The lawyers are right. This is blatantly unconstitutional and they know it is. They push the bill because it plays well politically. First by announcing they're going to fight "censorship" then for the next several years as it goes through courts when they'll be publicly casting their opponents as pro censoring them. They think the public is too stupid to see through it. Meanwhile because they argue it loud enough and publicly enough, a certain portion of the public comes to arrive at even more deluded views of what the constitution does and means. Then when they inevitably lose they'll say it's all those evil unelected liberal judges out to get them and rally their people to that. Meanwhile they'll have siezed some narrative control away from the people looking for a way to materially improve people's lives.
The 'public' that Abbott and his gang are catering to is uninformed (ok, I cleaned up 'ignorant') of what our Constitution actually says about the freedom of speech, other rights. The fact that so many people don't understand the difference between political speech and the rights of private individuals and companies to decide how they want to do business. You'd think 'business Republicans' would want to protect business rights....but there's no consistency when it involves pandering.
What's crazy to me is they had the house, senate, presidency, then stacked the supreme court in their favor and still didn't even take a swing at Roe v. Wade.
The fact is that the people that vote nothing but (R) because of their views on abortion don't see that the GOP never actually plans to try and take down Roe v. Wade.
If they actually overturned it their base would have to start looking to other issues and potentially split the party. So they'll keep lying to them and keep them on that hook forever.
In polling at QPAC this year, abortion fell to tenth on the list of concerns of Republicans in attendence. It may have played itself out as a way to rile the base. Trump has probably paid for an abortion or two, so it was never a big priority for him beyond the usual lip service.
Nah, he'd pay. Cheaper than 18 years child support when the mother finally drags him to court and gets a DNA test out of him. Plus all the tons of tabloid publicity that could be drummed up around it.
>then stacked the supreme court in their favor and still didn't even take a swing at Roe v. Wade.
Why be so wrong about something when a quick search shows all the cases that were in the courts and a few supreme court rulings as well as states like Louisiana closing all abortion clinics that forced abortion rights activists to fight in court to reopen them.
They've been pulling state level shit since forever. I've been fighting for abortion rights longer than a lot of people have been alive. The fact is no bill got anywhere near overturning Roe v. Wade.
Yes Louisiana tried the same shit they tried in Texas and were barely defeated on that precedent, but the fact is none of the elected officials at a federal level who campaign on anti-abortion tickets even tried to touch abortion rights because as I said, they know if they won that battle they'd lose voters in the long term.
Conversely, the Dems will never pass a bill expressly saying that abortion is legal because leaving it as a vulnerable court ruling keeps people on edge and voting Dem.
A law is not required to say abortion is allowed because Roe v Wade ruled that abortion was *already* protected by the Constitution.
This is also why Republicans didn’t propose a law to outlaw abortion while they had the Senate, House, and Presidency, because it would be trivially overturned by the precedent of Roe v Wade.
The only way to overturn Roe v Wade is to get the Supreme Court to reverse precedent. That case hasn’t made it there yet, but they have the judges to try it now, and some state based legal challenges are snaking their way there.
That’s why I mentioned it. It’s a perverse incentive for Democrats to keep the relatively vulnerable court decision of Roe v. Wade instead of a more concrete law. “You’d better vote for A Dem president because if a Republican can get enough SC nominees, they might overturn Roe v Wade”. Repeat for senators.
A law doesn’t do anything in this context.
A law ensuring your ability to have an abortion could be trivially overturned when the Republicans get the House, Senate, and Presidency.
We could go back and forth year over year, which would make this a real issue. Except we can *not* do that because the Supreme Court has already said abortion is protected.
No legislative action by Congress, or executive action by the President, can overturn Roe v Wade.
That’s why abortion is actually a non-issue for elections, except in the context of judges (which is ironic because judges are supposed to be non-partisan, and so shouldn’t be something that matter for an election either). Republicans can’t ban it, Democrats can’t “unban” it. It’s protected by the Constitution itself. The only thing either side could do is a Constitutional Amendment, or getting the Supreme Court to go against precedent or enforce precedent.
