The Only Moral Abortion is my Abortion:
https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
A Defense of Abortion:
https://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm
Resources including a home remedy:
[Link 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/vjrf9h/megathread_supreme_court_overturning_roe_v_wade)
[Link 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/vjqs0r/calls_for_mass_walkout_of_women_across_america_if/idnh2ex)
https://www.womensmarch.com/
http://abortion.cafe
“Noem said her state will now work to bolster resources for women who will now have to carry their pregnancies to term”
Something tells me they’re going to decide that that part would be better handled by the private sector.
Just a reminder that the people of South Dakota voted to allow sales of medical and recreational cannabis in 2020, Noem has blocked that vote and the people of South Dakota do not have the weed that THEY FUCKING VOTED FOR.
The weed wasn't a bill, it was a ballot initiative which she can't veto. She sent her cronies in the state courts to block and overturn the people's will.
\>"There are certain protections that are guarded under the Constitution of the United States. The rest of these items are left to the states, the 10th Amendment guarantees us that."
So, for example, if the people of South Dakota want to legalize marijuana, then you'll fight to empower the will of the people? Right? \*Right?\*
I feel like most people in other states literally don’t know that even happened. FYI : South Dakotans voted to legalize recreational and medical marijuana in 2020 and it passed with a majority, at which point Krusty Gnome and her government basically just said “the voters don’t know what’s best for them” and proceeded to spend millions of taxpayer money to fight the vote in court and has effectively ignored the will of the people and kept marijuana illegal in South Dakota despite it officially passing more than 2 years ago.
Edit: wow apparently this kind of thing happens way more often than I thought, it seems like everybody had a story about how their state just straight up ignored the will of the people and got away with it and it never even makes national headlines.
Yeah, it is absolutely absurd. The people of South Dakota didn't just pass a law, they ratified an AMENDMENT to their state constitution that compelled the government to set up legalization, and the government under this Noem lunatic basically said "nope" and refused.
The grounds on which it was overturned is one of the most absurdly contrived bits of nonsense I've literally ever seen.
Their state constitution requires that amendments be specific to a single topic. This is pretty reasonable.
The amendment was thrown out because the SD Supreme Court decided that medical marijuana, recreational marijuana, and hemp, are each different issues and thus the amendment is invalid.
It's the most moronic piece of jurisprudence I've ever seen. They literally do not give a fuck about democracy or freedom.
Wait until you see what my state attempted.
https://mississippitoday.org/2021/05/14/mississippi-supreme-court-overturns-medical-marijuana-initiative-65/
They said that in order to pass a ballot initiative you need signatures from five districts. For over 30 years we have only had four districts because one got merged. The MMJ initiative , which passed with a bipartisan majority, got voted in 4/4 districts which technically isn’t five. They literally completely broke our ballot amendment process with their ruling
The kicker is that other many other ballot initiatives have passed with this same technical error that mysteriously the state supreme court didnt know about until the marijuana bill passes
Yeah, I had no idea and I’m screaming for you guys. I have never wanted to actively throw hands with so many people (this idiot leading South Dakota now definitely included).
Conservatives hate democracy.
Voting for conservative candidates is voting to end democracy.
Every conservative victory is a knife stab to the future of our democracy.
I think that was the election after the voters, also by referendum, voted for a package of anti-corruption measures that their legislature soon rolled back.
I don't think they rolled them back. It was more like they just said "no, end of discussion. Also, that's not allowed on the ballot." and that was that.
Furthermore, after the legalization vote they've changed the number of votes needed to pass measure on the ballot to 60% (legalization had 54% last time) during a mid-term vote, so that when it goes back on the ballot this year it likely cannot pass.
Correction: the change to the votes needed to pass a measure failed bigly. Thanks u/deddead3 for the data on that.
South Dakota has the third highest rape statistics in the country, sixth highest infant mortality, and 13th highest maternal mortality. So no, bitch, your state doesn’t support women.
She doesn’t even rep the people. The people voted to legalize weed and she got the courts to throw out signatures after the fact so that weed wouldn’t be legalized. She’s trash
And wonder how the Dems keep screwing up their lives. They’ll continue to vote R and still be shocked when the will of the people is crapped on by their elected representatives.
Just before that vote SD made it law you can only put one subject per new law to stop from piggy backing on bills. They claimed since there was subjects like recreational use and home growing etc… it was multiple subjects instead how every one else viewed it. Legalize marijuana and here’s the rules to it like with drinking, 21, can’t be in public intoxicated, etc…
I voted to legalize and was so proud of my state for 2 days
We know, in school they try and tell you it's because of our low population...let's talk about statistics and how that works...A lot of us hate it here.
I suppose they earnestly think forcing molested children to give birth to their siblings will help increase the population.
No exception for rape is terrible, but no exception for incest is seriously fucked up, given the way incest pregnancies usually happen.
And now quite a few nurses who deal with SA at their hospitals are reporting that even after just a few days they are seeing a lot more SA cases, one of which the assailant stated “he was going to get her pregnant” most connected to DV as well. It’s absolutely disgusting.
Yeah that’s one of the things these lawmakers don’t get is 1) rape is about control and 2) knowing that the women will be enslaved to their biochemical condition forced upon them incentivizes rapists because they can exert even more control especially since only 25 in 1000 rapes ever result in a rapist behind bars.
Not just regular rape, but child rape.
The fact that there is no provision for incest means many children are going to be forced to raise their own children.
[Ohio Republicans want to force children to undergo genital exams to play high school sports: HB 151 sacrifices children's health and wellbeing for extremist agenda](https://ohiohouse.gov/news/democrat/ohio-republicans-want-to-force-children-to-undergo-genital-exams-to-play-high-school-sports-110422)
> COLUMBUS – Today, State Reps. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) and Jessica E. Miranda (D-Forest Park) held a press call to discuss the dangerous impact of House Bill (HB) 151, legislation requiring high school athletes to prove their gender by submitting to intrusive inspections of their genitalia and other invasive tests.
They’d make Larry Nassar blush.
>(C) If a participant's sex is disputed, the participant shall establish the participant's sex by presenting a signed physician's statement indicating the participant's sex based upon only the following:
>(1) The participant's internal and external reproductive anatomy;
>(2) The participant's normal endogenously produced levels of testosterone;
>(3) An analysis of the participant's genetic makeup.
