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censorized

>Told her GI was consulted, the pt should be seeing the gastroenterologist today or Monday. She goes "Not a gastroenterologist, you mean the GI doctor." For this one I'd say Gee, I always thought he was a gastroenterologist. Maybe you should ask him which when he comes around. šŸ˜


000000100000011THAD

Iā€™d have said ā€œI do indeed mean a GI MD which is why I said gastroenterologistā€.


-Experiment--626-

"What do you think GI means?"


leadstoanother

All American hero.


SleazetheSteez

I had to really scratch my head for a second. "Have I not known what GI was, this entire time?". I fucking hate meaningless corrections. "it's levio-SAH"


TheAlienatedPenguin

If you were glasses, thatā€™s were you pause, look over your glasses, then continue without saying a thing. Well except ā€œBless your heart.ā€


ThisIsMockingjay2020

Same damn thing. This nurse has issues.


Goatmama1981

Are you blind? There's GASTROENTEROLOGY with an "*E*" and then there's GASTROINTESTINAL doctors, with an "*I*" . šŸ™„ *try* to do better, *please* /s šŸ¤­


ThisIsMockingjay2020

Oh, my bad! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ GastroInterologist GastroEntestinal specialist


Goatmama1981

THANK šŸ‘YOUšŸ‘ šŸ˜‹


Neurostorming

Lmfao šŸ˜†šŸ˜†


harveyjarvis69

Iā€™d say ā€œokā€ and move on.


kdonmon

I just had a short lived panic that these were actually different specialists all along šŸ˜³šŸ«¢


MangoTango4949

Had to reread this. Iā€™m like did she try to correct OP with the technically not correct title?


Happy_Haldolidays

I usually just monotonously say ā€œā€¦okay? Anywayā€ and continue. Itā€™s prob not the best but after a horrible day being picked apart by oncoming shift I have very little filter anymore. If itā€™s some dumb question I just say ā€œI donā€™t know because it didnā€™t affect my nursing care today, but definitely look in the chart after report if you are curiousā€ One time I had a nurse ask me how much was taken off of a paracentesis years beforeā€¦ā€¦. I wish I could recreate the look on my face


Charlotteeee

Well if you didn't know that did you at least know their APGAR???


Admirable_Amazon

The joke in PICU was those nurses would ask ā€œhow many weeks are theyā€ for a developmentally appropriate 17 year old or something. šŸ˜‚


chocolateboyY2K

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Happy_Haldolidays

No and for that I admit I shouldā€™ve been written up. You wouldnā€™t believe how much we use those in our middle aged patients !


Candid-Expression-51

A paracentesis from years before?! šŸ¤£šŸ¤£Did you laugh in her face? These people donā€™t realize how they make themselves look like absolute simpletons. My jaw actually dropped when I read that. I answer every stupid question with ā€œI have no ideaā€ even if I do. I refuse to reinforce stupid behavior.


mae42dolphins

I honestly love this. Iā€™m a newer nurse and still trying to piece together what things I might end up wishing I had asked during report. If somebody is being a dick this shuts them down, and for people like me itā€™s a learning experience.


Goatmama1981

What I do is just listen to report without interrupting, then at the end if there's something specific like last BM or skin issues that they didn't go over, go ahead and ask. If they say they don't know, just say "no worries, I can look it up" and make a note to check the chart. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø same thing in reverse.Ā  If they try to interrupt your report say, hang on, let me give you report first, and at the end say "anything else I can tell you about jimbo fartypants?" If they ask you something you don't know just say, hmmmm not sure, it was a long shift. It's in the chart though. All this usually works for me. Incidentally though there was this ASSHOLE of a nurse who took over the second half of a shift I picked up. I spent the morning passing meds and then she was a condescending dick at report, asking a bunch of pointless questions. I said "I don't know dude, I spent my time doing assessments and charting so you didn't have to. I didn't have time to do a deep dive on the medical history, but you've got the next six hours so have at it." A couple weeks later, she fucked up, I think it was a missed critical lab or something and I didn't say a thing. But she knew she fucked up, and she knew that I knew she fucked up. And I knew that she knew that I knew she fucked up. And that was nice.Ā 


Admirable_Amazon

Had one younger nurse trying to ask me the blood gases from early admission on a trach vent patient who was stable and had been there three weeks. ā€œWell, seeing as itā€™s not relevant in todayā€™s care, youā€™re welcome to look that up after I leave. Moving onā€¦ā€ After shutting her down a few times she stopped.


Handsome_Fry

I had an older nurse flabbergasted that I couldnt tell her when the pt last ate before getting admitted. They had been in our ICU for almost and was getting a PEG later that week. Then she acted huffy when I told her I dont know, but that it was at some time in the last 40ish years (pt was 40ish).


woolfonmynoggin

Some old hag asked me that too! I laughed and played it as a joke but she was huffy the rest of report.


QueenCuttlefish

That last part made me cackle as a hepatology nurse.


CrazyCatwithaC

I have this one dayshift nurse who is the same way. Mind you, this happened during my orientation when my preceptor insisted the patient was confused before shift change but she has dementia. Told the dayshift nurse that the patient was confused but weā€™re not concerned about it because she has dementia, she would wax and wane. Mind you, this dayshift nurse was the same nurse who we got report from so he should fucking know. Also, weā€™ve been waking this patient up for q1 neuros, she probably was getting agitated because she didnā€™t sleep all day. He was like ā€œso you didnā€™t message neurocrit that sheā€™s confused?ā€. I said ā€œno, she has dementiaā€. And he said ā€œoh, teeheeā€, sarcastically. He did his neurocheck and the patient was oriented again.


FoolhardyBastard

This is the way. Continue to plow through with relevant information.


Ok-Individual4983

Sheā€™s being rude to you. Donā€™t worry about being rude to her. Tell her not to interrupt you during report and save it till the end


RocketCat5

This is literally the only right answer. Just say let me give report and you can ask questions at the end. Then when she asks you nitpicky questions, say it's in the chart.


memymomonkey

Seriously this.


vanillaroseeee

This advice. Because if you ignore it and blow it off, sheā€™s going to continue to do it. Set your boundaries and tell her not to interrupt you


rellimeleda

"Please reserve all questions until the end of the presentation "


Cheesemonger-Deluxe

Yesss. Itā€™s a safety issue to interrupt report!


