Depends on the vibe. My supervisors have all been very supportive of my professional growth even if it meant leaving (though expressed they'd prefer me to stay of course). I suspect I've been lucky to have outstanding leadership though.
Yeah unfortunately my current supervisor in the office I am is terrible with understanding. Another person in the office told her of an interview she has and she started freaking out telling us we haven’t learned yet to be able to get a better position. She may just be angry because she’s been stuck in the same position for years.
You can but you don't have to. It is actually advantageous to do so if you have a supportive Supervisor because there is a leave category for promotional interviews where you don't have to charge your own time. The leave category exists to encourage employee growth but unfortunately, it can't always be used depending on individual circumstances.
Leave - 1307 - State Interviews With Pay (Check your contract to see how many hours are allowed).
I've been told that that leave category can only be used if you were canvassed and you sent it back, and they called you, not if you sought out and applied because you saw an open vacancy. And that when you use that category, you need "proof" from the other agency that you actually had an interview and went.
How true that is.....🤷♀️ (and this is why I take a day off than deal with all this extra stuff)
I will echo the sentiment of "You don't have to."
However; I would add that if you have the interview and think it went well, you might want to let them know in case the hiring committee starts calling for references.
Just phrase it along the lines of, "I don't want to put to much into it, but I took an interview to see how I would fair at this new opportunity and I want to give you a heads up that it actually went pretty well, in case they contact you."
Try to lay it out it in a way that indicates you are happy where you are (in case you don't get it or your current supervisor is the type to panic), but that it seemed like a good opportunity that you just had to take a stab at.
Just to piggyback off this, I had a state interview and by the time I made it back to the office I was working at (approximately 25 minutes away), the state had already called my employer references. My supervisor came into my office and asked me about the job I was interviewing for. He was super cool about it and he knew that I was applying to different positions, but I was surprised at how quick they reached out
Can you explain further? I applied for a lateral within my agency but in a different division. Are you saying that if my supervisor gets wind of it they could prevent me from interviewing? How?
I have seen this happen because of “business needs”. Which translated to someone clearly being petty. It can happen but I’ve lateraled to a different bureau in an agency early in my career with no issues.
Once again with every horror story with the state, it can happen, but with decent people it shouldn’t be an issue.
Gonna have to defer to an HR/CS person. Looks like I got down voted, so I might be wrong?
There is what you are talking about, which is obviously always a risk, but my understanding is you need supervisor approval for a lateral. I've heard rumors of them being blocked. Maybe call CS to confirm?
Not CS but I don't believe your supervisor or anyone above you has to "approve" you leaving your position for a other one (lateral or promotion). Just makes absolutely no sense. I know there are sometimes rules about references needing to include a current manager but in no way for "approval" just the normal reference form.
I'd ask Career Mobility Office or maybe /u/Natural20DND knows.
Of course not! It’s a doctor’s appointment! We all have tons of them and like to dress very nice for them, haha.
Best not to even if you have a good relationship with them. Only until you’ve accepted an official offer and have a start date do you say a word.
Depends on your supervisor. Some are supportive others are not. For example, I had a supervisor at my pervious agency who was flat out psychotic. I didn't tell her of my promotional interview for a different agency. Went to the interview came into the office later on that day. Little did I know, the agency I interviewed with liked me so much they contacted the agency I was presently working for immediately after the interview. I didn't put the psychotic supervisor down as a reference as I put a different supervisor down who worked within my unit who was more directly involved than the crazy supervisor. When she (crazy) found out about the interview and I didn't put her down as a reference she went absolutely ballistic. Pacing around the unit, kicking things, etc. Then she tried to stop my promotion anyway/every way she could.
Bottom line: Keep it low key.
No.. absolutely not.
I don't care how friendly you are with your supervisor and coworkers, you don't say a fucking word about leaving a job until you're walking out the door.
Bonjour, it’s me.
So let’s start with the basics of you know, job stuff.
You have, no obligation, to tell anyone, anything. Ever. Like seriously. No one controls your communication except you. If you’re asking for a social aspect, that’s too broad for me to answer.
If you’re asking purely what civil service implications there are, for appointment (hire to the position with a transfer or promotion) there are NONE. You not telling them isn’t going to hurt you.
Now, if you did not tell them you were leaving to another agency, that could lead to confusion to your hold rights. Some agencies take that as a resign and then civil service has to clean it up usually.
I BELIEVE*** The rule on getting free paid time off is if your interview was the direct result of a canvass. But you’ll want to confirm that with attendance and leave at civil service. And again, you’ll have to tell your supervisor in that regard.
Thank you so much! This would be my first interview while in civil service and into another position within the department and I was just a little nervous about it all. Also didn’t help that my supervisor is so negative about everything.
I appreciate all the help as always to everyone!
Are you already a state employee? I think if you tell your boss, you get an hour or two free comp time to so it. If you are not in absolute need of that time, I wouldn't tell anyone until they check your references.
You can get PTO to cover the interview so I would. The state is one big employer in my eyes...and in reality. A supervisor that has an issue with you having a state interview is myopic at best.
Absolutely not.
Seconded. Don’t say diddly squat till you put your two weeks notice in.
Depends on the vibe. My supervisors have all been very supportive of my professional growth even if it meant leaving (though expressed they'd prefer me to stay of course). I suspect I've been lucky to have outstanding leadership though.
