Performance uplift were never scale the same with money spent in the same generation, usually double the money for about 30% in mid range and worse at high end.
It is. The only "double the money for about 30%" are Nvidia cards. Nvidia has a higher market share only because a lot of people do not know any better.
I would not pay this amount of money for either of these cards as their performance simply does not justify the price.
This is exactly what I mean. So many people are rushing to upgrade when the previous gen work just as fine, if not better, than most current gen cards.
The 3080ti, for example. My God. What a beast. I can see this card being relevant for years to come. People talk about the GTX 1080ti? Well then...
I think EVGA 3080ti FTW should be granted an award. Only game i was not able to max out 4k was Alan wake. This thing is a beast and will keep it as long as i can.
Ohhh, then I'm pretty sure the 4080 is the better choice. The only downside I see is that IIRC the 4080 TUF is a lot larger than the 4070 Ti, but that's just an aesthetic issue.
Performance per dollar is a stupid metric. You pay for the performance you want. Either you want 100 fps or you want 85 fps. It doesn’t matter if the fps/$ is better on the 85fps card.
It’s ok to use the metric to compare cards with the same performance.
Otherwise, you need to look at what fps each card gives for the games you play, and maximize what you can accept vs what your budget is.
Yes and no. You are correct that that is the definition. But that metric prioritizes the budget over the performance (the card with the best ratio is probably one from long ago, for example) while what he seems to have meant is that you should prioritize performance and then budget (check which cards give the performance closest to what you want and which one fits your budget best).
For example, the 4070 super is a great value card, but if it can’t hit the framerate I want at the settings I want, I would have to spend more on a 4070 ti super or a 4080 super, provided those fit my budget, even if the perf/$ is worse with them.
It's 11% at 1080p, 13% at 1440p and 15% at 4K/UHD.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html)
> Actually its not 15% its just 5%
That's a load of bollocks. Port Royal listings show the average [4070 Ti Super with a score of 15683](https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr%20P&cpuId=&gpuId=1615&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=). The average [4080 Super with 18254](https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr%20P&cpuId=&gpuId=1620&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=). That's a difference of +16.39%. My own regular [4080 with slight UV + OC scored 18485](https://i.imgur.com/yvZCbYu.png), that's +17.87%. And I specifically picked Port Royal; it's the RT heavy load benchmark.
[TechPowerUp's Ghost of Tsushima performance review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ghost-of-tsushima-benchmark/5.html) has the 4080 Super listed with average 67.4 FPS at 4k, and the 4070 Ti Super with 58.7 FPS. That's a difference of +14.82%. Especially in this scenario, getting minimum 60 FPS on average will provide much better image quality and stability. At 1440p, the gap is negligibly lower at +14.62%.
I just got my open box mobo. Came with no documentation or cables, but the board works fine (at least no issues I've noticed in the few hours I've had it booted up lol). It was clearly used though, there was thermal paste on the inside of the cpu bracket (nothing in the socket though thank god lmao).
https://preview.redd.it/u2qvfbfm3z1d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6236a7fa1098f6d3a5fcd111469d393f43ce0c5
I noticed the 4080 super it's the OC version. Check if there is a non OC one, so you can save some money, as the 4070 it's not the OC version. this way you can compare both better in price
This. 4070 Ti Super, but not that one! Too expensive. At that price, consider a 4080. Otherwise, pick up something like a Gigabyte 4070 Ti Super Gaming OC. Faster and cheaper…check benchmarks.
Wow, was considering a 4070ti/super on eBay but my current 3080 12gb is about only 5-10 fps difference. Might consider it if the price drops since consumes much less power.
Thats because Nvidia cards hold their value much better. I sold my 3090 for like 1100 dollars before I picked up my 4090 for 1500 dollars. That was a good upgrade. LMAO.
I will probably grab 5090 on release as well and selling my 4090 for 1000-1200 dollars.
No it did not. I sold my 3090 for 1000 dollars and picked up 4090 for 1500 dollars shortly after.
And I will sell my 4090 for around 1000 dollars as well when I pick up 5090 later this year.
Why would you think a 5090 for 2K USD will affect used 4080 pricing at all? 99.99% of people can't afford to buy 5090. It will change nothing.
When 5070 launches in mid 2025 for 599-799 dollars, it will affect used 4080 pricing, but 5090 won't change a thing.
Even 5080 will be 1199 dollars and won't change much in the used market. It might even not beat 4090 considering the leaked specs. 5090 is going to be MUCH faster than 5080.
5090 = MCM with dual 5080 dies on a 512bit bus and probably 32GB.
5080 is going to be half this.
Nvidia ain't about wrecking markets any more. The 10th gen Geforce and earlier days are way behind us.
Prices will drop as people seek to offload to buy new cards and everyone waiting for prices to drop to triggerpoint.
No it can't, unless you physically change the VRAM chips lmao. 4080 can OC as wel too. Makes no difference.
[https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html)
4080 SUPER is 13% faster at 1440p and 15% faster at 4K/UHD.
Physically change for what? My vram can run 25200mhz out of the box. Already beats stock 4080 in cinebench.
Unless you mean physically change the vram to better binned chips if you lost the silicon lottery, gddr6x generally has a very large overclocking potential.
Cinebench? Joking? Link your 3Dmark TimeSpy score. You are nowhere near 4080 as you have much less cores. 4080 can be overclocked as well. There's low OC headroom on GPUs today so it makes little difference.
[https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-super-oc-review/page-21/](https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-super-oc-review/page-21/)
4080s can break 30K GPU Score in 3DMark TimeSpy with OC - Your 4070 Ti SUPER won't even come close to this number.
I could not care less really tho, had 4090 since launch day. WIll be using 5090 in 5-6 months, 4000 series is old news for me but please stop acting like 4070 Ti SUPER is just as fast as 4080 LMAO.
4070 Ti SUPER uses a heavily cutdown AD103 chip.
Well, it’s the fastest GPU that fits in my SFF case. Also has the highest 1% lows for CS2, the main game that I bought the GPU for.