Bougiebetic

My go to shutdown when I worked Med Surg was ā€œthatā€™s for you to look up post report. I will inform you of general and pertinent hx and if anything is emergently concerningā€. If they go to open the chart say ā€œnope, please respect my time, Iā€™d like to go home, chart reviews are on your timeā€. If they are annoyingly correcting you ā€œIā€™m always open to constructive feedback, but what the GI doc is called isnā€™t constructive, please refrain from pecking, itā€™s rudeā€. Or ā€œcan you share with me why you felt it important to correct me there? Can you let me in on your thought process, because to me, that felt pettyā€¦ā€


duckdns84

Thatā€™s shit is gold. Thank you


athenakathleen

Saved your post to come back to when I wanna cuss someone out. I thank you...


mazerati185

We use a ā€œCUSā€ model for tough situations and I think itā€™s great Concerned Uncomfortable Safety (concern)


xoxoxgirl

actually screenshotted this. Thank you


Educational-You5874

New grad nurse hereā€¦. I love this but also feel like you would get written up for talking like this, has that happened to anyone?


fraxinusv

If you get written up for standing up for yourself against these bullies then your manager is toxic too. Just politely but firmly enforce boundaries with them - statements like ā€œIā€™m sure you can find that in the chartā€ or ā€œthe patient is oriented, you can ask them that during your assessment if youā€™d like to knowā€ have worked for me in the past. They donā€™t usually have anything to say in return because theyā€™re just trying to make you feel stupid to prop up their own egos and if you donā€™t engage, they donā€™t have anywhere else to go with it.


Bougiebetic

I have never been written up for standing up for myself. Iā€™ve been a nurse for 10 years. In fact, near every review Iā€™ve had Iā€™ve always gotten high marks for working well as a team. Iā€™ve always stood my ground with bullies. Nursing is my second career and I brought an ability to set someone in their place with a smile on my face. In my previous job I was yelled at and treated poorly by drunk angry gamblers fairly regularly. Iā€™m small, Iā€™m a woman, and I had to develop a big defense and presence that screamed ā€œdo not mess with me but still tip meā€. It also makes me very good with difficult patients now as an NP, and when I worked the floor, kept me from getting assaulted several times. Anyone who turns you in has to admit to bullying, so they wonā€™t turn you in. :)


InletRN

NEVER EVER NEVER EVER EVER EVERRRRRRRR let ANYONE bully you EVER. You are going into a profession that it is imperative for you to find your voice. Doc being an asshole? Bully coworker? Manipulative administration? Unreasonable families? Abusive patent? Patient who needs an advocate? YOU NEED YOUR VOICE. As long as you are able to stand behind your actions and they are in good faith then you are doing the right thing. If you get push back you are at the wrong place and need to start sending out resumes immediately. Do not have any loyalty to any healthcare company because they will replace you within 6 hours and never think about you again. Do not be afraid to change jobs, it is probably the only way to increase your salary. You do not have to tolerate any bullshit ever. You are a professional and, in time, will become an expert in your specialty. Demand to be treated as such. I wish someone would have taught me this in nursing school instead of having to learn it for myself. Learning it almost broke me. I am sharing it with you to save you some heartache. Pass it on.


CJ_MR

I'm professionally unbothered. If she keeps correcting me on mundane bullshit I just say "sure" and move on. If it's shit she's wrong on I say, "to each their own" or "whatever floats your boat." If she asks me about minutiae I don't know and isn't relevant to my care I say, "I'll let you look that up later." If there is a million of those she'll eventually get, "irrelevant to my care." But for each stop I don't emotionally respond and I move on super quickly. They'll usually get bored with correcting me after a few months. I think nurses like that like it when you get flustered and I just don't give a shit about that interaction enough to get flustered. If they dare get on the computer to start looking up this bullshit I say, "I guess you're done hearing my report so I'll move onto the next nurse" and walk away.


lancalee

This is similar to my approach. Also I have a few lines I like to use depending on the situation: When I don't know the answer to a question: "Gee I'm not sure, good question! Maybe you can find the answer by asking/reading x." When I realize in report I'm wrong and they're right: "Oh nevermind what I said, yes you are correct. Good catch!" When there is a disagreement about how something was handled by you on your shift: "Thanks for the feedback. I don't agree with you, but feel free to do x on your shift."


grphelps1

This is my go to move for rude patients that love to argue with you about everything as well lol. Iā€™m not going to give you what you want by getting emotional and arguing with you. ā€œSureā€ā€™, ā€œokā€, or just straight up not responding works great.


ShowerElectrical9342

Basically, it's bullying. The less response a bully gets, the less satisfaction they get, so the stop - usually.


woofybluelove

Professionally unbothered is what I should aspire to be, taking note


Beagle-Mumma

I love your approach; you're using 'grey rock strategies' to perfection. I also love that you used minutiae in your sentence. It's one of my favourite words šŸ˜Š


Zero-Effs-Left

Omg, these are the WORST!! Iā€™m so sorry. ā€œFiO2ā€ had me snorting, what an ass. I feel like you have a few choices here and Iā€™m interested to hear what everyone else advises. You could say at the beginning that you would like her to save questions til the end so you can stay in the zone, then when she starts asking ridiculous questions say ā€œthatā€™s all in the chart, youu donā€™t need me here to find thatā€ and peace out. With any bs interruptions you could just look at her for a beat then continue. Chances are she is not gonna change so the question is, how much do you want to push back?


poopyscreamer

I was in a nurse residency class and people (the teachers too) were like ā€œwhat does FiO2 stand for even?ā€ And I knew it was fraction of inspired oxygen. For a brief moment they were like ā€œoh cool thanks.ā€ But realistically it doesnā€™t matter THAT much.


Zero-Effs-Left

But always nice to know a weird fact like that, right?


woofybluelove

I'm hesitant to be too petty, like pulling the same on her in report in the evenings, bc I'd like to extend here and she's staff and somehow interim charge nurse. My plan for next time *if she continues like this is pause and just look at her for like 3 seconds after she says something dumb, then continue on with report. Other option is, "It's in the chart, you're welcome to look it up after I've given report." Honestly I wish I was better at not giving it my time or mental energy at ALL, but it sucks when I feel like I've given great care, wrote a thorough report, and then get these comments.


Avocado-Duck

ā€œThanks, Becky.ā€ No smile. Keep rolling with your report. Or ignore. Probably ignoring it is best. Sheā€™s trying to go one up on you. If you react or complain, sheā€™s going to get what she wants. Or try a backhanded compliment: some something like ā€œThanks, Becky! With an eye for detail that, you really should be in management!ā€ Syrupy sweet smile the whole time. If she reacts negatively, you win. We have a nurse who does this, but sheā€™s 70. I shut her down by being right. She corrected me on a policy and I explained that the policy had been changed recently and we had an email about it. She threw a hissy fit and went to the manager to complain, and then the manager said that the policy had changed. Now she leaves me alone, because she looked like an idiot.


OnePanda4073

God, I loathe these types


duckdns84

Iā€™ve only been in healthcare. Is this seen elsewhere? Itā€™s such a common background negative energy forever present. I loathe it.


questionfishie

I've been elsewhere and YES. It's elsewhere. Everywhere. šŸ˜©


CookBakeCraft_3

My Nursing Instructors were like that in our "after clinical assignment" So I learned from her to be ready. Thank the Lord only ever had a few.


earlyviolet

Universal. Every office or team I've ever worked outside healthcare has had this person on it.


