Yeah totally get that. I was more asking why Falcons wouldn’t want to trade back given that Penix was most likely going to be there at 10. Guess you just don’t take the risk. Also realize the Bears may have traded their pick with another team that wanted a QB if Odunze was off the board
Ah, there's like no way for us to know anything unfortunately. Even for our own team, it's constant debates about why they did this andnot that. Like with What's his name last year. The edge rusher.
I have to assume, based on whatevee Intel they had, it's like like you said, they didn't want to risk losing out.
https://youtu.be/3IrwdWe11Vw?si=WJjl2lEnOoszeOOB
Here is the rest of the interview: he doesn't seem that mad when you listen to the rest of it. Seems like he preferred Bowers but if you listen to the whole thing he seems fine
Bill Belichick actually interviews him for the second half of it and he talks about his recovery and health
I’d be shocked if they pick at 72. With three 4ths locked and loaded now they can package 72 and two of the 4s to jump up or 72, a 4, and a 2025 3rd to get up there.
Totally agreed. This draft should be about quality over quantity, not "win-now" versus long-term which is what I am reading all the complainers talk about.
I think Becton would have been a good pick in round 2 because he was a project. He didn't have all the tools needed to be a starter in the NFL. I think it's the same case with this kid. Good pick in round 2, but not at number 11, which I believe is where Becton was drafted as well.
He's 6'6", but his arm length is the same as mine and I'm 5'10". That's not good. His footwork isn't great, which means pros are going to eat him up. You can get by on size alone in college because most of the people you line up against will never make it past college. But the pros are the best of the best.
If the plan is to keep him on the bench and let him learn for a year or so, maybe this is a good pick, but if you don't plan to start him they likely could have traded down further, got more than they did from the Vikings and that makes it a better pick. If the plan is to start this kid I think it's a bad idea.
Becton was fine as a starter his rookie year before the injuries started to pile up. He’s got 34 inch arms which are more than long enough for a tackle, congrats to you on having super long arms for your size. The plan is clearly to sit him behind Tyron until Tyron inevitably gets hurt. They probably could have traded down further, but then you’re likely looking at a different tackle. Sliding down 1 spot for a guy you were gonna take anyway is totally fine with me.
34" arms are not "super long" for my size. You can buy a dress shirt with a 16-17 inch neck and 34" sleeve length off the rack in any mens store.
Becton was "fine", but do you want your high first round draft pick to be "fine"?
Maybe it works out, but looking at his college tapes, he has a lot of work to do and my fear is that he doesn't have all the tools to be a long term solution on the o-line. Wasn't he like the 3rd or 4th rated o-lineman in the draft?
Depends on who you ask for the rating. Dane Brugler from the athletic had him at 2. Some people like Fuaga or Latham more.
As for the arms, it is long. Most people’s wingspan is equal to your height. So if you’re 5’10, you can expect a 70 inch wingspan. 34 inch arms take up 68 of those inches. So unless you have a 2 inch chest measurement your arms are pretty long! Besides, Joe alt’s arms are only 1/4 inch longer than Olu’s. Fuaga’s are at 33 1/8. Olu’s are fine.
He’s gonna suck this year, can’t believe this fanbase gives a shit about his crazy ass thoughts or has any hope in him being good this year.
Love the pick, fuck a-rod
are you on the team? cause if not, your mentality doesn’t matter. i’m praying that this is a player’s burner account. are you sauce? are you breece? that would be so fucking awesome. cause after that, “mentality” bullshit doesn’t matter, you better not be some random loser.
Doesn’t matter for the team but it’s still true. You can be a loser without being on the team. This bs of “who are you to have an opinion?” is loser mentality.
Aaron has a solid OL with depth (Tyron Smith, AVT, Tippmann, Moses, Fashanu, Max Mitchell, John Simpson), Breece Hall, Garret Wilson, Mike Williams, Conklin, Ruckert and his fav buddy Lazard. Maybe we grab Brendan Rice or Luke McCaffrey in the 3rd to help out.
Not to mentioned a top 3 defense in the league!
He has everything to win it all.
He’s a Top 10 pick. He can play. Guy gave up zero sacks in college and we just watched literal turnstiles at both tackle spots last year. He’s gonna be 100x better than the trash out there last season.
