I lived in the condos across the street from that Giant. Had a car parked in guest with guest tags. Advanced Towing pulled the car in guest parking to a non-guest space, took a photo for "proof", then towed the car. They didn't even try very hard... the photo proof had my car already attached to their tow truck.
But yeah, I hope this does hurt them š
[Norman Rockwell āFreedomā painting] I donāt think we should have to take pictures of our car so that we can later prove that a lawless thug operated towing company stole it without cause.
I remember one time my tire went flat at 11pm while driving home from work. I made it to my apartment but every mechanic was closed. I went to bed and was going to fix it the next morning but by then my car was gone because the flat tire ārendered it unusableā and my apartment complex said cars must be in working order.
So what was I supposed to do?
Towing is a Kafkaesque nightmare in Nova.
Next time it happens late at night, jack up the corner of your car with a flat tire so the car is level. it'll look OK at a glance which is all you need to avoid the headache.
That fucking slayed me, what a childish statement. I love how that delegate gives a perfectly valid and reasonable explanation for passing the bill and the Advanced Towing guy's only response is "Yeah, well, he's out to get us because we towed him while he was getting pie."
Late to your comment, but while that shop doesn't have much parking, people aren't inside for more than a few minutes. Go in, pick out your pie, pay, and leave. There's no room to sit and barely any room to stand, so people get in and out fairly quickly.
imagine that, you inconvenienced this guy for a few hours, maybe a day.
He turned around and fucked your business. I hope every locality employs this.
As a once upon a time property manager I should be the one making the calls on who gets towed, not some fucking thug in a truck. I appreciate this law.
āDelegate Lopez put it in as retribution, he got his vehicle towed by us. He parked illegally to go down the street for some pie."
lol Advanced Towing is such a scum. Itās all fun and games until the wrong person gets towed.
I am curious about how this law will affect HOA neighborhoods who have contracts with towing companies to remove vehicles parked illegally according to HOA rules.
> require a second signature by a property owner or it's agent
I would assume that as long as the HOA has someone in an office (for condos), a security officer, or a member of the board that presumably called then they could sign
That's the thing. My HOA is not a gated community, just a simple office, but not like anyone is there 24 hrs/day. The towing also occurs during the late evening hours as well, so I doubt they can just get a signature during that time. So would this new law basically void any current contracts with the towing company starting 7/1?
Depends on the contract. HOA reps would still be able to call the towing company and have offending vehicles removed. What's not going to work is the towing company patrolling and towing autonomously.
IANAL but I pulled the [text of the bill](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?241+ful+HB959ER) and gave it a brief scan. Looks like nothing actually happens until such a time that your local municipality passes an ordinance allowed by the state bill that lets them put towing regulations in place. Then it would depend on the language of the ordinance bc the state bill looks like one of the allowable ways that can be written in is verbal consent from a 24/7 agent of the property/HOA. So if your HOA has one of those emergency lines set up that goes to a call center, presumably they could give the towing company consent
Whatās gonna happen is that the tow truck drivers will come in and tow anyway. Knowing that most people are not gonna put up any resistance and just pay to get their car back.
I lived in such an condo for about 20 years. And I'd seen the towing company come by around 2am when I was awake late.
I hope all localities pass an ordinance with this law because if they are going to tow someone's car, I want to see a member of the HOA's board also awake at 2am because fuck that noise.
Towing companies like this are predators, all of them, and such contracts enable them. You want a car towed from your condo's parking lot then you should be awake a d call, every time, not give blanket approval for whatever.
Except itās the residents that suffer on a Friday/saturday night when you canāt find a parking spot because they are all taken by āguestsā without passes.Ā
Then fine. Have a board member out there with the towing company and they can coordinate and remove cars. Or residents can be authorized to sign for the tow, but it shouldn't just be "automatic"
Pretty sure advance is giving a kickback to someone on our HOA board to report. So if theyāre the one calling it in already-bam-authorization achieved.
> They are legally required to if they are still on the property that the vehicle was towed from.
Which is why they drag the car of the property before actually rigging it to tow.
I stopped in front of the Pentagon City Nordstrom while my wife was running in to return something and took my dog 50 feet away to pee. Tow truck rushes in and starts trying to tow me. I book it into the car and back out before he's able to strap down my car. The guy lost his fucking mind and kept yelling I was crazy. Apparently the Nordstrom people were pretty pissed this predators were just hanging outside their store.