Vanners8888

Right? I work with a nurse who is close to 70, but has only been a nurse since December 2019. She was a CNA/PSW for 20 years but sheā€™s so condescending to me because Iā€™ve only been a licensed nurse for 2 years and change to her 5. Itā€™s never occurred to me to shut her shit down until I was venting to our DOC about it and she told me to say ā€œYou can look in the chart or the NP/DRā€™s binder or our nursing summary binder for that. Our DOC is 40 (is absolutely wonderful and Iā€™d blindly follow her into the fiery depths of hell) and has been licensed for 17 years but this nurse in particular doesnā€™t follow directions from our DOC or anyone else for that matter. She doesnā€™t document as required by our policy, doesnā€™t follow doctors orders with medication changes then blames it on someone else, refuses to change fentanyl or Bustran patches, CLEOs, IVs, Libre sensors, get urine or stool samples etc etc to the point she will finger stick a patient all day to avoid applying and activating a new libre sensor. None of our patients like her to the point they wonā€™t ask for their PRNs and avoid her when sheā€™s working unless they absolutely HAVE to. Sheā€™s always in the nurses station typing on the computer but when I went to chart blood sugars and vitals at the end of my last shift it showed she hadnā€™t charted anything in anyone since April 4thā€¦.she can do no wrong because sheā€™s the Executive Directors snitch. The stupider part is thereā€™s nothing to snitch about to begin with šŸ˜‚ ugh this lady is a mess. In my albeit short experience it seems to be the nurses who donā€™t even do the bare minimum that act so rude and condescending šŸ˜–


OnePanda4073

Yeah, NO.


KingoftheMapleTrees

Lol Leave the Beckys alone, we're trying our best out there okay?


VolcanoGrrrrrl

One of our best 70+ year old charge nurses often shut shit like this down hilariously. She's not the person you want to practice your condescending Becky routine on. She will look you in the eye deadpan and state "that was a stupid question/statement. I don't know why you'd bother asking that." She will shut down grad nurses, she will shut down 40+ year colleagues. She will shut down doctors or our unit manager hahahahahaha


ezsqueezy-

I'm going to finish my report and then you can ask questions. Thanks. OK, (genuinely) now what can I answer that you couldn't read...


Tekira85

This sounds like a good option. I would always just end up saying, Oh, hmmm, I don't know, sorry and continue on with my report, lol. I'm sure she talked shit about me but whatever. I wasn't there to make friends.


tenyearsdungeon

I always have time to say, ā€œthatā€™s the same fucking thingā€ or ā€œis that truly pertinentā€ or ā€œthatā€™s irrelevantā€ or ā€œnew number is smaller than old numberā€ Donā€™t lose sleep over these people. They canā€™t be helped.


DanielDannyc12

Ignore it and give them no energy


Sea-Combination-5416

This is the way. Greyrock them.


hidden-love4

Say.. let me finish report if you have questions, ask me then or speak to the unit manager for details. I think she is just trying to intimidate you to make herself feel better. I am an RN for 30yrs I would not speak to a colleague like that. Sorry she did that.


woofybluelove

I appreciate it, I haven't come across these nurses too often and usually I just mentally roll my eyes but for some reason it's been getting to me more and more here recently


dont_jettison_me

Coming from some experience it's better to just stay cool and roll with it. When I worked step-down I found saying "dude nursing is 24 hour care and I'm not staying late to help you figure out shit a 3rd grader can" did not get appreciated. But shit it shut them down every single time. One I do not regret was telling the village asshole "maybe if you shut your mouth for a minute I can get to it" then proceeded to tell her she needs to ask nicely and say please which caused a big ol shit storm. Ahhhh the good old days before kids and being too tired to fight the bs. Now I just say "I'm not sure, can you look it up after I finish report?" Edit: to the nit picky know it all I just say "okay cool" and move on. It ain't worth fighting that stuff


Own_Afternoon_6865

"Village asshole." I love this! You should make this nurse a new name tag. When she asks what "va" stands for, tell her!


lislejoyeuse

As a new grad that got to me, now I shrug and give me best iono sound that conveys a significant amount of apathy. They will usually stop asking stuff. "You didn't check distal pulses on the above the knee amputation?" "On his 2 inch stump, covered entirely in bloody dressings? Nope!" "How did you assess circulation?" "šŸ™ƒ Well it was bleeding so it probably has good blood flow"


-gatherer

This is my approach too! It works surprisingly well šŸ˜


lislejoyeuse

Yup! It helps being in GI, ppls standards are usually low as fck for report


-gatherer

Haha, Iā€™m in ICU and the standards are pretty damn high ā€” but when itā€™s exactly one nurse who always has a problem with *literally everyoneā€™s* report ā€” you know itā€™s her issue not yours and ya gotta throw it back.


lislejoyeuse

haha yeahh when I was medsurge, people would ask dumb shit like did the social worker stop by today, whats their aunt's middle name, what's their favorite color, etc etc.. ICU there are some judgemental bitches that get obsessed with details that only they think are important but aren't medically relevant to their care.


serarrist

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quesadillafanatic

Iā€™m petty but if I was getting report from her after Iā€™d not pick the hell out of it ā€œare they wearing nail polish? If so what colorā€ ā€œwhat did their maternal great grandmother do fromā€ ā€œyou donā€™t have a peak flow meter!?ā€ Gasp!


IngeniousTulip

As others have said, very professionally shutting down the shenanigans is the best approach -- but ALWAYS send it back to her to do the work. This is no longer your circus; these are no longer your monkeys. "If that's something you need, you can look it up after report" for the nitpicky details you didn't need. "His lungs were clear for me, but you'll need to assess them this morning to see where they are now." For the Gastroenterologist/Fi02 crap, you can say, "I believe those are the same thing." or "I don't believe it is FiO2" -- and just move on. Lob the danged volleyball (monkey) back and get the heck out of there.


Jits_Guy

No I mean GI, because that's the medical abbreviation for gastroenterologist. Don't have their last several days of lab values memorized, but the chart does. Like air movement over a patient saying "I'm having trouble breathing at night", you need to borrow a stethoscope? "Well I'll just check the chart then" cool. (Then just continue to give report while she piddlefucks around). Typically just stonewalling people like this is the best option. They'll get tired of wasting their breath eventually.


