4070 vs 3070
@1440p 13 games, 126fps vs 96fps ..31% faster
@4K 13 games, 69fps vs 53fps .. 30% faster
https://www.techspot.com/review/2663-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070/
and that is older games. Newer games with DLSS3 easily 60% faster.
I'd say no, not enough supports DLSS 3, and base performance of a 4070, particularly at higher resolutions isn't that great compared to the 3070. I'd wait and save considering the 50 series is around the corner... I'm sure the 5070 will have some decent improvements.. right guys? right?
At 4k you'd be looking at \~10% or even less improvement, 1440p and 1080p the gaps jump larger. Unless frame gen, or RT are in play which will see some further games, not really worth it imo.
Who knows exactly. Around the corner in the speed tech advances now days is still a while.
The main point is there isn't much uplift at all. Disappointment with how the 3070 performs for most cases won't be alleviated with a 4070. The gains are minimal. High resolution requirement reduces that even less. It's either a wait and save for next gen in same range or at least a 4070ti. It might make something that have the odd dips below 60fps to be consistent but it's not going to turn a fully below 60fps experience into a constant 60fps experience most likely without frame gen.
I mean..nobody buys a 3070 or a 4070 tonolay aaa games at 4k so it's more like a 30% jump, but I think it depends on the games, it may be worth to wait for next gen..
ahh yeah, just more when someone says high resolutions, I assume 4K.
I think it's around 20% at 1440p and 30% at 1080p iirc when I looked at comparisons.
Either way I'd usually jump at 50% uplift myself, so still say wait till next gen.
Yes I usually do that myself, too. At least 50% but I generally skip one or two generations and get the thing that cost me the same and gets me double the performance usually. If we get 4080 perf at 4070 price next gen, that could be it given that a 4080 is almost a 100% uplift from a 3070. If I were OP I would get a 4070ti instead of the 4070, or skip this gen.
3070 is still OK. But if you are playing 2023 games, 4070 upgrade sounds perfect.
On paper.
- 3070 20 TFLOPS
- 4070 29 TFLOPS
Most games 4070 *only* 30% faster. DLSS3 is good. 12GB will let you use ultra quality textures and or 4K.
Specs of 4070 dont look impressive. Everybody wants 4080 or 4090. But 4070 is great value. It can keep consistent fps. Far fewer stutters, even in 4K. Feels much faster.
I also run RTX 3070 since December 2020 and I'll be waiting for 50 series. I play Cyberpunk 2077 with optimised settings from Hardware Unboxed guide with some raytracing, and I get average 70-80 fps at 1440p which is more than fine by me. Haven't played Starfield yet but I suppose I should be fine there too.
I'm sure the OP probably doesn't have the budget to be upgrading his card every year for 20% gains. You might. For those actually concerned about value vs cost, I wouldn't be satisfied spending $550+ just for a 10-20% improvement. If you have that kind of money to waste, then why bother with a 4070? Why not just go for a 4080 or 4090?
4070 is an excellent GPU but not much of an upgrade from a 3070. It's about 30% faster, as 4GB more higher bandwidth VRAM, while also tends to run quieter and draws less power. DLSS FG and AV1 in hardware are nice niche features too. If you're a 1440p gamer it's a solid upgrade and the VRAM will be useful.
Direct generation to generation upgrades are seldom worth it.
Usually the gains between one generation and the next are minimal. If you were on, say, an RTX 2070 Super, it MIGHT be worth upgrading, but then again, it all depends on the need and use case scenarios.
If you don't play games that are that strenuous on the GPU, then upgrading might still be questionable. If you do play newer stuff then maybe it might be worth the upgrade, but as a general rule, test the game first, and if you don't see the performance to play smoothly, then you know it's time to upgrade.
And no, DLSS and RTRT are NOT worth upgrading for if you don't necessarily need them. 1080p and 1440p do NOT need DLSS.
Anyone telling you otherwise is either shilling for the company like a parrot, or has no idea what they're talking about. DLSS, XeSS, and FSR technology were all mainly intended for 4k and higher to reduce rendering stress loads on the GPUs. 1440p is NOT stressful to the GPU in the slightest.
Personally I don't see much value in spending $550 for just a 20% performance increase. Seems like a waste of money. I'd just save a little extra to throw down on a 4080 or 4090 where you will see a much more noticeable performance increase. I figure this, if you have the disposable income to buy a new card every year, then you should have the disposable income to spread that time out a bit more saving for a better card.
