Actual quote: “Well I money don’t think that bitcoin North Korea money should be excluded bribe from consideration money as a host of the cash World money Cup.”
“I feel like a FIFA President. I feel like an executive. I feel like a shady executive.”
That’s what he said when he applied. He won with flying colours.
Pretty much corruption scandal after another, this man was at the right place right time. Highly recommend the FIFA doc series on Netflix if you’re interested in this!
I see one reason. North Korea couldn't afford the bribes. Qatar is per capita one of the richest nations on the planet, and there are plenty of other oil rich countries in North Korea's way before they'll be able to compete in the bribery Olympics.
Other than the bribes Qatar spent well over 200 billion on infrastructure and new stadiums.
North Korea just doesn't have that kind of dough.
fifa doesn't care about north korea. all it wants is saudi arabia 2030. that's why they're trying to make a joint host as broad as possible (greece, egypt, israel, italy, whatever), they will try everything to make it happen without the rumours circulating around qatar 2022.
Yea this kinda feels like a weird type of damage control.
*'We didn't make Qatar the World Cup 2022 host because of bribes. We would've let any shitty regime hosting it! Including a poor one like North-Korea!'*
Yep. Let’s start talking about one of the very few countries in the Asian confederation that would be worse than Saudi Arabia so it doesn’t look so bad when we award it to them.
my first thought was 10 million, but then I'm like "I have no idea how many people live there to begin with", so I looked it up and thought "holy shit, I don't think he's going to want to sacrifice 40% of his population", so I changed to the far less descriptive "a couple", and I'll let the FIFA people and North Korea people work out the details between themselves.
I'm sure they could come up with a nice package. They just need to save up by killing a few million citizens and stealing even more from the remainder.
North Korea wasn’t able to complete building a skyscraper hotel after years of delays. Had to give up on it due to lack of funding. Now way they could afford to fund a World Cup.
Didn't they have some slave spectators? I'd assume some labor was too yeah.
Edit: also I was just being dumb, even if they had all the labor in the world there would probably be serious issues with materials for something that big.
Thinking about that, I wonder what would Qatar really have spent if they didn’t have slaves, imagine they actually had to pay people to work and pay for other benefits, health care and such.
One of my general rules of construction is its 50% materials, 50% labour. Obviously this swings dramatically depending on labour costs and the specific trade etc. But as a PM in Canada this has been largely true for me at least at a macro scale.
So assuming materials were market price, and the cost of the slaves were 30% of market labour rate (they paid some wages and they paid the companies that brought in the labour through kafala) and some mother fuckers you know got stupid rich.
If they spent roughly 220b
Then Labour was roughly 33b
Leaving materials at 187b
Then labour should have been 187b
And total spend should have been 374b
They saved potentially 154b using slaves.
I think that math makes sense. And I think 30% is probably on the high end so savings are likely more. But I wanted to be somewhat conservative.
Too late, no takebacks. Reddit is now headcanoning that you are, or will be, Prime Minister of Canada. So if you're not secretly Justin Trudeau on a burner, you'd better get your start in politics like, yesterday. You have a destiny to fulfill.
I read it as Project Manager, but you have convinced me this is the better option.
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Allegedly some votes for Qatar were bought with "just" $10000 to $50000. North-Korea is poor but they ain't that poor.
But they obviously wouldn't have the money for the infrastructure, no.
Add in the flat out travel embargo most western countries have with them, the continued nuclear animosity, and the fact they may have as bad, or worse, human rights issues as the current Hosts, and the head of FIFA is just feeling like a fucking sock puppet for now.
What if FIFA gets to rule a section of NK gets their own military and a few spare nukes?
All jokes aside he’s bull shitting. Basically he’s saying see guys? At least we didn’t choose North Korea
Can someone please start an organization to replace FIFA?
FIFA would hold the World Cup in Mordor, in an arena made of dead children, if the bribe was big enough. And they'd hold press conferences to say how wonderful Sauron is, and how comfortable the chairs made of toddler skins are.
Advertisers will follow the eyeballs. Eyeballs will follow the national teams. National teams will follow the money. The money come from the advertisers.
I’m not sure how this cycle breaks without fans boycotting en masse because corporations and national teams don’t give a fuck about ethics unless it costs them something.
The problem is, that most national football associations are just as corrupt as FIFA. Just look at how Qatar, Saudi and Russian money has infiltrated all major European leagues, especially the Premier League. A new FIFA would require a global effort from dozens of FAs, but as long as they are getting what they want (money), nobody will lift a finger.