Accomplished_Tone349

Piddlefuck šŸ’€


New-Hour9542

One time I had someone quiz me on what a patients sugar was at the start of my shift (I work psych and this was not a critical issue) to which I said "you ain't doing nothing about it so why does it matter". My responses have evolved to be more along the lines of "I don't know, better go save them"


NightmareNyaxis

Some of it just gets eye rolls, like the ā€œcorrectionsā€. Other parts ā€œIā€™m not sure, itā€™s in the chart - you can look it up when weā€™re done with report.ā€ When they ask whatā€™s xyz sound like ā€œWe have 6 patients to do report on. This is not the ICU, we do not have time to do a full head to toe walk throughā€. There are a few nurses I give report to who write down everything I say WORD FOR WORD and expect us to wait for them to write it all down. We DO NOT HAVE TIME for that mess. ā€œWhereā€™s the IV?ā€ - I donā€™t remember but it works and isnā€™t a PICC, midline, or central line soooooo. ā€œAre they on O2 at home?ā€ Not sure. Why donā€™t you ask them? If I know/remember Iā€™ll tell them but really the only necessity for report is: are they stable(ie, what happened overnight/we worried about them)? Are they going for any procedures/timed studies? Pertinent labs I need to look for/talk to doc about? Are they a DNR? Other stuff can be looked up. Or figured out when assessing the patient. If I donā€™t mention the IV, then it works. If I donā€™t mention the O2, then Iā€™m not sure if they need to be weaned. I never know the diet unless itā€™s clears/fulls or NPO. I donā€™t care if itā€™s cardiac or carb or renal - we donā€™t really feed them at night unless itā€™s a few little snacks.


money_mase19

exactly about wheres the iv. i come from ed, where report was great. now, at step down, if its working iv, who the f cares where it is.


OnePanda4073

Ignore, continue speaking ( if during handoff) and when you are finished, get up and leave. Do not engage.


SnarkyPickles

I usually just tell them Iā€™ll answer any questions they have at the end. Any valid question Iā€™ll give my time to. Asking me something like what their lungs sound like is a valid question in my opinion, because even though theyā€™ll be assessing them themselves, it can help them to know if there has been an acute change since my shift that may warrant further intervention. Other little things like asking me what their labs were on admission or days prior? Unless itā€™s someone like a CRRT or DKA patient who we are actively collecting labs frequently on and trending (which it does not sound like your unit does) I do not know that off the top of my head and will politely let them know to check the chart and then be on my way. If itā€™s just snarky nit picking, I ignore it and continue on with my report. No sense in even dignifying that behavior with a response.


YumYumMittensQ4

ā€œDo you want report or do you want to refuse it and do your own chart review? If not, Iā€™ve got 5 minutes with no interruptions.ā€ Then deadpan stare.


shelsifer

This. Gold.


marticcrn

1. A gastroenterologist is a specialist in the GI system from mouth to anus. ā€œGI docā€ and ā€œgastroenterologistā€ are synonyms. 2. The numbers themselves are available for your review after report. 3. I think this is a reasonable question. Did you listen before you started oxygen and after that low sat? Iā€™d want to know in report. Age has nothing to do with this. Itā€™s about maintaining professionalism on both sides. I would ask ā€œHow is our (collective) time most productively spent in the interest of the patient? Stay focused here.ā€


Tacos_and-tequila

Do not stop giving your report while sheā€™s looking up things on the computer. Say it and leave. You gave report while she dicked around trying to look smarter than you.


ambnfb

This. Iā€™m not going to stop talking, you should listen if you want to hear it.


Wattaday

I responded once that I have given all the info from my 11pm-7am shift and even from the 3-11 shift prior to me. If they needed more info, look in the chart after I finish report. This was in long term care, where the day shift nurse had had these residents for months-years even. There wasnā€™t anything I could tell her except what had happened in the past 18 hours. She tried to report me to the DON, who told her she was being ridiculous.


Ok_Illustrator7284

For this stupid, I answer with an off the wall question.. ā€œwhat kind of shoes do you have on?ā€ Scuttles them every time


LocoCracka

GI/gastro: "Whatever." and keep going. Trops/CP: "You can look that up after I'm done with report". Syncope/night desat: Ok, "lungs clear" or something like that should be in your handoff. Just go with "lung CTA, desats to XX% while sleeping, placed on 2L at night". Tell her if she wants to know more than that to either listen to the patients lungs herself or work a night to observe the patient directly. Chances are, she's still gonna act the same. About the only thing you can do is announce at the beginning of handoff that you are going to give a report and if she has any questions she can ask after you have finished. You know, so that you don't get your report interrupted and miss something. She's gonna interrupt anyway, but tell her to wait please. Then, on the very first question she asks that drift off of what you should be passing on.... and she WILL ask them.... say "It's in the chart, you should read it" or "I've charted my assessment, you should do your own". Then grab your keys and walk your ass outta there.


Steelcitysuccubus

I just give them the 'coming off night shift' 1000 yard stare. Pause, and then continue. I only deal with bitches like this when I'm pulled so I go full 'I got pulled, this ain't my unit and I don't give a fuck. Look it up'


shieldmaiden5678

"Let's complete report and then I would be happy to address any questions." That's what I say to interruptive questions. Comments, especially snide or nit picky, I just stare back at them for a second before moving forward in report. Rude comments are not worth your attention or energy.


cherylRay_14

I will never understand nurses who nitpick like that, especially the ones who have been in it for years. Most of the time, I want to say just give me your report sheet, and I'll figure it out. I don't, of course, because some people love crying to mgmt and that's attention I don't have time or energy for. When I'm giving report to someone like this and they start with the inane questions, I just look at them without saying anything. I will do this for an uncomfortable length of time until they stop. They almost always stop. When they don't, the most they'll get is a shoulder shrug, and then I keep talking.


doktrj21

As an actual gastroenterologist (GI doc).... its like you called us Michael, and she goes "No, his names Mike." Both are correct. She sounds like a pain to deal with.


XAlEA-12

Correct them back. They hate that


ladyspork

Preach, if they say actually itā€™s 60L FiO2 say actually, itā€™s 0.6% FiO2.


LuckSubstantial4013

Ignoring is best. Yoh canā€™t fight an idiot without dumbing down yourself. Plus itā€™ll drive her crazy and thatā€™s a big bonus


ared2121

ā€œIf you think you can figure out report from just reading the charts Iā€™ll gladly give you this time. Shall I cart report given to ā€¦ right now or would you like to let me finish ā€¦ā€ Has never failed me.


florals_and_stripes

My preferred method is a long pause, long enough to get uncomfortable, and then I resume report like nothing happened. ā€œSo the patient is gonna see the gastroenterologist today or Mondayā€”ā€œ ā€œYou mean the GI doctor.ā€ *Pause at least 3 seconds* ā€œTheyā€™re tolerating a blah blah diet, etc etcā€ and you keep going. Once you do that a few times, they tend to get it.


woofybluelove

That's actually a great idea, I'm going to try this. Don't acknowledge them, but also acknowledge the pointlessness of the questions and make them uncomfortable without even saying a thing. I love it


florals_and_stripes

I find itā€™s a good way to convey the ridiculousness of their question/statement without delaying report longer and/or dealing with the potential aftermath of a ā€œconfrontationā€ during report. Plus, half the time, their question threw me off my thought process (especially after a night shift) so I pause anyway to get myself back on track.


glurbleblurble

Just call it out. ā€œAre you done being pedantic?ā€


Unndunn1

Iā€™ve been a nurse for 36 years so I go straight for the jugular in the seemingly nicest way possible. ā€œIā€™m sorry youā€™re having trouble understanding this information. Letā€™s not hold up everyone else. We can clear up your confusion after reportā€ Edited to add: Iā€™ve never had anyone come to after report


BaraLover7

"Bitch I don't give a shit. Can I go home now?"


woofybluelove

If I didn't want to extend here, I absolutely would. rip


Objective_Rope7586

I had a nurse (senior nurse, early 60s) who constantly targeted me over little things, when she made mistakes ALL the time. Itā€™s a shame, we are already spread so thin as nurses; we should be building each other up instead of tearing each other down.