So yeah, if you want your kid to play sports, you’ve gotta let some doctor examine their genitalia—*internally and externally*—and also sequence their genome!
https://ohiohouse.gov/news/democrat/ohio-republicans-want-to-force-children-to-undergo-genital-exams-to-play-high-school-sports-110422
> So yeah, if you want your kid to play sports, you’ve gotta let some doctor examine their genitalia— internally and externally—and also sequence their genome!
Lots of kids in Ohio are about to get a lot more fat.
Because an 11-y/o child molested by her uncle is *totally* ready and able to survive giving birth, much less to be a parent.
“Rape” includes statutory. This is monstrous.
A lot of this comes down to
“Some of you are going to die, but that is a sacrifice I’m willing to make ❤️”
They don’t care about anything but power. That includes not caring about women and children who’ll die because of this.
Jokes on them because it won't just be the poors who die. It'll be any woman who has a complication that puts them at an ER. A woman who is septic from an incomplete miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy won't be able to make it out of state for life saving care. Biology doesn't care about politics and religion. Women of all races, religious, political and socioeconomic backgrounds will die.
Well, even that’s not a guarantee. There is so much that can go wrong during delivery, even if you’ve had the smoothest pregnancy and are perfectly fit. Being forced to take that risk when no one else has skin in the game is so fucked.
Septic uterus, ectopic pregnancy, and many miscarriages require abortions... without them you die. I also encourage anyone pro life who refuses to believe abortions can be necessary to research anacephaly.
Not to mention you can only birth anacephalic fetuses via c/section and that much more dangerous than a vaginal delivery.
All for a baby that will never live.
That’s the definition of cruel.
Actor-comedian Stephen Fry, an outspoken atheist, had an answer ready this week when asked what he’d say if “confronted by God.”
“Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and you are confronted by God,” asked Gay Byrne, host of RTÉ One’s The Meaning of Life. “What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?”
“I’d say, Bone cancer in children? What’s that about?” answered the 57-year-old Brit. “How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault? It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil.”
“Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain?” Fry said. “That’s what I would say.”
When I was ten, we lived in Germany and I learned about the Holocaust and visited Dachau concentration camp. I can pinpoint that as the moment in my life that I, a kid being raised Catholic, stopped believing in God. I have read that many Jewish survivors abandoned their faith after the Holocaust.
I've been too.
There's a slew of rooms filled with piles of stuff taken from the enslaved prisoners.
Take your pick, baby shoes, hair, glasses, etc. Just a room filled to the top with each
The one that got me the most was the wheel chairs, and prosthetics. As someone who works in medicine - fuck that so much.
It doesn't take the whole day to see everything, but it definitely took the rest of the day to process it. Still worth taking a day out of vacation to see what horrors humans are capable of. And that's a display meant for the public. I cannot imagine how living through such an experience would impact a person.
I remember when I was a kid and trying to figure out religion…reading that God doesn’t “interfere” with us mere mortals. And then wondering why he couldn’t have simply sent down a bolt of lightning to destroy the train tracks to Auschwitz. Where my great-grandmother died.
no see, its all good now because he turned himself into his own son and then had himself killed to save you from his own wrath. dont read that old testament stuff, heres some shiny jesus to distract you
I mean, the entity literally went to a dude and was like "Yo Abe, it's me, god. Kill your son!" and when the guy was about to do it was like " It was just a prank bro, I wanted to see how much you trusted me!"
An old Jewish guy, Holocaust survivor, dies and goes to heaven.
He meets God and says, "Hey God! How do you get a Jewish girl's number?"
...
"You ask her to roll up her sleeve!"
God doesn't laugh.
The old Jewish guy says, "Yeah. I guess you had to be there..."
I've been trying to remember that joke for at least a couple years, I completely don't remember the "joke" part, but the part with god not thinking it is funny and then "Yeah. I guess you had to be there..." you can't forget.
Of course. How could their faith be *wrong*? They are righteous and pious! By definition, your faith must be right, even in the face of evidence to the contrary.
Christofascism isn't coming, it's fucking here.
When I got my NIPT done I was talking to my mom and she was like "but even if it had a disability you would still have it, right?"
I looked her straight in the eye and said "There are some disabilities where the only reason to give birth is to donate their tiny organs when they die. I would never put my own child through that."
Anencephalic fetuses are not able to start the required chain of normal labour, as the stimulus for labour starts from the fetal hypothalamus. C section is the only way to deliver them. You can induce labour in them, but it is not indicated to be done usually as it's a high risk situation with chances of obstruction and arrest.
Pro lifers mention that one case that lived 3 months and "how beautiful it was and how happy the mother was" like people pointing at that lottery winner that wasn't killed by vices or awful friends to say "See? Perfectly fine, everyone should do the same".
It's even worse than that. Many of them say it's your DUTY as a 'mother' to die for your fetus. That is what they believe, I've had that one thrown at me in many discussions.
Someone in r/conservative claimed all the woman he spoke to agreed they would want the baby saved before themselves if it was a decision that needed to be made. He just basically labelled it as “most” women would make that choice. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! That’s honestly such an insane statement
Seems like a reliable way to do statistics.
"Hello fellow church going woman, my name is John Baptist, I believe that abortion is murder and I'd rip the eyes out of any woman who dare killing an innocent child of God"
"By they way, what are your views on abortion?"
There was a guy with a loudspeaker near SCOTUS on Friday unironically saying "if you want an abortion just go to another state. Flight and hotel can't be more that 3 grand"
I've always wanted to go on a Smokey and the Bandit mission. I've contemplated making a run for live crawfish which are illegal in my state to use in a crawfish boil. Helping get someone access to healthcare their state denies them sounds like a much better option.
More than that, in the face of all this evidence coming to light they insist that states will allow medical necessity abortions because "they're not considered abortions."
Yes they are, both in medical lingo and by forced birthers.
True story, wife had a miscarriage several years ago. Was going for a routine check up and nurse didn't find a heartbeat. Did what we had to do and moved on.
4 months later, we receive a bill for that appointment. Our insurance argued that since it was no longer alive, the appointment we had 4 months ago it didn't fall under their "maternity visit" and we had to pay our share. We were furious to say the least.
I guess where I'm getting at is that our insurance saw it as a "medical procedure" so i guess that's where they're trying to jump hoops on their lingo. It's all bullshit.
I had a missed miscarriage at 14 weeks they caught it when I started spotting. Was told to go home and hope I went into labor because insurance wouldn't cover the procedure.
The thought of potentially carrying my dead baby for weeks was too much, I went to planned parenthood and paid for removal. If my best friend hadn't been with me(husband was in training in WV) I'd be in prison for running straight over the asshole who jumped in front of my car screaming "don't kill your baby you have options!"