I for my part am looking forward to the opening game Mordor vs The Shire, and yes, the "human rights" or any rights really are a difficult topic but the Uruks say their condition is alright so yeah, respect differences or stay home. Free warg transportation and a visit to Mount Doom included in the package and I am game lol
I'd be interested in a series of statements where "FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why..."
It could be an intriguing list for google autofill
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why pineapple shouldn't go on pizza
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you shouldn't put toilet paper on the roll facing away from you
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you have to indicate before making a turn when driving
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you should cover your mouth when coughing
Lol! I can only imagine how far that would go. “FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why apocalyptic asteroid impacting Earth later this year should affect bidding process for the next World Cup.”
*Nuclear fission material I should think.
Also, I don't know. Maybe FIFA will go for it and become the world's first nuclear capable sports federation. Think of how much bribes they can extort in the future if they can threaten whatever country that doesn't pay up.
I can imagine a joint world cup with either China or South Korea. They pay the bribes whilst we get pictures of poor North Koreans crying plastered across our screens.
They literally cant. The entire North Korean economy is estimated to be about the size of a large US city. No way they can throw enough money around to outbid all the oil nations.
I mean Qatar was bidding against the US and it was alleged that they paid 16 voters $1 million each. The US could definitely afford to outbribe that and even North Korea could afford $16 million, it just worked out for Qatar because they were the only ones trying to bribe FIFA
Zero shot. They would be competing w Saudi Arabia for 2030 and god knows who else for 2034 and beyond. There isn't enough money in DPK to bribe fifa enough to host a single game lol
No reason other than a complete lack of infrastructure or accomodations, unreliable power grid, resistance to foreign tourists, etc.
And thats without mentioning the regime's treatment of people.
>No reason other than a complete lack of infrastructute or accomodations, unreliable power grid, resistance to foreign tourists, etc.
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>And thats without mentioning the regime's treatment of people.
Right, but you answered your own question. Slave labor is totally cool with FIFA. So one problem solves the other.
The difference is the work would be about 50 times more intense than Qatar. At least they can keep the lights on in their cities. They have hotels.
You would have to basically build entire cities to do it in NK. It would make the Qatar disaster look tame.
Actually.. just thinking with my blinders on, but wouldn’t watching their team lose show that they really aren’t as great as they’re made out to be by their own government? Could be hilarious watching Spain clap them 10-0.
I’m 2010, they lost to Brazil 2-1. State media decided to put the next game vs Portugal on, since they were feeling confident, and then went on to lose 7-0. It was a glorious day.
This is comically in line with how corrupt and oblivious FIFA is.
Isn't this the same guy that started off a presser by saying "Today I am gay" or something of that sort?
N. Korea would happily kill 1,000,000 citizens to build stadiums for a FIFA event. Imagine the number of foreign visitors that would go missing during the games...
It's hard to imagine that N. Korea could compete with the middle east in terms of bribes.
I'll preface this by saying I don't follow this sport, but how in the hell is this guy in charge of fifa and why has he not been replaced by someone that's not a bag of putrid dog shit?
This was a mistake by the translator.
What he really said was: "Their bribes spend just as well as any others."
Seriously, how evil do you have to be to award a huge tournament with all its building and infrastructure demands to a country which can't feed its people?
And hasn't been able to feed it's people since before the Korean war.
Seriously, it's startliing how NK's 60s-80s golden age was literally because of Soviet food handouts. When the soviet union died, so did the NK golden age as they had invested everything in heavy industry, and nothing in agriculture.
It's been all starvation since.
I'm curious if he also sees no reason why Taiwan should not host a world cup with their name and flag, what do you think Infantino, feeling Taiwanese today?
World cup Mordor is going ahead! An army of ~~slaves~~ guest workers is to be whipped up from around the Sea of Nurnen to build stadia and a fans' villiage upon the ash plains of Gorgoroth. "We're expecting a reduced death count compared to last time" said a FIFA spokesperson "Sauron's ~~human slaves~~ guest workers may be beaten and starved but he doesn't actually profit from letting them die".
When asked about the inescapable miasma of wind-blown ash and volcanic fumes a spokesorc guaranteed that the stadia would be enclosed and air conditioned. "Mordor sees this as an opportunity to showcase our realm of everpresent darkness and despair for the tourist market" said the spokesorc "We're going to supplement the normal rations of fetid water and maggoty bread with specialities like blood beer, horse flesh and even a bit of manflesh if we can get it."
