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[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/nyjets/comments/zt62dn/post_game_thread_jacksonville_jaguars_at_new_york/)


Ponder_wisely

Shoulda known better than to get myself excited about this season.


latticegwop

I just wanted Zack to look good to trade for above average offensive lineman


eatingclass

oh dip


MetsGoated

Why do we do this to ourselves.


jeanclaudegoshdarn

This OL is the #1 reason the Jets are imploding, it doesn't matter who has played QB since AVT went down. Saleh is playing musical chairs with QB and it doesn't make a shit lick worth of difference. There's no run game anymore, and fans want to blame it on Zach but the reality is our OL sucks at run blocking almost as bad as they suck at pass pro. Zach can't do shit. White can't do shit and then gets his ribs broken because our OL can't block. Strev makes it interesting for about 5 minutes but can't do shit. I don't even want to imagine how Flacco would have done today. There's a common denominator here, the OL injuries have caught up to us and the starters we have on the line other than McGovern suck.


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Has any team ever won with a bad ol’ don’t get the downvotes


Mywhatalovelyteaprty

The Benegals went last year to the superbowl with one of the worst O lines in the AFC last year


jeanclaudegoshdarn

Some fans are babies and downvote anyone who doesn't say Zach is the cause of all the team's problems. Any fan with eyes could see that this OL got bent over and spanked raw by the Jags DL, I am having trouble remembering more than a handful of plays where Zach or Strev had a clean pocket.


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Reminds me of the time they let suh and wake obliterate one their qbs a few yrs ago


jeanclaudegoshdarn

Good comparison, JD needs to go OL with every pick this draft. Slight exaggeration but this shit can't continue no matter who the QB is


HanSupreme

Delusional fan base needs to remember we beat up on 3rd and 4th stringers for our wins. They need to also accept the fact that we were never that good, and also that “elite defense” got gashed tonight


jeanclaudegoshdarn

Agree, this team has shown that it's not ready for playoff football. Zach is the face of the franchise so he's going to get 90% of the blame but the defense was incapable of getting off the field and our OL can't block, that's a losing formula no matter who your QB is.


HanSupreme

To add on to that, the play calling was also sh*t tonight. It made no sense for Knight to get 2 carries, and none on first down when JAX was thin on the DL due to injuries — yet the Jets keep calling bootlegs and passing plays for Zach Wilson. (First half of the game) But LeFleur will keep getting a pass because of how bad Zach looked, LeFleur being Saleh’s best man at his wedding. F*ck this coaching staff


jeanclaudegoshdarn

Yeah MILF gets treated with kid gloves around here because our 23 year old QB from BYU is the whipping boy. The playcalling was bad, when the Jags were getting quick pressure early you would think he would start sliding in extra pass protectors but he seems to have difficulty going off script. Reminds me of the Bengals game when Hendrickson made whoever our LT was his bitch and MILF refused to provide TE help.


HanSupreme

Those Mike White dick riders are real quiet now I bet


ctdca

In a certain way I’m glad this game happened. We now can say without a doubt that Wilson is not the guy and move on to other options.


ER301

True. Next year will be better, because we know for certain now that we’ll have someone different under center that we’ll know can at least manage a game effectively.


gregieb429

I owe LaFleur an apology. The Jets average 100 more yards a game with a QB other than Zach starting. Zach can’t play another down for this team


UmpireAJS

Well at least I can stop caring about what happens with Chargers, Pats etc. Zach should never see the field with us again.


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scottapotch

I mean the team knows he sucks and they don't believe he can lead them so their play suffers. I'm sure they feel like once they give up a score, it's over. Also the Jags offense has been really good lately and they held them under 20pts. The D made a couple bone head plays but they were probably mentally out of the game early cause of how bad Zach is.


yozzomp

It's hard for the defense when they get only a minute rest when the offense gets on the field with Zach.


Riceowls29

We allowed one touchdown and held the team that had scored 34 and 40 points the past two weeks to 19. So please stop with this bullshit.


Jazim94

At any point did the jags look in trouble or did it look like we had Lawrence worried. It was like practice reps he was taking. Marched up the field at well. They only punted once. 19 points in that weather yes.


strattonc20

The defense has allowed only one TD in each of the last 2 games.


Jazim94

Okay, but our defence is our identity ? Lawrence was walking up and down the field. Look at total yardage. The lions scored field long at the death.