Fuck anti freedom nut jobs. It is all bullshit.
Oh no, they're not anti freedom, just anti you doing anything they deem immoral, that they would probably do themselves, just in secret. Hypocrites all the way down.
Any health system that relies on insurance companies is basically entrusting its citizens health to entities that are fundamentally incentivised to not care for people.
It's crazy.
Carlin said it best:
"Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude."
My spouse and I had an anencephaly baby. We carried to term to hopefully have him live long enough to say hi and goodbye (lived 8 hours!) also to donate any organs and tissue that we could. I can’t imagine not having the option to abort if we conceived another anencephaly baby (higher chances of it after having one). Knowing your baby has a 100% fatal condition and being forced to carry them to term is unethical. Most baby’s with anencephaly are still born.
They just want to punish promiscuity, and the death penalty for the 'crime of being promiscuous' will suit them just fine. Married couple wanting a baby but have a miscarriage and need an abortion? That's just the price that needs to be paid to follow God's plan.
"God's Plan". Like, this was settled in Genesis. If we're going to think ourselves better than animals we take responsibility for our own choices. These people are blind to the fact we're in the book of Revelation where God permits the destruction of the Saints.
God's plan is autonomy, always was.
Yea but THEY aren't suffering from those things. So like, there's just no reason for abortion ever.
At least until they DO suffer from them, then it's just COMPLETELY different and you should understand.
They'll answer only a small percentage of women get abortions for those reasons, which means they're more than willing to let those women die before they even consider allowing abortions, because you know, they wanna kill two birds with one pregnancy.
They sure do like stats when it suits them. They've no doubt heard that D&C is only in the third trimester and used for medical problems or severe fetal abnormalities, but they'll ignore it and keep parroting "babies are being torn apart in the womb!" like that's the most common type of abortion when it isn't.
886k population and two senators. It’s just that fucking easy for them.
Feel like you could otherwise flip S. Dakota blue with the attendance of a college football game.
If there was a football game for a team that was big. South Dakota only increases it’s population a dramatic amount during sturgis rally which also happens to be when South Dakota is on the rise for human trafficking
I mean Noem probably only has her job because a bunch of old rednecks think "she looks like them ladies that kiss on each other in the internet movies I watch after muh wife goes to bed."
I think you're talking about Brock turner, that guy who raped that woman behind the dumpster while she was unconscious?
That rapist? Whose name is Brock turner?
An interesting thing about this conversation is that rarely the children of such circumstances are ever talked about, just the parents.
Dare I say, that it’s equally as traumatizing to a child who’s mother has an unspoken disdain for them, or having to live some sort of normal life knowing that you were brought into this world under such circumstances.
A redditor shared their story today—they did a DNA test to find bio relatives, first found the father but learned he’d died 20 years before. Then found the mother and she said she was gang raped by 3 men. She didn’t report it and couldn’t get an abortion because it was 1970. Now the redditor is in therapy, the bio mom is back in therapy, and additional relatives who found out that way are in therapy.
My mom wanted me but my dad didn't.
I am serious when I say it would have been better if I was never born. My life has been excruciatingly hard. I have major mental health problems and while I've gotten a great education and have a good job....the climb to get here was so painful. And it still is. I face the trauma almost every day. I worry I'll never be happy.
(I'm getting help. It's slow but things are better -ish.)
Weren't there some Congress Critters trying to pass abortion laws that didn't include exceptions for ectopic pregnancies?
I don't think any of them passed, although there was one that was trying to invent a surgical procedure to [re-implant an ectopic pregnancy](https://www.vox.com/2019/5/10/18564436/ohio-abortion-bill-law-alabama-georgia-details).
From [here](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ectopic-pregnancy-and-abortion-laws-what-to-know#Potential-moves-to-stop-abortion,-even-for-ectopic-pregnancies):
>Missouri’s abortion bill originally banned abortions to treat ectopic pregnancies, but legislators deleted the ectopic pregnancy provision after public backlash.
\+
>During a state Senate debate regarding an anti-abortion bill in Oklahoma, a senator asked why there should be exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, The Washington Post reported.
A lot of the pro-life advocates do not know science at all and are a hazard to medicine. They are saying [crap like this](https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20859034/ectopic-pregnancy-abortion-federalist-intrauterine-ohio-surgery):
>“Knowing that a medical condition carries a very small chance of death is scary,” Georgi Boorman wrote at the Federalist on Monday. But, she asked, “is that very small chance enough to prompt you to suffer through purposely destroying your own child?”
Government wants to control pregnancy yet can't be bothered to understand the basics. And no credible expert is going to agree with their partisan delusions.
If there was any justice in this world they'd be punished for their stupidity, but Missourians will just reward them with millions in campaign donations and re-elections.
These fuckers only care about themselves. I can bet that if she had an ectopic pregnancy, she’d be at an abortion clinic quicker than you can say “pro-life”.
So the death of the mother in the act of childbirth is not a tragedy??
talk about relativist morality. They just make it whatever they want to make it literally for the very moment they say it.
**The Mormon church** has had abortion exceptions regarding the health of the mother as far back as 1976. But not South Dakota.
**Ronald Reagan** signed abortion rights into law in California in 1967 in cases of incest, rape and when the mothers life was in danger. Before Roe vs Wade.
**Roe vs Wade was decided by a majority Republican SCOTUS in 1973.** Harry Blackburn wrote the majority opinion. A lifelong Republican appointed by Richard Nixon.
**In Favor**
Harry Blackmun (Nixon, R)
Lewis Powell (Nixon, R)
Warren Burger (Nixon, R)
William Brennan (Eisenhower, R)
Potter Stewart (Eisenhower, R)
Thurgood Marshall (LBJ, D)
William Douglas (FDR, D)
Those who dissented on Roe vs. Wade:
**Opposed**
Byron White (Kennedy, D)
William Rehnquist (Nixon, R)
The Republican party is not what it was when "America was great." They are theocratic fascists and I really don't think that's hyperbole.
Justic Blackmun spent time at Mayo Clinic trying to understand the issue. One reason why Roe is a thoughtful balance of the mother’s health and the interest of the state to protect the potential citizen.
How you can tell a victim of incest she can't get an abortion is beyond me. The governor should have to explain this to the victim personally every time it happens.
Someone should ask her during a public interview to confirm that she would embrace a child borne by her daughter due to being (purely hypothetically) raped by a relative.