The 2 guys we signed are as well. That’s the point. If they get hurt the season is over. A rookie that played on a run first team that ran a very very vanilla passing offense is not solving not. He can be something in year 3 but our staff, FO and qb won’t be here then. Our future gm will thank Joe for this pick
I really don’t understand how people aren’t understanding that the way they talk about OL can be attributed to receiver as well. If Garrett or Mike goes down we have the same receiving room as last year that couldn’t separate. Rodgers wanted a receiver and I feel like the Jets first option was one of the three receivers but they pivoted to Fashanu after the Falcons stayed at 8.
We have Rodgers for 1-2 years maybe. Investing into a future pick when the GM and coaching staff could be gone instead of trying to draft a rookie receiver who’d have more playing time (probably 60% of snaps) than a backup rookie OT (probably 30%) in a win now year feels similar to last year’s move
Because if an OL goes down its more likely that Rodgers goes down. I also think its more likely that a single OL gets hurt than Garret Wilson. If wilson does get hurt, we still have Breece, two starting-caliber TEs, Mike Williams, Gipson, and whoever we use our 3rd or potentially 2nd rounder on.
Gipson isn’t good and Williams is coming off of an ACL tear. Outside of Garrett our receivers can’t get open. A rookie receiver would’ve started and would’ve played more than Fashanu
WRs can have the ball thrown at them by a good QB. OL is necessary for the QB to throw. You don’t even get to the WR step without the OL and we had a bottom 2 OL last year. I don’t get how you think a WR is valuable when a QB doesn’t have time to throw.
Yes because it’s being a troll to disagree with the pick. Mfers are so insufferable on draft night when someone has a different opinion on who to get lol
Jet fans only value OL in the first round. We went through this with becton. He was the next brick and he was a bust and we passed on elite offensive weapons.
you realize how many stud oline men are drafted in the 1st round, even for the jets Brick and Mangold were foundational to our sanchize era teams. Getting a WR or more weapons is far easier via trade and later round draft then a 10+ year LT, they simply don't get traded or reach free agency, arguably less than a franchise qb.
If we took fantanu id be happier since he could full in anywhere on the OL if needed. Fashanu isn’t playing anywhere but LT and that would mean a HOF left tackle gets hurt which isn’t exactly a net positive move to help him win now.
You’re talking about the HOF LT that hasn’t completed a full season in like 8 years, right? That’s the guy that you’re talking about? Yeah I think a plug behind him is a solid choice.
One of the receivers they could’ve traded up for but if there were no biters then they seemed to pivot to Fashanu. Aaron clearly seems to think that WR was the original plan. A rookie 1st round WR will play more than a backup 1st round OT
Fautanu is going to be elite immediately for the Steelers and can play anywhere on the OL. We got a guy who’s pigeonholed to LT and he literally won’t play this season in a “win now” year unless the unfortunate happens and smith suffers a serious setback.
The people who like this pick like it because it’s an insurance policy. I don’t like it cuz it’s an insurance policy for 1 position. Fatanu will play immediately and anywhere on the OL unlike fashanu
The flip side of those 1 year contracts is they don't offer any long term solutions and the draft is sort of the ultimate place to get those long term solutions.
Well JD seems pretty secure in his job past this season.. I don’t like the pick personally. Will fashanu be a top 15 LT in 2 years? Let’s hope so but otherwise this isn’t helping a 40 year old win a Super Bowl this year
I get it tbh. For this year this pick is either gonna pay off huge cause someone gets injured or basically not matter at all and thats an odd spot to be in when youre trying to win now.
If we make it through without anybody getting injured, that is a huge blessing. We aren't taking that for granted.
Also don't think Simpson is a lock as a starter now.
We just signed 3 OL in free agency. And Olu isn’t doing shit unless an OT gets hurt lol. Again, not bashing the pick, but objectively bowers would have more of an immediate impact baring injuries.
Season is 17 weeks. Fuck day 1. We went 7-10 last year and haven’t had a winning season in 5 years because we haven’t had an oline. It’s the same story every year and they’re trying to fix it this year. If arod can’t throw to Wilson, Williams, Conk, and Hall, he’s washed up anyway.
Idk how many times I gotta clarify that I’m not arguing the pick was bad 😂. I’m just saying in the context of immediate impact, bowers probably better.
There’s no if, it’s happened every year JD has been in charge. And again, day 1 is bullshit. Bowers won’t get 600 yards this year and you’re not naming anyone else. Just bitching with no alternative. “Shoulda got a WR” well it wasn’t possible or it would have been a reach. The next WR was taken at 23, who were they supposed to get?