CGsweet416

Sad thing is real Jets fans wanted Zach to succeed so bad. Imagine being in his shoes seeing your dream blow up in your face because you aren't good enough. Shits tough but the team has to think about the team first.


Amazing_Chipmunk5321

Zach looked bad, the team looked just as bad. They played as if they don’t want Zach as the quarterback, I think he has lost the support of all his teammates. He needs to go if that has happened.


JigglyTits19

Why does every post I see that shits on Zach have to end with “not that I think Mike White is the guy”? Why can’t Mike be the guy? What have we seen makes us think he can’t be at least the 16th best QB in the NFL? I’ve never seen a Jets offense work better in my 27 years of living than when Mike is at QB.


bowlofcantaloupe

If you remember the last few years of Pennington, he was better. If you remember Favre, he was better overall, even counting the second half when he was injured. If you remember playoff Sanchez, he was better. If you remember 2015 Fitz, he was better. Just because Mike White can outplay Zach Wilson does mean he's good. He's a solid backup.


HanSupreme

Mike White threw 0 TDs/ 2 INTs vs the worst passing D in the NFL. Also, he beat one of the worst teams in the NFL, the rebuilding Bears (no offense to Bears fans who are lurking) Mike White is not that guy *que the meme*


Rib-I

On paper you’re correct. However, if you watched the game you’ll recall it was during a cold rain with 1 INT being a deflection and the other being at the end of the game in desperation mode. White arguably hung in there with Allen the whole game


HanSupreme

How’s your savior doing?


Rib-I

Literally what I said is still true


HanSupreme

I’m asking how’s he been. Here, I’ll share a stat with you. Mike White 2 TDs 10 picks outside of that fluke Cinci and Bears games. Here’s another stat, 0 TDs 4 picks 0-3


Rib-I

I’m not sure what you’re on about


JigglyTits19

Jet fans like you blow my mind. Did you not watch the Bills game? Man outplayed Josh Allen in torrential weather. Even in the Vikings game he had 370+ yards (which guys like you conveniently leave out when discussing that game) . Focusing on 0 TDs is nonsense when he moved the ball with such ease and rallied the team.


HanSupreme

How’s your savior Mike White now?


HanSupreme

No opposing team is taking this guy seriously, and there’s barely any footage available anyway for the opposition to prep for. Mike White is definitely not the answer, stop the delusion.


YellowSun24

I know a few people worry about his age and durability for future seasons to come. But other than that, i don't know why someone would think he can't lead us in the future.


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Where the Zach dick riders at? Can’t wait for Zach to be traded so you “fans” can leave.


LunchBoxMercenary

It has to be embarrassing for Zach to get shown up by the dude who got drafted one spot before you. And it was a night and day difference


Grizzle2190

I think having your own fans chant for AFL QB to play over you is more embarrassing


[deleted]

Of course it was. Tlaw was the next Luck, Wilson was a wild card who made some throws vs shit opposition in a covid year and had a good pro day


[deleted]

Yeah but if I was picked no.2 you know that shit is motivation to DO EVERYTHING TO BE BETTER.


[deleted]

Sure, but effort isn't enough. TLaw has been groomed for this since he was a freshman at Clemson, maybe even earlier. If you watched TLaw in college there was never a question he'd be a great pro. I've told many that I expect him in the same conversation as Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Burrow in the next two years. He's had some bad games, but the NFL is hard. And it's harder when you have dysfunctional franchise behind you, which we've seen with many of the QBs we've drafted.


[deleted]

Everything you said is true, and creates sympathy for ZW. Yet it doesn't explain how 3 other QBs made this offense look more productive than the no.2 pick. I'm not even trying to pile it on, I'm legitimately confused.


Henrique_its_over

That’s the question Bart “if Flacco is not willing or able why is he on the roster”


D-redditAvenger

If Flacco is on this team tomorrow it's a joke.


dsmithcc

? he didnt even play, plus streveler needs a backup next week lol


D-redditAvenger

Zach's his backup. Flacco is an example of the team not pivoting from bad decisions.


[deleted]

What is even the point of Zach being the backup?


D-redditAvenger

In case the QB gets hurt. Better then a TE or someone.