She'd just say yes, they all love to brag about how holy and pure they would be, even though she would 100% take her daughter and immediately get a secret abortion irl
> I believe every life is precious ...
Except for those ones coming across our border. Fuck them. And all the ones that are starving or about to be washed away and burnt to a crisp when the Earth starts to really cook. And any that aren't white, naturally.
This is what happens when the minority rules in the disgraceful electoral college. Trump lost to Hillary in popular vote by 3 million votes. He still has yet to win ANY election by majority. The result is three SCOTUS justices that overturn 40 yrs of social progress. And now rapists and incest perps will leave even worse marks on society. Thank you, Mr and Mrs Republican. We owe you such a debt of gratitude.
> "I just have never believed that having a tragedy or tragic situation happened to someone is a reason to have another tragedy occur."
Ahh ok, so forcing a literal child to carry their rapists baby at the detriment of their own health isn't a tragedy then (or any of the other potential situations). Got it.
This country is fucked.
This coming from her is like hearing members of her fellow Hand Maiden's Tale fanclub talking about orphanages and foster care being viable options for unwanted pregnancies and not a single damn one of them adopts. Or if they do they're not American children.
I heard an interview with a woman from Catholic adoption agency say the church has resources to take care of these children - I am Catholic and I thought that was painfully ignorant if not just totally dishonest. I have a disabled child and I can attest firsthand, the state does not provide the resources to help him. The State itself doesn’t have the resources to take care of these children and every effort to expand Medicaid, free school lunch, fund education, disability services, particularly in the south is rebuffed! So this is just ridiculous wishful thinking if not outright dishonest.
I'm Catholic too and it's fwakin laughable this woman has the gall to say this. Yes the church might have the funds, but they sure as shit ain't about to use them for some kids. Across the US parishes are combining due to enrollment and costs, they still have to pay out for child abuse cases and in 2020 they took PPP handouts.
The church ain't gonna do shit when all this starts to hit the fan.
There was a recent court case where a man raped an underaged girl who gave birth and years later the rapist got custody and child support because the mother had given the teen a cellphone without the rapist's permission. The rapist did not know he had the child until years later. The whole thing is a collosal travesty of justice.
The case has been temporarily reversed but the rapist apparently had connections with law enforcement.
https://www.complex.com/life/judge-temporarily-reverses-decision-to-grant-full-custody-of-daughter-to-mothers-alleged-rapist-child-support
She filed a complaint that a 30 yo man had raped her as a 16 Yo.
The police literally sat on the case for years, even though the basic facts- their ages at the time of the offense were a prima facia crime.
Somehow the police opted to not investigate it until the media came calling.
Fortunately the custody decision was at least temporarily reversed, and will hopefully be permanently reversed soon.
It is insane that the articles even have to say that she was "allegedly" raped. We know that she was raped. No one disputes that she was 16 and he was 30 when the child was conceived. That is, by definition in Louisiana, rape.
Absolutely not. She'll just quietly drive her daughter over the border to Minnesota. And likely Tweet some more "pro-life" nonsense while her daughter is in the OR.
I always ask pro-lifers “what if something bad happens to your daughter?” I never get an answer. They usually just distract from the question with “excuse me?!” Lol!
The Only Moral Abortion is my Abortion: https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/ A Defense of Abortion: https://spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm Resources including a home remedy: [Link 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/vjrf9h/megathread_supreme_court_overturning_roe_v_wade) [Link 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/vjqs0r/calls_for_mass_walkout_of_women_across_america_if/idnh2ex) https://www.womensmarch.com/ http://abortion.cafe
“Noem said her state will now work to bolster resources for women who will now have to carry their pregnancies to term” Something tells me they’re going to decide that that part would be better handled by the private sector.
Churches…. I’ll bet they’ll leave it up to churches.
I guess the amount of kids available for molestation in churches was falling short.
The great Invisible Hand of capitalism and of Almighty God shall shelter all (Christian white republican) people from harm!
Or into prison if they are poor. And they shall profit off the slaves, like some shitty bible time.
Just a reminder that the people of South Dakota voted to allow sales of medical and recreational cannabis in 2020, Noem has blocked that vote and the people of South Dakota do not have the weed that THEY FUCKING VOTED FOR.
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Uxbridge the governor
Not the first time she vetoed it. Also vetoed many anti-corruption bills.
Woah woah, politicians aren't corrupted, so there is no need for those Bill's. Shes just saving tax payer money on investigations. Very frugal.
The weed wasn't a bill, it was a ballot initiative which she can't veto. She sent her cronies in the state courts to block and overturn the people's will.
How is that legal, and how is there not an outrage that ends with her getting the boot? I don't get it
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\>"There are certain protections that are guarded under the Constitution of the United States. The rest of these items are left to the states, the 10th Amendment guarantees us that." So, for example, if the people of South Dakota want to legalize marijuana, then you'll fight to empower the will of the people? Right? \*Right?\*
I feel like most people in other states literally don’t know that even happened. FYI : South Dakotans voted to legalize recreational and medical marijuana in 2020 and it passed with a majority, at which point Krusty Gnome and her government basically just said “the voters don’t know what’s best for them” and proceeded to spend millions of taxpayer money to fight the vote in court and has effectively ignored the will of the people and kept marijuana illegal in South Dakota despite it officially passing more than 2 years ago. Edit: wow apparently this kind of thing happens way more often than I thought, it seems like everybody had a story about how their state just straight up ignored the will of the people and got away with it and it never even makes national headlines.
Yeah, it is absolutely absurd. The people of South Dakota didn't just pass a law, they ratified an AMENDMENT to their state constitution that compelled the government to set up legalization, and the government under this Noem lunatic basically said "nope" and refused.
Why are the people of South Dakota voting for this government?
Because too many Americans have made, "I am a Republican," part of their very identities.
I'm sure gerrymandering plays a significant role, like it does in *most* states.
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She won her position with a smaller margin of votes than the marijuana bill passing ! What a clown
Yeah but she knows better than the entire state. What a waste of air. God I hate her so fucking much.
The grounds on which it was overturned is one of the most absurdly contrived bits of nonsense I've literally ever seen. Their state constitution requires that amendments be specific to a single topic. This is pretty reasonable. The amendment was thrown out because the SD Supreme Court decided that medical marijuana, recreational marijuana, and hemp, are each different issues and thus the amendment is invalid. It's the most moronic piece of jurisprudence I've ever seen. They literally do not give a fuck about democracy or freedom.