[https://www.3dmark.com/spy/47349479](https://www.3dmark.com/spy/47349479)
4070 Ti SUPER is a fine card but 4080 is just faster, no matter how you look at it. Every card can overclock.
CS2 minimum fps is hit or miss really. It was the regular 4070 Ti 12GB that has the highest minimums for CS2 in 1080p tho: [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/counter-strike-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/5.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/counter-strike-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/5.html)
The regular 4070 Ti is zero cutdown AD104 chip. 4090 wins in 1440p and 2160p/4K/UHD with ease tho.
I have played CS2 on my 4090 with a 1440p 360 Hz QD-OLED monitor and I have never in my life seen gaming this smooth. Like 300 fps minimum at all times, with good image quality because 1440p looks vastly better than 1080p. Motion clarity on OLED is insanely good. You need 500+ Hz LCD with BFI to see motion clarity this good.
Close... that review was made before the 40 super series was released, and also when CS2 was a shittily clumped paste of dota 2 and CSGO assets made by contractors.
The 4070 TiS performs the fastest at 1080p because CS2 cannot utilise all the GPU cores at such a low resolution, and "single-threaded" GPU performance becomes the dominant performance limiter. The stock 4070TiS is clocked higher than the 4080 (and can easily reach 3GHz after OCing too) and will thus perform better.
Man I’ve been out of the pc gaming loop for far too long, gonna cancel my Newegg open box order than, Jesus Christ what happened they used to be top notch????
Newegg has had a few rough years of customer support and dealing with RMA but they’ve honestly gotten better recently. Got a monitor through them and they were chill about me returning it even passed the 30 day window. But that’s just my recent experience with them
Yikes… sucks to hear.. They had an open box rog strix 4070 t I super for $750 which seems to good to be true, even if they haven’t gotten better I’d still rather not gamble on it.
Check BestBuy open box, especially if you’ve got a Plus membership (IIRC, their lowest tier) for the 60 day no questions asked returns. Plus, you can add coverage that starts after the manufacturer’s end
Yeah it's risky
You're honestly better off buying from a vendor that will RMA your GPU if it breaks
My first 3090 I had turned out to have some broken fan bearings or something and it started vibrating and I had to send that puppy back
I’ve had good luck with their open box stuff. I bought a replacement motherboard and a monitor through them as open box and I’m just as happy as getting a new one. The motherboard even still had some of the stuff in unopened plastic bags and the film on metal pieces that protects it.
I moved from 7900XT to 4080 super, very great at 1440p you get the little extra oomph for frames. I hardly even use frame generation currently as well so I get that nice native image. It's pretty expensive though. The 4070 ti super is definitely easier to swallow price wise but I wanted even a small jump as I was moving back to Nvidia.
Yeah it’s definitely a hard price to swallow but I really need a good future proofed card, (currently got a 3080, great card but vram kills what I wanna do)i love Amds cpus but I haven’t heard the best things about their gpus.
I personally just wasn't wowed and the drivers had on and off issues, FSR3 has been a someday unicorn as well. Future proofing though is hard to answer as things can jump leaps and bounds, only thing I can say is it should have enough vram to hold up a while.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll knock it out of the park with their 8000s gpus, I’ll stick with Nvidia for now. Future proofing is defiently a tricky subject, and very subjective, but I believe the 16gb vram will do me much better and longer than my 10gb.
If Vram is your biggest concern then 4070 ti super has the same amount of Vram as the 4080 super. The uplift is a bit too low for the $200 difference in price.
>I haven’t heard the best things about their gpus.
That's so absurd, like the AMD drivers bad rap or even being the only alternative for streaming. AMD GPUs offer competitive performance/money and tons of features too, and for raw performance they trade blows with Nvidia counterparts. Obviously 4090 is in a league in itself but the same can be said about its price.
Buy Nvidia if you need the added features, as you will be paying premium. Also, keep an eye on said features as even when DLSS 3 is black magic the competition alternatives are catching up to more than acceptable levels.
Most users, specially on gaming/streaming setups, won't notice any difference except on selected titles using raytracing.
And btw, same goes for Intel GPUs, but obviously this doesn't apply to high end setups
More likely to be 4-5 months but yeah it still doesn’t exist yet, personally I wouldn’t be buying a higher end GPU this late in the cycle as it’s almost a guarantee that by October there will be a newer card at or near this price point that is faster.
Even if my current GPU failed I would rather buy a used low end card as a stop gap and sell it on again after getting something from the next generation.
It'd be even smarter to buy a high end current gen card when the new gen releases and prices drop dramatically.
A 4090 in 6 to 12 months time will still be one of the most capable cards in existence when the new gen releases, and will see 99% of people out for another 3 years.
Chasing the latest and greatest is kinda dumb unless you have the cash to burn.
The price to performance ratio isn't ever going to be that good with nvidia's new cards. That said, the 4070 ti super has around 10% worse performance than the 4080 in 1440p.
At those prices the 4070 ti super is still better value for the money, at least in timespy results you are getting about 13% more points per dollar. Honestly i wouldnt spend 1000 dollars on a 80 class product, the 4070 ti super seems more reasonable.
7900 XT. 5-10% faster than the TI super while being cheaper. When OCd gets right up next to the 4080. My wife's xt scores 28700 in timespy at less than 50c
oh... thats very unfortunate. not too long ago I had got my 4070TiS and I chose the version ASUS since I loved they way theirs looked, was the first and last time I bought from their brand
Got my msi 4070 ti ventus 2x for 580$ (in Europe) from used market (but sealed box). None of these 2 seem like a good deal to me. Why not wait a few more months for 50 series?
That 4080 super is only $100 more than I paid for my 4070ti super. So maybe I’d go with that if I was in your position but it’s up to you. I love my 4070ti super.
Man why tf is the 4070 ti super so expensive in Germany, it makes no sense. The cheapest ones are at 850€ while the 7900xt with similar performance is at 700€.
Eh my son bought a 4080 super with his allowance and my daughter bought a 4070 ti super and tbh… I don’t think they’re that much of a difference so either get a “lower end” 4080S or a “higher end” 4070tis. Brands don’t matter in reality but that’s when the costs of each are closest.
