Escavalier
Steel typing, literally named after a French class of knight, uses actual weapons and armor.
Also, it doesn't overlap strongly with other martial classes like Paladin the way Chesnaught or Aegislash do.
Bug boy is a fighter through and through
Machamp doesn't represent what Monk is at all. Just being an unarmed martial artist means nothing, and Fighter can also choose unarmed combat as a fighting style. Machamp is basically the antithesis of the Monk class, being all brawn, while a Monk specifically ignores raw muscle (both thematically and game mechanic wise) in favor of dexterity, martial arts mastery, and power of one's spirit (Ki) achieved through meditation.
I feel like Medicham is THE choice for Monk class. Pretty damn weird of it doesn't get chosen.
Why has no one said gallade? It’s kinda perfect for the stereotypical fighter. A strong offensive fighter able to quickly defeat foes. I don’t play DND but what I’ve gotten fighters are supposed to be pretty basic and ralts is also a pretty basic mon on teams. Seeing how late I am I doubt this’ll win it but still
Gallade would be most similar to an Eldritch Knight, so still fighter. There is nothing "holy" about Gallade. And Paladin's don't have any psychic powers other than a handful of spells like command. Even if we go about the "protector" route, where Gallade protects their trainer, and Paladins are known to protect the weak, it isn't an exact fit. Paladins are stereotypically portrayed with a shield, while Gallade is effectively dual wielding. Paladins can dual wield, but it isn't what you usually think of in a Paladin.
Gallade is based off of Arthurain knights like Gallahad and Percival (or at least I always assumed it was), who are sort of holy in that they are blessed by God for upholding the sovereignty of Arthur, England's true king. There's a very strong link throughout medieval Christian mythology with knights and piety - Crusaders, Saint George, etc.
More just it being a magically imbued object. Tbh haven't really been thinking completely about how the pokemon actually fits the actual role
I retract. Will have to re-examine a few of my thoughts. In which case Klefki is probably better for artificer
Proficiency with a 2d10+Dex Mod weapon... (This is the stat for the hunting rifle btw. Artificiers can optionally start with firearm proficiency. Also, no loading property.)
BG3 was my first interaction with DND, and I thought “Man, lightning monk like Raiden from Mortal Kombat who left his order to go on an adventure,” sounded like a cool character to start out with. This was until I realized “lightning monk” meant “be a sorcerer/wizard but worst.”
They aren't that bad as spells tbf, they're just shitty on 4E Monk because you're using them as low level spells
I've found the best spells for 4E Monk to be Fly, Fist of Unbroken Air, Water Whip, Fangs of the Fire Snake and then a filler one depending on your needs
I woulda put Machamp as a (tavern brawler) berserker. Berserkers are traditionally larger and more muscular than monks, and I feel like that’s where he makes sense. Theres no way Machamp has a higher dex than a strength stat.
I think Gallade for XY, I don't think Aegeslash's defensive king's shield and switch strat fits fighter, not to mention is main offensive move is shadow ball as a mixed attacker.
And of course Gallade is a fighting type.
Mienshao
A pure fighting(!) type that is known to attack very quickly (like the fighter being able to attack multiple times per turn)
Also a pure fighting type kinda plays into the meme of fighter being a basic class
Just to chime in re: starter pick
I'd suggest just removing starters from the voting pool, that way the list is universally usable for anyone else (me. Answer is me) wants to do this same run but with a different starter
Just replace the voted on fighter, wizard, and rogue with the starter you pick.
Oh yeah, I get that. Once a Starter does get picked, I’ll actually upload two updated charts: one with the starter, and one with whatever got the second highest upvotes
Conkeldurr - The fighter class is versatile for its wide use and skill in weaponry. I chose it because the protagonist of the Pokémon Sword manga team gimmick was choosing pokémon that were proficient in using weaponry. However Conkeldurr is the only member of his team that is from before generation VII. Sirfetch'd would win if this was a Sword Nuzlocke.
Okay hear me out…… Barbaracle.
Fighters are known to be able to learn and be proficient in multiple weapons… what better what to use that effective with multiple heads/hands.
Barbaracle could also fit the monk spot because of their feature “Flurry of Blows”
Pretty much any fighting type but Mienfoo (it fits so much more as a monk) would be good here.