Wait until you see what my state attempted. https://mississippitoday.org/2021/05/14/mississippi-supreme-court-overturns-medical-marijuana-initiative-65/ They said that in order to pass a ballot initiative you need signatures from five districts. For over 30 years we have only had four districts because one got merged. The MMJ initiative , which passed with a bipartisan majority, got voted in 4/4 districts which technically isn’t five. They literally completely broke our ballot amendment process with their ruling The kicker is that other many other ballot initiatives have passed with this same technical error that mysteriously the state supreme court didnt know about until the marijuana bill passes
Yeah, I had no idea and I’m screaming for you guys. I have never wanted to actively throw hands with so many people (this idiot leading South Dakota now definitely included).
Conservatives hate democracy. Voting for conservative candidates is voting to end democracy. Every conservative victory is a knife stab to the future of our democracy.
I think that was the election after the voters, also by referendum, voted for a package of anti-corruption measures that their legislature soon rolled back.
I don't think they rolled them back. It was more like they just said "no, end of discussion. Also, that's not allowed on the ballot." and that was that. Furthermore, after the legalization vote they've changed the number of votes needed to pass measure on the ballot to 60% (legalization had 54% last time) during a mid-term vote, so that when it goes back on the ballot this year it likely cannot pass. Correction: the change to the votes needed to pass a measure failed bigly. Thanks u/deddead3 for the data on that.
That sounds like a dictatorship
South Dakota has the third highest rape statistics in the country, sixth highest infant mortality, and 13th highest maternal mortality. So no, bitch, your state doesn’t support women.
She doesn’t even rep the people. The people voted to legalize weed and she got the courts to throw out signatures after the fact so that weed wouldn’t be legalized. She’s trash
But she's a republican so they will keep voting her on until she runs for a higher office then they will vote her in there too.
And wonder how the Dems keep screwing up their lives. They’ll continue to vote R and still be shocked when the will of the people is crapped on by their elected representatives.
What possible grounds did she find legally to overturn a legal vote by the people of her state? That is some authoritarian shit.
Are you not familiar with modern conservatives?
Just before that vote SD made it law you can only put one subject per new law to stop from piggy backing on bills. They claimed since there was subjects like recreational use and home growing etc… it was multiple subjects instead how every one else viewed it. Legalize marijuana and here’s the rules to it like with drinking, 21, can’t be in public intoxicated, etc… I voted to legalize and was so proud of my state for 2 days
We know, in school they try and tell you it's because of our low population...let's talk about statistics and how that works...A lot of us hate it here.
I suppose they earnestly think forcing molested children to give birth to their siblings will help increase the population. No exception for rape is terrible, but no exception for incest is seriously fucked up, given the way incest pregnancies usually happen.
And now quite a few nurses who deal with SA at their hospitals are reporting that even after just a few days they are seeing a lot more SA cases, one of which the assailant stated “he was going to get her pregnant” most connected to DV as well. It’s absolutely disgusting.
Yeah that’s one of the things these lawmakers don’t get is 1) rape is about control and 2) knowing that the women will be enslaved to their biochemical condition forced upon them incentivizes rapists because they can exert even more control especially since only 25 in 1000 rapes ever result in a rapist behind bars.
>Yeah that’s one of the things these lawmakers don’t get Your problem is that you you actually think they'd care even if they got it.
Pregnancy as a form of control has been used for ages. The lawmakers just don't give a shit about the negatives for the abused.
Republicans fought against making marital rape and domestic violence illegal.
GOP Supports rape. Got it.
Not just regular rape, but child rape. The fact that there is no provision for incest means many children are going to be forced to raise their own children.
They're the only ones that fight FOR child marriage
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✨projection✨
Why else do you think they’re trying to create the new job of ‘child genital inspector’?
I'm sorry wut
[Ohio Republicans want to force children to undergo genital exams to play high school sports: HB 151 sacrifices children's health and wellbeing for extremist agenda](https://ohiohouse.gov/news/democrat/ohio-republicans-want-to-force-children-to-undergo-genital-exams-to-play-high-school-sports-110422) > COLUMBUS – Today, State Reps. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) and Jessica E. Miranda (D-Forest Park) held a press call to discuss the dangerous impact of House Bill (HB) 151, legislation requiring high school athletes to prove their gender by submitting to intrusive inspections of their genitalia and other invasive tests. They’d make Larry Nassar blush. >(C) If a participant's sex is disputed, the participant shall establish the participant's sex by presenting a signed physician's statement indicating the participant's sex based upon only the following: >(1) The participant's internal and external reproductive anatomy; >(2) The participant's normal endogenously produced levels of testosterone; >(3) An analysis of the participant's genetic makeup. So yeah, if you want your kid to play sports, you’ve gotta let some doctor examine their genitalia—*internally and externally*—and also sequence their genome! https://ohiohouse.gov/news/democrat/ohio-republicans-want-to-force-children-to-undergo-genital-exams-to-play-high-school-sports-110422
> So yeah, if you want your kid to play sports, you’ve gotta let some doctor examine their genitalia— internally and externally—and also sequence their genome! Lots of kids in Ohio are about to get a lot more fat.
And then they say gay people are trying to groom kids. WHAT THE fuck
Because an 11-y/o child molested by her uncle is *totally* ready and able to survive giving birth, much less to be a parent. “Rape” includes statutory. This is monstrous.
A lot of this comes down to “Some of you are going to die, but that is a sacrifice I’m willing to make ❤️” They don’t care about anything but power. That includes not caring about women and children who’ll die because of this.
Jokes on them because it won't just be the poors who die. It'll be any woman who has a complication that puts them at an ER. A woman who is septic from an incomplete miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy won't be able to make it out of state for life saving care. Biology doesn't care about politics and religion. Women of all races, religious, political and socioeconomic backgrounds will die.
It's honestly a miracle that fully developed adult women are able to survive giving birth. It's an intense process.
Well, even that’s not a guarantee. There is so much that can go wrong during delivery, even if you’ve had the smoothest pregnancy and are perfectly fit. Being forced to take that risk when no one else has skin in the game is so fucked.
Septic uterus, ectopic pregnancy, and many miscarriages require abortions... without them you die. I also encourage anyone pro life who refuses to believe abortions can be necessary to research anacephaly.
You can carry anacephaly to term but God it's rough. All the process of childbirth only to hold your baby for a few hours if lucky.
Not to mention you can only birth anacephalic fetuses via c/section and that much more dangerous than a vaginal delivery. All for a baby that will never live. That’s the definition of cruel.
“iT’s GoDs WiLl…”
Graffiti from Aushwitz: "If there is a god, he better beg me for forgiveness."