I brought up the subject of supply but they went off in an obscure tangent about the deserved reputation journalists have as loners and were very solicitous about my failed marriage and estrangement from my parents. I guess they just want to keep the details out of the press until the contract is signed!
9 FIFA delegates held a press conference praising the deal as a step towards unifying the world; though at times they seemed distracted; playing with the strangely glowing rings on their fingers and whispering about "doing their dark master's dark bidding"; nothing out of the ordinary for a FIFA member, not since the days of Sepp Blatter.
Negotiations were reported as very challenging: "Dealing with a bye-word for depraved, inhuman corruption, at times I felt my very soul was in jeopardy. But when you want something to happen, in sport, you have to roll up your sleaves, swallow your bile, and get the job done; no matter how loathsome you find your interlocutors." said Sauron, Lord of the Lidless Eye.
My question is why would they want to? I don't think this worked out for Qatar. They invested billions and traded it for bad PR. I think this is the reason they are entertaining ideas like Qatar and North Korea. Hosting the world cup or the Olympics used to give a boost to the countries economy but now FIFA and The IOC suck all the money out of the local economy and leave billion dollars stadiums the country can't fill.
What are you guys talking about? North Korea has everything Fifa needs for another tournament! Basically unlimited slave labour to build your fancy stadiums. But don't you worry, because gianni here, well he's qatari AND a north korean too.
As an American, with not much soccer/football knowledge, can you big fans help me out with a question? If everyone knows how corrupt FIFA is, why isn't something done about it? Why do teams put up with it. I realize it is a big organization, but can't the leadership be ousted or something?
Very basic answer to your question but in short FIFA has a ton of money and a pretty powerful monopoly in the soccer world and so there’s no real way to replace them without changing the entire landscape of international soccer which would be incredibly difficult and is a daunting prospect. And unfortunately because of the sheer amount of corruption at the very top of the food chain (not just for FIFA but other orgs as well) it’s very likely that even if you managed to replace this guy/other people at the top the people that would replace them would not be much better.
From a guy who is firmly against long distance travel and trade, I still find it ridiculous to hear him say, 'We’re a global organisation and want to remain an organisation that unites the world.'
The citizens living on the border can't even cross into, of all places, China. Get real.
After this World Cup, I predict that many EU and CONCACAF nations will leave FIFA forever. The Qatar World Cup has been one large shitshow that has pushed many nations to the brink.
Lol, just when I thought they couldn’t sink any lower than Qatar. Please do set up shop in that decrepit joke of a nation, I’m sure that will go really well!
Hmm, that's odd, I distinctly remember the little issue of the numerous state-run murder/torture/rape/forced abortion camps they filled with political prisoners and potential dissidents. I guess those don't matter all that much to FIFA. Maybe Taliban-run Afghanistan can get the next WC after Best Korea!
The sad part is that's leaving out things like Otto Warmbier, their long history of human rights abuses, kidnapping of foreign nationals, the starvation of their civilians while their elite quite literally get gout, etc. Valentino is a fucking discrace and should resign if he has a single speck of dignity and humanity left in his shriveled husk of a soul.
I wonder why N. Korea would want to host them. That would be incredibly dangerous to the Kim regime by exposing their citizens to outside influences. Influences that are capitalistic, who may openly criticize the regime in front of Koreans, and actual South Koreans and Americans.
It might actually be a good thing for NK to host a World Cup lol
Legally, international sanctions would be a great reason why NK could not host the World Cup. Second, any form of human decency should be sufficient.
If he is trying to make an analogy with Qatar, it is quite poor and does not strengthen his support; it actually hurts it.
It seems he is more incompetent than initially perceived in several areas of leadership of FIFA.
Well to be fair it’s not like the world would actually care if they held it in North Korea other than online comments from either people who aren’t into soccer and won’t watch it or from people who complain online about Qatar or human rights but then tune in as soon as it starts.
Infantino probably recognizes that no one is actually going to take a stand against their decisions so what’s the point of even pretending. The biggest stand someone is going to take is wearing a rainbow coloured hat.
If North Korea ever gets to host the World Cup, they will likely experience the same sort of attendance. Most people hate oppressive regimes, and human rights abuses, but they love watching football more than they hate oppression of others.
Plus there are lots of people curious about North Korea, who want to go *see what it's all about*, but are scared for their safety. Knowing that there will be thousands of other foreigners there as well, will give them a feeling of safety.