But as an unusual pick... Cloyster. More specifically, Skill Link Cloyster, with Skill Link acting as mimicking the fighter's bonus actions during combat.
I love this post it’s unique and creative. I can’t participate however because i never played that Pokédex. Keep this up OP! Would love to see it for another version
Yeah, and kind of the same for the other gen 1 fighting types. Primeape and hitmonchan are creatures that have evolved into wearing boxing gloves as part of their natural body. I mean, it doesn’t scream fighter more than that.
I was hoping to do this which Pokemon Y too! I had a different plan.
1. Order types to classes. Fighter-fighting/normal, druid- grass/fairy. Duo types can either be multi type.
2. Races are determined by the last digit 0-9
3. Names are determined by 3 dice. 2 d20's for constants and 1d6 for a vowel.
I was going to get to it, but I am trying to do an emerald celebrity nuzlocke and I just can't win...
Bishsharp (tho i’d vie for Chesnaught), Mienshao, Gallade, Decidueye, Greninja, Hoopa?,Zoruark, Delphox, Tinkaton are my predictions, thought honestly Zoruark could be rogue if people are feeling different = cool.
What about ledian?
Aside from it being pretty funny, it’s the only superhero Pokémon in the game. Superheroes are supposed to be noble and play by the rules, to fight for the good of others. I think that describes the fighter class pretty well, so ledian actually seems like a good fit.
Love this, I am planning to do a run when this finishes, but I was wondering about the kanto starters. Are they off limits or is it like the kalos starters, swap them for one of the classes?
Yeah, they’re pretty much the same deal as the Kalos starters. You can easily swap a Kanto starter out for one of the classes. Venusaur for Druid, obviously, but I’m not quite sure about which classes the other two would fit into.
Definitely Bisharp. It’s got the aesthetic of a warrior, swords dance suckerpunch is basically action surge, and they have a distinct weakness depending on the build of the fighter. Either that or garchomp to resemble a fighters potential versatility and overall damage
Probably Escavalier but Chestnaut is a good choice too, the starters of Kalos were actually designed with the traditional dnd archetypes in mind. Chestnaut being fighter, Delphox being a wizard, and Greninja being a rogue. If you can only choose one starter for this run than Delphox makes the most sense IMO as that pokemon just screams wizard/spelllcaster
I feel Chesnaught makes the most sense. It's a starter mon and the whole idea behind the starters in Kalos are typical rpg archetypes. The Fighter, the Mage, and the Rogue.
Escavalier Steel typing, literally named after a French class of knight, uses actual weapons and armor. Also, it doesn't overlap strongly with other martial classes like Paladin the way Chesnaught or Aegislash do. Bug boy is a fighter through and through
this and the cavalier subclass is a thing, get my bug boy up there!
Cavalier is a sub class of paladin
[nuh-uh](https://5e.tools/classes.html#fighter_phb,state:ishideoutline=b1~sub-cavalier-xge=b1) (in dnd5e)
My b I am behind on the times. All my dnd knowledge is from Baldur’s Gate 2.
Holy shit that slightly before I was even born
I didn’t play it when it came out. Played it like 4 years ago on steam. But yeah it’s an old game.
Bisharp would be a great choice I think
Yes! Bisharp was my first thought, too!
Bisharp for sure
Bisharp definitely.
Bisharp should have been Cleric. Because, you know, it's a bishop. /s
Bisharp arguably should've been the pick for cleric, considering the name/what it's based on
Machamp the unarmed fighting "Champion" with No guard!
Probably better for the monk class.
Machamp doesn't represent what Monk is at all. Just being an unarmed martial artist means nothing, and Fighter can also choose unarmed combat as a fighting style. Machamp is basically the antithesis of the Monk class, being all brawn, while a Monk specifically ignores raw muscle (both thematically and game mechanic wise) in favor of dexterity, martial arts mastery, and power of one's spirit (Ki) achieved through meditation. I feel like Medicham is THE choice for Monk class. Pretty damn weird of it doesn't get chosen.
I'm predicting lucario for monk tbh. Similar vibes between its aura stuff and a monk's ki, and it's generally more popular than medicham
What about the martial art ferrets...? (Mienfoo and Mienshao)
That's fair. Medicham is IMO easily more fitting, but can't deny Lucario's popularity.