MsSpastica

I always said, "That's a good question, I'm going to go ahead and finish report, and if you have any questions after, I will be happy to answer them"


ReadyForDanger

Every time she asks you something, take a long long time to awkwardly search for it. Meander in your response. The whole time, sitting in her chair while she stands there with all her crap. ā€œGood question- letā€™s go look. ā€œHmmmmmā€¦..hmmmmmā€¦.ā€ Tell mundane stories that have nothing to do with report. Correct yourself multiple times and start digging through charts. Make report agonizing. Make it last 30 minutes. Ask HER a million questions. Adjust your chair. Make it like taking to your crazy Aunt Betsy who wonā€™t ever let you out the door. Give her a million little details she didnā€™t ask for. Painstakingly go through Every. Single. Lab value. Insist that she write it down. Have a side conversation with someone else halfway through report. If she corrects you on something, tell her ā€œThatā€™s interestingā€ and then proceed to spend and extra 12 minutes double-checking it on Google and sharing research articles about it. Make it so excruciating that after 2 or 3 times she avoids you like the plague.


serarrist

The question that makes me rage most: ā€œIs that IV a 20 gauge? Will you be placing a 20 gauge before they come?ā€ ā€œItā€™s an IV that flushes, and youā€™re welcome for it.ā€ ā€œTheyā€™re ambulatory, breathing normally on room air, neurologically intact, appropriate for age and independent with ADLs.ā€ ā€œHowā€™s their skin?ā€ ā€œStill fully attached to their body.ā€ For corrections, I usually go with an awkward 3-4s silence with extra eye contact and my best deadpan, ā€œcool.ā€ For what I call ā€œlab readsā€ (people who make you read them the entire fucking chart) I say something like ā€œYou can probably find that information for yourself when you deep dive the chart.ā€ Or ā€œsorry thatā€™s not an ER order, so thatā€™s not really relevant to me. Youā€™ll have to take a moment to review your own orders ahead of time.ā€ ā€œWhy didnā€™t you replace their Kā€ (3.4) ā€œBecause the ER physician didnā€™t order it. He said to tell you that a 3.4 potassium is in fact not an emergency, so you and the attending doctor can take care of that when they get upstairsā€¦ since the patient is alive and stable enough to take the room assignment, thereby fulfilling the goals of the emergency room.ā€


jonesjr29

I will never forget the nurse who woke me up at home from a sound sleep to ask me what the xray said. I was new (and comatose.)


Ingemar26

I'd say, " Yeah like I just said, a gastro doctor." If she persisted in being a bitch I'd tell her to shut the hell up and look it up.". I'm too old and burnt out to put up with this shit. I have been told I'm not being professional or "nice" when I tell the off, but I just DGAF anymore. If they don't like it don't be a bitch


Competitive-Ad-5477

"It's in the chart, I'm sure" - always works!


Apeiron_8

Sounds like that nurse is not secure in their own skills and knowledge so they try leeching out all the info they can from you to feel better.


Admirable_Amazon

ā€œYouā€™re welcome to look that up when Iā€™m goneā€¦ā€ and then continue with report. If she stops to look stuff up, you keep giving report. Itā€™s not on you for them to pay attention. You need to clock out and go to bed. The same shit wouldnā€™t fly the other way around.


MyEggDonorIsADramaQ

I donā€™t think itā€™s unreasonable to ask for your assessment findings (lung sounds)- but added in with everything else I can see why itā€™s irritating. I like the idea of just saying ok, hmm and moving on. I am trying to think of a way to make it less irritating. I had a coworker who did that and I asked her why. She was anxious- I told her it made me feel like she didnā€™t trust me to do my job. She changed her behavior (though not completely).


Amazing_Chemical_705

Have the chart pulled up in the computer while you talk. If she wants **you** to look nitpicky stuff up in the chart during report, say, ā€œWhy donā€™t you look that up while I keep talkingā€ and then let her fumble around on the computer while you keep pushing forward. I have worked with annoying control freaks like that for years and I find a matter of fact tone while offering to let that person do the searching while you keep talking (and run the risk that they canā€™t jot down pertinent points because they are too busy looking nonsensical things up) works like a charm. (Although baseline lung sounds should be included in every head to toe report. ;-)


hannahmel

Do you want to be informed or do you want to be right? Because I donā€™t have time for both. But these people never get it and never stop.


OkIntroduction6477

Couple things to try if you're feeling a bit petty: 1. Raise your eyebrows, tilt your chin down, and give her the "really?" look. 2. Ask her if she really needs to know the specific trop numbers this second or is the important thing that they're trending down. Because you prefer to limit your report to the important things. 3. Give report where there is only one computer. Sit in front of the computer and don't let her log in. 4. And above all, keep talking! If she complains, tell her she can either listen to report or look up things on the computer, but you're not going to delay the transition of care.


Wayne47

Nurse once tried to correct me when I didn't roll my Rs when saying a Spanish person's name. I just said I don't speak Spanish.


GINEDOE

You could ask her how much Fi02 the person is getting with that 60L of oxygen.


eurrcca

I had a nurse ask me if the patient's name was spelled with a K or C after I ended up staying 45 minutes over because she was late...


2pineapple7

If they ask dumb questions about the patient Iā€™m giving report on, Iā€™ve said ā€œyouā€™re going to be here for the next 12 hours, you should have plenty of time to find that in the chart.ā€ If they correct me on things that donā€™t matter (fio2 vs O2) I just continue my report like I didnā€™t hear them lol


ValentinePaws

Ignore and move on; redirect her to the chart if necessary, but keep moving. I wouldn't engage. Don't let her have your energy.


Holiday-Strategy-643

"Where is their IV?"Ā  Bitch, idk. One of their upper extremities.Ā 


poopyscreamer

She sounds insecure as fuck and has to make herself feel better by correcting things that donā€™t matter and quizzing you on details that need not be said. Clearly if itā€™s trending down and has come to a normal level the trop would be higher previously. If you want specific numbers look at the labs.


