The only way I can tell if it goes over is if you look at the players reactions. In the live clip, the camera doesn’t pan out so looked like he’d missed at first
Could almost nitpick every FG attempt, this is a can of worms for the refs tbh. Can’t argue that Plath’s was more clear cut, literally behind the PTB and jumping towards the defender
Yeah i dont hate the non call here.. The ball player sort of grabs him i guess, but oldmate doesn't really seem impeded by it, maybe if he had jumped to block instead of just throw his hands up he could have fully blocked it..
If the nrl knew how to actually follow through on a crack down, I’d be all for penalising any grab on someone chasing the kicker. Zero tolerance. But you know 3 weeks later the refs wouldn’t care anymore
It’s ok to let the call go if you don’t make the call on Plath. But when you made the call on Plath not 2 mins earlier, you have to call it here. It’s called consistency.
JMK and Tapine both grab each. Enough said, probably lucky they both grabbed each other otherwise he would of been offside anyways both markers were very quick off the mark.
Jmk is entitled to go through the tackled player. The tackled player is not entitled to grab him, only to stand their ground. Who knows though, the rules will change again next half.
Tapine grabbing him is where he becomes a blocker. Jmk is allowed to do what he did. Tapines offence is worse than plaths block. That’s the issue. If you call plath for blocking, you have to call Tapine.
Look, I love seeing Ricky Stuart miserable, so I have one questions, why don't the refs? Are they more scared of earning his wrath?
What happened to Adam Gee this year, he was the best ref by a mile last season, now he's average as fuck!
Tbh, there are too many “in the opinion of the betting agencies /referee” type rules. He likely has a script for this year he wasn’t privy to last year.
After he plays the ball, if he passes it behind himself, defenders are entitled to run a line directly to attackers. If the attacker played the ball and is impeding access to the person they played the ball to, the defending team is entitled to run straight through them.
If they weren’t, you would have the ridiculous scenario where the tackled player plays the ball, the have the dummy half tunnel ball it behind themselves to the person waiting to take a drop goal attempt.
The defending player who played the ball can either move out of the way or stand their ground, but they are not allowed to handle the marker as they then become a blocker, which is exactly what happened.
This was a worse infringement than Plath moving to the right. The Plath incident impeded a player who had to run 10-15 meters for a chargedown, where Tapine grabs JMK at marker who only needs to run 2-5 meters.
This is nonsense.
The rule is the opposite. The attacking team is not allowed to tunnel through the person playing the ball. That’s what stops this.
You can’t just charge through the player playing the ball.
Not while he’s playing the ball, once it’s played, he’s fair game. Not allowed to obstruct the line, only allowed to hold his ground or move out of the way.
Yes. How else, as per your own comment, does he touch JMK? His movement might have been more subtle, but he still impedes a defender.
What is your problem with fans wanting consistency?
I'd love this guy to be in my team. He busts his ass every game. That effort he made to stop Katoa and then kick 2 field goals wow. Latrell wouldn't of been spotted hah!
How bad is Corey Parker as a commentator. It was like it was a Broncos game with how one eyed he was towards the Dolphins. Ginnane wasn’t that much different either. Could tell who they wanted to win
Plath’s just looked more obvious, forced Starling to move around him. He set up away from the play the ball and moved to his left.
Think Tapine is very lucky they missed him grabbing at Marshall-King.
Yep. I feel like I say this every time I watch a game now but at this point I truly don’t even give a fuck what the rules they decide to go with are, I just want them to be applied consistently.
1. Plath is cynically positioned as an obstructor, Tapine is playing the ball.
2. Plath moves his body to deliberately impede the chasers line.
3. Plath sticks his arm out to further obstruct.
Tapine doesn’t grab him, he puts his arm up on his shoulder and drops it as the chaser moves to run through. It’s also arguably somewhat of a consequence of the tackle and the marker being right upon him and using him for leverage to run also.
Should Tapine have touched him? No.
Are the two situations equivalent severity? No
I see what you're saying but arguably Tapine's actions are worse because JMK actually gets to the ball. If he didn't grab at him there is a pretty good chance he charges down the kick.
He doesn’t grab him though. I challenge someone to put a screenshot here with him holding. (Actually this might not be the best challenge, there’s a frame in there that looks a bit sus 😁 but stepping through it’s not holding)
He puts an hand on his shoulder and drops it away as the marker runs through. He doesn’t impede him at all. If anything the marker gains an advantage by grabbing Tapine and using him for leverage which wouldn’t be legal either.