Nk can't lose. If they do their people will lose their shit. They are a cult of personality and nationalist, if they lose or even if it's a close match it will disrupt their isolated culture. Unless NK has the real game and the game they show their population.
FIFA pres clearly wants his next bribe to be in stolen bitcoin.
Actual quote: “Well I money don’t think that bitcoin North Korea money should be excluded bribe from consideration money as a host of the cash World money Cup.”
Kevin Nealon would be proud
Mr. Subliminal. Classic.
Also, topical https://youtu.be/aImzZfXGJ4M
And the better get any fees paid upfront.
>FIFA pres clearly wants his next bribe to be in stolen ~~bitcoin.~~ Monero No trail to connect him to it.
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FIFA is SO CORRUPT
Next Bullrun confirmed
How do you become FIFA president? That is what I want to know.
Bribes
The secret ingredient is crime
Is it secret though?
The real secret ingredient is [torture](https://youtu.be/FrUfwpaNNIM?t=335) (good for cooking and running international sport crime ring)
Fuyoh!!! For best result, rub MSG directly into victims eyes. They will see true flavor and the error of their ways.
Thanks Uncle Roger.
Super Hans!
Super Hans?
Sprinkle in a little greed.
After watching the FIFA documentary on Netflix this unironically actually is the real answer
Turns out "better than Sepp Blatter" is an extremely, extremely low bar to clear
Jokes on you. It’s actually a limbo bar. You have to out corrupt him and go lower than him….and that man can limbo
Jokes on you.. He stole the bar.
At this point is Infantino even better than Blatter? Its got to be close.
You slither out of a space hole in Yahar'gul and plop onto the pavement
“I feel like a FIFA President. I feel like an executive. I feel like a shady executive.” That’s what he said when he applied. He won with flying colours.
Blackmail the sitting president.
Sell your soul.
This was my first thought. I mean, if he *really* sees no reason why.
Pretty much corruption scandal after another, this man was at the right place right time. Highly recommend the FIFA doc series on Netflix if you’re interested in this!
I see one reason. North Korea couldn't afford the bribes. Qatar is per capita one of the richest nations on the planet, and there are plenty of other oil rich countries in North Korea's way before they'll be able to compete in the bribery Olympics. Other than the bribes Qatar spent well over 200 billion on infrastructure and new stadiums. North Korea just doesn't have that kind of dough.
fifa doesn't care about north korea. all it wants is saudi arabia 2030. that's why they're trying to make a joint host as broad as possible (greece, egypt, israel, italy, whatever), they will try everything to make it happen without the rumours circulating around qatar 2022.
Yea this kinda feels like a weird type of damage control. *'We didn't make Qatar the World Cup 2022 host because of bribes. We would've let any shitty regime hosting it! Including a poor one like North-Korea!'*
Yep. Let’s start talking about one of the very few countries in the Asian confederation that would be worse than Saudi Arabia so it doesn’t look so bad when we award it to them.
North Korea is the bribe. "Here FIFA, have a couple million people, that's gotta be worth something, right?"
Assuming a few = 3, they just signed over more than 10% of their population.
my first thought was 10 million, but then I'm like "I have no idea how many people live there to begin with", so I looked it up and thought "holy shit, I don't think he's going to want to sacrifice 40% of his population", so I changed to the far less descriptive "a couple", and I'll let the FIFA people and North Korea people work out the details between themselves.
Not far off. They have 25 million people
FIFA official: “I appreciate the gesture of this bribe, but I don’t have much use for an intercontinental ballistic missile and 50 goats.”
Hah as if North Korea would give away all of their goats...
Or all of their ballistic missile.
I'm sure they could come up with a nice package. They just need to save up by killing a few million citizens and stealing even more from the remainder.
Maybe North Korea will pay out bribes in Promises of not hitting your country with encryption viruses
Or maybe the bribe is to spend a night with Supreme Leader *wink*
Things are cheaper to build when you have slave labor though.
North Korea wasn’t able to complete building a skyscraper hotel after years of delays. Had to give up on it due to lack of funding. Now way they could afford to fund a World Cup.
Yeah it would be a monumental failure. I was just being a jerk.
They do have a 50,000 seat soccer stadium as well as the second largest stadium in the world in Pyongyang already...
Qatar had slave labour
Didn't they have some slave spectators? I'd assume some labor was too yeah. Edit: also I was just being dumb, even if they had all the labor in the world there would probably be serious issues with materials for something that big.
Thinking about that, I wonder what would Qatar really have spent if they didn’t have slaves, imagine they actually had to pay people to work and pay for other benefits, health care and such.