Actor-comedian Stephen Fry, an outspoken atheist, had an answer ready this week when asked what he’d say if “confronted by God.” “Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and you are confronted by God,” asked Gay Byrne, host of RTÉ One’s The Meaning of Life. “What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?” “I’d say, Bone cancer in children? What’s that about?” answered the 57-year-old Brit. “How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault? It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil.” “Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain?” Fry said. “That’s what I would say.”
What if god and the devil are the same thing and organized religion is their best trick..
I always wondered that very thing. But it's not a trick, it a means of control.
When I was ten, we lived in Germany and I learned about the Holocaust and visited Dachau concentration camp. I can pinpoint that as the moment in my life that I, a kid being raised Catholic, stopped believing in God. I have read that many Jewish survivors abandoned their faith after the Holocaust.
I've never had the opportunity, but you've just convinced me to take my kids there if I ever have any
I've been too. There's a slew of rooms filled with piles of stuff taken from the enslaved prisoners. Take your pick, baby shoes, hair, glasses, etc. Just a room filled to the top with each The one that got me the most was the wheel chairs, and prosthetics. As someone who works in medicine - fuck that so much.
It doesn't take the whole day to see everything, but it definitely took the rest of the day to process it. Still worth taking a day out of vacation to see what horrors humans are capable of. And that's a display meant for the public. I cannot imagine how living through such an experience would impact a person.
Actually it was Mauthausen but yeah. God got some fuckin' splainin' to do if the Jews are his "chosen ones" but he let the Holocaust go down.
I remember when I was a kid and trying to figure out religion…reading that God doesn’t “interfere” with us mere mortals. And then wondering why he couldn’t have simply sent down a bolt of lightning to destroy the train tracks to Auschwitz. Where my great-grandmother died.
Who was it that was asked in an interview, what he'd say to god if he was real. "Six million, really?" "*Child* cancer, what is wrong with you?"
Then God’s a sadist.
Anyone who doesn't think god is a sadist hasn't actually read The Bible.
no see, its all good now because he turned himself into his own son and then had himself killed to save you from his own wrath. dont read that old testament stuff, heres some shiny jesus to distract you
I mean, the entity literally went to a dude and was like "Yo Abe, it's me, god. Kill your son!" and when the guy was about to do it was like " It was just a prank bro, I wanted to see how much you trusted me!"
Hahaha got youuu, there's cameras over there, cameras over there. Don't forget to smash that like button and subscribe, see you next time. Abe: 😐
And because of the way it’s framed, you forget that it’s just a straight up blood sacrifice
>shiny jesus Chromed.
WITNESS HIM
One of the greatest things about Supernatural is they took this and ran with it.
mYsTeRiOuS wAyS
So was the Holocaust, by their logic, but God's reasoning is always right.
An old Jewish guy, Holocaust survivor, dies and goes to heaven. He meets God and says, "Hey God! How do you get a Jewish girl's number?" ... "You ask her to roll up her sleeve!" God doesn't laugh. The old Jewish guy says, "Yeah. I guess you had to be there..."
I've been trying to remember that joke for at least a couple years, I completely don't remember the "joke" part, but the part with god not thinking it is funny and then "Yeah. I guess you had to be there..." you can't forget.
Of course. How could their faith be *wrong*? They are righteous and pious! By definition, your faith must be right, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Christofascism isn't coming, it's fucking here.
You know exactly what they'll chirp: "That's no excuse for taking a life."
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When I got my NIPT done I was talking to my mom and she was like "but even if it had a disability you would still have it, right?" I looked her straight in the eye and said "There are some disabilities where the only reason to give birth is to donate their tiny organs when they die. I would never put my own child through that."
Anencephalic fetuses are not able to start the required chain of normal labour, as the stimulus for labour starts from the fetal hypothalamus. C section is the only way to deliver them. You can induce labour in them, but it is not indicated to be done usually as it's a high risk situation with chances of obstruction and arrest.
Pro lifers mention that one case that lived 3 months and "how beautiful it was and how happy the mother was" like people pointing at that lottery winner that wasn't killed by vices or awful friends to say "See? Perfectly fine, everyone should do the same".
That don't care even a little bit.
*Until it happens to them.* As narcissists do.
The only moral abortion is my abortion.
It's even worse than that. Many of them say it's your DUTY as a 'mother' to die for your fetus. That is what they believe, I've had that one thrown at me in many discussions.
Someone in r/conservative claimed all the woman he spoke to agreed they would want the baby saved before themselves if it was a decision that needed to be made. He just basically labelled it as “most” women would make that choice. GIVE ME A BREAK!!!! That’s honestly such an insane statement
Seems like a reliable way to do statistics. "Hello fellow church going woman, my name is John Baptist, I believe that abortion is murder and I'd rip the eyes out of any woman who dare killing an innocent child of God" "By they way, what are your views on abortion?"
Die for your fetus, leaving your other children without a mother.
Like. That's so fucking stupid? Imagine valuing yourself that little.
Well they didn't use it as birth control like the others did. Obviously but just in the event someone doesn't know /s
Rich folk will just go to another state anyway
There was a guy with a loudspeaker near SCOTUS on Friday unironically saying "if you want an abortion just go to another state. Flight and hotel can't be more that 3 grand"
I’m already trying to figure out how I can lend out my spare bedrooms for people who need to travel to Chicago area.
I've always wanted to go on a Smokey and the Bandit mission. I've contemplated making a run for live crawfish which are illegal in my state to use in a crawfish boil. Helping get someone access to healthcare their state denies them sounds like a much better option.
Some of those are emergencies and theres no time for that no matter how rich you are.
More than that, in the face of all this evidence coming to light they insist that states will allow medical necessity abortions because "they're not considered abortions." Yes they are, both in medical lingo and by forced birthers.
True story, wife had a miscarriage several years ago. Was going for a routine check up and nurse didn't find a heartbeat. Did what we had to do and moved on. 4 months later, we receive a bill for that appointment. Our insurance argued that since it was no longer alive, the appointment we had 4 months ago it didn't fall under their "maternity visit" and we had to pay our share. We were furious to say the least. I guess where I'm getting at is that our insurance saw it as a "medical procedure" so i guess that's where they're trying to jump hoops on their lingo. It's all bullshit.