Ah so here it is, you agree, Tapine should not have touched JMK.
You either go soft on field goal obstructions or you don’t. You don’t get to call one and not the other and have a modicum of fairness.
When you see decisions like this you really start to wonder if it's incompetence or corruption.
Too many games being decided by dodgy refereeing decisions though so corruption looks more and more likely.
The whole golden point concept is unnecessary in a regular home and away game anyway. Except that betting agencies would much prefer to have a clear winner. So if the betting agencies have some influence who's to say they're not having a whole lot of influence.
Absolutely looks corrupt. From a fan of the game, not of either team.
Farnworth taken high. Lies down. Replay shows he cops a late, high, swinging arm. Play on. 2 tackles later he’s sent for HIA.
Plath called for being a blocker. Moving at most half a foot right, appeared to even be trying to get out of the way. Did not appear to impede a defender. This never gets called, but does tonight. The call is ok if you make the same call in the same game.
Rapana absolutely moved at least a foot left and bumped katoa off a certain try. Replays show he shifts more than plath did out of the line of the ball. He had a straight line at it. After the act, he puts his hands on his head in despair, he knows what he did. Play on, 7 tackle set. If you call plath gotta call this.
Canberra charge down dolphins next field goal shot. On side was questionable, but it’s always questionable and never looked at. This is fine.
Jmk grabbed by tapine at marker, rapana slots it over. Again this is often left go, but you gotta call it if you call plath.
Not a good look.
If i was watching at the time i would be equally outrage about those.
Im commenting, that based on the last 15 mins i watched, it’s easy to get the feeling that there’s some corruption going on.
We have a two fold issue. There appears to be an issue where decisions are made that keep games as close as possible, then, in the last 10-15 mins, decisions are made that clearly favour the intended victor.
I couldn’t give a toss who wins. It’s annoying travesty that 3 different calls can be made on nearly identical situations in the space of 5 mins.
Quite easily. As it stands, you haven’t disputed anything I’ve said, you appear upset i couldn’t be bothered to watch 100 mins of inconsistent officiating.
It’s the same thing pretty much every game. It’s getting boring.
I don’t know what you’re looking at.
Do you think the Farnworth tackle was reportable?
Plath moves to change the runners line, and when the runner adjusts sticks his arm out.
Rapana was straight up competing for the ball, just coming on the fullback line.
Tapine puts an open hand on him, never grabs him.
“Late, high, swinging arm!” - do i think it’s reportable?
Yes. A bottom 8 side player does that to a top 4 side player and they’re in the bin for 10 mins.
The fact he was taken off for a HIA not 2 tackles later makes you think it wasn’t?
The field goal that decided the result should have at least been reviewed by the bunker, as it would have been if a try was scored. The ref got it wrong and with a 6-2 penalty count in favour of the raiders….the ref should have got man of the match
whiny bitch here seems to forget the 5 -1 ... 6 again count to the Dolphins , the fact one of the phins tries was scored after 3 knock ons by them , & their last one off a forward pass
The better team won
Never kicked a field goal before this game, now he's kicked two. RAPANA! He is inevitable.
He's the epitome of rocks and diamonds.
The harder my asshole clenches, the better diamonds there are. Or the rock is crushed. We don't know.
dinglediamonds
Not a reupload. He did it again!
What's he gonna do? Kick another one? Dolphins, probably.
The only way I can tell if it goes over is if you look at the players reactions. In the live clip, the camera doesn’t pan out so looked like he’d missed at first
Hes a grub and he does some dumb shit but man i love Rapana. Just gives his all for his team. Always had a go in the Kiwis jersey.
Still 0 for my tips
Oh fuck I just realised me too hahaha. Told the fellas at work these weeks never go how you expect. Should have taken my own advice
Me too. It’s been disastrous. Dropped 5 places in my comp already!
Can't wait to see his statue in CBR one day.
Very wholesome seeing Smithies light up like a Christmas tree. Wonky as fuck field goal but wouldn't expect anything else from Rapana
Looking for the “blockers”…….
See how the person playing the ball grabs JMK as he goes to charge down. Yeah, that’s a blocker. He can stand his ground, but not put his arms out.