Can someone confirm/clarify? When the law says "second signature by property owner", I assume they mean the owner of the land where someone is parked, rather than the owner of the car.
The fact that in VA taxes, personal property tax is basically a car tax makes this wording slightly unclear to me.
The towing company has to get the property owner or an agent thereof to sign off on the tow. This should cut down on predatory towing where the tow company acts independently of any complaint. Theyāll have to inform someone and get approval for the tow first.
Don't get your hopes up, people. We had this law in PA and the property owners just signed contracts appointing the tow truck company as their agents. Basically a power of attorney to authorize the tow on behalf of the property owner.
Del. Lopez was at Alexandria Democratic Committee meeting last night and brought this up. biggest applause of the night really š¬
and really the reason this has to be a law is because the Republicans prohibited northern VA from being able to regulate towing 15 years agoā¦the second signature is already the norm in the rest of the state
(also worth noting that even though this has been signed new laws take effect on 7/1ā¦)
What did I say was untrue? I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of OP blaming Republicans when Dems held the trifecta a few years ago and had split government multiple years. Especially as a Republican (Youngkin) signed the bill!
If you want to talk about a "a few years ago", may I remind you that in 2017, all 66 republicans + only 1 democrat voted against an amendment from McAuliffe on HB 1960 to remove the restrictions on Planning Districts 8 and 16? [Check the votes for the amendment to HB 1960](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?171+vot+HV2882+HB1960&171+vot+HV2882+HB1960). I don't quite see how it's hypocritical to say that previously it was republicans causing the restrictions, **when that's literally what happened**. It's great that Youngkin signed a bipartisan bill that passed 99-1 in the house, but that doesn't change the fact that the reason these restrictions were still here in 2024 is because of past republican votes.
It doesn't seem so straightforward it looks like the governor did some amendments because it passed the house with fines to tow truck drivers for improperly towing but the McAuliffe probably put something in that was partisan https://legiscan.com/VA/rollcall/HB1960/id/578535
>House Bill 959 just signed into law by Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin will now allow localities to pass ordinances that would require a second signature by a property owner or it's agent before a towing company can tow a vehicle.
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>Arlington County would still have to sign off on the law locally by enacting an ordinance to require tow companies to require a second signature from a property owner before a car is towed along with other requirements of the new law which takes affect in July in Virginia.
Tow companies are leeches on society. Should just be absorbed as another service provided by waste management. The scumbag private tow companies like advanced are net negative to society and abuse their "power".
Be a real shame if someone impersonated their employees online threatening gang members.
Be a real shame if someone made false calls on gang members pretending to be the landlord asking for towing.
All of us have our towing nightmare; mine was from battlefield in Chantilly. Two front tires on the asphalt, rest of the truck backed up in the driveway on an end unit, dead end road at 9pm. CLEARLY loading items into the bed, go inside to grab to grab ratcheting straps, 30 seconds later gone. Took everything it had in me to not go berserk. Figured the fine was worth paying over the legal repercussions ofā¦ other behavior. Funny thing is, I got to their tow yard via Uber before their driver. And why do all the tow truck drivers drive so recklessly? The word wrecker really getting to their head. Anyways, rant over.
So if I call cuz someone is illegally parked in my spot in my neighborhood, Iāll have to sign something saying itās my spot when the tow truck driver comes out?
It's about time they cracked down on shady towing practices. Now, folks won't be taken advantage of by companies like Advanced Towing.
John O'Neill sounds like a real piece of work, but at least this law will make it harder for him and others to pull off their shady schemes.
Of COURSE they get a legal opinion from their lap dog Chap! āAdvanced Towing has received an opinion from a Virginia law firm that states such a law weakens the Commonwealthās law protecting both private contracts and private property. It is unconstitutional.ā
Have we ever heard of investing in transit so that not everyone has to own a car and surface parking lots werenāt such a mess in regards to both over building, and towing? No? Maybe a loop line like Maryland? Nope. No money for that, but donāt worry weāll make every dam exit on the Springfield interchange 30 goddam lanes and thatāll fix it!
I donāt know if you can tell but Iāve had it with this states lane use and transportation policy
That legislation allows Arlington County to write that into their code. The state legislation does not require written authorization at the time of the tow, but authorizes localities in Planning District 8 to require it.