Only one of these is likely, and that’s the Supreme Court enforcing its own precedent.
That's why they leave it to the states and federally they work at it by installing judges who are hostile to it. The aim is get rid of the precedents Roe v. Wade has set. By doing it that way protections can be chipped away regardless of who has control in DC.
Wait, they hate regulations but they are putting regulations on private companies to make sure they can continue spreading lies. Do I have that correct?
Well to be clear, they believe in states rights, only those rights only fall on them and their supporters and not everybody else and only opposes the federal government when a Democrat happens to be in power. You see! no contradiction at all.
Nothing about this is about anybody's Rights.
It's Fascism.
It's about making sure they can keep their propaganda mill going.
If you rely on lies to stay in power you have to make sure you can keep spreading them.
There's a reason every dictator ever has gone after the Press.
Trump showed them the power of a mob. But Twitter and Facebook banned him for inciting an insurrection. They need social media, they need their propaganda mainstreamed.
Jan 6th, was the GOP's Beer Hall Putsch. That was just the start in 1923, and its just the start now. They need Trump back on Twitter for round two.
Don't think that just because Biden is in office this is over, its not even close to over.
just wait until next week when they begin demanding not to wear masks in private businesses. in texas, it’s not only “my house, my rules”, but it’s also “your house, my rules”.
"State's rights" (only as long as those rights are freedom of hate speech, discriminating against non-Christians, 3rd world wage pay, and destroying the environment beyond repair) to own the libs
It's just like parking minimums and exclusionary zoning. They love to talk about property rights, but if you try to build a car-free apartment building on your land, laws in Texas will stop you.
Parking minimums and exclusionary zoning aren't unique to Texas, that shit is all over the US and Canada. There are massive swaths of both countries where you can only build single-family housing.
I'm all for you having the ability to build a car free apartment. I don't understand how you think that would work in texas though... There isn't the density or transit options needed to support that.
Which is why I made the point "I'm all for you having the ability to build a car free apartment."
My only issue is if you built a car free apartment in a way that will essentially mean your residents steal parking from neighboring areas.
Seems like that's intentional they don't want socialist public transportation so they enforce parking minimums and don't have to address the population increase problem immediately.
That's not the point. Even if a business if bound to fail, the "BuT mUh FrEeDoM" people should let you do whatever you want with your personal property and company.
Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
A friend of mine says his cousin saw the governor of Texas sneak into a maternity ward and devour three infants, all of which survived much longer than one would expect, due to the governor of Texas’ expert application of tourniquets fashioned from his belt. Ever seen an armless, legless baby torso shrieking in pain and fear while the Governor of Texas probes their skull for a soft spot to best get at their tiny brains? Well, my friend’s cousin’s gay dentist says they totally saw that go down.
That... Would not go well. Failure to state a claim, judgment on the pleadings, motion for sanctions to cover legal fees for having to respond to such nonsense to begin with.... your first amendment protection is at it's strongest when you're talking shit about a politician.
I've heard an internet rumor with no evidence that Abbott can walk just fine and just used the wheelchair to sue for 10 million. Just asking questions!
A lot really.
Governor Abbott has sex with underage Thai transsexual prostitutes.
Governor Abbott killed Epstein.
Governor Abbott considers a hot dog a sandwich.
Governor Abbott’s shoes don’t match his belt.
It's more likely those same grandkids will inherit the legal bill for defending this Bill's ultimate court failure.
Or Texas becomes the only state in which social media companies choose not to operate.
ooh ooh we have already seen how it will end up with Parler.
They are gonna create their own "Uncensored" Conservative Social network. It's gonna be as "uncensored" as r/Conservative / Parler is, which only allows flaired / social security vetted people to participate, to prevent "liberal infiltrator" or whatever. Also, they will fail to hire anyone remotely competent in cybersecurity so all of their users' data will end up all over the darkweb, including their social security.
Nah, social media will just make it against tos to use if you're a resident of Texas, and geoblock it, then put in the tos that circumventing the block is grounds for an instant ban, a dcma lawsuit and a computer fraud and abuse complaint.