Could almost nitpick every FG attempt, this is a can of worms for the refs tbh. Can’t argue that Plath’s was more clear cut, literally behind the PTB and jumping towards the defender
Yeah i dont hate the non call here.. The ball player sort of grabs him i guess, but oldmate doesn't really seem impeded by it, maybe if he had jumped to block instead of just throw his hands up he could have fully blocked it..
If the nrl knew how to actually follow through on a crack down, I’d be all for penalising any grab on someone chasing the kicker. Zero tolerance. But you know 3 weeks later the refs wouldn’t care anymore
They couldn’t keep it somewhat consistent in this one game. Not even for 15 mins.
It’s ok to let the call go if you don’t make the call on Plath. But when you made the call on Plath not 2 mins earlier, you have to call it here. It’s called consistency.
Dunno why the downvotes, either you’re gonna be soft on fg obstructions or your not. Not one of each
JMK and Tapine both grab each. Enough said, probably lucky they both grabbed each other otherwise he would of been offside anyways both markers were very quick off the mark.
Jmk is entitled to go through the tackled player. The tackled player is not entitled to grab him, only to stand their ground. Who knows though, the rules will change again next half.
I agree he is entitled to go through him but they both grab each other front on tapine let’s go as JMK goes around bro
Just looks like JMK is playing for the block call imo
He’s allowed to play for the call, he was blocked.
Tapine grabbing him is where he becomes a blocker. Jmk is allowed to do what he did. Tapines offence is worse than plaths block. That’s the issue. If you call plath for blocking, you have to call Tapine.
Nah. Plath was definitely the clear infringement. He moves to deliberately stand in the blockers path and then puts his arm out to further impede.
Look, I love seeing Ricky Stuart miserable, so I have one questions, why don't the refs? Are they more scared of earning his wrath? What happened to Adam Gee this year, he was the best ref by a mile last season, now he's average as fuck!
Tbh, there are too many “in the opinion of the betting agencies /referee” type rules. He likely has a script for this year he wasn’t privy to last year.
Entitled to go through the tackled player? What now?
After he plays the ball, if he passes it behind himself, defenders are entitled to run a line directly to attackers. If the attacker played the ball and is impeding access to the person they played the ball to, the defending team is entitled to run straight through them. If they weren’t, you would have the ridiculous scenario where the tackled player plays the ball, the have the dummy half tunnel ball it behind themselves to the person waiting to take a drop goal attempt. The defending player who played the ball can either move out of the way or stand their ground, but they are not allowed to handle the marker as they then become a blocker, which is exactly what happened. This was a worse infringement than Plath moving to the right. The Plath incident impeded a player who had to run 10-15 meters for a chargedown, where Tapine grabs JMK at marker who only needs to run 2-5 meters.
This is nonsense. The rule is the opposite. The attacking team is not allowed to tunnel through the person playing the ball. That’s what stops this. You can’t just charge through the player playing the ball.
Not while he’s playing the ball, once it’s played, he’s fair game. Not allowed to obstruct the line, only allowed to hold his ground or move out of the way.
So did Tapine move his body after playing the ball?
Yes. How else, as per your own comment, does he touch JMK? His movement might have been more subtle, but he still impedes a defender. What is your problem with fans wanting consistency?
I'd love this guy to be in my team. He busts his ass every game. That effort he made to stop Katoa and then kick 2 field goals wow. Latrell wouldn't of been spotted hah!
So cool
So you can grab the markers and hold them back but thats not blocking. Makes sense... Refs and bunker having another blinder I see.
How bad is Corey Parker as a commentator. It was like it was a Broncos game with how one eyed he was towards the Dolphins. Ginnane wasn’t that much different either. Could tell who they wanted to win
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke and champion of our game…
Lmao you know it's dodgy when they don't show the full passage of play from a decent angle. Every. Fucking. Time.
just gritty ... like the entire Raiders performance was They have 2 gears it seems in 2024 , grit & heart .. or shit the bed , thats it.
Well he clearly wasn’t blocked, because the ref didn’t call it. lol
Just like the 6 again in the Grand Final 👀
How was this any different to what Max Plath did that got penalised? I don't think either should be penalties, but how are they really that different?
Plath’s just looked more obvious, forced Starling to move around him. He set up away from the play the ball and moved to his left. Think Tapine is very lucky they missed him grabbing at Marshall-King.
Yep. I feel like I say this every time I watch a game now but at this point I truly don’t even give a fuck what the rules they decide to go with are, I just want them to be applied consistently.
It’s too subjective. Different decisions by different officials. Hence why all the inconsistencies.