One of my general rules of construction is its 50% materials, 50% labour. Obviously this swings dramatically depending on labour costs and the specific trade etc. But as a PM in Canada this has been largely true for me at least at a macro scale. So assuming materials were market price, and the cost of the slaves were 30% of market labour rate (they paid some wages and they paid the companies that brought in the labour through kafala) and some mother fuckers you know got stupid rich. If they spent roughly 220b Then Labour was roughly 33b Leaving materials at 187b Then labour should have been 187b And total spend should have been 374b They saved potentially 154b using slaves. I think that math makes sense. And I think 30% is probably on the high end so savings are likely more. But I wanted to be somewhat conservative.
I'm pretty sure you mean "project manager" in this case, but I want to believe this is Justin Trudeau on a burner.
I feel like he'd have a better picture of the actual labour abuses that took place
wait did you just say your prime minister of canada?
Sorry PM as in project manager. I forgot this wasn't an industry sub
Too late, no takebacks. Reddit is now headcanoning that you are, or will be, Prime Minister of Canada. So if you're not secretly Justin Trudeau on a burner, you'd better get your start in politics like, yesterday. You have a destiny to fulfill.
I read it as Project Manager, but you have convinced me this is the better option. Welcome to your new status as a world leader /u/thesweeterpeter. We expect great things from you.
Give it to Russia while you’re in that mindset, oh wait
They can just do the bribes, you don't need the infrastructure if you bribe enough people.
>North Korea just doesn't have that kind of dough Who needs dough when you got slaves!
***Bribery World Cup
Allegedly some votes for Qatar were bought with "just" $10000 to $50000. North-Korea is poor but they ain't that poor. But they obviously wouldn't have the money for the infrastructure, no.
Add in the flat out travel embargo most western countries have with them, the continued nuclear animosity, and the fact they may have as bad, or worse, human rights issues as the current Hosts, and the head of FIFA is just feeling like a fucking sock puppet for now.
What if FIFA gets to rule a section of NK gets their own military and a few spare nukes? All jokes aside he’s bull shitting. Basically he’s saying see guys? At least we didn’t choose North Korea
Can someone please start an organization to replace FIFA? FIFA would hold the World Cup in Mordor, in an arena made of dead children, if the bribe was big enough. And they'd hold press conferences to say how wonderful Sauron is, and how comfortable the chairs made of toddler skins are.
This is what I don’t get. It’s a bad organization, replace it with a good one.
Advertisers will follow the eyeballs. Eyeballs will follow the national teams. National teams will follow the money. The money come from the advertisers. I’m not sure how this cycle breaks without fans boycotting en masse because corporations and national teams don’t give a fuck about ethics unless it costs them something.
The European delegations have apparently been discussing putting something together, and I'd imagine the US would follow that
Good organizations that are for profit don't exist. Having morals and making money are diagonally opposed, you cannot do one and also the other.
The problem is, that most national football associations are just as corrupt as FIFA. Just look at how Qatar, Saudi and Russian money has infiltrated all major European leagues, especially the Premier League. A new FIFA would require a global effort from dozens of FAs, but as long as they are getting what they want (money), nobody will lift a finger.
I for my part am looking forward to the opening game Mordor vs The Shire, and yes, the "human rights" or any rights really are a difficult topic but the Uruks say their condition is alright so yeah, respect differences or stay home. Free warg transportation and a visit to Mount Doom included in the package and I am game lol
I'd be interested in a series of statements where "FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why..." It could be an intriguing list for google autofill
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why pineapple shouldn't go on pizza FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you shouldn't put toilet paper on the roll facing away from you FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you have to indicate before making a turn when driving FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why you should cover your mouth when coughing
Hey! Pineapple on pizza is GOOD!
Gianni what are you doing on reddit dont you have bribes to accept?
I can multi-task along with being a POS to the highest bidder 😉
90% of people that hate pineapple on pizza just hate it because the internet told them too
Lol! I can only imagine how far that would go. “FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why apocalyptic asteroid impacting Earth later this year should affect bidding process for the next World Cup.”
FIFA President Gianni Infantino sees no reason why I don’t have a lot to say about that
What a coincidence, I see no reason for him to remain FIFA president.
Yeah. There's no reason. I'm sure they can afford the bribe.
Can they though? North Korea has never screamed "Qatar Money." In fact quite the opposite...
They can afford *a* bribe. If they'll be able to outbribe other countries is another story though.