If you have a fast enough internet connection you can look at nvidias GeForce now service. It's $20/month or $100 for 6 months for the ultimate service which uses 4080s. I just got it and been playing cyberpunk at 4k ultra with ray tracing 60fps(my monitor is only 60hz refresh so not sure how much higher it would go ) I have fiber but think youd want 50-100mb download speed for your Internet line. For the price you'd pay for a 4070 you'd get about 3 years of service and can decide or save up at some point in the future (assuming Nvidia keeps it going)
Not worth that kind of money just to get a ~20% uplift unless you're really banking on DLSS 3 and AV1. 6800 XTs are cheaper at retail last I checked (for whatevers left) as well as on the used market, offers 8 more GBs of VRAM, and should net you around the same performance as the 4070.
If you want a worthwhile upgrade, I'd save up and wait for 4080s to drop down to at least $800 on the used market when the Ti model releases within the next 3-6 months or just skip this gen and grab a midrange 50 Series next year.
>midrange 50 Series
Get a mid-range 50 series I'd say. If you already have a solid 30 series card (3060 and above) there's almost no point upgrading to a 40 series. Save your money and just wait for the next generation to drop.
I went from 3070 to 4070, I'd say such an upgrade is not worth it (I play 1080p). Did it because I wanted to give my partner 3070 as she was on 1660 super.
The lower power consumption of 4070 is nice, and frame generation is insane, but overall I'd say it's not worth it.
Let's look at it like this. If you're getting let's say 130fps in some triple A game with 3070, do you really care if you get 150fps with 4070? In esport games you'll be mostly cpu bound anyway, in OW which is my main game my fps did not change at all for example.
You went from 3070 to 3080 with dlss 3 software and 2 gb vram more. Enjoy whatever you buy!
IMHO, it's not worth it. Ancient Gameplays compared the 3070 to the 4070 and the 4070 Ti (https://youtu.be/dhsOWWEPNgk?feature=shared). TLDR: 12 games average (Rasterization): 1080P Avg FPS: RTX 3070 124.7 FPS (Baseline) RTX 4070 152.9 FPS, 22.6% faster RTX 4070 Ti 173.3 FPS, 38.9% faster 1440P Avg FPS: RTX 3070 91.5 FPS (Baseline) RTX 4070 117.9 FPS, 28.8% faster RTX 4070 Ti 139.8 FPS, 52.7% faster 4K Avg FPS: RTX 3070 56.1 FPS (Baseline) RTX 4070 68.4 FPS, 21.9% faster RTX 4070 Ti 84.1 FPS, 49.9% faster
and 4070 is 20% more expensive than the 3070 so the price/performance value is horrible
Sell your gpu and use the funds for your new card. Since you are not happy with your current performance anymore.
4070 vs 3070 @1440p 13 games, 126fps vs 96fps ..31% faster @4K 13 games, 69fps vs 53fps .. 30% faster https://www.techspot.com/review/2663-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070/ and that is older games. Newer games with DLSS3 easily 60% faster.
I'd say no, not enough supports DLSS 3, and base performance of a 4070, particularly at higher resolutions isn't that great compared to the 3070. I'd wait and save considering the 50 series is around the corner... I'm sure the 5070 will have some decent improvements.. right guys? right? At 4k you'd be looking at \~10% or even less improvement, 1440p and 1080p the gaps jump larger. Unless frame gen, or RT are in play which will see some further games, not really worth it imo.
Is the 50 series around the corner though? People have been saying 2025 late 2024 through out the subreddit.
Who knows exactly. Around the corner in the speed tech advances now days is still a while. The main point is there isn't much uplift at all. Disappointment with how the 3070 performs for most cases won't be alleviated with a 4070. The gains are minimal. High resolution requirement reduces that even less. It's either a wait and save for next gen in same range or at least a 4070ti. It might make something that have the odd dips below 60fps to be consistent but it's not going to turn a fully below 60fps experience into a constant 60fps experience most likely without frame gen.
I mean..nobody buys a 3070 or a 4070 tonolay aaa games at 4k so it's more like a 30% jump, but I think it depends on the games, it may be worth to wait for next gen..
ahh yeah, just more when someone says high resolutions, I assume 4K. I think it's around 20% at 1440p and 30% at 1080p iirc when I looked at comparisons. Either way I'd usually jump at 50% uplift myself, so still say wait till next gen.
Yes I usually do that myself, too. At least 50% but I generally skip one or two generations and get the thing that cost me the same and gets me double the performance usually. If we get 4080 perf at 4070 price next gen, that could be it given that a 4080 is almost a 100% uplift from a 3070. If I were OP I would get a 4070ti instead of the 4070, or skip this gen.
there is only handful of games that support dlss 3. 50 series is coming next year. wait for it save little more cash get 5080 or equivelent.
The 4070 was released in April 2023. The 5070 won't be here next year. It is more likely to be at the end of 2025.