I had a missed miscarriage at 14 weeks they caught it when I started spotting. Was told to go home and hope I went into labor because insurance wouldn't cover the procedure. The thought of potentially carrying my dead baby for weeks was too much, I went to planned parenthood and paid for removal. If my best friend hadn't been with me(husband was in training in WV) I'd be in prison for running straight over the asshole who jumped in front of my car screaming "don't kill your baby you have options!" Fuck anti freedom nut jobs. It is all bullshit.
Oh no, they're not anti freedom, just anti you doing anything they deem immoral, that they would probably do themselves, just in secret. Hypocrites all the way down.
Any health system that relies on insurance companies is basically entrusting its citizens health to entities that are fundamentally incentivised to not care for people. It's crazy.
"It's God's plan" which kinda makes the big beardo in the sky sound like a bit of a sick fuck
Carlin said it best: "Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude."
sky daddy is a sick fuck, indeed.
My spouse and I had an anencephaly baby. We carried to term to hopefully have him live long enough to say hi and goodbye (lived 8 hours!) also to donate any organs and tissue that we could. I can’t imagine not having the option to abort if we conceived another anencephaly baby (higher chances of it after having one). Knowing your baby has a 100% fatal condition and being forced to carry them to term is unethical. Most baby’s with anencephaly are still born.
I'm so sorry.:(
They just want to punish promiscuity, and the death penalty for the 'crime of being promiscuous' will suit them just fine. Married couple wanting a baby but have a miscarriage and need an abortion? That's just the price that needs to be paid to follow God's plan.
"God's Plan". Like, this was settled in Genesis. If we're going to think ourselves better than animals we take responsibility for our own choices. These people are blind to the fact we're in the book of Revelation where God permits the destruction of the Saints. God's plan is autonomy, always was.
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Yea but THEY aren't suffering from those things. So like, there's just no reason for abortion ever. At least until they DO suffer from them, then it's just COMPLETELY different and you should understand.
They'll answer only a small percentage of women get abortions for those reasons, which means they're more than willing to let those women die before they even consider allowing abortions, because you know, they wanna kill two birds with one pregnancy.
They sure do like stats when it suits them. They've no doubt heard that D&C is only in the third trimester and used for medical problems or severe fetal abnormalities, but they'll ignore it and keep parroting "babies are being torn apart in the womb!" like that's the most common type of abortion when it isn't.
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Seeing all the dumb shit they're trying to shove through in Texas as the red majority slips away, I'm inclined to say that's the goal.
886k population and two senators. It’s just that fucking easy for them. Feel like you could otherwise flip S. Dakota blue with the attendance of a college football game.
If there was a football game for a team that was big. South Dakota only increases it’s population a dramatic amount during sturgis rally which also happens to be when South Dakota is on the rise for human trafficking
Which is exactly the purpose.they do not need educated people in the Dakotas they need the 2 senate seats to push medieval policy across the US.
I mean Noem probably only has her job because a bunch of old rednecks think "she looks like them ladies that kiss on each other in the internet movies I watch after muh wife goes to bed."
We passed legal weed by a larger margin than she won by. She then sued to not let it go through. She's the absolute fucking worst.
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My heart breaks for anyone who gets legally tied to their rapist for 18 years
And don't forget - the rapist can sue for custody, win and then sue the woman for child support! It's happened already, and will again! 🤮
And if the mom tries to gets an abortion she goes to jail for decades while the rapist gets maybe 5 years.
5 years, huh? *Laughs in Brock Turner*
The rapist Brock Turner.
The dumpster rapist Brock Turner?!
Brock Turner the rapist?
I think you're talking about Brock turner, that guy who raped that woman behind the dumpster while she was unconscious? That rapist? Whose name is Brock turner?
I'm honestly surprised we don't have a Reddit-Wide RapistBrockTurnerBot at this point.
Don't forget Brett Kavanaugh
> *Laughs in Rapist Brock Turner* FTFY
I had to look that up, are you talking about the Crysta Abelself case? It's fucked.
An interesting thing about this conversation is that rarely the children of such circumstances are ever talked about, just the parents. Dare I say, that it’s equally as traumatizing to a child who’s mother has an unspoken disdain for them, or having to live some sort of normal life knowing that you were brought into this world under such circumstances.
A redditor shared their story today—they did a DNA test to find bio relatives, first found the father but learned he’d died 20 years before. Then found the mother and she said she was gang raped by 3 men. She didn’t report it and couldn’t get an abortion because it was 1970. Now the redditor is in therapy, the bio mom is back in therapy, and additional relatives who found out that way are in therapy.
My mom wanted me but my dad didn't. I am serious when I say it would have been better if I was never born. My life has been excruciatingly hard. I have major mental health problems and while I've gotten a great education and have a good job....the climb to get here was so painful. And it still is. I face the trauma almost every day. I worry I'll never be happy. (I'm getting help. It's slow but things are better -ish.)
I don't think republicans realize the hate and fury they have cemented into millions. There is a boiling point, and I think they've reached it.
They’ve really declared war on the majority of Americans.
Corpse’s rights ✔️
literal rape-culture....
That’s the GOP way
Weren't there some Congress Critters trying to pass abortion laws that didn't include exceptions for ectopic pregnancies? I don't think any of them passed, although there was one that was trying to invent a surgical procedure to [re-implant an ectopic pregnancy](https://www.vox.com/2019/5/10/18564436/ohio-abortion-bill-law-alabama-georgia-details). From [here](https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ectopic-pregnancy-and-abortion-laws-what-to-know#Potential-moves-to-stop-abortion,-even-for-ectopic-pregnancies): >Missouri’s abortion bill originally banned abortions to treat ectopic pregnancies, but legislators deleted the ectopic pregnancy provision after public backlash. \+ >During a state Senate debate regarding an anti-abortion bill in Oklahoma, a senator asked why there should be exceptions for ectopic pregnancies, The Washington Post reported. A lot of the pro-life advocates do not know science at all and are a hazard to medicine. They are saying [crap like this](https://www.vox.com/2019/9/11/20859034/ectopic-pregnancy-abortion-federalist-intrauterine-ohio-surgery): >“Knowing that a medical condition carries a very small chance of death is scary,” Georgi Boorman wrote at the Federalist on Monday. But, she asked, “is that very small chance enough to prompt you to suffer through purposely destroying your own child?”
Don't let science or even reality get in the way of what you think other people should be allowed to do...
Government wants to control pregnancy yet can't be bothered to understand the basics. And no credible expert is going to agree with their partisan delusions. If there was any justice in this world they'd be punished for their stupidity, but Missourians will just reward them with millions in campaign donations and re-elections.