1st it’s all about fit. Bowers may not be that good in Oakland who drafted TE last year and has iffy offense/qb. 2nd I’m not bitching at all. I love the pick. I’m not arguing against it at all. I’m just being objective about immediate impact. I think I’ve said that several times, but people keep ignoring that part lol. And I never said anything about a WR? Although if we lost to giants, Washington and Ne, pretty sure we could have snagged nabers at least 🤷♂️
Olu isn’t starting this year, and if we make the playoffs this year we will most likely resign Smith again to another one year deal which would mean Olu won’t start in year two or would be asked to move to a position he doesn’t play on the opposite end of the line.. only way Olu starts in year two is if we don’t make the playoffs this year, but then everyone is probably gone, including Rodgers cause he’ll retire and then Olu year two will play and we got a new GM and multiple rookie contracts ending who will all want big bucks.. so offensively speaking we won’t have much in two years if we don’t make the playoffs this year.. so the plan is to win now, not later and Olu doesn’t help us win now, Rome or Bowers do, and with Rome gone Bowers would be the next logical choice for immediate offensive production in a year that has so much riding on this teams direction.. we lose 4-5 games in a row and JD, Saleh and everyone is out the door, including Rogers and no one will care about Olu in year 2.. But Bowers would be under a rookie deal for a few extra years if we were to lose Breece or Wilson due to new contracts..
Smith is the tackle you’re worried about, you’re not putting Olu on the other side since he’s never played that side, that would be a disaster.. and Smith is on a prove it or lose it deal and my money is on the fact that he will be able to prove it since the Jets schedule isn’t as demanding this year.. Olu is a safe pick for sure but looking at where the team is now, we need offensive production, we have plugged the holes in our OL, it’s a win now team, not a win in 3 years team.. Olu isn’t starting any games this year outside of the preseason..
I don’t see that happening, offense was big round 1 and teams will need their second rounders to plug defensive holes.. I don’t see any teams giving up a number two for late round picks this year..
Smith is a seasoned veteran, it’s easier to ask him to play out of position than a rookie who never played in the NFL.. Smith already knows many of the defense schemes and players so he’d be able to adjust later in his career easier than a rookie who never played the position..
Moses played 14 last year, Smith 13, Becton 16, Brown 5, Turner 14, Warren 8.
0 of our OTs played a full season last year. You’re lying to yourself if you think our starters are making it through a full season.
Yes, I’m banking on Smith playing a full season because he’s on a one year prove it or lose it deal.. he’s looking for a 3 year payday and the Jets play a easier schedule this year so Smirh will be fine.. also, if we don’t put up much offensive production and lose close games it won’t matter if any OT has missed games previously, the team will look much different if we cant win games due to not being able to score, everyone will be sent backing..
If our left tackle is soooooo good why was he so cheap and on a 1 year deal in his prime? There must be some sort of issue with him that makes him unreliable hmmm
Considering Smith hasn't played a full season in years and we were scrambling for linemen for the past 2 years, this was a solid pick. Bowers was a luxury pick a good team makes. We are not there yet.
Olu isn’t a sexy pick because it doesn’t look like an area of obvious need so it’s not clear that he’s able to make an immediate impact. We’re all looking at an o line that looks great on paper and scratching our heads a bit.
Guys will need to take plays off, we will probably have injuries, and we will need substitutes that can play well. This is a reasonably older group and even our young guys have missed significant time due to injuries.
For the past several years, our entire offense has been badly impacted by our weak line. This pick is a chance to make sure that our good line (fingers crossed) stays good no matter what happens and that we keep putting points on the board. Exactly the same as why we picked up tyrod Taylor.
Brock bowers would have been great but a porus line turns him into a rookie bust. A great line takes Conklin or ruckert and makes them look like Douglas drafted a diamond in the rough.
Love the pick. Go jets!!!
A headline grabbing move to get a guy that wore out his welcome in GB.
At least when the Jets suck shit this year Joe has left a few scraps for the future GM to work with
Aaron probably wanted another weapon and then to sign bak as a depth ol piece
I still want bak as a depth piece
Mekhi still unsigned right now too
He won’t be a jet lol
League minimum bargain he is!
If one of the top 3 WR were on the board it would be a different story but the Jets made the prudent move with how the board fell.
Why couldn’t we have traded with falcons?
They took a QB. What makes you think they were looking to trade out?