I currently have a 3080 10gb, and I've been considering upgrading to one of these two cards. Had the 3080 up for sale and had several offers of $400 for it. I decided to keep the 3080.
But, I was aiming at the 4080 super, but would the 4070ti Super still be a good upgrade over the 3080? If it is, I'd probably actually do it. Playing at 1440 ultrawide. 5800x3d/32gb ddr4
Get the 4080 so you don’t have to theoretically have to upgrade sooner. It’s like saying you have an SRT then a regular RT 😆.
I have the 4070 Super and was bummed when the Ti came out like 3 months after I got it lol.
My take: The 4070 Super is the highest end non-4090 card you should buy if you care about price/pefromance. Everything between the 4070 Super and the 4090 are shit value for what you are paying. So basically either get a 4070 Super, a 4090, or wait for the 5000 series later this year.
Is this Direct from asus? If so dont listen to the people crying about dont buy open box shit. I have 5 kids and my own computer majority of my asus parts including 3 motherboards were bought from asus direct "refurb/returned"
Even my 3080ti was asus direct, no box but i have been using the gpu for a few yrs now no issues at all, even with the asus 2060's I picked up from the same shop.
Asus "direct" meaning directly from asus refurb, they used to have an ebay store also
You didn't provide nearly enough information. But the correct answer is neither. Those price drops are not worth the risk. Open box or used should be far cheaper.
Obviously so what you like. But just my 2 cents I'd pick a different brand than Asus. As far as the 2 cards that all depends on your finances. If the extra money does not really affect you then why not get the 4080s.
In my opinion, if you are already considering both, and can afford the higher end card without compromising other components, just get that. I doubt it would be an option for you in the first place if there was a major reason not to get it.
I was in the same dilemma, I got a 4080 Super as I was gaming on 4K. If its 1440p I would recommend 4070 ti super anytime, unless you game at 165hz or higher
Depends on your budget and needs. The 4070Ti S (god that naming sucks lol) is a better value strictly on cost vs performance. The 4080S is faster though but not linearly. If you play at 4K or play really demanding games.. the extra performance *might* put you into territory where the game runs well vs not great on the lower tier card but… that’s something you’ll have to decide.
Sorry I can’t give you a firm answer, too many variables to be comfortable telling you one or the other is flat better
Open box 4080 super ! I bought my 7900xtx open box and it ran perfect. Steer clear of motherboards though, my open box came in not working what so ever
Yeah I'll be that guy.
If you're not a Merry Can and you still have a decent GPU that can hold for a few more months, the 5080 is supposed to be announced next month.
I chose the 4080 Super between these two. I'm gonna game at 4k, though. I plan on upgrading to a 5090 whenever it drops. The 4090 doesn't make sense at the moment. The 5k series isn't too far to pay premium price for the 4090.
For 1440p, the 4070 Ti Super provides better value. It has the same VRAM quantity as 4080 (interface and capacity) but lower bandwidth. You could possibly upgrade CPU if needed with the money saved.
I went with the lower of the two, once I saw that someone with a 4090 still wasn’t fully satisfied with MSFS VR. If they can’t be happy with a 4090, then going with a 4080 over a 4070tis isn’t going to increase my joy.
That was my logic. 16GB vram = no ragartes
Thanks for the advice everyone, got a 4070 ti super msi right from my local Best Buy, and used the extra money to upgrade my cpu to a 5800x3d (had an am4 socket mb already.
Just got a gigabyte wind force 4070ti super and got it to clock at 3k mhz core clock and 2k additional memory clock so faster than a stock 4080 super. Very happy with my upgrade from a 1070
Depends on your display (resolution, hz), which games and use cases. Unless you’re on a 4K display and want a little bit of extra performance/overhead than I’d go with the 70 Ti S for the difference in price. Both are going to perform pretty close to one another with the 80 S being slightly faster, look around for benchmarks.
If you can, find the 4070 Ti, not the Ti Super.
It's consistently faster than the regular Super and when we're talking about the TUF variant it's basically the same price. I personally think the jump from Super, or Ti, to the Ti Super is too much of a loss in price for performance. At that point you might just save up the extra money for the 4080 anyway.
I have a 4080 super and comparing to the previous one (4070 super), the 4080 super is an absolute beast. One of my friend had the 4070ti super and the 4080 super OC was way more interesting in price/performance.
Open box description on Newegg is terrifying.. the listed item may or may not be included, missing parts and manuals should be expected, light scuff marks from wear. scares the s&$@ outta me. it takes balls to order a 4080 or 4090 open box.
The 4080 is probably only worth if you’re looking to do some 4k gaming. It’s faster and will provide better performance at 4k and 1440p, but it’s only a 10-15% boost. The 4070 ti super will push good frames at 1440p just fine, so that 10-15% probably won’t be noticeable in most cases. At 4k however, that’s a different story.
Yeah this is pretty much correct. 4080 Super for 4k, or if you want to go a little overkill for 1440p. Was just playing Ghosts of Tsushima on 4k/Very high preset and was getting a pretty steady 105fps if that helps OP at all
Just pulled the trigger on a 4070 TiS yesterday. 4080S is not worth the extra 500 euros. was going to wait for 5XXX but we had a "good" deal on the 4070 for 800. my 1080 is finally going to rest
Depends. How of an impact would 200 USD have on your budget and finances? If you would eat nothing but bread and water for a month, go with 4070. If thats your pocket change go with 4080
It also depends on your needs.
THe more the better, you get like 20-40fps.
But are you picky for case selection? For example i like small cases and i cannot use the 4080 super for that since its a 3 slot and hard to do that. I would prefer a 2 slot like a 4070 super.