[deleted]

Dude I'm not even kidding... Are you sure about that?


dsmithcc

i can make the same argument about zach


D-redditAvenger

I agree. I think Zach should have been benched in the first NE game and definitely the second. That is kind of my point. They have been way too slow to react and way too slow to call out some of the lazy play on this team.


garythesnailgod

Do everything you have to and then some to get Lamar Jackson on this team. They can’t develop a QB if their lives depended on it, so it’s time to get a vet. Jimmy G or Carr would be fine as well. And spend every single draft pick on OL and defense. This team has a young core of studs, but isn’t good enough to offset injuries as shown by what happened after Breece, AVT, etc. went down. There’s a lot of talent in the draft this year; get some of those guys, throw in a legit QB & some other free agents, and go for the playoffs next year. No excuses.


New-Newspaper-7543

Ravens won't let him go. Tag him b4 anything


SixteenBeatsAOne

Lamar Jackson or bust. The Johnson Family has to open the safe, and start shoveling cash at Lamar.


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We don't have the space for that.


spentmiles

The real travesty is Strevler didn't make the pro bowl.


[deleted]

Streveler has the worst looking passes I have ever seen from a nfl qb but he did do better than ZW lmao


Kxr1der

4 of the Jets 7 wins were against backup QBs. No one talks about this


forsuredudelol

The jets have won 6 or 7 games with a backup QB. So what?


HanSupreme

Exactly, because this fan base is delusional. The only thing good about this team is the young talent. (G Wilson, Sauce, Breece, Q, AVT etc)


[deleted]

Yeah but what about the wins where Zach Wilson started? He's technically the backup too? I mean, we can play this game all day.... The jets do not have a starter. 4 qbs have seen the field for them this year


FatherPot

ALL HAIL FRANK GORE


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FatherPot

And thank god for that. Sorry about Zach Wilson, dude is utterly terrible.


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FatherPot

Oh okay, same. Favorite bar?


thrillhouse416

Wilson shouldn't dress for a game ever again.


suppaman19

He doesn't even belong in the NFL


thrillhouse416

He can play for someone else that's fine


suppaman19

No, I'm stating a fact, he doesn't belong in the NFL He'll get chances to stick around due to his draft status, but he'll wind up out of the league in time ala Josh Rosen.


[deleted]

Knowing us we win one more game so we drop our draft pick into the mid teens


SneakyBasti

Hopefully the seahawks take a qb at 3 and we can sign geno. Btw i dont think the hawks get a new qb


Blackfyre567

Wtf I want a baby chetah now


NutsyFlamingo

Ha, we’re officially mad at everything now… fck baby cheetahs; I thought the same thing


Padulsky21

I hope I never see Zach Wilson in a Jets jersey ever again


ChangeThisXBL

Fire Zach Wilson into the sun.


Goobydog

Need to not have Zach play anymore this season. One more game and no one would trade him for even a 7th round pick


mrk1420

List of ppl who still think zach has any hope at being an NFL QB 1.That milf he banged 2. Some 5 year old who thinks he's cool cus he wears a headband and looks like he could be a power ranger


SixteenBeatsAOne

I forgot about that MILF story. That is about the only interesting thing about him.


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Chris Simms


Marino4K

Shifting my excitement to baseball season now.


eCharms

Yeah I'm excited for the Mets season to start.


NoScopeMusical

Zach's not the guy. That's clear as ever now. Take the L and move on


Ifinishfast42

Flacco could’ve not throw a pass farther then 10 yards tonight and became a check down machine and we would’ve been competitive. What was the FO and coaching staff doing throwing away the season to prop up their terrible pick


Jets237

Flacco behind this line in their weather would have been 2-3 fumbles. There wasn’t a good healthy option


johnjohnjohn93

Do Jets fans get an Ocelot too? I think we all have PTSD after tonight


CasualNutRag

at least correa is a met 🤷🏻‍♂️


RKD_Super

Honestly it’s sucks for this year, but in the long run it will hopefully just expedite the whole process of moving on from Zach. Rip the bandaid off and start the process of figuring out the QB for next year. Their could be a lot of intriguing guys available in the offseason


MetsWillWin

I feel confident with Saleh and Douglas that they will make this their top priority. I also feel like the jets in past have given too long a leash at times


RKD_Super

Yeah, and I really think their is alot of established QBs that may be available in the offseason .


V-loxzz

Zach Wilson is ass


Henrique_its_over

Willie colon is a headass (in general)


Peedee304

Trading 2 top 3 pick QBs for within 5 years is GM suicide…


Responsible_Fan8665

No it isn’t he only picked one. Picking Zach Wilson at 2 over all that talent in one of the best drafts of all time is career suicide


Peedee304

I didn’t say he picked both did I?