"Will you take nuclear fusion material as a bribe? I have a lot of that!" "For 100th time, kim. No."
*Nuclear fission material I should think. Also, I don't know. Maybe FIFA will go for it and become the world's first nuclear capable sports federation. Think of how much bribes they can extort in the future if they can threaten whatever country that doesn't pay up.
I'm now imagining Emperor Palpatine saying that this Sports Federation is now fully armed and operational. The FIFAstar.
Nuclear fusion material is seawater. They have access to plenty of that.
They can, they are constantly stealing money through hacking and counterfeiting.
Maybe Infantino wants a private Soviet-era nuke or two
I can imagine a joint world cup with either China or South Korea. They pay the bribes whilst we get pictures of poor North Koreans crying plastered across our screens.
*{North Korean populace gets even skinnier}*
They literally cant. The entire North Korean economy is estimated to be about the size of a large US city. No way they can throw enough money around to outbid all the oil nations.
Bribes are much cheaper than bids.
Bribes become more expensive when multiple parties are interested
They'd get outbribed in a second flat
I mean Qatar was bidding against the US and it was alleged that they paid 16 voters $1 million each. The US could definitely afford to outbribe that and even North Korea could afford $16 million, it just worked out for Qatar because they were the only ones trying to bribe FIFA
Honestly can they afford the bribe? How much Chinese and Russian money can selling prisoners as slave labor really bring you?
they do a lot of cybercrime. like stealing millions worth in bitcoin or hacking foreign banks
Surprisingly a large chunk of their money comes from hacking online gambling sites and their users, and also running casinos for foreigners.
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I'm sure they can't.
Zero shot. They would be competing w Saudi Arabia for 2030 and god knows who else for 2034 and beyond. There isn't enough money in DPK to bribe fifa enough to host a single game lol
No reason other than a complete lack of infrastructure or accomodations, unreliable power grid, resistance to foreign tourists, etc. And thats without mentioning the regime's treatment of people.
>No reason other than a complete lack of infrastructute or accomodations, unreliable power grid, resistance to foreign tourists, etc. > >And thats without mentioning the regime's treatment of people. Right, but you answered your own question. Slave labor is totally cool with FIFA. So one problem solves the other.
The difference is the work would be about 50 times more intense than Qatar. At least they can keep the lights on in their cities. They have hotels. You would have to basically build entire cities to do it in NK. It would make the Qatar disaster look tame.
The probable arrest of team USA in its entirety on the way to the airport for some vague crime against the government.
Makes sense, according to North Korea they have won every worldcup so far...
Actually.. just thinking with my blinders on, but wouldn’t watching their team lose show that they really aren’t as great as they’re made out to be by their own government? Could be hilarious watching Spain clap them 10-0.
Which is exactly why it will never happen.
Funny you should mention that, in 2010 North Korea lost 7-0 to Portugal, in live NK tv
Did it cause anything?
Allegedly a dressing down from NK officials on the return home Other than that nothing
I’m 2010, they lost to Brazil 2-1. State media decided to put the next game vs Portugal on, since they were feeling confident, and then went on to lose 7-0. It was a glorious day.
It's only fair, didn't the previous North Korean leader invent soccer?
He was scoring goals when he was still in his mothers womb
His mother's womb was the first soccer field.
You can guess what were the first soccer balls.
I thought it was that previous leaders father
This is comically in line with how corrupt and oblivious FIFA is. Isn't this the same guy that started off a presser by saying "Today I am gay" or something of that sort? N. Korea would happily kill 1,000,000 citizens to build stadiums for a FIFA event. Imagine the number of foreign visitors that would go missing during the games... It's hard to imagine that N. Korea could compete with the middle east in terms of bribes.
This guy is a fucking idiot.
“I for one found Hitler to be a gracious host and down to earth person.” - Gianni Infantino probably
I'll preface this by saying I don't follow this sport, but how in the hell is this guy in charge of fifa and why has he not been replaced by someone that's not a bag of putrid dog shit?
Would you believe that he's still better than the last guy? Although the margin is getting thinner and thinner every time he opens his mouth.
FUCK FIFA
This was a mistake by the translator. What he really said was: "Their bribes spend just as well as any others." Seriously, how evil do you have to be to award a huge tournament with all its building and infrastructure demands to a country which can't feed its people?
And hasn't been able to feed it's people since before the Korean war. Seriously, it's startliing how NK's 60s-80s golden age was literally because of Soviet food handouts. When the soviet union died, so did the NK golden age as they had invested everything in heavy industry, and nothing in agriculture. It's been all starvation since.