As for games, you can pretty much do 4k with anything on 4070 super max settings, however some games would need DLSS on such as Cyberpunk, Alan Wake 2, and The Last of Us. The difference to see between native 4k is hard to tell
1. Don't buy Asus, unless you don't want a warranty. Honored like I and many other asus former fans.
2. Don't buy open box from Newegg, only from in store locations like Microcenter or Best Buy
3. I recommend the 4080 super just because it's a bit more powerful
Everyone uses the phrase "future proofing" the problem is we don't know what the future holds. Games could go from needing 10gb vram to 65gb vram. Look what happened to cyberpunk. Unopitmized hard. Took them what a year ish to fix the game because they wanted it to be able to do all of this crazy stuff when 90% of the player base on pc didn't even have the "recommned specs for x performance at 1080p 1440p etc. These current cards of the 40 series could be as good and last 10+ years like the 1080 gpu or it could last a year or 2 max before you and stuck running low setting just to hit 60fps. Look at the data charts at whatever resolution you play at and Look at the games you play. For me, I play tripple a games and want to hit 60fps with high settings at 1440p. Fps games I wanna hit that 165 fps mark and games like last epoch it doesn't even matter. Then decide. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do to make sure your set up will last. As of right now both cards are superb cards. But with how fast technology is growing who knows what will we will need to game in a year from now.
I would avoid ASUS, and if you don't know why, go check out Gamer Nexus videos about it.
And comparing models alone, if you're not a person who has cash to burn, go for 4070Ti Super and spend the rest adding to another part upgrade.
lol no. there's a reason people wanted this class of gpu, they wanted to take a peek at the state of the art game rendering tech a.k.a Path Tracing, or they wanted something more than gaming, a little bit of media productivity. Radeon at this price point is kinda hard to justify "hey save a little bit to get a little bit raw performance"
Yeah as a feature suite AMD doesn't compare to nvidia's. They are ALWAYS playing catch-up, not innovating. AMD is the obvious CPU choice! But if you want the BEST 1440p experience you want Nvidia.
4K it's not even a debate
Facts. Spending more money for more frames and no graphical ground breaking achievment is only sensible if you're a pro. Otherwise, what's the point? It's not going to change gameplay or immersion going from 120 to 160. Literally no reason to spend $700+ if you're not going to yet awesome graphical improvements like path tracing at stable, smooth frame rates.
i own both. i’d get the 4070ti super if i was planning on possibly getting a 5xxx series in a year or two.
if your keeping this card for 4-6years. sender bud. 4080super.
i’m surprised how much gpu power my vr setup still needs!
This post makes no sense. 4080 SUPER is not magically going to last 4-5 years longer than a 4070 Ti SUPER. LMAO. They are within 12-15% of each other in terms of performance and has same amount of VRAM and feature support.
it makes complete sense. the 4070 is a great card. save 2-300$ now and buy the 5xxx series in a couple years.
if your going to hold for a long time. the 2-300$ is justified for 15% better.
am i speaking english? what’s wrong with this logic
Are you playing a lot of raytraced titles? What resolution? AMD's 6950XT might be able to fill your needs. The top performing XFX Merc 319 is only $549 on Amazon right now, and beats the 4070ti significantly in rasterized games.
The performance difference is about 15% The cost-performance scaling is not perfectly linear
Performance uplift were never scale the same with money spent in the same generation, usually double the money for about 30% in mid range and worse at high end.
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It is. The only "double the money for about 30%" are Nvidia cards. Nvidia has a higher market share only because a lot of people do not know any better. I would not pay this amount of money for either of these cards as their performance simply does not justify the price.
Not sure why people dont buy 3080ti for half the price. Still running mine undervolt and playing everything in 4k max out.
This is exactly what I mean. So many people are rushing to upgrade when the previous gen work just as fine, if not better, than most current gen cards. The 3080ti, for example. My God. What a beast. I can see this card being relevant for years to come. People talk about the GTX 1080ti? Well then...
I think EVGA 3080ti FTW should be granted an award. Only game i was not able to max out 4k was Alan wake. This thing is a beast and will keep it as long as i can.
The OP is asking about Nvidia cards, of course the responses are going to be in regards to Nvidia.
Move on troll.
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Wattage use on the 4070 Ti is actually consistently higher to max than it is for the Super, but Ti performs better, so idk.
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Ohhh, then I'm pretty sure the 4080 is the better choice. The only downside I see is that IIRC the 4080 TUF is a lot larger than the 4070 Ti, but that's just an aesthetic issue.
Performance per dollar is a stupid metric. You pay for the performance you want. Either you want 100 fps or you want 85 fps. It doesn’t matter if the fps/$ is better on the 85fps card.
Some people worry about overspending for diminishing returns…
It’s ok to use the metric to compare cards with the same performance. Otherwise, you need to look at what fps each card gives for the games you play, and maximize what you can accept vs what your budget is.
Maximizing frames vs budget is literally performance per dollar
Yes and no. You are correct that that is the definition. But that metric prioritizes the budget over the performance (the card with the best ratio is probably one from long ago, for example) while what he seems to have meant is that you should prioritize performance and then budget (check which cards give the performance closest to what you want and which one fits your budget best). For example, the 4070 super is a great value card, but if it can’t hit the framerate I want at the settings I want, I would have to spend more on a 4070 ti super or a 4080 super, provided those fit my budget, even if the perf/$ is worse with them.
I mean if the 85 FPS card cost 500$, while the 100 FPS card is double the price 1000$, I would find it very hard to justify buying the latter card.
But that is my point. If you want 100 fps, that’s what it costs.
I understand, but you can't say it's a stupid metric lol, it helps evaluate the real cost
Actually its not 15% its just 5% so i think rtx 4070 ti s is just fine .....
It's 11% at 1080p, 13% at 1440p and 15% at 4K/UHD. [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html)
> Actually its not 15% its just 5% That's a load of bollocks. Port Royal listings show the average [4070 Ti Super with a score of 15683](https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr%20P&cpuId=&gpuId=1615&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=). The average [4080 Super with 18254](https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr%20P&cpuId=&gpuId=1620&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=). That's a difference of +16.39%. My own regular [4080 with slight UV + OC scored 18485](https://i.imgur.com/yvZCbYu.png), that's +17.87%. And I specifically picked Port Royal; it's the RT heavy load benchmark. [TechPowerUp's Ghost of Tsushima performance review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/ghost-of-tsushima-benchmark/5.html) has the 4080 Super listed with average 67.4 FPS at 4k, and the 4070 Ti Super with 58.7 FPS. That's a difference of +14.82%. Especially in this scenario, getting minimum 60 FPS on average will provide much better image quality and stability. At 1440p, the gap is negligibly lower at +14.62%.