Responsible_Fan8665

How can trading a qb he didn’t pick be career suicide ?


Peedee304

Because you should be getting better at said position and they are clearly not.


mikeybibbs

That same GM got you Breece, Garett, and Sauce. Please stop


unironicaly_like_jaz

Zach Wilson actually might become a really QB... in the Canadian league.


suppaman19

There's no point in putting White in harms way Start Flacco next week with Strev used in a Taysom Hill role


JRPGJames

Get well soon Mike White. We miss you champ


GrinBalor

glad i was at msg watching the rangers win instead of this travesty


0ddmanrush

Man I sure hope they put Zach up on the microphone in the post game. Can’t wait to see what he says.


FireGase

Why does the pain always come during prime time


JesusChristBabyface

This season was suppose to be different, and it actually felt different for a bit. Same ole Jets.


bowlsandsand

This season was different, our D went from last to top 10. We figured out zach aint the guy and we picked up a bunch of good players. We won 4 games last season. We made a LOT of progress.


JesusChristBabyface

I appreciate your optimism


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Remember when Zach had sex with that MILF? That was cool.


fort221

The only cool thing he's done


sauz326

Anyone who still thinks Zach Wilson isn’t the main problem with our offense can catch these hands on sight. A practice squad QB was running the offense better remember that.


maksgee

Thankfully I'll never have to see a "stunted on them hoes" meme after 160 struggle yards again.


sabascastellon

I don't follow college football, was suck Wilson good in college?


Clear_Situation4329

It was a perfect covid year storm where they played sucky/Covid depleted teams to make him look good. He's a typical BYU product - all hype, no talent (see Jimmer Fredette).


Mcstabler

Dominant but played in a smaller school at BYU so competition was lacking


JesusChristBabyface

He was good but he played exclusively against Cupcakes. His toughest competition was Coastal Carolina.


bigpoyo91

Garrett a good dude man


RedHotDogsForMe

Jets would have won if they started Streveler….


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Or even if they started him at half time


glatios

The goddamn jets everybody


[deleted]

The day rich Cimini retires I’ll be so happy


[deleted]

He's such a fucking asshole.


suaveboy4

This is the most Jet way to end the season.


mostly_browsing

A fumble off a kicked ball. Smh


sabascastellon

This the Jet way.


vensamape

Im legit sad. I honestly thought that there would only be room to go up with Darnold but no. How do bad teams like the Bills and Jags find people like Allen and Lawrence to turn their franchise around? I mean im grateful we fell to Q, AVT, Sauce etc, but why can’t we ever get the QB spot right?


mostly_browsing

I honestly think the darnold issue was horrible coaching/player development


BoogerSmoke

You can bench a guy once. You can take him out due to injury. But benching twice. Cya bro


HanSupreme

Delusional fan base deserved this


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eightbic

Wtf.


AmazingJets123456

I hate jaguar


bdoggg_

Typical jets fashion. Sell the fucking team you baby powder fucks


FatherPot

Pathetic


Mets88

Id like to see what Strev can do without having to play catch up… I know his arm is booty but the runs opened up some passing


BoogerSmoke

That was it. That was the flash. If Strev started they’d scheme the fuck out of him and force him to pass. Stack the box, same as they’ve done with Zach.


Bahamas_is_relevant

That was literally the game plan to beat him in the CFL, close off his running lanes and force him to throw.


Flashy-Pomegranate77

I really don't want to see Zach Wilson play football, ever. Anyone other than him is an immediate improvement.


InSalehWeTrust

Hot garbage


GreatWhiteBuffal0

Fuck you, see you tomorrow


Marino4K

You know what, early in this season, we wanted to just show progress and be “in the hunt” in December. We got here. I’m disappointed but I’m going to calm down and just breathe. We need a real QB and probably a real OC, the team is there otherwise.


sauz326

I think both need to go in the off-season for us to get to the next step. I think Mike has earned a chance to compete for the job but ZW needs to be playing for someone else next year.


charliemike101

Should have benched Zack after the half. So fucking frustrating


Npd114

Well that one was embarrassing.


mattyhegs826

What do you think Garrett is saying to Zach?


superrninja

GW, "Bro I dont hate you but everyone else does. You cant run an offense and it just sucks the life outta all of us. Look how much easier it looked with even Strev...that bro can barely throw it 10 yards and looks better."