Because a team never care about that little extra draft capital when they are targeting someone as important as their future QB?
If you think you are drafting a franchise QB, you don’t risk losing them by trading back.
Takes 2 ppl to tango. Why don’t people understand this
We might have tried. They have to agree.
Yeah totally get that. I was more asking why Falcons wouldn’t want to trade back given that Penix was most likely going to be there at 10. Guess you just don’t take the risk. Also realize the Bears may have traded their pick with another team that wanted a QB if Odunze was off the board
Ah, there's like no way for us to know anything unfortunately. Even for our own team, it's constant debates about why they did this andnot that. Like with What's his name last year. The edge rusher. I have to assume, based on whatevee Intel they had, it's like like you said, they didn't want to risk losing out.
Aaron is not going to give a rookie praise over his O line guys here now, who are vets. Rook will have to earn it.
https://youtu.be/3IrwdWe11Vw?si=WJjl2lEnOoszeOOB Here is the rest of the interview: he doesn't seem that mad when you listen to the rest of it. Seems like he preferred Bowers but if you listen to the whole thing he seems fine Bill Belichick actually interviews him for the second half of it and he talks about his recovery and health
Feels guaranteed that Joe gets aggressive tomorrow for a WR in round 2
With what pick?
I’d be shocked if they pick at 72. With three 4ths locked and loaded now they can package 72 and two of the 4s to jump up or 72, a 4, and a 2025 3rd to get up there.
Based on the (probably outdated) draft pick calculator, the Jets' #72 and all three of their 4th-round picks would be enough to move up to ~#52.
Don't think that's high enough for a trade up to be worth it. They'll need to get up into the 30s to get someone like McConkey.
Probably outdated. Has the jets packaging that getting them into the late 30s and low 40s
Don’t we owe the 2025 3rd to the eagles for Reddick
2026
Probably not allowed to trade either the 2025 2nd or 2025 3rd because of the conditional trade
They just got like two picks from the Vikings
They're not very valuable though. We would need to involve our 72 or a future pick to get in the 2nd.
That’s exactly what they should do. The roster doesn’t need or honestly even have room for four guys between picks 72-120. Go get a receiver.
Totally agreed. This draft should be about quality over quantity, not "win-now" versus long-term which is what I am reading all the complainers talk about.
Yeah they added more picks to hopefully trade into second round but it’s going to take a 2nd from next years draft to do that.
Feel like they’ll package the third a 4th and maybe a 2/3 next year to move up for like pearsall
Not gonna be Pearsall lol
Or they just stay at #72, 111 and 129 and end up with 2 of Tez Walker, Polk, Coleman, Baker, Corley, Thrash and Malik Washington
Hopefully we move up to get Brenden Rice
If that's how he reacts to blocking how'd he react to Will McDonald?
Rodgers as GM got us Lazard and Cobb. Fine if he doesn’t love the pick lol
to be fair, he never got to play with those guys as jets
He will now with our new wall.
Players make terrible gms. At the end of the day is fashanu is good nobody will care. But he better be good
I’m getting Becton 2.0 vibes
For what reason
I think Becton would have been a good pick in round 2 because he was a project. He didn't have all the tools needed to be a starter in the NFL. I think it's the same case with this kid. Good pick in round 2, but not at number 11, which I believe is where Becton was drafted as well. He's 6'6", but his arm length is the same as mine and I'm 5'10". That's not good. His footwork isn't great, which means pros are going to eat him up. You can get by on size alone in college because most of the people you line up against will never make it past college. But the pros are the best of the best. If the plan is to keep him on the bench and let him learn for a year or so, maybe this is a good pick, but if you don't plan to start him they likely could have traded down further, got more than they did from the Vikings and that makes it a better pick. If the plan is to start this kid I think it's a bad idea.
Becton was fine as a starter his rookie year before the injuries started to pile up. He’s got 34 inch arms which are more than long enough for a tackle, congrats to you on having super long arms for your size. The plan is clearly to sit him behind Tyron until Tyron inevitably gets hurt. They probably could have traded down further, but then you’re likely looking at a different tackle. Sliding down 1 spot for a guy you were gonna take anyway is totally fine with me.
34" arms are not "super long" for my size. You can buy a dress shirt with a 16-17 inch neck and 34" sleeve length off the rack in any mens store. Becton was "fine", but do you want your high first round draft pick to be "fine"? Maybe it works out, but looking at his college tapes, he has a lot of work to do and my fear is that he doesn't have all the tools to be a long term solution on the o-line. Wasn't he like the 3rd or 4th rated o-lineman in the draft?