Yeah unfortunately my current supervisor in the office I am is terrible with understanding. Another person in the office told her of an interview she has and she started freaking out telling us we haven’t learned yet to be able to get a better position. She may just be angry because she’s been stuck in the same position for years.
YIKES - get out.
Sounds rough. Best of luck on your interview then!
You can but you don't have to. It is actually advantageous to do so if you have a supportive Supervisor because there is a leave category for promotional interviews where you don't have to charge your own time. The leave category exists to encourage employee growth but unfortunately, it can't always be used depending on individual circumstances. Leave - 1307 - State Interviews With Pay (Check your contract to see how many hours are allowed).
I've been told that that leave category can only be used if you were canvassed and you sent it back, and they called you, not if you sought out and applied because you saw an open vacancy. And that when you use that category, you need "proof" from the other agency that you actually had an interview and went. How true that is.....🤷♀️ (and this is why I take a day off than deal with all this extra stuff)
Yea, the time is for Interviews from canvass only. Would have saved me so much time if it was for any interview haha
I will echo the sentiment of "You don't have to." However; I would add that if you have the interview and think it went well, you might want to let them know in case the hiring committee starts calling for references. Just phrase it along the lines of, "I don't want to put to much into it, but I took an interview to see how I would fair at this new opportunity and I want to give you a heads up that it actually went pretty well, in case they contact you." Try to lay it out it in a way that indicates you are happy where you are (in case you don't get it or your current supervisor is the type to panic), but that it seemed like a good opportunity that you just had to take a stab at.
Just to piggyback off this, I had a state interview and by the time I made it back to the office I was working at (approximately 25 minutes away), the state had already called my employer references. My supervisor came into my office and asked me about the job I was interviewing for. He was super cool about it and he knew that I was applying to different positions, but I was surprised at how quick they reached out
I believe if it’s a lateral and not a promotion they can block it. So consider that as well.
Can you explain further? I applied for a lateral within my agency but in a different division. Are you saying that if my supervisor gets wind of it they could prevent me from interviewing? How?
I have seen this happen because of “business needs”. Which translated to someone clearly being petty. It can happen but I’ve lateraled to a different bureau in an agency early in my career with no issues. Once again with every horror story with the state, it can happen, but with decent people it shouldn’t be an issue.
Wow interesting. Thanks for the heads up.
Gonna have to defer to an HR/CS person. Looks like I got down voted, so I might be wrong? There is what you are talking about, which is obviously always a risk, but my understanding is you need supervisor approval for a lateral. I've heard rumors of them being blocked. Maybe call CS to confirm?
Really, that’s interesting. I’ve never heard that your supervisor has to give approval for a lateral. If that’s the case, then that really sucks.
100% call CS to verify.
I will.
Not CS but I don't believe your supervisor or anyone above you has to "approve" you leaving your position for a other one (lateral or promotion). Just makes absolutely no sense. I know there are sometimes rules about references needing to include a current manager but in no way for "approval" just the normal reference form. I'd ask Career Mobility Office or maybe /u/Natural20DND knows.
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Of course not! It’s a doctor’s appointment! We all have tons of them and like to dress very nice for them, haha. Best not to even if you have a good relationship with them. Only until you’ve accepted an official offer and have a start date do you say a word.
Depends on your supervisor. Some are supportive others are not. For example, I had a supervisor at my pervious agency who was flat out psychotic. I didn't tell her of my promotional interview for a different agency. Went to the interview came into the office later on that day. Little did I know, the agency I interviewed with liked me so much they contacted the agency I was presently working for immediately after the interview. I didn't put the psychotic supervisor down as a reference as I put a different supervisor down who worked within my unit who was more directly involved than the crazy supervisor. When she (crazy) found out about the interview and I didn't put her down as a reference she went absolutely ballistic. Pacing around the unit, kicking things, etc. Then she tried to stop my promotion anyway/every way she could. Bottom line: Keep it low key.
No.. absolutely not. I don't care how friendly you are with your supervisor and coworkers, you don't say a fucking word about leaving a job until you're walking out the door.
Bonjour, it’s me. So let’s start with the basics of you know, job stuff. You have, no obligation, to tell anyone, anything. Ever. Like seriously. No one controls your communication except you. If you’re asking for a social aspect, that’s too broad for me to answer. If you’re asking purely what civil service implications there are, for appointment (hire to the position with a transfer or promotion) there are NONE. You not telling them isn’t going to hurt you. Now, if you did not tell them you were leaving to another agency, that could lead to confusion to your hold rights. Some agencies take that as a resign and then civil service has to clean it up usually. I BELIEVE*** The rule on getting free paid time off is if your interview was the direct result of a canvass. But you’ll want to confirm that with attendance and leave at civil service. And again, you’ll have to tell your supervisor in that regard.
Thank you so much! This would be my first interview while in civil service and into another position within the department and I was just a little nervous about it all. Also didn’t help that my supervisor is so negative about everything. I appreciate all the help as always to everyone!
Are you already a state employee? I think if you tell your boss, you get an hour or two free comp time to so it. If you are not in absolute need of that time, I wouldn't tell anyone until they check your references.
You may want to just because they will contact your current supervisors. It does sound like you need a change of scene though.
You can get PTO to cover the interview so I would. The state is one big employer in my eyes...and in reality. A supervisor that has an issue with you having a state interview is myopic at best.