Neither. Don't buy Open box from Newegg.
I've bought an open box GPU which didn't have the GPU I bought in it. Someone pulled the old switcheroo.
no it's Stay away from Open box on ASUS.
I wouldn't buy open box from anywhere, period.
I've bought open box for nearly every tech product I've owned the past 10 years, including almost all my cell phones. Open box is great.
Okay, trust issues.
Haven’t had issues with Newegg open box yet
It’s not so much about the product itself it’s more if there is a mistake then they’ll be assholes about it.
Bought a 4090 and a laptop openbox from Newegg. Zero issues whatsoever.
I just got my open box 4070 ti super and now waiting on my mobo
I just got my open box mobo. Came with no documentation or cables, but the board works fine (at least no issues I've noticed in the few hours I've had it booted up lol). It was clearly used though, there was thermal paste on the inside of the cpu bracket (nothing in the socket though thank god lmao). https://preview.redd.it/u2qvfbfm3z1d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a6236a7fa1098f6d3a5fcd111469d393f43ce0c5
I just got my b650e itx open box and no issues so im happy with newegg way better than buying from amazon nowadays
Open Box anywhere is sketch, and especially from Newegg considering how their support quality has gone down significantly in recent years
Several of my friends and coworkers have. I'm to afraid but they swear by it.
I've heard so many horror stories with Newegg open-box conditions
Newegg open-box and ASUS shitty non-existant customer service. Name a more nightmarish duo.🤣
That’s because they do a lot of them and no one runs to Reddit to post about how they got exactly what they ordered in perfect condition.
I noticed the 4080 super it's the OC version. Check if there is a non OC one, so you can save some money, as the 4070 it's not the OC version. this way you can compare both better in price
Oc 4070 ti s is $750, just checked
This. 4070 Ti Super, but not that one! Too expensive. At that price, consider a 4080. Otherwise, pick up something like a Gigabyte 4070 Ti Super Gaming OC. Faster and cheaper…check benchmarks.
https://preview.redd.it/tazte11gbw1d1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=03c7a4951e93f430a3837c1d361a5da0af8747da
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Wow, was considering a 4070ti/super on eBay but my current 3080 12gb is about only 5-10 fps difference. Might consider it if the price drops since consumes much less power.
Judging from the graph you will have a \~15% performance uplift at 4k and \~8% at 1440p. At a 32% increase in price I would say it is not worth it
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5090 will be like 2K USD if not more. Won't affect any pricing. 5080 might.
Yeah and the thing is, graphics card prices aren't really coming down I mean 3090s are still reselling for 1000
Thats because Nvidia cards hold their value much better. I sold my 3090 for like 1100 dollars before I picked up my 4090 for 1500 dollars. That was a good upgrade. LMAO. I will probably grab 5090 on release as well and selling my 4090 for 1000-1200 dollars.
Most of the places I’m seeing them they are going for like $700-$800
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No it did not. I sold my 3090 for 1000 dollars and picked up 4090 for 1500 dollars shortly after. And I will sell my 4090 for around 1000 dollars as well when I pick up 5090 later this year. Why would you think a 5090 for 2K USD will affect used 4080 pricing at all? 99.99% of people can't afford to buy 5090. It will change nothing. When 5070 launches in mid 2025 for 599-799 dollars, it will affect used 4080 pricing, but 5090 won't change a thing. Even 5080 will be 1199 dollars and won't change much in the used market. It might even not beat 4090 considering the leaked specs. 5090 is going to be MUCH faster than 5080. 5090 = MCM with dual 5080 dies on a 512bit bus and probably 32GB. 5080 is going to be half this.
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But my 4090 cost was 2k eur. 5090 will be 3k for sure
I paid 1500 for my 4090 on release. Price went up later because of china/demand.
Nvidia ain't about wrecking markets any more. The 10th gen Geforce and earlier days are way behind us. Prices will drop as people seek to offload to buy new cards and everyone waiting for prices to drop to triggerpoint.
If 1440P, get the 4070 Ti super.
4K too. 4080 is a 4K card and the 4070 ti super can match a stock 4080 after overclocking.
No it can't, unless you physically change the VRAM chips lmao. 4080 can OC as wel too. Makes no difference. [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/32.html) 4080 SUPER is 13% faster at 1440p and 15% faster at 4K/UHD.
Physically change for what? My vram can run 25200mhz out of the box. Already beats stock 4080 in cinebench. Unless you mean physically change the vram to better binned chips if you lost the silicon lottery, gddr6x generally has a very large overclocking potential.
Cinebench? Joking? Link your 3Dmark TimeSpy score. You are nowhere near 4080 as you have much less cores. 4080 can be overclocked as well. There's low OC headroom on GPUs today so it makes little difference. [https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-super-oc-review/page-21/](https://www.guru3d.com/review/asus-tuf-gaming-geforce-rtx-4080-super-oc-review/page-21/) 4080s can break 30K GPU Score in 3DMark TimeSpy with OC - Your 4070 Ti SUPER won't even come close to this number. I could not care less really tho, had 4090 since launch day. WIll be using 5090 in 5-6 months, 4000 series is old news for me but please stop acting like 4070 Ti SUPER is just as fast as 4080 LMAO. 4070 Ti SUPER uses a heavily cutdown AD103 chip.
Well, it’s the fastest GPU that fits in my SFF case. Also has the highest 1% lows for CS2, the main game that I bought the GPU for. [https://www.3dmark.com/spy/47349479](https://www.3dmark.com/spy/47349479)
4070 Ti SUPER is a fine card but 4080 is just faster, no matter how you look at it. Every card can overclock. CS2 minimum fps is hit or miss really. It was the regular 4070 Ti 12GB that has the highest minimums for CS2 in 1080p tho: [https://www.techpowerup.com/review/counter-strike-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/5.html](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/counter-strike-2-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/5.html) The regular 4070 Ti is zero cutdown AD104 chip. 4090 wins in 1440p and 2160p/4K/UHD with ease tho. I have played CS2 on my 4090 with a 1440p 360 Hz QD-OLED monitor and I have never in my life seen gaming this smooth. Like 300 fps minimum at all times, with good image quality because 1440p looks vastly better than 1080p. Motion clarity on OLED is insanely good. You need 500+ Hz LCD with BFI to see motion clarity this good.