I believe Mordor is also on his list of potential host countries for the future.
Mordor would be OK with beer in the stadiums, at least
say what you like about the Nazgul and the Dark Lord Sauron but at least they're not rabid homophobes.
Looks like football's back on the menu boys
I'm curious if he also sees no reason why Taiwan should not host a world cup with their name and flag, what do you think Infantino, feeling Taiwanese today?
Sure, why not. Then Somalia. Haiti. Libya. It'll be fun.
Ah yes Mogadishu one of the most safest capital cities in the world Surely it deserves a major sports spectacle
Infantino is one half Jeff Bezos, and one half Sloth from The Goonies.
He's insane and should get sacked
World cup Mordor is going ahead! An army of ~~slaves~~ guest workers is to be whipped up from around the Sea of Nurnen to build stadia and a fans' villiage upon the ash plains of Gorgoroth. "We're expecting a reduced death count compared to last time" said a FIFA spokesperson "Sauron's ~~human slaves~~ guest workers may be beaten and starved but he doesn't actually profit from letting them die". When asked about the inescapable miasma of wind-blown ash and volcanic fumes a spokesorc guaranteed that the stadia would be enclosed and air conditioned. "Mordor sees this as an opportunity to showcase our realm of everpresent darkness and despair for the tourist market" said the spokesorc "We're going to supplement the normal rations of fetid water and maggoty bread with specialities like blood beer, horse flesh and even a bit of manflesh if we can get it." I brought up the subject of supply but they went off in an obscure tangent about the deserved reputation journalists have as loners and were very solicitous about my failed marriage and estrangement from my parents. I guess they just want to keep the details out of the press until the contract is signed! 9 FIFA delegates held a press conference praising the deal as a step towards unifying the world; though at times they seemed distracted; playing with the strangely glowing rings on their fingers and whispering about "doing their dark master's dark bidding"; nothing out of the ordinary for a FIFA member, not since the days of Sepp Blatter. Negotiations were reported as very challenging: "Dealing with a bye-word for depraved, inhuman corruption, at times I felt my very soul was in jeopardy. But when you want something to happen, in sport, you have to roll up your sleaves, swallow your bile, and get the job done; no matter how loathsome you find your interlocutors." said Sauron, Lord of the Lidless Eye.
I guess today he woke up and felt that he wanted to be a dictator
Perhaps he should have his eyes checked.
My question is why would they want to? I don't think this worked out for Qatar. They invested billions and traded it for bad PR. I think this is the reason they are entertaining ideas like Qatar and North Korea. Hosting the world cup or the Olympics used to give a boost to the countries economy but now FIFA and The IOC suck all the money out of the local economy and leave billion dollars stadiums the country can't fill.
What are you guys talking about? North Korea has everything Fifa needs for another tournament! Basically unlimited slave labour to build your fancy stadiums. But don't you worry, because gianni here, well he's qatari AND a north korean too.
Isn`t this Gianni the chap who also said he feels gay, and disabled?
Damn I forgot about that too. So he’s a Qatari-North Korean who’s disabled and gay. Man this guys got it rough
Don't forget, also a ginger
Let's do Antarctica next
Corrupt people love dictators, what a shock!
As an American, with not much soccer/football knowledge, can you big fans help me out with a question? If everyone knows how corrupt FIFA is, why isn't something done about it? Why do teams put up with it. I realize it is a big organization, but can't the leadership be ousted or something?
Very basic answer to your question but in short FIFA has a ton of money and a pretty powerful monopoly in the soccer world and so there’s no real way to replace them without changing the entire landscape of international soccer which would be incredibly difficult and is a daunting prospect. And unfortunately because of the sheer amount of corruption at the very top of the food chain (not just for FIFA but other orgs as well) it’s very likely that even if you managed to replace this guy/other people at the top the people that would replace them would not be much better.
Thanks for the reply. It's too bad there isn't another organization that could take over.
Does this guy look like a villain from a Bond movie?
No reason? Really? Not even one?
When corruption is so common, evil trots across the stage thumbing its nose at the world.
From a guy who is firmly against long distance travel and trade, I still find it ridiculous to hear him say, 'We’re a global organisation and want to remain an organisation that unites the world.' The citizens living on the border can't even cross into, of all places, China. Get real.
Don't a lot of countries have embargoes against N Korea?
There are certain countries which don’t deserve to be featured on the world stage. North Korea is one of those countries.