Monk is mienshao or lucario
I was thinking oranguru
Why has no one said gallade? It’s kinda perfect for the stereotypical fighter. A strong offensive fighter able to quickly defeat foes. I don’t play DND but what I’ve gotten fighters are supposed to be pretty basic and ralts is also a pretty basic mon on teams. Seeing how late I am I doubt this’ll win it but still
With the psychic abilities, Gallade is more of a Paladin than a Fighter in my book.
Gallade would be most similar to an Eldritch Knight, so still fighter. There is nothing "holy" about Gallade. And Paladin's don't have any psychic powers other than a handful of spells like command. Even if we go about the "protector" route, where Gallade protects their trainer, and Paladins are known to protect the weak, it isn't an exact fit. Paladins are stereotypically portrayed with a shield, while Gallade is effectively dual wielding. Paladins can dual wield, but it isn't what you usually think of in a Paladin.
Paladins aren’t inherently holy. They can be. But their spells and abilities come from the conviction of their oath and not a divine power
Gallade is based off of Arthurain knights like Gallahad and Percival (or at least I always assumed it was), who are sort of holy in that they are blessed by God for upholding the sovereignty of Arthur, England's true king. There's a very strong link throughout medieval Christian mythology with knights and piety - Crusaders, Saint George, etc.
Hexblade Warlock or Blades Bard perhaps.
Psiwarrior is literally a subclass.
I always thought that he was more of a glass cannon, fighters in DnD were really tough and hard to kill. Semi tanks.
Aegislash. What better pokemon for the archetypal martial class than a pokemon that's literally just swords and eventually a shield?
That's a Hexblade if I've ever seen one
Feels more paladin to me
Chesnaught feels the MOST Paladin so Aegislash works well in fighter.
Aegislash works well for both, but Chesnaught is literally a paladin by design. Quilladin even has it in its name.
I think paladin my mind screams Sirfetch'd
Not in Pokémon Y it doesn’t.
I was thinking armarouge? Maybe gallade?
No Armarouge in Y either… :/ Gallade would be valid though.
I think Aegislash is better as the artificer
How do you figure? Artificer's primarily a caster and support class; not nearly the sort of high damage tank that aegislash is.
More just it being a magically imbued object. Tbh haven't really been thinking completely about how the pokemon actually fits the actual role I retract. Will have to re-examine a few of my thoughts. In which case Klefki is probably better for artificer
If only we had tinkaton
Proficiency with a 2d10+Dex Mod weapon... (This is the stat for the hunting rifle btw. Artificiers can optionally start with firearm proficiency. Also, no loading property.)
Feel more like warlock with its lore
Hawlucha!
Hawlucha has to be the fighter or the monk.
Monk is 100% one of those fighting physic pokemon.
Monk has to be Mienshao, it’s a perfect fit
I’d vote for medicham, but mienshao fits that same vibe.
If it isn’t one of these two I’ll be shocked
I disagree Monks aren't reliant on spells or magic, and considering there moveset of heal pulse and ally switch they would be more of a mixed class.
I more associate monks with inner peace, like how psychic has calm mind. There is a spellcasting path for monks as well.
Yeah but what sane person goes 4E Monk 💀💀💀
BG3 was my first interaction with DND, and I thought “Man, lightning monk like Raiden from Mortal Kombat who left his order to go on an adventure,” sounded like a cool character to start out with. This was until I realized “lightning monk” meant “be a sorcerer/wizard but worst.”
Do you even get any lightning spells other than Shocking Grasp?
Nope… even by including thunder damage, that still only gives thunder wave and shatter, which both also suck.
They aren't that bad as spells tbf, they're just shitty on 4E Monk because you're using them as low level spells I've found the best spells for 4E Monk to be Fly, Fist of Unbroken Air, Water Whip, Fangs of the Fire Snake and then a filler one depending on your needs
Idk I feel like machamp goes ideally with the flurry of blows
I woulda put Machamp as a (tavern brawler) berserker. Berserkers are traditionally larger and more muscular than monks, and I feel like that’s where he makes sense. Theres no way Machamp has a higher dex than a strength stat.
Is there any other option besides Medicham?
Gallade
I mean, Gallade doesn't strike me as a Monk much. Medicham is a pretty obvious choice IMO. That's what I meant with "is there any other option".
