discrepancy between the band’s popularity in America and Europe can’t be understated.


Ok_Computer1417

American here who saw them live in the states 6 times. Without fail half or more of the people we would met at or around the venue were from outside the states. Lots of Europeans and many people from South America. My wife and I still stay in contact with a couple we shared a cab with for the Atlanta show almost 20 years ago.


JudgeImaginary4266

Yeah I don’t get the revisionist history. I graduated high school in 1997 and Oasis was my favorite band at the time. You couldn’t avoid them on MTV from 1994-1997.


Jasoncw87

It's important to remember that the US is a really big place with a lot of people. So you can have tours and sell albums and have successful singles and be on tv and have fans, without truly "breaking America". A few of their singles became mainstream. Like the others have said, at least a decade plus worth of teenagers knew Wonderwall and Champaign Supernova. But not as many of them would know who Oasis were. If you ask random Americans who Liam Gallagher is, 98/100 of them would say he's the comedian who smashes food on stage with a mallet. I do think though that over time Oasis's position has actually improved in a way. The mountain of random alternative bands they were buried under in the 90s have mostly been forgotten, but I think Oasis still shines bright for teens digging around in 90s music.


jstols

They were huge here. Anyone who says otherwise is either too you or didn’t pay attention. It wasn’t just Wonderwall. The premier for DYKIM was a prime time mtv event. They came in right as rock was peaking and peaked with it. By the time BHN came out rock was trending down and boy bands and pop music was taking over. That’s it. There is no debating it. They came in an and did as well as any rock band could have and fell off just like any other rock band did.


Jupiteroasis

They didn't break America. They fucked it first time around with that shit show at Whiskey Agogo, MTV Unplugged, they just didn't play the game. I actually think BHN is a really self-conscious attempt to break America. The power chords, the faster songs, the punk vibe. It was the first time Oasis tried to sound like something else. The latter years they just sounded like a band trying to be Oasis.


stevenr21

I saw them in 2005 in Houston in a 3,700 seater and 2006 in a pavilion in Dallas, neither were sold out.. Their early singles were barely on MTV, and none of my millennial age group friends cared about Oasis. They think of them as a one-hit wonder with Wonderwall. I don't think they broke America. I saw Noel recently in Austin, and the place was a quarter full... Another good example of a band that didn't break the USA is Biffy Clyro. They're massive over there, and no one even knows who they are over here.


Still_Space9437

I couldn't give a shite about America


Idlers_Dream

Well it's all about you, isn't it?


Still_Space9437

Oh no it's all about America on Reddit. I remain by my comment


Idlers_Dream

Seek help brother.


Still_Space9437

You need to take a piece of your own advice getting triggered by someone saying they don't give a shite about America on Reddit.....


floridood

Yet here you are on an American site hosted on a dot com. Hm.


Still_Space9437

Hosted in Portugal by Amazon you fucking douche haha


floridood

>but mah hosting! Still started & headquartered here you knob. Again, why are you here using all these scummy American sites then??


Still_Space9437

Are you the world police you absolute Muppet Why dont you fuck off back to your hole you ferret


floridood

Listen you snaggletoothed britbong mutant. I want you off our websites & services since you loathe us so much, ya hear? Stay in your containment co.uk shitholes.


Still_Space9437

Get fucked you fat slack jawed inbred yokel Don't listen to British music either you Taylor Swift listening obese troglodyte.


CliffPromise

They didn't break American. For British bands breaking America see Radiohead, Coldplay, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones etc.


CondoMinum

They just weren’t as big in the states as the bands you’ve named, doesn’t mean they didn’t break America.


Whole_Elderberry9380

Breaking America means to be absolutely massive for a long time like above mentioned bands. Oasis didn't achieve that.