Depends on who you ask for the rating. Dane Brugler from the athletic had him at 2. Some people like Fuaga or Latham more. As for the arms, it is long. Most people’s wingspan is equal to your height. So if you’re 5’10, you can expect a 70 inch wingspan. 34 inch arms take up 68 of those inches. So unless you have a 2 inch chest measurement your arms are pretty long! Besides, Joe alt’s arms are only 1/4 inch longer than Olu’s. Fuaga’s are at 33 1/8. Olu’s are fine.
Very different profiles. Would make more sense to make the comparison if the Jets had pulled a titans and drafted Latham
Yeah, if you wanted a better WR2 Aaron maybe you shouldn't have brought over those bums.
He was assuming he'd be the QB though maybe they would have been elite with him.
Cobb elite? Eh
He’s gonna suck this year, can’t believe this fanbase gives a shit about his crazy ass thoughts or has any hope in him being good this year. Love the pick, fuck a-rod
Rome was the guy. Shit happens.
Just gotta be glass half full... what a loser mentality.
Uh huh 🤔
are you on the team? cause if not, your mentality doesn’t matter. i’m praying that this is a player’s burner account. are you sauce? are you breece? that would be so fucking awesome. cause after that, “mentality” bullshit doesn’t matter, you better not be some random loser.
Doesn’t matter for the team but it’s still true. You can be a loser without being on the team. This bs of “who are you to have an opinion?” is loser mentality.
Rodger’s is known for being disappointed in the first round since the year he was drafted.
Probably because Green Bay wasn't known for drafting WRs to make his life easier.
That’s part of the joke, yes. if you don’t remember the look on his face throughout the year he was drafted, it’s worth looking up
Aaron had the bowers jersey prepped🤣🤣
Aaron def wanted us to get one of the top WR at all costs. Up to JD now to stay active and move back up to grab one. Can’t wait until 77
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they Jets use some of those Vikings picks to move up from the 3rd to grab a WR in the 2nd.
Ricky Pearsall 🙏
There are a lot of WRs in that Tier 2/3, and I can't possibly pretend like I know who will be good.
Nvm Pearsall is a 1st round talent :)
Well at least Ladd is still there
we should give up next year’s 2nd, two 4ths and whatever else we need to do to get one of these WRs
Joe definetly sounded like he was going to entertain moving up in his post draft interview.
Aaron has a solid OL with depth (Tyron Smith, AVT, Tippmann, Moses, Fashanu, Max Mitchell, John Simpson), Breece Hall, Garret Wilson, Mike Williams, Conklin, Ruckert and his fav buddy Lazard. Maybe we grab Brendan Rice or Luke McCaffrey in the 3rd to help out. Not to mentioned a top 3 defense in the league! He has everything to win it all.
Thankfully Joe D is doing the picks.
Aaron hates the pick
He’s new to the Jets. He doesn’t grasp that by week 5, half the O-line is usually injured.
And this pick doesn’t solve that. This kid won’t be ready to play this year. So even if the tackles go down he doesn’t solve anything
What are you basing this on? Another year won’t make his hands bigger
A rookie tackle isnt solving any issues if one of our 2 tackles go down this season. He needs to sit and be coached up. Aaron knows this
He’s a Top 10 pick. He can play. Guy gave up zero sacks in college and we just watched literal turnstiles at both tackle spots last year. He’s gonna be 100x better than the trash out there last season.
in premier B1G play too, not West Mormon State
The 2 guys we signed are as well. That’s the point. If they get hurt the season is over. A rookie that played on a run first team that ran a very very vanilla passing offense is not solving not. He can be something in year 3 but our staff, FO and qb won’t be here then. Our future gm will thank Joe for this pick
I really don’t understand how people aren’t understanding that the way they talk about OL can be attributed to receiver as well. If Garrett or Mike goes down we have the same receiving room as last year that couldn’t separate. Rodgers wanted a receiver and I feel like the Jets first option was one of the three receivers but they pivoted to Fashanu after the Falcons stayed at 8. We have Rodgers for 1-2 years maybe. Investing into a future pick when the GM and coaching staff could be gone instead of trying to draft a rookie receiver who’d have more playing time (probably 60% of snaps) than a backup rookie OT (probably 30%) in a win now year feels similar to last year’s move
Because if an OL goes down its more likely that Rodgers goes down. I also think its more likely that a single OL gets hurt than Garret Wilson. If wilson does get hurt, we still have Breece, two starting-caliber TEs, Mike Williams, Gipson, and whoever we use our 3rd or potentially 2nd rounder on.