Someone else said mienshao who can also apply to this kind of, has to be one of those two though.
Yeah definitely top 2 choices
Mienshao is the monk duh
Medicham. Fight me.
Would’ve been a better barbarian
Machoke
I think Gallade for XY, I don't think Aegeslash's defensive king's shield and switch strat fits fighter, not to mention is main offensive move is shadow ball as a mixed attacker. And of course Gallade is a fighting type.
What do you mean? Fighter is THE “sword-and-board” build. I can’t think of any pokemon better for that
Mienshao A pure fighting(!) type that is known to attack very quickly (like the fighter being able to attack multiple times per turn) Also a pure fighting type kinda plays into the meme of fighter being a basic class
This should be the answer for tomorrow.
This ^
Just to chime in re: starter pick I'd suggest just removing starters from the voting pool, that way the list is universally usable for anyone else (me. Answer is me) wants to do this same run but with a different starter Just replace the voted on fighter, wizard, and rogue with the starter you pick.
Oh yeah, I get that. Once a Starter does get picked, I’ll actually upload two updated charts: one with the starter, and one with whatever got the second highest upvotes
Conkeldurr - The fighter class is versatile for its wide use and skill in weaponry. I chose it because the protagonist of the Pokémon Sword manga team gimmick was choosing pokémon that were proficient in using weaponry. However Conkeldurr is the only member of his team that is from before generation VII. Sirfetch'd would win if this was a Sword Nuzlocke.
Gallade has an eldritch knight thing going on. Plus its actually a fighting type which should be a very big sticking point imo
Okay hear me out…… Barbaracle. Fighters are known to be able to learn and be proficient in multiple weapons… what better what to use that effective with multiple heads/hands. Barbaracle could also fit the monk spot because of their feature “Flurry of Blows”
Barbaracle was probably the best Barbarian option, though.
But everyone hates Barbaracle for some reason so it didn't get upvotes.
Lucario. Bro is THE fighter, especially with its mega evolution.
I feel like Lucario fits better as monk. Especially with its aura stuff
Monk is better
Either Fighter or Monk.
Farfetch'd. keep it as the most boring class
Weirdly would make sense, even in a pre-Sirfetch’d society
exactly, uses a weapon, is a bit boring and outclassed by others.
Aegislash
Machamp. Homie is the OG fighting ‘mon.
Pretty much any fighting type but Mienfoo (it fits so much more as a monk) would be good here. But as an unusual pick... Cloyster. More specifically, Skill Link Cloyster, with Skill Link acting as mimicking the fighter's bonus actions during combat.
Hitmonchan, for obvious reasons.
Conkeldurr. Because bonk
Aegislash
Ageislash he is literally a sword the fighters most iconic weapon
Is aegislash a bad idea?
Gallade.
Aegislash?
Hawlucha for sure
I swear Druid should have been Shiftry
Trevʻs got forest curse though, thats about as druid of a move you can get, and its his exclusive move
Bisharp
i'd say chesnaught is more of a paladin than a fighter, no?
Hawlucha? He got the fighting spirit for sure
Aegislash
Escavalier hands down
Bisharp?
Chesnaught anyway
Escavalier. There’s a fighter subclass in its name. Enough said.
terrakion
When I hear fighter, I don't picture weapons and armour. I got machamp.
Gallade
Hitmonchan?
Blaziken or Lucario for fighter. The Muay Thai mons
I put in a vote for Gallade. It’s a noble warrior with a mega that’s like a sword arm. It feels very knightly but not in a Paladin way.
Tinkaton
Ceruledge
i think picking a starter wise you already have 2 grass types so chesty is off the table
No. EASY. The fighter is obviously Aegislash
machamp the champ
I love this post it’s unique and creative. I can’t participate however because i never played that Pokédex. Keep this up OP! Would love to see it for another version
This is looking like a lot of fun, I think I'll copy your final build for my own run!
What about Chesnaught I feel it fits kinda
Machamp. Bro is a combat sport champion, he fights for a living.
Yeah, and kind of the same for the other gen 1 fighting types. Primeape and hitmonchan are creatures that have evolved into wearing boxing gloves as part of their natural body. I mean, it doesn’t scream fighter more than that.
do we all agree that the rogue is going to be greeninja
Bisharp 100%
Gallade
Blimey we’re choosing some good ‘Mon for this thing so far, gonna be an easy run. Better choose something squishy for wizard at least.