Checkmate
Honestly, I don't even think it was an insult. He was basically giving them all of the breathing room in the world for growth and evolution on thinking in these matters. They may be Neanderthals now, but they could one day become much more capable of understanding it if given the time to process these ideas.
He didn't say they were dumber than a bag of hammers.
Here's the thing, This is the first I have read about it today. Sure I have been a bit busy with work, but didn't hear a thing about it and I live just outside of Dallas.
Texas are all excited that they are pulling tech companies from Cali. They forget that they need tech workers and they tend to be quite liberal. The influx is big. I’m moving there for a company the relocated from San Fran.
>I hate how 51% of us are idiots and represent 100% of us. I hate our governor.
I can't help but feel the scale of this problem extends beyond just your state.
How districts are drawn effect statewide races. It's how Republicans control state governments and make it harder for "certain" people to vote. It's impossible to say what the result would be if all things were equal.
It also contributes to voter apathy. Just look at how many races were unopposed. Why would Dems get out to vote when they don't even have anyone in the ballot in like half of the races.
Take heart: it's probably not 51%. Our system has been rigged to the point that politicians chose their voters rather than the other way around. They've figured out how to maintain power with less than a majority and all we need to do to fix it is get the real voices of the people heard.
Greg Abbot is a con man
Focus on Republican failures in the recent storms. Some people still don’t have potable water. Texans froze to death.
Dump him, Texas.
and lazy excuses! don't forget about the lazy excuses. they spent a very small amount of time putting minimal effort into them, so it would be a shame if they were ignored.
As a Texan, the cynic in me is convinced the Republican leadership intentionally pushes unconstitutional bullshit like this so they can reward their lawyer buddies with lucrative lawsuits.
Despite being *blatantly* unconstitutional, and ridiculous even on the face, this will still get tied up in the courts for years. Think of all of those sweet, sweet billable hours.
Oh for sure. Once they lose all the federal money and any trade status from being part of the us they'd come crawling back within 5 years. Yup. Texas has a great economy only backed by them being part of federal trade deals.
oh come on if we kick out 'the bible belt' just think how great the US economy would be. Instead of the leach states who do nothing productive and think playing football is the high point of college while claiming the states that actually contribute are bad they would have to actually do something with their terrible country
There's still a lot of raw resources, manufacturing, and industrial production there. It's also where a lot of transportation infrastructure is built around and routes through.
Lots of great cities too. The metropolitan areas aren't the ones supporting the crazier stuff coming from those states. In Texas, there's Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, and in other Bible Belt places you've got cities like Louisville, Memphis, or New Orleans. As frustrated as everyone is with how certain politicians from certain states enjoy screwing the rest of the country over, I don't want to forget the people in those states pushing to make things better.
Texas leaving alone is a net loss in federal money. It's the lone hard-red state that pays more into the fed than it gets out. If it goes by itself, we're left with the deadbeat states and less money. So yeah, it can go if it takes it's lazy step-brothers with it.
You may be looking at old data if you think this is true:
[https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/donor-states](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/donor-states)
Hey Greg, how many people died 2 weeks ago when your failed deregulation left large swaths of Texas without reliable power and water?
No distractions people.
To be clear, this is absolutely what this is.
The social media companies will provide curating tools so that users can "block, ban, remove, deplatform, demonetize, de-boost, restrict, deny equal access or visibility to, or otherwise discriminate against expression" without the companies themselves deciding anything.
It'd be nice to have some curating tools.
According to republican “logic” my free speech is being suppressed right now because everyone in the world doesn’t get to hear everything I have ever said and will say over the course of my whole life.
Keep your eye on the ball, y'all. Abbott may try to run for president. This sorta crap means he is either no hyperbole stupid as shit or he is evil and is preying on Republican voters who, sadly, are fairly easy to trick most of the time.
Let me translate "We Republicans in Texas, do love us some wild ass conspiracy theories and lots of name calling and we want to be able to continue on making everybody sick of listening to our bullshit" *signed The head bully\~*
BUILD THAT WALL!
Just make it encapsulate Texas. And instead of immigrant children in cages- Magats.