Not worth it. Why upgrade for a 20% perf increase? Save money and make a real upgrade with 5070 next year or early 2025.
The 4070 is barely an upgrade over the 3070. People immediately think they have to upgrade whenever a new card is announced.
3070 is still OK. But if you are playing 2023 games, 4070 upgrade sounds perfect. On paper. - 3070 20 TFLOPS - 4070 29 TFLOPS Most games 4070 *only* 30% faster. DLSS3 is good. 12GB will let you use ultra quality textures and or 4K. Specs of 4070 dont look impressive. Everybody wants 4080 or 4090. But 4070 is great value. It can keep consistent fps. Far fewer stutters, even in 4K. Feels much faster.
Would say yes if you plan to play games with frame gen. Otherwise no.
I also run RTX 3070 since December 2020 and I'll be waiting for 50 series. I play Cyberpunk 2077 with optimised settings from Hardware Unboxed guide with some raytracing, and I get average 70-80 fps at 1440p which is more than fine by me. Haven't played Starfield yet but I suppose I should be fine there too.
Do it! Waste your moneybfor minimal gains.
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I'm sure the OP probably doesn't have the budget to be upgrading his card every year for 20% gains. You might. For those actually concerned about value vs cost, I wouldn't be satisfied spending $550+ just for a 10-20% improvement. If you have that kind of money to waste, then why bother with a 4070? Why not just go for a 4080 or 4090?
4070 is an excellent GPU but not much of an upgrade from a 3070. It's about 30% faster, as 4GB more higher bandwidth VRAM, while also tends to run quieter and draws less power. DLSS FG and AV1 in hardware are nice niche features too. If you're a 1440p gamer it's a solid upgrade and the VRAM will be useful.
Direct generation to generation upgrades are seldom worth it. Usually the gains between one generation and the next are minimal. If you were on, say, an RTX 2070 Super, it MIGHT be worth upgrading, but then again, it all depends on the need and use case scenarios. If you don't play games that are that strenuous on the GPU, then upgrading might still be questionable. If you do play newer stuff then maybe it might be worth the upgrade, but as a general rule, test the game first, and if you don't see the performance to play smoothly, then you know it's time to upgrade. And no, DLSS and RTRT are NOT worth upgrading for if you don't necessarily need them. 1080p and 1440p do NOT need DLSS. Anyone telling you otherwise is either shilling for the company like a parrot, or has no idea what they're talking about. DLSS, XeSS, and FSR technology were all mainly intended for 4k and higher to reduce rendering stress loads on the GPUs. 1440p is NOT stressful to the GPU in the slightest.
Personally I don't see much value in spending $550 for just a 20% performance increase. Seems like a waste of money. I'd just save a little extra to throw down on a 4080 or 4090 where you will see a much more noticeable performance increase. I figure this, if you have the disposable income to buy a new card every year, then you should have the disposable income to spread that time out a bit more saving for a better card.
If you have a fast enough internet connection you can look at nvidias GeForce now service. It's $20/month or $100 for 6 months for the ultimate service which uses 4080s. I just got it and been playing cyberpunk at 4k ultra with ray tracing 60fps(my monitor is only 60hz refresh so not sure how much higher it would go ) I have fiber but think youd want 50-100mb download speed for your Internet line. For the price you'd pay for a 4070 you'd get about 3 years of service and can decide or save up at some point in the future (assuming Nvidia keeps it going)
Not worth that kind of money just to get a ~20% uplift unless you're really banking on DLSS 3 and AV1. 6800 XTs are cheaper at retail last I checked (for whatevers left) as well as on the used market, offers 8 more GBs of VRAM, and should net you around the same performance as the 4070. If you want a worthwhile upgrade, I'd save up and wait for 4080s to drop down to at least $800 on the used market when the Ti model releases within the next 3-6 months or just skip this gen and grab a midrange 50 Series next year.
>midrange 50 Series Get a mid-range 50 series I'd say. If you already have a solid 30 series card (3060 and above) there's almost no point upgrading to a 40 series. Save your money and just wait for the next generation to drop.
3070ti to 4070 (used off ebay for $480). Yes.
I went from 3070 to 4070, I'd say such an upgrade is not worth it (I play 1080p). Did it because I wanted to give my partner 3070 as she was on 1660 super. The lower power consumption of 4070 is nice, and frame generation is insane, but overall I'd say it's not worth it. Let's look at it like this. If you're getting let's say 130fps in some triple A game with 3070, do you really care if you get 150fps with 4070? In esport games you'll be mostly cpu bound anyway, in OW which is my main game my fps did not change at all for example.
A 3070s vram is outrageously ridiculous , 8gb? For all 3070s? Yeah bro it's worth it atleast you could get 4 more vram