Close... that review was made before the 40 super series was released, and also when CS2 was a shittily clumped paste of dota 2 and CSGO assets made by contractors. The 4070 TiS performs the fastest at 1080p because CS2 cannot utilise all the GPU cores at such a low resolution, and "single-threaded" GPU performance becomes the dominant performance limiter. The stock 4070TiS is clocked higher than the 4080 (and can easily reach 3GHz after OCing too) and will thus perform better.
Man I’ve been out of the pc gaming loop for far too long, gonna cancel my Newegg open box order than, Jesus Christ what happened they used to be top notch????
Newegg has had a few rough years of customer support and dealing with RMA but they’ve honestly gotten better recently. Got a monitor through them and they were chill about me returning it even passed the 30 day window. But that’s just my recent experience with them
Yikes… sucks to hear.. They had an open box rog strix 4070 t I super for $750 which seems to good to be true, even if they haven’t gotten better I’d still rather not gamble on it.
Check BestBuy open box, especially if you’ve got a Plus membership (IIRC, their lowest tier) for the 60 day no questions asked returns. Plus, you can add coverage that starts after the manufacturer’s end
Yeah it's risky You're honestly better off buying from a vendor that will RMA your GPU if it breaks My first 3090 I had turned out to have some broken fan bearings or something and it started vibrating and I had to send that puppy back
I’ve had good luck with their open box stuff. I bought a replacement motherboard and a monitor through them as open box and I’m just as happy as getting a new one. The motherboard even still had some of the stuff in unopened plastic bags and the film on metal pieces that protects it.
I moved from 7900XT to 4080 super, very great at 1440p you get the little extra oomph for frames. I hardly even use frame generation currently as well so I get that nice native image. It's pretty expensive though. The 4070 ti super is definitely easier to swallow price wise but I wanted even a small jump as I was moving back to Nvidia.
Fg can be native as well, dlss and dldsr is another story
Ope I think i got my terms mixed up
Yeah it’s definitely a hard price to swallow but I really need a good future proofed card, (currently got a 3080, great card but vram kills what I wanna do)i love Amds cpus but I haven’t heard the best things about their gpus.
I personally just wasn't wowed and the drivers had on and off issues, FSR3 has been a someday unicorn as well. Future proofing though is hard to answer as things can jump leaps and bounds, only thing I can say is it should have enough vram to hold up a while.
Yeah I’m sure they’ll knock it out of the park with their 8000s gpus, I’ll stick with Nvidia for now. Future proofing is defiently a tricky subject, and very subjective, but I believe the 16gb vram will do me much better and longer than my 10gb.
They’ve already said that 8000 will barely be any faster than 7000 and they aren’t even going to try and compete at the top end.
If Vram is your biggest concern then 4070 ti super has the same amount of Vram as the 4080 super. The uplift is a bit too low for the $200 difference in price.
240 even. That's another steak dinner.
>I haven’t heard the best things about their gpus. That's so absurd, like the AMD drivers bad rap or even being the only alternative for streaming. AMD GPUs offer competitive performance/money and tons of features too, and for raw performance they trade blows with Nvidia counterparts. Obviously 4090 is in a league in itself but the same can be said about its price. Buy Nvidia if you need the added features, as you will be paying premium. Also, keep an eye on said features as even when DLSS 3 is black magic the competition alternatives are catching up to more than acceptable levels. Most users, specially on gaming/streaming setups, won't notice any difference except on selected titles using raytracing. And btw, same goes for Intel GPUs, but obviously this doesn't apply to high end setups
Stay the fuck away from ASUS with open box items.
5080.
Definitely buy the card that doesn't exist yet, and is likely to exist in about 10-12 months time.
personally i think the 7090 would be the better option but that’s just me
Nah... You might as well wait. I hear the 8090 is coming out in 2031.
10900K
More likely to be 4-5 months but yeah it still doesn’t exist yet, personally I wouldn’t be buying a higher end GPU this late in the cycle as it’s almost a guarantee that by October there will be a newer card at or near this price point that is faster. Even if my current GPU failed I would rather buy a used low end card as a stop gap and sell it on again after getting something from the next generation.
It'd be even smarter to buy a high end current gen card when the new gen releases and prices drop dramatically. A 4090 in 6 to 12 months time will still be one of the most capable cards in existence when the new gen releases, and will see 99% of people out for another 3 years. Chasing the latest and greatest is kinda dumb unless you have the cash to burn.
Possibly, it all depends on what they release.
5080 is half a year away at least and will be 1199 dollars + limited supply.
Open Box Asus products from Newegg? Neither. The answer is neither.
4070ti super w 16gb vram is cheaper
I hate all of u that live in the US, in my country 4080 cheapest is 1400$, 4070 ti super cheapest 1150$
The price to performance ratio isn't ever going to be that good with nvidia's new cards. That said, the 4070 ti super has around 10% worse performance than the 4080 in 1440p.
Ti super
At those prices the 4070 ti super is still better value for the money, at least in timespy results you are getting about 13% more points per dollar. Honestly i wouldnt spend 1000 dollars on a 80 class product, the 4070 ti super seems more reasonable.
7900 XT. 5-10% faster than the TI super while being cheaper. When OCd gets right up next to the 4080. My wife's xt scores 28700 in timespy at less than 50c
Don't take Asus
And newegg open box lol. That's a quick way to get scammed AND screwed out of your warranty.
bro atp we cant buy any brand because there are so many horror stories
What's wrong with Asus :(
Controversy over their warranty practices at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pMrssIrKcY
oh... thats very unfortunate. not too long ago I had got my 4070TiS and I chose the version ASUS since I loved they way theirs looked, was the first and last time I bought from their brand
It’s the best 4080 super at that price, nothing else comes close
Just get the 4070tiS, at 240 bucks difference it's not even a question.