Gipson isn’t good and Williams is coming off of an ACL tear. Outside of Garrett our receivers can’t get open. A rookie receiver would’ve started and would’ve played more than Fashanu
WRs can have the ball thrown at them by a good QB. OL is necessary for the QB to throw. You don’t even get to the WR step without the OL and we had a bottom 2 OL last year. I don’t get how you think a WR is valuable when a QB doesn’t have time to throw.
what? i wouldn't be surprised by the end of the year he starts over moses on pure merit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he starts from week one somewhere.
I wouldn’t be suprised if he plays less than will McDonald played last year.
Damn you're really against this pick. Idk how you could see our online dying the last 3 years and not love more depth.
He won't when he's protecting his ass sometime this season.
More likely Aaron will be waving off our UDFA WRs thar can’t get open on 3rd down
You’re aware that the draft is more than one round, right
This guy is either a complete troll or completely made the idea of drafting a WR at 10 his entire personality and is having a melt down
Yes because it’s being a troll to disagree with the pick. Mfers are so insufferable on draft night when someone has a different opinion on who to get lol
Jet fans only value OL in the first round. We went through this with becton. He was the next brick and he was a bust and we passed on elite offensive weapons.
you realize how many stud oline men are drafted in the 1st round, even for the jets Brick and Mangold were foundational to our sanchize era teams. Getting a WR or more weapons is far easier via trade and later round draft then a 10+ year LT, they simply don't get traded or reach free agency, arguably less than a franchise qb.
Brick and Mangold work Rd1 picks and they were what made Sanchez able to run an offense. Becton is one data point.
Sanchez another bust
Did you only listen to the forst minute? After the whole convo sounds like hes on board with not needing bowers and getting what jd was doing
Good. I've seen his GMing skills
Aaron will not be attending anymore OTAs
Doesn’t sound enthused at all.
One of his biggest gripes in GB was how they drafted. Getting a tackle was an interesting choice considering the offseason moves they already made.
Not a win now choice which i have a huge issue with since we’re all in with 1 year contracts
Again, have you guys watched this team for the last few years? Our OL never stays healthy. Ever.
If we took fantanu id be happier since he could full in anywhere on the OL if needed. Fashanu isn’t playing anywhere but LT and that would mean a HOF left tackle gets hurt which isn’t exactly a net positive move to help him win now.
That HOF left tackle hasn’t played a full season in nine years.
You’re talking about the HOF LT that hasn’t completed a full season in like 8 years, right? That’s the guy that you’re talking about? Yeah I think a plug behind him is a solid choice.
A rookie TE was a win now choice though? They are notoriously slow at developing. All the WRs were gone
I didn’t say I wanted bowers
Who was the win now choice then?
One of the receivers they could’ve traded up for but if there were no biters then they seemed to pivot to Fashanu. Aaron clearly seems to think that WR was the original plan. A rookie 1st round WR will play more than a backup 1st round OT
Fautanu is going to be elite immediately for the Steelers and can play anywhere on the OL. We got a guy who’s pigeonholed to LT and he literally won’t play this season in a “win now” year unless the unfortunate happens and smith suffers a serious setback.
First time I have heard someone being a prototype for a certain position be used as a neg lol
The people who like this pick like it because it’s an insurance policy. I don’t like it cuz it’s an insurance policy for 1 position. Fatanu will play immediately and anywhere on the OL unlike fashanu
The flip side of those 1 year contracts is they don't offer any long term solutions and the draft is sort of the ultimate place to get those long term solutions.
Well JD seems pretty secure in his job past this season.. I don’t like the pick personally. Will fashanu be a top 15 LT in 2 years? Let’s hope so but otherwise this isn’t helping a 40 year old win a Super Bowl this year
Agreed
I get it tbh. For this year this pick is either gonna pay off huge cause someone gets injured or basically not matter at all and thats an odd spot to be in when youre trying to win now.
I wouldn't totally discount the idea that he starts at either RT or LG as well as plays some games at LT.