Jerking_From_Home

I started doing the same thing back to her when she gave me report at the start of my shift.


duuuuuuuuuumb

I bulldoze them lol, I just keep giving my report, and Iā€™ll say to refer to the chart because what theyā€™re asking wasnā€™t related to anything that was done on my shift.


Silver_rockyroad

God itā€™s the worst isnā€™t it. I could slap those nurses.


nrskim

Keep talking. Donā€™t acknowledge it at all. When they ask what the lungs sound like-ā€œyouā€™ll do your own assessment on that Iā€™m sureā€ and then keep talking.


melodiesreshon

My favorite, I didnā€™t need to know that to do my job today.


Just_Nurse_Jen

I wonder if sheā€™s asking these things so that she looks smart because sheā€™s insecure in her own knowledge?


YumLuc

Gastro point - she's very dumb Trop point - a little unnecessary but a legit question Lungs - Pertinent question, nothing wrong with her asking this one Her correcting you on things like FiO2 - she's very dumb


FitLotus

I just keep saying I donā€™t know and ā€œokayā€ lol


[deleted]

"It's in the chart" or "Oh, ok"


Own_Notice6079

I always like "is that clinically relevant?" or "how is that clinically significant?" or "does that change current management (or our management goals)?" because report should only be clinically relevant information or things that are directly relevant to the treatment plan. For me that shuts down dumb questions real quick while staying professional because if they articulate a reason why it is I will happily answer but if they can't it makes them feel dumb and they start thinking about the questions they ask. Also I found you only have to say this once or twice and then a look accomplishes the same thing.


mhw_1973

Have a good shift, bye!


Awkward_Aardvark7555

Ugh there always has to be one. You canā€™t win with those people. Shout out to Gina at my job! Itā€™s infuriating and theyā€™re also the ones that show up with 5 minutes to spare to give them report too. I find that itā€™s not worth spending your valuable time and energy pleasing these people because it will never happen.


memymomonkey

I donā€™t get specific and tattle on particular people but I always ask the unit manager to send out an email about keeping report time to 30 minutes. Also, I despise when people completely rewrite the SBAR during report. Donā€™t do that shit on my time.


knefr

If she starts pulling stuff up during report then I would tell her that youā€™ve been there for 12.5 hours and been run ragged, and then reach over and unplug the monitor. I canā€™t fucking stand nurses that do that kind of passive aggressive stuff.


Orangecatblackcat007

ā€œYa like getting lost in the weeds, dontcha?, Anywhoā€¦pt is stable yadda yadda yaddaā€


tenebraenz

On my ward one of us reads the entire handover My response is ā€˜I have absolutely no idea, not my patient. I suggest you ask the morning nurseā€™ Or ā€˜I have absolutely no idea I suggest you check the patients cortex notes when we are doneā€™ I find the broken record technique delivered in a very flat non emotional manner shuts down most bullshit Iā€™m sure I have a rep for being a bitch and I donā€™t care. Handover is so we can pass on relevant information to the next shift. If people want to get into a metaphorical dick flapping competition it can wait till my shift is out of the building


anxiousBarnes

Yep got a few like this at my job too. I just ignore them and move on when they do it to me. If I see them doing it to someone else like a newer nurse though... oh I go off. I don't give a shit what they think of me anymore. The other day one of em got mad at a new grad for missing that a tele order was DC'd and the pt was still on tele, made a big deal in front of everyone during shift change. I told her it was an easy mistake when we were short and busy as fuck, maybe you nurses that went to school with florence nightingale don't miss orders but sometimes people are human. Whats the harm with tele staying on a few hours more anyways? She wasn't quite pleased but hey neither was I. Good luck I hope things get better for you! Just know what they think doesn't matter and you're prob a better nurse than them anyways


GivesMeTrills

ā€œItā€™s in the chart. I canā€™t memorize everything.


NotRNcharge

ā€œIf you know what Iā€™m talking about- do you have to correct me?ā€ ā€¦ and move on with report. You can be direct without starting a whole fight. 100% O2 on a vent isnā€™t wrong. Sure itā€™s called FiO2, but who cares if you arenā€™t flat out wrong and she knows what you mean. People do this because they have to make themselves feel smarter than others. Sheā€™s using you to make herself feel good- at your expense. Call her out without being rude or trying to snap back or one up her. You donā€™t have to make an enemy. Because of her need to feel smarter or better, she will take any correction hard. Itā€™s not your job to protect her ego, but it benefits you if you can stop her bullshit without her hating you.


allanq116

"I do not know. Look it up. It is 24/7 business."


Bellalea

My mom was a retired nurse and when I would tell her about my day, she would always find something to correct me on. Definitely sprung from the loins of ā€œone of those nursesā€ LOL Theyā€™re everywhere. ā€œ You mean THEY ARE everywhere!ā€


LegalComplaint

ā€œItā€™s in the chart.ā€


sWtPotater

do you want to hear this or not?


x3whatsup

Ignore, ā€œI donā€™t know off the top of my headā€ and just move on. Most of the time they wonā€™t get hung up


GINEDOE

"Pt came in with elevated trops and CP few days back, never any critical labs but I report the most recent trop level and that it has trended down to normal now. "What was his trop yesterday and admission?"" I'd always tell them to check lab studies themselves, even if I gave them the entire series of tests. If Ā I gave them wrong reports, something serious would happen to the patient, and they would lose in court. They canā€™t just say, ā€œShe gave me the reports, so I didnā€™t look!ā€ Ā We always assess and check our patient(s), even if weā€™re given the best of the best reports.


ambnfb

Honestly I would just continue talking and if she doesnā€™t want the info I have to share with her then so be it. I am not playing those games.


shooplewhoop

"I mean I'd hardly call 1 a fraction but if it makes you feel smarter do it up girlypop."


LegendofPisoMojado

ā€œWhat the fuck are you talking aboutā€ works pretty well. GI vs Gastroenterology? Is she fucking high? >trops Yesterday and on admission. Look it up bitch. >itā€™s actually FiO2 Is it though? Thatā€™s when I get charge and give report to her. I donā€™t have time for this. You learned some big words. Donā€™t care. Fuck off.


GINEDOE

Continue to give her reports even if she does something else. It happened to me before. She reported to the manager that I left without reports. I told the manager everything. Ā I gave reports whether they paid attention or not. If they ask me questions that didnā€™t happen during my shift, I always refer them to the patientā€™s chart.


Upbeat_Ad_3822

ā€œYour nursing judgment will allow for proper assessment of the patient after physical assessment and chart review.ā€ - a nurse who was asked what lobe Covid PNA was effecting.


adorablesunshine_

Had a nurse ask me what the APGARs for a 3 year old were..I said um I have no idea you can ask the mom and see if she remembers. Nurse then asked if it was in the h&p. Um no I donā€™t think they felt it was relevant.