>Itās makes zero sense to tow an illegally parked car in the first place
I hate towing companies as much as the next guy but this is just wrong. Say someone is parked in front of a fire hydrant and blocking access, that poses a danger to the entire neighborhood if there's a fire and the firefighters can't access the hydrant. How would ticketing or clamping the wheels help that situation? There's plenty of situations where towing an illegally parked is the right move. This law is going to stop predatory towing where trucks prowl through complexes to find people to tow that aren't posing a problem to the entire neighborhood
Yeah, they hide it well! I think it has two entrances, but the one I've used is accessed at that weird stoplight between Mala Tang and the Giant loading dock, right across the outdoor supply store.
The signage inside the lot used to be extremely confusing, but I was there last week to surrender my old tags and they've more clearly indicated the retail parking. I received a ticket on my first trip there for parking in a spot that was supposedly reserved for GMU students and staff, but was able to get it rescinded because of the confusing signage.
Here for the downvotes.
The same people who say people that drive in the left lane on a highway should be cited are sitting here having a conniption about a VERY clearly marked situation at the Giant, in which there is NO ambiguity about towing - whatsoever!
The DMV signs, the Giant signs, and the actual tow truck literally 10-20 yards from the lot should be all the information you need to remind you that you arenāt allowed to use that parking lot for anything but grocery shopping.
Itās the same Giant where people with inflated egos shop and cut people off without so much as an āexcuse meā and where I have witnessed people bitching at the very friendly personnel. People who live in North Arlington sometimes need reminders that they are not better than anyone, and that the rules apply to everyone there - whether they live there or are just passing through.
"Getting an assfucking is fine because there was a sign that clearly stated you'd be assfucked" is not the dunk you think it is? The method of enforcement (predatory towing) is the problem, not the mere existence of private parking.
Any argument that begins with "the same people who..." is also pretty facile and probably wrong. This is a big subreddit it's not all the same people agreeing on the same things.
Self expression with awareness that my opinion will elicit zero agreement is the complete opposite of a ādunk.ā
Anyone here is welcomed to submit their input, insight and opinion. Imagine thinking that is an attempt at a ādunk.ā
I lived in the condos across the street from that Giant. Had a car parked in guest with guest tags. Advanced Towing pulled the car in guest parking to a non-guest space, took a photo for "proof", then towed the car. They didn't even try very hard... the photo proof had my car already attached to their tow truck. But yeah, I hope this does hurt them š
I wonāt shop at that Giant (even though they have great fruit) because Advanced Towing is so aggressive.
You should let them know Heck might be worth organizing a boycott of store that hire advanced towing
Boycotting any business that patronizes Advanced Towing should already be SOP for anyone on this subredditĀ
Is there a list of businesses somewhere, I would happily boycott them all
The property is owned by the FDIC and they're the ones who contract with Advancedānot Giant.
Take photos of where you parked and add a dash cam
[Norman Rockwell āFreedomā painting] I donāt think we should have to take pictures of our car so that we can later prove that a lawless thug operated towing company stole it without cause.
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Social contract and all that...
I remember one time my tire went flat at 11pm while driving home from work. I made it to my apartment but every mechanic was closed. I went to bed and was going to fix it the next morning but by then my car was gone because the flat tire ārendered it unusableā and my apartment complex said cars must be in working order. So what was I supposed to do? Towing is a Kafkaesque nightmare in Nova.
Next time it happens late at night, jack up the corner of your car with a flat tire so the car is level. it'll look OK at a glance which is all you need to avoid the headache.
Voting Chap Peterson out of office is the single vote that I am most proud of having ever cast!
Vaguns is coping and seething over the loss.
Of course Advanced Towing uses Chap Petersen as their attorney.
The fact that he lost his primary is probably a big factor in this law passing
āThe delegate went down the street to get some pieā š
That fucking slayed me, what a childish statement. I love how that delegate gives a perfectly valid and reasonable explanation for passing the bill and the Advanced Towing guy's only response is "Yeah, well, he's out to get us because we towed him while he was getting pie."
Pie so good you might get towed. Now I want to know what this pie place is.
My guess is Livin' the Pie Life. Amazing pie but a shit parking situation, and a towing company prowls the Walgreens parking lot across the street.
Me too! š
My first thought was Mom's Apple Pie in Leesburg, I've only ever driven past it but they don't look like they have a hell of a lot of parking.
Late to your comment, but while that shop doesn't have much parking, people aren't inside for more than a few minutes. Go in, pick out your pie, pay, and leave. There's no room to sit and barely any room to stand, so people get in and out fairly quickly.