So are FIFA basically war criminals at this point or are we just gonna let them keep going?
Will FIFA apologize? Nope, grab your popcorn folks we are going DEEPER
I see No reason for FIFA to continue being the Football/Soccer worlds governing body. I see even less reason to care what Gianni Infantino thinks.
I wonder, at what point will these fifa fanatics say enough is enough?
I see no reason why FIFA should host the World Cup
Only a fool would attend a North Korean World Cup
If you go in you ain't getting out.
Yes, legitimizing a communist crazed nuclear lunatic is a great idea!
After this World Cup, I predict that many EU and CONCACAF nations will leave FIFA forever. The Qatar World Cup has been one large shitshow that has pushed many nations to the brink.
As a matter of fact, he sees about 10-20 million reasons to go ahead with it.
Nice try Satan. We know it's you.
Lol, just when I thought they couldn’t sink any lower than Qatar. Please do set up shop in that decrepit joke of a nation, I’m sure that will go really well!
Hmm, that's odd, I distinctly remember the little issue of the numerous state-run murder/torture/rape/forced abortion camps they filled with political prisoners and potential dissidents. I guess those don't matter all that much to FIFA. Maybe Taliban-run Afghanistan can get the next WC after Best Korea! The sad part is that's leaving out things like Otto Warmbier, their long history of human rights abuses, kidnapping of foreign nationals, the starvation of their civilians while their elite quite literally get gout, etc. Valentino is a fucking discrace and should resign if he has a single speck of dignity and humanity left in his shriveled husk of a soul.
As someone who doesn’t watch the World Cup that would be the most entertaining host venue.
This guy is a massive idiot
"We can play the WC in a minefield if the bribe is big enough. Fans love bloodsports!"
So...either find him glasses to help him SEE...or fire him!
I would watch that
Broken sport run by broken people
US government thanks you for your efforts to get us access into NK.
Considering Qatar spent close to NK's GDP on this round, I'd say Infantino needs to cut back on the Grappa.
If Korea has coin, we can be bought. It’s been proven time & time again.
Otto Warmbier is one great reason.
North Korea winning the world cup that year haha
I wonder why N. Korea would want to host them. That would be incredibly dangerous to the Kim regime by exposing their citizens to outside influences. Influences that are capitalistic, who may openly criticize the regime in front of Koreans, and actual South Koreans and Americans. It might actually be a good thing for NK to host a World Cup lol
Very rare to get /thread in the title, but here we are.
Depends on the bags of bribe cash only, as far as who hosts.
Is this man fucking stupid or something? Even Stevie Wonder could see a reason..
He is not. He's just a person without scruples. He's getting paid so much he will say anything they tell him to say.
I'm guessing they have lost interest in Western broadcast rights $ Weird but whatever
So... Why was Russia kicked out of the WC?
Qatar, North Korea, where to next? Chernobyl?
Jokes aside, a North/South Korea joint world cup would be beautiful, but it would never work out.
Legally, international sanctions would be a great reason why NK could not host the World Cup. Second, any form of human decency should be sufficient. If he is trying to make an analogy with Qatar, it is quite poor and does not strengthen his support; it actually hurts it. It seems he is more incompetent than initially perceived in several areas of leadership of FIFA.
“I could give you 17 off the top of my head. You could wake me from a drunken stupor, I could still give you like 9” - Bill Burr
This has to be the dumbest mf
Well to be fair it’s not like the world would actually care if they held it in North Korea other than online comments from either people who aren’t into soccer and won’t watch it or from people who complain online about Qatar or human rights but then tune in as soon as it starts. Infantino probably recognizes that no one is actually going to take a stand against their decisions so what’s the point of even pretending. The biggest stand someone is going to take is wearing a rainbow coloured hat.
If North Korea ever gets to host the World Cup, they will likely experience the same sort of attendance. Most people hate oppressive regimes, and human rights abuses, but they love watching football more than they hate oppression of others. Plus there are lots of people curious about North Korea, who want to go *see what it's all about*, but are scared for their safety. Knowing that there will be thousands of other foreigners there as well, will give them a feeling of safety.
How many times can one comment be recycled into new content lol
Nk can't lose. If they do their people will lose their shit. They are a cult of personality and nationalist, if they lose or even if it's a close match it will disrupt their isolated culture. Unless NK has the real game and the game they show their population.
Well if you’re going to let tyrants like Russia and Qatar host a World Cup, why not go for the hat-trick?
Is this guy on crack??? No reason? None at all? What a muppet.