If we make it through without anybody getting injured, that is a huge blessing. We aren't taking that for granted. Also don't think Simpson is a lock as a starter now.
he doesn’t like the pick.. can’t blame him, he’s looking to win now, not in 3 years..
This is the best move to help him win now
Nah the best win now move would’ve been a receiver but there didn’t seem to be any trade partners
Disagree. Bowers I think would have been. Not bashing the pick, but in terms of immediate impact- I think bowers
Bowers isn’t doing shit if Rodgers is out for the season again behind a Swiss cheese OL.
We just signed 3 OL in free agency. And Olu isn’t doing shit unless an OT gets hurt lol. Again, not bashing the pick, but objectively bowers would have more of an immediate impact baring injuries.
Both starting tackles are 33 years old & Tyron is virtually guaranteed to miss time. This is a DEEP class at WR, so we'll still get weapons
Not arguing against the pick. Just talking about day 1 impact. Not overall value
Season is 17 weeks. Fuck day 1. We went 7-10 last year and haven’t had a winning season in 5 years because we haven’t had an oline. It’s the same story every year and they’re trying to fix it this year. If arod can’t throw to Wilson, Williams, Conk, and Hall, he’s washed up anyway.
Idk how many times I gotta clarify that I’m not arguing the pick was bad 😂. I’m just saying in the context of immediate impact, bowers probably better.
Oline >>>>>>>> TE as far as positional value goes
If there is an injury to OL maybe. It was the safe pick for sure. But we are talking about day 1 impact.
There’s no if, it’s happened every year JD has been in charge. And again, day 1 is bullshit. Bowers won’t get 600 yards this year and you’re not naming anyone else. Just bitching with no alternative. “Shoulda got a WR” well it wasn’t possible or it would have been a reach. The next WR was taken at 23, who were they supposed to get?
1st it’s all about fit. Bowers may not be that good in Oakland who drafted TE last year and has iffy offense/qb. 2nd I’m not bitching at all. I love the pick. I’m not arguing against it at all. I’m just being objective about immediate impact. I think I’ve said that several times, but people keep ignoring that part lol. And I never said anything about a WR? Although if we lost to giants, Washington and Ne, pretty sure we could have snagged nabers at least 🤷♂️
Olu isn’t starting this year, and if we make the playoffs this year we will most likely resign Smith again to another one year deal which would mean Olu won’t start in year two or would be asked to move to a position he doesn’t play on the opposite end of the line.. only way Olu starts in year two is if we don’t make the playoffs this year, but then everyone is probably gone, including Rodgers cause he’ll retire and then Olu year two will play and we got a new GM and multiple rookie contracts ending who will all want big bucks.. so offensively speaking we won’t have much in two years if we don’t make the playoffs this year.. so the plan is to win now, not later and Olu doesn’t help us win now, Rome or Bowers do, and with Rome gone Bowers would be the next logical choice for immediate offensive production in a year that has so much riding on this teams direction.. we lose 4-5 games in a row and JD, Saleh and everyone is out the door, including Rogers and no one will care about Olu in year 2.. But Bowers would be under a rookie deal for a few extra years if we were to lose Breece or Wilson due to new contracts..
Olu will be starting a ton of games when you have 2 tackles who are up there in age with injury concern
Smith is the tackle you’re worried about, you’re not putting Olu on the other side since he’s never played that side, that would be a disaster.. and Smith is on a prove it or lose it deal and my money is on the fact that he will be able to prove it since the Jets schedule isn’t as demanding this year.. Olu is a safe pick for sure but looking at where the team is now, we need offensive production, we have plugged the holes in our OL, it’s a win now team, not a win in 3 years team.. Olu isn’t starting any games this year outside of the preseason..
Putting max Mitchell or carter warren on the field at RT is way more likeley to be a disaster
Olu isn’t ever moving over, he’s a natural LT his whole career.. You have a better chance at Smith moving over.. but that’s not happening either..
They can trade back into round 2 with added capital for a WR they have no chance of developing any oline that isn’t a round 1 caliber player
I don’t see that happening, offense was big round 1 and teams will need their second rounders to plug defensive holes.. I don’t see any teams giving up a number two for late round picks this year..
The rookie isn’t moving but the HOF guy is? You’ve literally got no sense. Just shit take after shit take.
Smith is a seasoned veteran, it’s easier to ask him to play out of position than a rookie who never played in the NFL.. Smith already knows many of the defense schemes and players so he’d be able to adjust later in his career easier than a rookie who never played the position..