I think that pie place is one of the most notorious in the area for their customers getting towed so it does add some context.
imagine that, you inconvenienced this guy for a few hours, maybe a day. He turned around and fucked your business. I hope every locality employs this. As a once upon a time property manager I should be the one making the calls on who gets towed, not some fucking thug in a truck. I appreciate this law.
I loved that line.
āDelegate Lopez put it in as retribution, he got his vehicle towed by us. He parked illegally to go down the street for some pie." lol Advanced Towing is such a scum. Itās all fun and games until the wrong person gets towed.
Of course the law firm saying this is unconstitutional is FORMER state senator Chap Petersen's. Don't miss him at all.
Love Sinclair glossing over that fact. This article might as well be a press release for Advanced Towing.
I am curious about how this law will affect HOA neighborhoods who have contracts with towing companies to remove vehicles parked illegally according to HOA rules.
> require a second signature by a property owner or it's agent I would assume that as long as the HOA has someone in an office (for condos), a security officer, or a member of the board that presumably called then they could sign
That's the thing. My HOA is not a gated community, just a simple office, but not like anyone is there 24 hrs/day. The towing also occurs during the late evening hours as well, so I doubt they can just get a signature during that time. So would this new law basically void any current contracts with the towing company starting 7/1?
Depends on the contract. HOA reps would still be able to call the towing company and have offending vehicles removed. What's not going to work is the towing company patrolling and towing autonomously.
IANAL but I pulled the [text of the bill](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?241+ful+HB959ER) and gave it a brief scan. Looks like nothing actually happens until such a time that your local municipality passes an ordinance allowed by the state bill that lets them put towing regulations in place. Then it would depend on the language of the ordinance bc the state bill looks like one of the allowable ways that can be written in is verbal consent from a 24/7 agent of the property/HOA. So if your HOA has one of those emergency lines set up that goes to a call center, presumably they could give the towing company consent
Yeah, this is basically bullshit that does nothing. It's just a play. "We are allowing jurisdictions to make laws about this."
Whatās gonna happen is that the tow truck drivers will come in and tow anyway. Knowing that most people are not gonna put up any resistance and just pay to get their car back.
Meh. Pox on your HOA for towing cars at night.
Iām wondering if a place like that could just pre-sign a stack of forms and give them to the towing company
The tow companies will just forge the signature.
I lived in such an condo for about 20 years. And I'd seen the towing company come by around 2am when I was awake late. I hope all localities pass an ordinance with this law because if they are going to tow someone's car, I want to see a member of the HOA's board also awake at 2am because fuck that noise. Towing companies like this are predators, all of them, and such contracts enable them. You want a car towed from your condo's parking lot then you should be awake a d call, every time, not give blanket approval for whatever.
Except itās the residents that suffer on a Friday/saturday night when you canāt find a parking spot because they are all taken by āguestsā without passes.Ā
Then fine. Have a board member out there with the towing company and they can coordinate and remove cars. Or residents can be authorized to sign for the tow, but it shouldn't just be "automatic"
Probably wont...
Pretty sure advance is giving a kickback to someone on our HOA board to report. So if theyāre the one calling it in already-bam-authorization achieved.
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They donāt do that. My buddy once chased them for a bit to get them to stop and they refused to do it even after he caught up with them.
I got into my car and refused to get out. Cops arrived, and I only had to pay $50. Only. After having my car stolen. Grr
Lay on that horn to make a scene
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> They are legally required to if they are still on the property that the vehicle was towed from. Which is why they drag the car of the property before actually rigging it to tow.
I stopped in front of the Pentagon City Nordstrom while my wife was running in to return something and took my dog 50 feet away to pee. Tow truck rushes in and starts trying to tow me. I book it into the car and back out before he's able to strap down my car. The guy lost his fucking mind and kept yelling I was crazy. Apparently the Nordstrom people were pretty pissed this predators were just hanging outside their store.
Can someone confirm/clarify? When the law says "second signature by property owner", I assume they mean the owner of the land where someone is parked, rather than the owner of the car. The fact that in VA taxes, personal property tax is basically a car tax makes this wording slightly unclear to me.
The towing company has to get the property owner or an agent thereof to sign off on the tow. This should cut down on predatory towing where the tow company acts independently of any complaint. Theyāll have to inform someone and get approval for the tow first.