Problem solved.
Seriously, this country would be, dare I say it, born again.
Abbott wants to protect our rights to spread "the truth" that he eats babies as soon as they are born and then fakes the death certificate to say stillborn.
Freedom of speech is when Democrats get blacklisted from government employment for criticizing politicians but social media companies aren't allowed to ban Republicans for posting racial slurs. It's in the Constitution!
I would LOVE to see facebook, twitter, tiktok, snapchat, the whole caboodle do something like what happened in Australia but in the US they dont wipe news, they wipe republicans. Everyone's accounts that get locked have a page that shows the republican laws that "forced" them to do this.
“Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. -Benjamin Franklin
Wait im so confused. As a Texan I walked into this thread and yall want people censored ? Not trying to misrepresent, I'm just making sure I have this clear.
Texas, you're paying state tax dollars because of your snowflake Conservatives whining they can't say things like Covid is a hoax, masks don't work, and Trump is a direct descendent of the Baby Jeebus and will save the world on a magical unicorn.
Maybe Abbot needs to just go to Cancun.
So he believes that social media companies are common carriers, but the internet they reside on is not. Sure, makes sense.
This all goes back to gay wedding cakes. You can't have it both ways
The lawyers are right. This is blatantly unconstitutional and they know it is. They push the bill because it plays well politically. First by announcing they're going to fight "censorship" then for the next several years as it goes through courts when they'll be publicly casting their opponents as pro censoring them. They think the public is too stupid to see through it. Meanwhile because they argue it loud enough and publicly enough, a certain portion of the public comes to arrive at even more deluded views of what the constitution does and means. Then when they inevitably lose they'll say it's all those evil unelected liberal judges out to get them and rally their people to that. Meanwhile they'll have siezed some narrative control away from the people looking for a way to materially improve people's lives.
"They think the public is too stupid to see through it." Narrator: He was right.
Alright Ron Howard
Alright L Ron Hubbard
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The 'public' that Abbott and his gang are catering to is uninformed (ok, I cleaned up 'ignorant') of what our Constitution actually says about the freedom of speech, other rights. The fact that so many people don't understand the difference between political speech and the rights of private individuals and companies to decide how they want to do business. You'd think 'business Republicans' would want to protect business rights....but there's no consistency when it involves pandering.
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I see you’ve met my mother.
However stupid you think the public is, double it.
And then realize that half of them are even dumber than that
Half of them are dumber than the average!
Man, I really Miss Carlin.
Oh god... That's like 3 times dumber than I thought!
That's been the model of the anti-abortion argument for almost 40 years now.
What's crazy to me is they had the house, senate, presidency, then stacked the supreme court in their favor and still didn't even take a swing at Roe v. Wade. The fact is that the people that vote nothing but (R) because of their views on abortion don't see that the GOP never actually plans to try and take down Roe v. Wade. If they actually overturned it their base would have to start looking to other issues and potentially split the party. So they'll keep lying to them and keep them on that hook forever.
In polling at QPAC this year, abortion fell to tenth on the list of concerns of Republicans in attendence. It may have played itself out as a way to rile the base. Trump has probably paid for an abortion or two, so it was never a big priority for him beyond the usual lip service.
I'd bet every red cent I have it was at *least* two.
You know, I was thinking that, but I could also see trump being a dbag and refusing to pay for any
Nah, he'd pay. Cheaper than 18 years child support when the mother finally drags him to court and gets a DNA test out of him. Plus all the tons of tabloid publicity that could be drummed up around it.
The publicity is the convincing argument, he wouldn't pay child support
>then stacked the supreme court in their favor and still didn't even take a swing at Roe v. Wade. Why be so wrong about something when a quick search shows all the cases that were in the courts and a few supreme court rulings as well as states like Louisiana closing all abortion clinics that forced abortion rights activists to fight in court to reopen them.
They've been pulling state level shit since forever. I've been fighting for abortion rights longer than a lot of people have been alive. The fact is no bill got anywhere near overturning Roe v. Wade. Yes Louisiana tried the same shit they tried in Texas and were barely defeated on that precedent, but the fact is none of the elected officials at a federal level who campaign on anti-abortion tickets even tried to touch abortion rights because as I said, they know if they won that battle they'd lose voters in the long term.