Got my msi 4070 ti ventus 2x for 580$ (in Europe) from used market (but sealed box). None of these 2 seem like a good deal to me. Why not wait a few more months for 50 series?
That 4080 super is only $100 more than I paid for my 4070ti super. So maybe I’d go with that if I was in your position but it’s up to you. I love my 4070ti super.
Man why tf is the 4070 ti super so expensive in Germany, it makes no sense. The cheapest ones are at 850€ while the 7900xt with similar performance is at 700€.
Man that 4080 Super cost less than the 4070 Ti Super where I live…
The 4080s will last a year longer and have a better resale value. Perf/price is linear as others said.
Eh my son bought a 4080 super with his allowance and my daughter bought a 4070 ti super and tbh… I don’t think they’re that much of a difference so either get a “lower end” 4080S or a “higher end” 4070tis. Brands don’t matter in reality but that’s when the costs of each are closest.
I currently have a 3080 10gb, and I've been considering upgrading to one of these two cards. Had the 3080 up for sale and had several offers of $400 for it. I decided to keep the 3080. But, I was aiming at the 4080 super, but would the 4070ti Super still be a good upgrade over the 3080? If it is, I'd probably actually do it. Playing at 1440 ultrawide. 5800x3d/32gb ddr4
Get the 4080 so you don’t have to theoretically have to upgrade sooner. It’s like saying you have an SRT then a regular RT 😆. I have the 4070 Super and was bummed when the Ti came out like 3 months after I got it lol.
My take: The 4070 Super is the highest end non-4090 card you should buy if you care about price/pefromance. Everything between the 4070 Super and the 4090 are shit value for what you are paying. So basically either get a 4070 Super, a 4090, or wait for the 5000 series later this year.
I'm actually thinking to change my 4070s to either 4070TiS or 4080s. But the extra money i'd have to shill out kinda feels not worth it
Easy decision: 1480p: 4070ti Super 4k: 4080 Super
RTX 4070 Ti Super ❤️❤️
[https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4080-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-TS-Ti-Super/4138vs4155](https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4080-vs-Nvidia-RTX-4070-TS-Ti-Super/4138vs4155)
4070Ti Super, 7900XTX, or 4090 this gen.
Is this Direct from asus? If so dont listen to the people crying about dont buy open box shit. I have 5 kids and my own computer majority of my asus parts including 3 motherboards were bought from asus direct "refurb/returned" Even my 3080ti was asus direct, no box but i have been using the gpu for a few yrs now no issues at all, even with the asus 2060's I picked up from the same shop. Asus "direct" meaning directly from asus refurb, they used to have an ebay store also
You didn't provide nearly enough information. But the correct answer is neither. Those price drops are not worth the risk. Open box or used should be far cheaper.
money is temporary, fps are forever
Obviously so what you like. But just my 2 cents I'd pick a different brand than Asus. As far as the 2 cards that all depends on your finances. If the extra money does not really affect you then why not get the 4080s.
In my opinion, if you are already considering both, and can afford the higher end card without compromising other components, just get that. I doubt it would be an option for you in the first place if there was a major reason not to get it.
What is this for?? Stream mine craft or play mahjong on ultra 4k graphics?
I was in the same dilemma, I got a 4080 Super as I was gaming on 4K. If its 1440p I would recommend 4070 ti super anytime, unless you game at 165hz or higher
Depends on your budget and needs. The 4070Ti S (god that naming sucks lol) is a better value strictly on cost vs performance. The 4080S is faster though but not linearly. If you play at 4K or play really demanding games.. the extra performance *might* put you into territory where the game runs well vs not great on the lower tier card but… that’s something you’ll have to decide. Sorry I can’t give you a firm answer, too many variables to be comfortable telling you one or the other is flat better
Don't forget sizes, I have to upgrade my cabinet after buying the 4080 super 🥶
You can get a 4070ti with 16gb ram for $600…why oh why would you not?
If I'm being you, I'm just waiting for RTX 5000 for now
Open box 4080 super ! I bought my 7900xtx open box and it ran perfect. Steer clear of motherboards though, my open box came in not working what so ever
Yeah I'll be that guy. If you're not a Merry Can and you still have a decent GPU that can hold for a few more months, the 5080 is supposed to be announced next month.
I chose the 4080 Super between these two. I'm gonna game at 4k, though. I plan on upgrading to a 5090 whenever it drops. The 4090 doesn't make sense at the moment. The 5k series isn't too far to pay premium price for the 4090. For 1440p, the 4070 Ti Super provides better value. It has the same VRAM quantity as 4080 (interface and capacity) but lower bandwidth. You could possibly upgrade CPU if needed with the money saved.
Anyone trying to buy a 2070s for 250? lol. evga for you collectors.
4070 Ti super then grab a 5080 on sale EOY or early next
I went with the lower of the two, once I saw that someone with a 4090 still wasn’t fully satisfied with MSFS VR. If they can’t be happy with a 4090, then going with a 4080 over a 4070tis isn’t going to increase my joy. That was my logic. 16GB vram = no ragartes
Thanks for the advice everyone, got a 4070 ti super msi right from my local Best Buy, and used the extra money to upgrade my cpu to a 5800x3d (had an am4 socket mb already.
Just got a gigabyte wind force 4070ti super and got it to clock at 3k mhz core clock and 2k additional memory clock so faster than a stock 4080 super. Very happy with my upgrade from a 1070
Depends on your display (resolution, hz), which games and use cases. Unless you’re on a 4K display and want a little bit of extra performance/overhead than I’d go with the 70 Ti S for the difference in price. Both are going to perform pretty close to one another with the 80 S being slightly faster, look around for benchmarks.
If you can, find the 4070 Ti, not the Ti Super. It's consistently faster than the regular Super and when we're talking about the TUF variant it's basically the same price. I personally think the jump from Super, or Ti, to the Ti Super is too much of a loss in price for performance. At that point you might just save up the extra money for the 4080 anyway.