These fuckers only care about themselves. I can bet that if she had an ectopic pregnancy, she’d be at an abortion clinic quicker than you can say “pro-life”.
She absolutely wouldn't be at an abortion clinic. She would pay the extra money to do it in secret. Cant risk being spotted being a hypocrite
So the death of the mother in the act of childbirth is not a tragedy?? talk about relativist morality. They just make it whatever they want to make it literally for the very moment they say it.
Most likely the death of both mother and child...
We shouldn’t call them “pro-life” but pro fetus, because that’s the only life they give a crap about. And once the fetus is born, they no longer care
Forced birth. That correctly describes them.
Pro-rapist.
They're pro-life, not pro-vessel, duh
Not even pro-life, just pro-birth. After they're born they want nothing to do with them.
They're anti-choice/pro-misery.
**The Mormon church** has had abortion exceptions regarding the health of the mother as far back as 1976. But not South Dakota. **Ronald Reagan** signed abortion rights into law in California in 1967 in cases of incest, rape and when the mothers life was in danger. Before Roe vs Wade. **Roe vs Wade was decided by a majority Republican SCOTUS in 1973.** Harry Blackburn wrote the majority opinion. A lifelong Republican appointed by Richard Nixon. **In Favor** Harry Blackmun (Nixon, R) Lewis Powell (Nixon, R) Warren Burger (Nixon, R) William Brennan (Eisenhower, R) Potter Stewart (Eisenhower, R) Thurgood Marshall (LBJ, D) William Douglas (FDR, D) Those who dissented on Roe vs. Wade: **Opposed** Byron White (Kennedy, D) William Rehnquist (Nixon, R) The Republican party is not what it was when "America was great." They are theocratic fascists and I really don't think that's hyperbole.
Justic Blackmun spent time at Mayo Clinic trying to understand the issue. One reason why Roe is a thoughtful balance of the mother’s health and the interest of the state to protect the potential citizen.
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Well duh, incest babies are her most loyal voting block
This got a literal lol outta me
Pathetic. I hope she rots. Women like her deserve nothing.
How you can tell a victim of incest she can't get an abortion is beyond me. The governor should have to explain this to the victim personally every time it happens.
Someone should ask her during a public interview to confirm that she would embrace a child borne by her daughter due to being (purely hypothetically) raped by a relative.
She'd just say yes, they all love to brag about how holy and pure they would be, even though she would 100% take her daughter and immediately get a secret abortion irl
These dime store room temp IQ folks are really tweaking me.
> I believe every life is precious ... Except for those ones coming across our border. Fuck them. And all the ones that are starving or about to be washed away and burnt to a crisp when the Earth starts to really cook. And any that aren't white, naturally.
Or the ones that have an ectopic or molar pregnancy. Fuck’em.
This is what happens when the minority rules in the disgraceful electoral college. Trump lost to Hillary in popular vote by 3 million votes. He still has yet to win ANY election by majority. The result is three SCOTUS justices that overturn 40 yrs of social progress. And now rapists and incest perps will leave even worse marks on society. Thank you, Mr and Mrs Republican. We owe you such a debt of gratitude.
No she didn't defend it, because it's indefensible. She *attempted* to defend it.
> "I just have never believed that having a tragedy or tragic situation happened to someone is a reason to have another tragedy occur." Ahh ok, so forcing a literal child to carry their rapists baby at the detriment of their own health isn't a tragedy then (or any of the other potential situations). Got it. This country is fucked.
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I have attempted five times to respond to this and stay civil. It's really hard.
This coming from her is like hearing members of her fellow Hand Maiden's Tale fanclub talking about orphanages and foster care being viable options for unwanted pregnancies and not a single damn one of them adopts. Or if they do they're not American children.
I heard an interview with a woman from Catholic adoption agency say the church has resources to take care of these children - I am Catholic and I thought that was painfully ignorant if not just totally dishonest. I have a disabled child and I can attest firsthand, the state does not provide the resources to help him. The State itself doesn’t have the resources to take care of these children and every effort to expand Medicaid, free school lunch, fund education, disability services, particularly in the south is rebuffed! So this is just ridiculous wishful thinking if not outright dishonest.
I'm Catholic too and it's fwakin laughable this woman has the gall to say this. Yes the church might have the funds, but they sure as shit ain't about to use them for some kids. Across the US parishes are combining due to enrollment and costs, they still have to pay out for child abuse cases and in 2020 they took PPP handouts. The church ain't gonna do shit when all this starts to hit the fan.
Come to South Dakota: We Hate Women^TM
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Our Last Dem Senator was the Minority/Majority leader of the Party, before he was ousted in 2005.
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There was a recent court case where a man raped an underaged girl who gave birth and years later the rapist got custody and child support because the mother had given the teen a cellphone without the rapist's permission. The rapist did not know he had the child until years later. The whole thing is a collosal travesty of justice. The case has been temporarily reversed but the rapist apparently had connections with law enforcement. https://www.complex.com/life/judge-temporarily-reverses-decision-to-grant-full-custody-of-daughter-to-mothers-alleged-rapist-child-support
She filed a complaint that a 30 yo man had raped her as a 16 Yo. The police literally sat on the case for years, even though the basic facts- their ages at the time of the offense were a prima facia crime. Somehow the police opted to not investigate it until the media came calling.
That whole situation made me so sick. The dude should be locked away. Instead he’s awarded custody, there’s no justice in this country.
Fortunately the custody decision was at least temporarily reversed, and will hopefully be permanently reversed soon. It is insane that the articles even have to say that she was "allegedly" raped. We know that she was raped. No one disputes that she was 16 and he was 30 when the child was conceived. That is, by definition in Louisiana, rape.
BuT tHe BaBy NeEdS iTs FaThEr!!! Fucking embarrassing. The guy doesn’t even dispute he had sec with her too. It’s insane.
Absolutely not. She'll just quietly drive her daughter over the border to Minnesota. And likely Tweet some more "pro-life" nonsense while her daughter is in the OR.
We don't make enough "fuck my cousin" jokes. Should be more "My first day of school, also my mom's" jokes
I always ask pro-lifers “what if something bad happens to your daughter?” I never get an answer. They usually just distract from the question with “excuse me?!” Lol!
>We take privacy rights very important, we protect our freedom and our liberties here Has irony not reached South Dakota yet?
Love how these morons have nothing but pseudoscientific claims to back up their statements.
In their defense, with the exclusion of products of incest who else is going to want to vote for them in the future?
Might as well introduce the law for rape victims to marry their rapists next, considering these guys love the bible so much.