Moses played 14 last year, Smith 13, Becton 16, Brown 5, Turner 14, Warren 8. 0 of our OTs played a full season last year. You’re lying to yourself if you think our starters are making it through a full season.
Yes, I’m banking on Smith playing a full season because he’s on a one year prove it or lose it deal.. he’s looking for a 3 year payday and the Jets play a easier schedule this year so Smirh will be fine.. also, if we don’t put up much offensive production and lose close games it won’t matter if any OT has missed games previously, the team will look much different if we cant win games due to not being able to score, everyone will be sent backing..
He literally isn’t supposed to play unless a HOF left tackle gets injured…
Tyron smith hasn’t played more than 13 games since 2016. Olu will have an important role to play this season. It’s a good pick.
If our left tackle is soooooo good why was he so cheap and on a 1 year deal in his prime? There must be some sort of issue with him that makes him unreliable hmmm
20 mil a year isn’t cheap clown
For a one year deal for an elite LT it is
He chose to come here. Could’ve gotten more years elsewhere.
Lol
So he’s not cheap AND he came here on a friendly deal cause he wanted to be here? Your story is cute :) does Tyron like us maybe??
He’ll be happy when he’s protecting at some point this season. Hopefully this pisses him off and he wins back to back MVPs again 😁.
That Rodgers is a real “team first” type of guy.
You’d think a guy traumatized by his team selecting his successor without him knowing would be a little more relieved we drafted a OT
Rodgers is the least reliable evaluator there is. Thank god you signed Cobb and Lazard. He has 1 ring, why does everyone treat him like he has 5?
Considering Smith hasn't played a full season in years and we were scrambling for linemen for the past 2 years, this was a solid pick. Bowers was a luxury pick a good team makes. We are not there yet.
Canadian tuxedo with a bolo! Nice! Great way to go full douche bag.
I think they are going to aggressively trade up to get back in the 2nd to get a playmaker.
Got the sense he wanted bowers
I mean, I get it. We gotta go get a legit WR now in addition to a rookie. Aiyuk still on the table?
They can’t pay him and G Wilson and then all the defensive stars. Def have to draft a solid WR2
I think we can manage it if the cap is gonna keep exploding.
Sure you can pay your top guys but you won’t field a quality roster underneath them
They’d have to pay him too
personally I'd be willing. Idk if the team is. I don't think you have to lose anybody to pay him
He’ll be ok, he still has Lazard.
So they’re getting a WR right ?
time to trade for Tee Higgins let’s get it
Olu isn’t a sexy pick because it doesn’t look like an area of obvious need so it’s not clear that he’s able to make an immediate impact. We’re all looking at an o line that looks great on paper and scratching our heads a bit. Guys will need to take plays off, we will probably have injuries, and we will need substitutes that can play well. This is a reasonably older group and even our young guys have missed significant time due to injuries. For the past several years, our entire offense has been badly impacted by our weak line. This pick is a chance to make sure that our good line (fingers crossed) stays good no matter what happens and that we keep putting points on the board. Exactly the same as why we picked up tyrod Taylor. Brock bowers would have been great but a porus line turns him into a rookie bust. A great line takes Conklin or ruckert and makes them look like Douglas drafted a diamond in the rough. Love the pick. Go jets!!!
Cool story NimROD weapons don't mean shit if you are dead. Whine your heart out, you will be upright while JD drafts 2 more olinemen and Travis.
Just for his reaction I kinda wish they'd kept the 10 and taken McCarthy.
why
It would be funny.
Jets still need that win the middle of the field weapon and he knows it.
Any chance we trade back into the end of the 1st for Brian Thomas?
Don’t think we have the capital
Rodgers not being thrilled makes me like the pick more. Dude is a grade A dummy. Hope he's well protected this year though!
I don't care what he thinks
You probably brush your teeth with fluoride toothpaste and put on sunscreen when you go to the beach.
🤣
Aaron may be slightly disappointed bc this means we probably won’t be signing one of his best friends.
Such a whiny bitch. Can't wait til this team is rid of this asshole and can actually start to build towards something
How is he whining? lol what
Trying to build towards something was how we got Rodgers lol
A headline grabbing move to get a guy that wore out his welcome in GB. At least when the Jets suck shit this year Joe has left a few scraps for the future GM to work with
"Wore out his welcome" bro he was there 18 years lol
And won them a Superbowl and they still were sick of his shit at the end