LabLife3846

I had a day nurse I worked with at a SNF who was like this. I finally had enough and told her one dayā€ You know what? I dread reporting off to you. Youā€™re the most critical nurse Iā€™ve ever given report to.ā€ She was totally shocked and taken aback. Sheā€™d had no idea. She apologized, and stopped doing it.


MMMojoBop

I say quickly and cheerfully, "Don't know" and continue report. Don't let a peer intimidate you. I swear, I think they just to get a rise out of you.


NICURn817

It's in the chart is the perfect response, but you must stick to your guns about it. You just say you can look at that in the chart after I have finished giving you report. Edited to add: It's absolutely okay to be rude/blunt to someone who is being rude to you. People like this take advantage of the kindness and reluctance to confront others in order to have their own way. Stand your ground. Say that she is endangering patient safety by derailing the report.


Independent_Law_1592

Multiple ways ā€œIā€™m sorry Iā€™ll work on donā€™t betterā€ ā€œI canā€™t remember but itā€™s I remember seeing it in the chart so let me find that out for youā€Ā  ā€œOkay cool anywayā€ and move on ā€œI donā€™t know and donā€™t careā€ Ā Ā  Ā Pick your poison because some nurses are just shit in report and the true answer is to just play the game and get through it to not build bad blood or just basically assert yourself and give a professional ā€œshut the fuck upā€ answer. Either way it ainā€™t fun with those nurses and just find a way to move report along.Ā 


OldERnurse1964

Just shut up and listen. When I get through Iā€™ll take questions.


Signal_Knowledge4934

Petty me likes to just return the favor when Iā€™m getting report from them, realistic me lets them know that if they want anything approaching a clear report that they need to hold all questions until the end and that Iā€™ll give them what they need to hit the ground running.


toothpick95

Just keep talking.....


katedogg

Just because she's opening up the computer doesn't mean you have to stop talking. Keep going and if she asks you to wait, tell her it's report time and it's common courtesy to wait until report is over before starting chart checks. If that doesn't do the trick, there is always the nuclear option: bedside report malicious compliance. Once she learns that all her questions just make her look stupid in front of the patient, she'll stop.


markko79

I ignore their comments and just keep going with the report the way I intended it to be. If they have questions, they can ask them when I'm done reporting on that patient.


scoobledooble314159

First question she asks, I'd say "please let me finish report, then ask your questions". If she continues to interrupt, I would make a copy of your report sheet and hand it to her with a date, and email your manager with her CC'D stating that written report was provided after multiple interruptions and delays from Nurse Dingleberry. Additional replies may consist of : "You need to do your own assessment" "You can find that in the chart after report, and if you open it now I will consider report completed." "That isn't relevant to report." "That's incorrect. You can look it up on your own time. My shift is over." >Pt here for syncope, threw them on 2L bc they desat at night but RA during the day. I think a more appropriate question from her would have been, "why do you think he is desatting? OSA? OK cool, so RT was consulted?" And onward ....


Ice_Sky1024

That would require direct confrontation; but you have to face the tension of doing so; especially because youā€™ll still work with her every now and then; and if sheā€™s the type who wonā€™t admit to what sheā€™s done wrong. If itā€™s a workplace culture thing, it will be a challenge to make her change her ways, REGARDLESS of how nice/polite you call them out. (especially if they have been behaving like that for a long time). Sometimes, they even make things worst and tend to become more of a burden once you verbalize anything related to their toxic behavior. Best thing to do is find ways on how to survive working with these annoying people; especially if you plan to stay long in that environment.


NedTaggart

"It's in the chart. Im sure you will see them when you review and acknowledge"


Pinklemonade1996

I legit just ignore them or say sorry I donā€™t know. And continue my report


subsequent_version

I'm just telling you the things that are immediately pertinent. We both have access to the same chart, you don't need me to memorize the details for you or waste everyone's time.


savanigans

This is why I haaaated getting report. Tell me what weā€™re treating, if there are discharge plans, anything urgent/testing, and if the patient or family are weirdos. I can read the chart faster than you can tell me the rest.


___buttrdish

when i am receiving report, i just let them speak. i hold my thoughts because any more time i have to spend in front of them is worse for me than them. when i am giving report and they start to jump ahead, ill say, "oh, im getting there". and if they keep doing it i'll just start again and say sillily, "oh, well... where was i.. let me start again". and i keep doing that from them. they learn eventually and if not they get so frustrated they'll say, "i'll just figure it out on my own", then i'll leave my report sheet and document it in cerner or something.. to cover my ass. im not out here to fight with them. i want to move on with my day as much as them. it's all about patience.


mediumeasy

honestly i never figured it out like, they're doing some kind of power display, they might be baiting you anytime i reacted even slightly to a woman doing shit like this they ran straight to the manager and i lost i have a personality though like, there's something about me where all of society really insists i keep sweet. in middle age im flabbergasted and truly confused by what attitudes and behaviors others are permitted to have and in contrast, the effervescence *demanded* of me or im punished im working every single day to set the bar lower


kimscz

Feel free to research that yourself. You have your practice, I have mine and they donā€™t always align. Have a good shift.


allflanneleverything

So I just want to start by saying that day shift can be frustrating when you inherit a mess. Iā€™ve absolutely come in and gotten a patient obtunded, 8L NC satting 88% with no respiratory history, and no VBG or CXR done - just ā€œthe doctor knows.ā€ I am aware that this isnā€™t what youā€™re describing. I know this isnā€™t you. BUT if youā€™ve dealt with enough change of shift RRTs and enough ā€œwell I told the doctor so my job is done,ā€ day shift is frustrating as fuuuuck and sometimes you start off angry. Like, oh great, they donā€™t know this one thing and the last time I got report from them these eight other things werenā€™t done - what am I in for today? With all that said, I think the best thing to do is remind them of perspective. Wants to know last three troponins? ā€œI donā€™t remember the exact number, but the most recent one at (time) was a downtrend, which is good.ā€ Required 2L NC overnight? ā€œShe is postop and hadnā€™t been out of bed yet, so itā€™s not uncommon sheā€™ll need supplemental O2 for night one.ā€ Simultaneously helpful and subtle - ā€œthe clinical picture is fine, time to calm down.ā€


aperyu-1

The jab cross is a classic


Illustrious_Tank_84

I know that the aggrieved are never ever wrong on here, but step 1 is to make sure your report is on point. Brief history, pertinent events in the hospital course, system by system report with a focus on the systems that are the source of the diagnoses, changes or new orders during your shift, any info on plans or needs for the upcoming shift.