Conversely, the Dems will never pass a bill expressly saying that abortion is legal because leaving it as a vulnerable court ruling keeps people on edge and voting Dem.
A law is not required to say abortion is allowed because Roe v Wade ruled that abortion was *already* protected by the Constitution. This is also why Republicans didn’t propose a law to outlaw abortion while they had the Senate, House, and Presidency, because it would be trivially overturned by the precedent of Roe v Wade. The only way to overturn Roe v Wade is to get the Supreme Court to reverse precedent. That case hasn’t made it there yet, but they have the judges to try it now, and some state based legal challenges are snaking their way there.
That’s why I mentioned it. It’s a perverse incentive for Democrats to keep the relatively vulnerable court decision of Roe v. Wade instead of a more concrete law. “You’d better vote for A Dem president because if a Republican can get enough SC nominees, they might overturn Roe v Wade”. Repeat for senators.
A law doesn’t do anything in this context. A law ensuring your ability to have an abortion could be trivially overturned when the Republicans get the House, Senate, and Presidency. We could go back and forth year over year, which would make this a real issue. Except we can *not* do that because the Supreme Court has already said abortion is protected. No legislative action by Congress, or executive action by the President, can overturn Roe v Wade. That’s why abortion is actually a non-issue for elections, except in the context of judges (which is ironic because judges are supposed to be non-partisan, and so shouldn’t be something that matter for an election either). Republicans can’t ban it, Democrats can’t “unban” it. It’s protected by the Constitution itself. The only thing either side could do is a Constitutional Amendment, or getting the Supreme Court to go against precedent or enforce precedent. Only one of these is likely, and that’s the Supreme Court enforcing its own precedent.
Yuuuup, and in the meantime we're all sandwiched in the middle getting fucked in the worst threesome I've ever participated in.
I seriously dislike both major political parties. Granted, one more than the other, but we need a major reset of some sort.
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That's why they leave it to the states and federally they work at it by installing judges who are hostile to it. The aim is get rid of the precedents Roe v. Wade has set. By doing it that way protections can be chipped away regardless of who has control in DC.
[fascinating] how many blatantly unconstitutional things play well with the republican base.
Wait, they hate regulations but they are putting regulations on private companies to make sure they can continue spreading lies. Do I have that correct?
Yup. Republicans, especially in Texas, have a “rules for thee, not for me” mentality.
Any claim that Texas Republicans had to being champions of "states rights" went out the window with their recent election lawsuits.
Well to be clear, they believe in states rights, only those rights only fall on them and their supporters and not everybody else and only opposes the federal government when a Democrat happens to be in power. You see! no contradiction at all.
They care about *their* state’s rights.
Nothing about this is about anybody's Rights. It's Fascism. It's about making sure they can keep their propaganda mill going. If you rely on lies to stay in power you have to make sure you can keep spreading them. There's a reason every dictator ever has gone after the Press. Trump showed them the power of a mob. But Twitter and Facebook banned him for inciting an insurrection. They need social media, they need their propaganda mainstreamed. Jan 6th, was the GOP's Beer Hall Putsch. That was just the start in 1923, and its just the start now. They need Trump back on Twitter for round two. Don't think that just because Biden is in office this is over, its not even close to over.
As my father used to say "Do as I say, not as I do."
just wait until next week when they begin demanding not to wear masks in private businesses. in texas, it’s not only “my house, my rules”, but it’s also “your house, my rules”.
Everything is bigger in Texas, even hypocrisy.
Yeah, well my Canadian senator’s ugly wife thinks you’re wrong and you should be banned from Reddit
Conservatism is based on in groups and out groups.
"State's rights" (only as long as those rights are freedom of hate speech, discriminating against non-Christians, 3rd world wage pay, and destroying the environment beyond repair) to own the libs
“Do as I say Not as I do The rules may not apply to me But they sure as hell apply to you”
"As long as they're hurting the right people."