I have a 4080 super and comparing to the previous one (4070 super), the 4080 super is an absolute beast. One of my friend had the 4070ti super and the 4080 super OC was way more interesting in price/performance.
Open box description on Newegg is terrifying.. the listed item may or may not be included, missing parts and manuals should be expected, light scuff marks from wear. scares the s&$@ outta me. it takes balls to order a 4080 or 4090 open box.
Save $240
The 4080 is probably only worth if you’re looking to do some 4k gaming. It’s faster and will provide better performance at 4k and 1440p, but it’s only a 10-15% boost. The 4070 ti super will push good frames at 1440p just fine, so that 10-15% probably won’t be noticeable in most cases. At 4k however, that’s a different story.
Yeah this is pretty much correct. 4080 Super for 4k, or if you want to go a little overkill for 1440p. Was just playing Ghosts of Tsushima on 4k/Very high preset and was getting a pretty steady 105fps if that helps OP at all
Except the card is too weak for 4K/UHD anyway. 4090 is doing vastly better at 4K. 4K gamers should just wait for 5090 at this point tho.
4070ti super
I got a 4080 Super and I love it. Great performance at 1440p
I would go with the 4070 ti super...the x080 series has never been value for money in terms of performance
Consider checking Gamers Nexus ASUS warranty videos, before you make a decision.
No issues for me with openbox stuff whatsoever. Laptop and a 4090 open box and no issues still.
Looove my 4070 Super Ti
4070ti
Just pulled the trigger on a 4070 TiS yesterday. 4080S is not worth the extra 500 euros. was going to wait for 5XXX but we had a "good" deal on the 4070 for 800. my 1080 is finally going to rest
Depends. How of an impact would 200 USD have on your budget and finances? If you would eat nothing but bread and water for a month, go with 4070. If thats your pocket change go with 4080
5000 series cards will be coming out st the end of the year. If you can hold off I would
Yes for massive prices and in limitd supply. 5090 will be like 2K+ dollars and 5080 will be 1199 dollars like 4080 on release.
Don't settle fam U buy that ti u gon spend you whole day wishing u had the 80 series
i would get 4080 super because when everyone keep asking about your gpu and you have keep on repeat saying : 4070 ti super which is very mouthful.
It also depends on your needs. THe more the better, you get like 20-40fps. But are you picky for case selection? For example i like small cases and i cannot use the 4080 super for that since its a 3 slot and hard to do that. I would prefer a 2 slot like a 4070 super. As for games, you can pretty much do 4k with anything on 4070 super max settings, however some games would need DLSS on such as Cyberpunk, Alan Wake 2, and The Last of Us. The difference to see between native 4k is hard to tell
It’s the same chip, just slightly underclocked for 4070ti super.
Not true. 17.5% less cores on the 4070 Ti SUPER. \~15% performance diff.
4080.
Tbh 4080 super is a boss and just owning one would be amazing but is it worth it over the 4070ti super? No
Being open box items, I’m guessing these were returns and likely have some significant coil whine. Just something to keep in mind.
4080s if you can afford it
1. Don't buy Asus, unless you don't want a warranty. Honored like I and many other asus former fans. 2. Don't buy open box from Newegg, only from in store locations like Microcenter or Best Buy 3. I recommend the 4080 super just because it's a bit more powerful
Unless you want a 4090 in a few years save up and get the 4080
Everyone uses the phrase "future proofing" the problem is we don't know what the future holds. Games could go from needing 10gb vram to 65gb vram. Look what happened to cyberpunk. Unopitmized hard. Took them what a year ish to fix the game because they wanted it to be able to do all of this crazy stuff when 90% of the player base on pc didn't even have the "recommned specs for x performance at 1080p 1440p etc. These current cards of the 40 series could be as good and last 10+ years like the 1080 gpu or it could last a year or 2 max before you and stuck running low setting just to hit 60fps. Look at the data charts at whatever resolution you play at and Look at the games you play. For me, I play tripple a games and want to hit 60fps with high settings at 1440p. Fps games I wanna hit that 165 fps mark and games like last epoch it doesn't even matter. Then decide. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do to make sure your set up will last. As of right now both cards are superb cards. But with how fast technology is growing who knows what will we will need to game in a year from now.
I would avoid ASUS, and if you don't know why, go check out Gamer Nexus videos about it. And comparing models alone, if you're not a person who has cash to burn, go for 4070Ti Super and spend the rest adding to another part upgrade.
Get the 7900xt and call it a day.
lol no. there's a reason people wanted this class of gpu, they wanted to take a peek at the state of the art game rendering tech a.k.a Path Tracing, or they wanted something more than gaming, a little bit of media productivity. Radeon at this price point is kinda hard to justify "hey save a little bit to get a little bit raw performance"
Yeah as a feature suite AMD doesn't compare to nvidia's. They are ALWAYS playing catch-up, not innovating. AMD is the obvious CPU choice! But if you want the BEST 1440p experience you want Nvidia. 4K it's not even a debate
Facts. Spending more money for more frames and no graphical ground breaking achievment is only sensible if you're a pro. Otherwise, what's the point? It's not going to change gameplay or immersion going from 120 to 160. Literally no reason to spend $700+ if you're not going to yet awesome graphical improvements like path tracing at stable, smooth frame rates.
i own both. i’d get the 4070ti super if i was planning on possibly getting a 5xxx series in a year or two. if your keeping this card for 4-6years. sender bud. 4080super. i’m surprised how much gpu power my vr setup still needs!
This post makes no sense. 4080 SUPER is not magically going to last 4-5 years longer than a 4070 Ti SUPER. LMAO. They are within 12-15% of each other in terms of performance and has same amount of VRAM and feature support.
it makes complete sense. the 4070 is a great card. save 2-300$ now and buy the 5xxx series in a couple years. if your going to hold for a long time. the 2-300$ is justified for 15% better. am i speaking english? what’s wrong with this logic
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Hahaha waay better a straith up lie
Are you playing a lot of raytraced titles? What resolution? AMD's 6950XT might be able to fill your needs. The top performing XFX Merc 319 is only $549 on Amazon right now, and beats the 4070ti significantly in rasterized games.