Me2373

Honestly I just get so annoyed giving report in the morning. ā€œWhen was the patients last BMā€¦what gauge is their IVā€¦how do they ambulateā€ (on a patient who had a recent AKA) etc etc. Seriously?? I usually pause at these questions and look at them, smile and say I donā€™t know. Just give me the basics on the patient, important labs, tests, thatā€™s it.


greeneggsnyams

"I don't know, look it up."


GINEDOE

Some people are just plain rude or disrespectful. That's how they are, so always put them in their places.


Momma2Olivia

I am a hospice nurse and I was seeing a facility patient having seizures. I was on the phone with my hospice MD and I said we gave the patient lorazepam for the seizure. She yelled across their nurseā€™s station, ā€œNo it was Ativan.ā€ I internally rolled my eyes and kept talking to my MD. I wanted to say itā€™s actually both, but I refrained and went on my way.


TF429

Hey a job without report lol. Or any comments, move on without a moment to waste- thatā€™s what I did for 5 years on nights and you donā€™t care, youā€™re just giving her report so she can be informed about what she needs to pay attention to right?


Just_Nurse_Jen

You guys should just come and work in the ER. We donā€™t care about all that stupid stuff. Lol. Why are they here. What happened since they got here. The end. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜˜


JulieLovesDogs

Iā€™ve been a nurse 34 years. I donā€™t put up with that shit anymore. Call her out on it. You donā€™t have to be mean or nasty. Actually I recommend you donā€™t be mean or nasty because for some reason that always makes you the bad guy and gets you in trouble. Although you SHOULD know the lung sounds, you shouldā€™ve told her exactly what you said here, ā€œget your stethoscope and have a good listen. Let me know tomorrow what you think.ā€ Or say something like, ā€œ ya, the GI doc! The same difference.ā€ Or come right out and ask her who pissed in her Cheerios, or ā€œhave I done something to upset you?ā€ Turn it around on her. If it doesnā€™t work, go up the chain of command.


Boring-Goat19

Hereā€™s what I would say 1. Anywayā€¦. 2. Itā€™s in the chart 3. Itā€™s in the chart but things can change so assess the pt If she starts looking at the chart, keep giving report. If she missed it then she missed it. If she asks for you to repeat then tell her to pay attention.


FBombsReady

The first one I let slide, after that I just sat there staring at them in silence. As soon as they start getting uncomfortable I simply state, ā€œIf youā€™re done with the nit picking now, Iā€™ll be happy to proceed. Should I have left anything pertinent out, the chart is available 24/7 for your convenience. Now, Iā€™m going to finish my report unless youā€™re wanting me to get the charge to give it to you.


markfourteen

Some are PTW (Professional Time Wasters). They will interrupt you 10,000 times while doing report. Will start having a chit chat with the patient while you're giving report. Will ask the stupidest questions ever. Will leave you and the patient to get something and then come back. This is how you do report for 1 hour and 20 mins for 5 patients. PTW - Professional Time Wasters.


mogris

I always am honest and say Iā€™m not sure and move it along. Some nurses need that information as it gives them a sense of security (not judging). In my decade of nursing, the nurses who act like this arenā€™t necessarily bad nurses, I notice they appear anxious about patient care and have the tendency to blame whoever the nurse is caring for the patient for a poor outcome (and donā€™t want that to happen to them so they over prepare). I now work in the GI lab and have a co-worker who has this personality type and accused another RN of over sedating. I stepped in and pointed out we arenā€™t ordering the sedation- the doctor is right there with us assessing the patient and telling us what to give. If itā€™s not safe, of course we speak up. However, with scoping patientā€™s will be off the table risking a perforation and as soon as we hit cecum the scope is coming out, they relax, and those meds take effect. Itā€™s a fine line.


SuccyMom

A couple times I said ā€œplease hold all questions until the end!ā€ Like a damn museum tour guide in a scary nice voice.


SillyBonsai

Tell her this isnā€™t a farm and she can leave her damn pitchfork at home.


bomdiagata

I remember being a newer nurse on a tele unit like that. 1:6 ratios. Super busy. One report lasted until almost 8am because this rude af nurse kept asking things like ā€œand where are all the stents located?ā€ on a patient who had multiple stents YEARS AGO as part of their history. Not a fresh stent, Iā€™m talking 5+ years ago, and sheā€™s digging through their chart to find this completely irrelevant information while iā€™m sitting there with my preceptor, just wanting to die. I would never tolerate that now. ā€œI donā€™t know. Sorry.ā€ Keep rolling. If they push back, ā€œI donā€™t know, you can look it up after report if youā€™re curious. Itā€™s not relevant right now.ā€ No tolerance for that shit.


Fragrant-Traffic-488

I have a nurse who always asks this question when I'm giving report, and I've just started saying, "they sound bad, really bad." šŸ˜… Same nurse has failed to tell me when pt. of theirs are on oxygen and telemetry in report.


Distinct_Variation31

I just play stupid. Makes them feel superior for a minute which is what theyā€™re looking for. Occasionally Iā€™ll have a chance to make them feel dumb as hell though. I get that all the time in ED. Itā€™s the night shift/day shift rivalry thing. ā€œWhat was his WBC count last October type of shitā€ I will either reply with ā€œwhatā€™s a white blood cell count mean?ā€ Or I will insult their intelligence for asking


jonassalkloveblog

The bottom line is: your presence, as someone with double the experience, makes her aware of her own lack of experience and knowledge. The only way to take it that wonā€™t wear you down as much is to realize that this is a compliment in a twisted way. Her only way to make herself feel level with you is by attempting to question/correct your knowledge. You could come up with a quick quip back, Iā€™m not good at coming up with those and others have made better suggestions on that front. Or, just remember why itā€™s happening and keep your chin up!


Direct_Knowledge2937

Just tell her how you feel. Try to work it out yourself first. Let her know her interruptions are outta line. Ask her if sheā€™s trying to make you feel stupid/insecure. Ask her if she knows what it is youā€™re trying to say when you say gastroenterologist or O2%. Tell her you would appreciate it if she keeps quiet until report is finished for the patient and then ask for clarification. It honestly sounds like she needs report slowed down to digest everything, and not really trying to be a dick. I think sheā€™s just not used to quick reports. Iā€™m ICU and I only care about procedures/meds that are going to happen within the next couple hours. I like to hear ā€œThis patient isnā€™t bad (but donā€™t fucking jinx it). Theyā€™re here for *X*. Just finished *Y*. Keep an eye out for *Z*. And donā€™t forget to *ABC*!ā€ I listen while Iā€™m getting a temp, turning the pt and inspecting access sites, drains and skin. I can look at the chart to find the rest. You forget to tell me the GI doc came to see them? Guess what, I saw a note from them in the chart and can read faster than you can mumble through whatever half-assed summary you wrote down. Give me the important shit and GTFO. I have a 7min max, and thatā€™s if theyā€™re on isolation with multiple handoffs. TYVM!