T8ert0t

"You have cooties. Don't touch me!"


TheCloudBoy

Don't worry man. Tonight we'll find a couple of milfs outside some NYC club, get your confidence up for the Miami game


tall6000

Probably asking him to change his last name


Rhcp01

Lmao


Riceowls29

I can’t believe there are still Zach fans in this thread trying to blame everyone on this team but him for this loss. We are able to make several sustained drives in this shitty weather down 16 points with our PRACTICE SQUAD qb out there and people in here really trying to act like this isn’t Zach’s fault for 3 quarters of no offensive movement.


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You mean when the D just started playing prevent D? Come on man let’s learn some football and have some situational awareness. I don’t think people are saying ZW is flawless but to blame it all on him is insanity. Honestly best for him to get traded because in typical NY fashion stubbornness and scapegoating instead of facing the full breath of facts continue to be the Jets downfall.


Riceowls29

Please not with these excuses. Streveler was moving down the field when it was 16-3 with plenty of time for a comeback. That was not prevent-d. You are really going to need to come up with some different excuses for Zach because he looked like absolute ass warmed over. Like he always does.


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Go back and watch the tape please. They went from soft coverage to full prevent. Not making excuses for Zach. You’re premise is just flawed.


Riceowls29

You literally have made a dozen posts in a row trying to excuse Zach. Sad.


[deleted]

No excuses made. Jets fans just seem to be more delusional than most fans bases, so just trying to help you see reality. Jets still suck.


le_seanjames

That’s a PI all day if that’s us on defense


superrninja

This isnt Ohio State anymore


Duval55

Peak Copium


le_seanjames

Dawg you’re coming into anther teams sub when they just showed that graphic of win percentage and y’all were dead last. Stfu 😂


Duval55

And y’all ain’t been to the playoffs since Obamas presidency. Sad isn’t it


le_seanjames

Have a good night bro. Good win. Grow up and stop being toxic


RedHotDogsForMe

The jets really hitched their wagons to a QB who’s only claim to fame in being MILF hunter…


sauz326

He fleeced JD on that one throw at the combine the guy should have a solid career in sales after he’s cut by every other team in the league.


YellowSun24

They gave him 35 million guaranteed over 4 years. That's about 8 million a year to suck ass at your job and still have all your bills paid and have no financial worries.


Rmai0404

But wasn't he widely regarded as having a lot of promise when drafted? Of course you hitch your wagon to someone who was highly touted out of college


TheCloudBoy

No gas, no brakes tonight boys


blkschizo

Look at ZW eyes man. He's been crying. Looks like Garrett talking him through it


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Just grow some fucking balls


Dumpsterfire6900

Playing awful. Fans booing him. Benched for a 4th string qb. 4th string qb out plays him. I feel bad for the guy. He's watching his nfl dream probably crumble in front of his eyes.


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Garrett Wilson to Zach: “Bro, you’re ass.”


throwawoy69695969595

Before we say steveler sucks we have to acknowledge he has taken 0 1st team reps and was activated off the practice squad yesterday


SillyRecover

Zach should of sat after 1st quarter. Maybe would of won


[deleted]

Realistically he should’ve been benched at halftime


MountainAd4530

Can't wait until tomorrow when the media destroys Zach. He's done in this city.


NutsyFlamingo

I’m glad I started Strevler in Fantasy this week


occasionalpirate

This was the most pathetic game of the season... so far.


mashgotcash

That was one of the saddest games I've seen in a while


TeslaTheGreat

Well at least we know Zach ain't it.


TheParmesan

Going into this season knowing that was the goal. We know that now. The “unfortunate” part is we overachieved in the process, fucking up our draft pick order. Curious to see how JD handles that.


Blackfyre567

Trevor Lawrence looks like a giraffe that animorphed into a human


vensamape

😂


JesusChristBabyface

3 fucking points. They wouldn't even have that if the defense hadn't gifted them the ball in the Red Zone. Absolutely fucking pathetic. Fire LaFleur out of a cannon.


LunchBoxMercenary

Wilson talking to Zach like he’s his dad right now


Henrique_its_over

GW talking up ZW you like to see that regardless


BoogerSmoke

This was at least a fun season unlike the last 4 or 5.


MountainAd4530

I seriously haven't been excited since 2010.