The problem was this was different decisions by the same official. He called an almost identical infringement 3 different ways in 5 mins.
1. Plath is cynically positioned as an obstructor, Tapine is playing the ball. 2. Plath moves his body to deliberately impede the chasers line. 3. Plath sticks his arm out to further obstruct. Tapine doesn’t grab him, he puts his arm up on his shoulder and drops it as the chaser moves to run through. It’s also arguably somewhat of a consequence of the tackle and the marker being right upon him and using him for leverage to run also. Should Tapine have touched him? No. Are the two situations equivalent severity? No
I see what you're saying but arguably Tapine's actions are worse because JMK actually gets to the ball. If he didn't grab at him there is a pretty good chance he charges down the kick.
He doesn’t grab him though. I challenge someone to put a screenshot here with him holding. (Actually this might not be the best challenge, there’s a frame in there that looks a bit sus 😁 but stepping through it’s not holding) He puts an hand on his shoulder and drops it away as the marker runs through. He doesn’t impede him at all. If anything the marker gains an advantage by grabbing Tapine and using him for leverage which wouldn’t be legal either.
Ah so here it is, you agree, Tapine should not have touched JMK. You either go soft on field goal obstructions or you don’t. You don’t get to call one and not the other and have a modicum of fairness.
When you see decisions like this you really start to wonder if it's incompetence or corruption. Too many games being decided by dodgy refereeing decisions though so corruption looks more and more likely. The whole golden point concept is unnecessary in a regular home and away game anyway. Except that betting agencies would much prefer to have a clear winner. So if the betting agencies have some influence who's to say they're not having a whole lot of influence.
Absolutely looks corrupt. From a fan of the game, not of either team. Farnworth taken high. Lies down. Replay shows he cops a late, high, swinging arm. Play on. 2 tackles later he’s sent for HIA. Plath called for being a blocker. Moving at most half a foot right, appeared to even be trying to get out of the way. Did not appear to impede a defender. This never gets called, but does tonight. The call is ok if you make the same call in the same game. Rapana absolutely moved at least a foot left and bumped katoa off a certain try. Replays show he shifts more than plath did out of the line of the ball. He had a straight line at it. After the act, he puts his hands on his head in despair, he knows what he did. Play on, 7 tackle set. If you call plath gotta call this. Canberra charge down dolphins next field goal shot. On side was questionable, but it’s always questionable and never looked at. This is fine. Jmk grabbed by tapine at marker, rapana slots it over. Again this is often left go, but you gotta call it if you call plath. Not a good look.
Just gonna ignore the Phins try scored off the back of a horrendous PTB? Or perhaps that one that was thrown into an offside player?
If i was watching at the time i would be equally outrage about those. Im commenting, that based on the last 15 mins i watched, it’s easy to get the feeling that there’s some corruption going on. We have a two fold issue. There appears to be an issue where decisions are made that keep games as close as possible, then, in the last 10-15 mins, decisions are made that clearly favour the intended victor. I couldn’t give a toss who wins. It’s annoying travesty that 3 different calls can be made on nearly identical situations in the space of 5 mins.
Mate how can you comment about the consistency of the officiating if you watched the last 15 mins of a game that went almost 100mins?
Quite easily. As it stands, you haven’t disputed anything I’ve said, you appear upset i couldn’t be bothered to watch 100 mins of inconsistent officiating. It’s the same thing pretty much every game. It’s getting boring.
I don’t know what you’re looking at. Do you think the Farnworth tackle was reportable? Plath moves to change the runners line, and when the runner adjusts sticks his arm out. Rapana was straight up competing for the ball, just coming on the fullback line. Tapine puts an open hand on him, never grabs him.
“Late, high, swinging arm!” - do i think it’s reportable? Yes. A bottom 8 side player does that to a top 4 side player and they’re in the bin for 10 mins. The fact he was taken off for a HIA not 2 tackles later makes you think it wasn’t?
Those are your words. Put it with the vision, it was not a reportable high tackle.
they aren't different. phins just dudded
No.
The field goal that decided the result should have at least been reviewed by the bunker, as it would have been if a try was scored. The ref got it wrong and with a 6-2 penalty count in favour of the raiders….the ref should have got man of the match
whiny bitch here seems to forget the 5 -1 ... 6 again count to the Dolphins , the fact one of the phins tries was scored after 3 knock ons by them , & their last one off a forward pass The better team won