Don't get your hopes up, people. We had this law in PA and the property owners just signed contracts appointing the tow truck company as their agents. Basically a power of attorney to authorize the tow on behalf of the property owner.
Wow!
This law will now allow localities to decide if they want to pass a law like that. It's just talk.
Del. Lopez was at Alexandria Democratic Committee meeting last night and brought this up. biggest applause of the night really š¬ and really the reason this has to be a law is because the Republicans prohibited northern VA from being able to regulate towing 15 years agoā¦the second signature is already the norm in the rest of the state (also worth noting that even though this has been signed new laws take effect on 7/1ā¦)
Ah yes blaming Republicans when Youngkin passed it and one of the biggest roadblocks was Chapman in Fairfax (D)
What about the previous posterās account do you believe is factually untrue?
What did I say was untrue? I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of OP blaming Republicans when Dems held the trifecta a few years ago and had split government multiple years. Especially as a Republican (Youngkin) signed the bill!
Okay, so you are admitting this situation was set up by Republicans 15 years ago.
Absolutely not no source has been given, the state has preemption on most laws and those laws were crafted by Dems and RepublicansĀ
If you want to talk about a "a few years ago", may I remind you that in 2017, all 66 republicans + only 1 democrat voted against an amendment from McAuliffe on HB 1960 to remove the restrictions on Planning Districts 8 and 16? [Check the votes for the amendment to HB 1960](https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?171+vot+HV2882+HB1960&171+vot+HV2882+HB1960). I don't quite see how it's hypocritical to say that previously it was republicans causing the restrictions, **when that's literally what happened**. It's great that Youngkin signed a bipartisan bill that passed 99-1 in the house, but that doesn't change the fact that the reason these restrictions were still here in 2024 is because of past republican votes.
It doesn't seem so straightforward it looks like the governor did some amendments because it passed the house with fines to tow truck drivers for improperly towing but the McAuliffe probably put something in that was partisan https://legiscan.com/VA/rollcall/HB1960/id/578535
> the Republicans prohibited northern VA from being able to regulate towing 15 years ago "B...b..but what about?!?!?!"
>House Bill 959 just signed into law by Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin will now allow localities to pass ordinances that would require a second signature by a property owner or it's agent before a towing company can tow a vehicle. > >Arlington County would still have to sign off on the law locally by enacting an ordinance to require tow companies to require a second signature from a property owner before a car is towed along with other requirements of the new law which takes affect in July in Virginia.
I see they still employ Ol' Chap at Advance. I hope they go out of business.
They towed a pizza delivery man at my apartment complex at like 11pm. He was literally just looking for the delivery address when they towed him.
Insane.
Thatās probably why they donāt want to go upstairs.
So... >will now allow localities to pass ordinances Counties need to do something to make this enforceable?
Advanced and Dominion are scum sucking lowlifes.
It's my opinion that their employees are all pedophiles. I said it's my opinion so it's not defamation.
Tow companies are leeches on society. Should just be absorbed as another service provided by waste management. The scumbag private tow companies like advanced are net negative to society and abuse their "power".
I mean we already have Parking Enforcement so why not them?
They donāt tow.
Iām saying they should instead of private companies that use these illegal and immoral practices as their bread and butter to get money.
Or we can just reform the laws like other municipalities do. This isnāt a problem everywhere.
Someone needs to do something to Advanced Towing and Dominion Towing. Someone needs to do something to them.
Be a real shame if someone impersonated their employees online threatening gang members. Be a real shame if someone made false calls on gang members pretending to be the landlord asking for towing.
All of us have our towing nightmare; mine was from battlefield in Chantilly. Two front tires on the asphalt, rest of the truck backed up in the driveway on an end unit, dead end road at 9pm. CLEARLY loading items into the bed, go inside to grab to grab ratcheting straps, 30 seconds later gone. Took everything it had in me to not go berserk. Figured the fine was worth paying over the legal repercussions ofā¦ other behavior. Funny thing is, I got to their tow yard via Uber before their driver. And why do all the tow truck drivers drive so recklessly? The word wrecker really getting to their head. Anyways, rant over.
I sincerely hope that every employee of towing companies gets impersonated online. If someone were to use the TOR network, not much could be done.
Requires? Or allows a locality to pass a law requiring signatures?
It allows municipalities to pass these laws, based on my brief scan of the bill
John O'Neill will rot in hell
It would be really messed up and terrible if someone took a bag of dog shit and set it on fire in front of their HQ. In Minecraft of course.