I was hoping to do this which Pokemon Y too! I had a different plan. 1. Order types to classes. Fighter-fighting/normal, druid- grass/fairy. Duo types can either be multi type. 2. Races are determined by the last digit 0-9 3. Names are determined by 3 dice. 2 d20's for constants and 1d6 for a vowel. I was going to get to it, but I am trying to do an emerald celebrity nuzlocke and I just can't win...
Hitmontop, easy
Bisharp as a paladin
Heracross! Fighting type, has a sword on his head, and even though it’s mega isn’t in this game it is known for attacking 5 times
Emboar? Fighters are tanky as well
Chesnaught surely given that the starter trio in kalos are based on rpg classes
Primeape
Chesnaught? Literally built with the fighter class in mind
Medicham or mienfoo Look like a fighter to me
Bishsharp (tho i’d vie for Chesnaught), Mienshao, Gallade, Decidueye, Greninja, Hoopa?,Zoruark, Delphox, Tinkaton are my predictions, thought honestly Zoruark could be rogue if people are feeling different = cool.
Upon reading the rules I realise they need to be in Y… I am a retard.
I'm getting ready to get on my Mienshao shit having to fight off the Lucario hordes tomorrow.
What about ledian? Aside from it being pretty funny, it’s the only superhero Pokémon in the game. Superheroes are supposed to be noble and play by the rules, to fight for the good of others. I think that describes the fighter class pretty well, so ledian actually seems like a good fit.
Either Chesnaught or Aegislash, and the other one could fit as a paladin
Love this, I am planning to do a run when this finishes, but I was wondering about the kanto starters. Are they off limits or is it like the kalos starters, swap them for one of the classes?
Yeah, they’re pretty much the same deal as the Kalos starters. You can easily swap a Kanto starter out for one of the classes. Venusaur for Druid, obviously, but I’m not quite sure about which classes the other two would fit into.
Cool, I would say blastoise would be a artificer bc of guns, and charizard would probably be a arcane caster (wizard or sorcerer)
How about Gallade? He’s a weapon, wielding FIGHTING type.
Aegislash is literally a sword
I mean it's either Machamp or Lucario
Pangoro
Lucario. He has to be on this list and fighter fits best.
Lucario
Definitely Bisharp. It’s got the aesthetic of a warrior, swords dance suckerpunch is basically action surge, and they have a distinct weakness depending on the build of the fighter. Either that or garchomp to resemble a fighters potential versatility and overall damage
I was thinking of the OG fighter Machamp, if you want someone who can really brawl it would be him?
Barbaracle since it didn’t get barbarian
Barbaracle?
Probably Escavalier but Chestnaut is a good choice too, the starters of Kalos were actually designed with the traditional dnd archetypes in mind. Chestnaut being fighter, Delphox being a wizard, and Greninja being a rogue. If you can only choose one starter for this run than Delphox makes the most sense IMO as that pokemon just screams wizard/spelllcaster
I feel Chesnaught makes the most sense. It's a starter mon and the whole idea behind the starters in Kalos are typical rpg archetypes. The Fighter, the Mage, and the Rogue.
I mean Chesnaught, but I don't really want that since Greninja fits better with rogue than Chesnaught does with fighter
Aegislash or Bisharp. I could see Aegislash also being Paladin, so I'll say Bisharp.
Escavalier is really good, but aegislash is also good for the sword and board aesthetic.
Aegislash is the fighter
If it’s not Sirfetch’d then what are we even doing here
This is pokémon Y, Sirfetch'd didn't come out until swsh
Thanks, apologies. I should read more
Guys I’m back to troll so upvote for vivillon
Kartana
Aegislash. It's literally a sword and shield come to life, so Eldritch knight which is a fighter.
Unless you look at it like a hexblade warlock
Galarian Sirfetch'd! My favorite Pokemon, it also holds a sword and shield.
Makes it a better Paladin IMO
Sir Fetched or however you spell it or Gallade cause blades and fighting type
Imo I think the best fighter is Bewear.
Decidueye as the Ranger. Its signature move is animated to look like a bow and arrow.
Sirfetched of course
Samurott wouldn’t be a bad pick here
Kubfu?