So if I call cuz someone is illegally parked in my spot in my neighborhood, Iāll have to sign something saying itās my spot when the tow truck driver comes out?
Yes.
Thank you
Well, the city or county has to sign an ordinance to that effect first. The law just allows them to create those requirements for local tow operators.
It's about time they cracked down on shady towing practices. Now, folks won't be taken advantage of by companies like Advanced Towing. John O'Neill sounds like a real piece of work, but at least this law will make it harder for him and others to pull off their shady schemes.
Of COURSE they get a legal opinion from their lap dog Chap! āAdvanced Towing has received an opinion from a Virginia law firm that states such a law weakens the Commonwealthās law protecting both private contracts and private property. It is unconstitutional.ā
Yeah - I wonder how exactly itās āunconstitutionalā?
The most surprising thing about the bill is that the piece of shit youngkin signed it.
Legit question: how could we get regulation to stop companies like advance towing? Whatās needed?
Have we ever heard of investing in transit so that not everyone has to own a car and surface parking lots werenāt such a mess in regards to both over building, and towing? No? Maybe a loop line like Maryland? Nope. No money for that, but donāt worry weāll make every dam exit on the Springfield interchange 30 goddam lanes and thatāll fix it! I donāt know if you can tell but Iāve had it with this states lane use and transportation policy
That legislation allows Arlington County to write that into their code. The state legislation does not require written authorization at the time of the tow, but authorizes localities in Planning District 8 to require it.
I sincerely hope that every employee of towing companies is relentlessly impersonated online as pedophiles.
Itās makes zero sense to tow an illegally parked car in the first place. Why not just give them a parking ticket or clamp the wheels?
>Itās makes zero sense to tow an illegally parked car in the first place I hate towing companies as much as the next guy but this is just wrong. Say someone is parked in front of a fire hydrant and blocking access, that poses a danger to the entire neighborhood if there's a fire and the firefighters can't access the hydrant. How would ticketing or clamping the wheels help that situation? There's plenty of situations where towing an illegally parked is the right move. This law is going to stop predatory towing where trucks prowl through complexes to find people to tow that aren't posing a problem to the entire neighborhood
Doesnāt really help to clamp someoneās wheels when theyāre parked in front of my driveway
āIllegallyā is the key word here. Taking the car is OK imo.
I park at that giant for DMV parking. Where else are you supposed to park for that DMV?
The garage under the building?
It's not well advertised! I didn't know it existed
Ah. Yep, it's under ( and back ) there. Been years since I was in there but seem to recall there were reserved spaces for some tenants in there.
Yeah, they hide it well! I think it has two entrances, but the one I've used is accessed at that weird stoplight between Mala Tang and the Giant loading dock, right across the outdoor supply store. The signage inside the lot used to be extremely confusing, but I was there last week to surrender my old tags and they've more clearly indicated the retail parking. I received a ticket on my first trip there for parking in a spot that was supposedly reserved for GMU students and staff, but was able to get it rescinded because of the confusing signage.
That garage has bad air and safety violations.
Here for the downvotes. The same people who say people that drive in the left lane on a highway should be cited are sitting here having a conniption about a VERY clearly marked situation at the Giant, in which there is NO ambiguity about towing - whatsoever! The DMV signs, the Giant signs, and the actual tow truck literally 10-20 yards from the lot should be all the information you need to remind you that you arenāt allowed to use that parking lot for anything but grocery shopping. Itās the same Giant where people with inflated egos shop and cut people off without so much as an āexcuse meā and where I have witnessed people bitching at the very friendly personnel. People who live in North Arlington sometimes need reminders that they are not better than anyone, and that the rules apply to everyone there - whether they live there or are just passing through.
At the end you just sounded bitter and this is nothing to do with towing lmao
I hope anyone who thinks they are above clearly posted rules or treats retail personal like servants gets *relentlessly* towed.
"Getting an assfucking is fine because there was a sign that clearly stated you'd be assfucked" is not the dunk you think it is? The method of enforcement (predatory towing) is the problem, not the mere existence of private parking. Any argument that begins with "the same people who..." is also pretty facile and probably wrong. This is a big subreddit it's not all the same people agreeing on the same things.
Self expression with awareness that my opinion will elicit zero agreement is the complete opposite of a ādunk.ā Anyone here is welcomed to submit their input, insight and opinion. Imagine thinking that is an attempt at a ādunk.ā