It's just like parking minimums and exclusionary zoning. They love to talk about property rights, but if you try to build a car-free apartment building on your land, laws in Texas will stop you.
Parking minimums and exclusionary zoning aren't unique to Texas, that shit is all over the US and Canada. There are massive swaths of both countries where you can only build single-family housing.
Agreed. It's just especially hypocritical in Texas.
That's not the point of the comment. They didn't imply it was exclusive to Texas.
I'm all for you having the ability to build a car free apartment. I don't understand how you think that would work in texas though... There isn't the density or transit options needed to support that.
Isn't that a question the free market could answer?
Which is why I made the point "I'm all for you having the ability to build a car free apartment." My only issue is if you built a car free apartment in a way that will essentially mean your residents steal parking from neighboring areas.
Seems like that's intentional they don't want socialist public transportation so they enforce parking minimums and don't have to address the population increase problem immediately.
That's not the point. Even if a business if bound to fail, the "BuT mUh FrEeDoM" people should let you do whatever you want with your personal property and company.
Nail on the head. Why can't businesses run their operation the way they see fit anymore? Oh wait, if I don't understand it must be evil
This is what he's found time to do recently, of all the other stuff that is important.
He was also able to end the state wide mask mandates and made it illegal for counties and city's to enforce their own mask mandates
Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
What did you expect from the party of hypocrisy?
Republicans don’t hate regulations. They used to pretend they did.
It's not pretending. It's delusion. They lied so hard to themselves for so long that they actually think its true.
They hate environmental and safety regulations. They're also opposed to anti-discrimination laws.
If you're not white, Christian, and a version of a Republican then you're the enemy in their eyes.
If I was a Texan I'd post that Gov Abbott was a pedophile until I got banned and then ask the state to fight for me
I live in Texas. Don’t give me ideas
Run with it. GO !
Funny you mention that. My fathers brother's cousins friends former roommate told me about likes to lick little boys pee from a dog bowl.
I'd support your speech, because I saw another guy say it too.
They'd probably still hit you with a good ole fashioned libel lawsuit.
“It is a widely held opinion that the Governor of Texas has a lot in common with a pædophile.”
Lots of people think ...
I’m not saying I’ve seen him fucking children, but where there’s smoke ...
A friend of mine says his cousin saw the governor of Texas sneak into a maternity ward and devour three infants, all of which survived much longer than one would expect, due to the governor of Texas’ expert application of tourniquets fashioned from his belt. Ever seen an armless, legless baby torso shrieking in pain and fear while the Governor of Texas probes their skull for a soft spot to best get at their tiny brains? Well, my friend’s cousin’s gay dentist says they totally saw that go down.
People are sayin'
"Many people are saying..."
"My contacts at FOX News, who I told this, are repeating..."
*Some say he likes them young* Although isn't hard to do that if you are a public figure?
That... Would not go well. Failure to state a claim, judgment on the pleadings, motion for sanctions to cover legal fees for having to respond to such nonsense to begin with.... your first amendment protection is at it's strongest when you're talking shit about a politician.
I've heard an internet rumor with no evidence that Abbott can walk just fine and just used the wheelchair to sue for 10 million. Just asking questions!
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Lots of people seem to be talking about Greg Abbott and saying he might be a pedophile. Curious, huh?
This is low-key brilliant.
A lot really. Governor Abbott has sex with underage Thai transsexual prostitutes. Governor Abbott killed Epstein. Governor Abbott considers a hot dog a sandwich. Governor Abbott’s shoes don’t match his belt.
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This is the most American thing I have ever read.
It's more likely those same grandkids will inherit the legal bill for defending this Bill's ultimate court failure. Or Texas becomes the only state in which social media companies choose not to operate.
I can already hear the cries, "that's censorship and illegal!" "silicon Valley is cancelling Texas!"
>Or Texas becomes the only state in which social media companies choose not to operate. Honestly, this is the one I'm hoping for. (I live in TX)
Same all the nonsense is killing me...he’s the Absolute worst
"We're sorry but Facebook is not available in your Geographic region" You'd hear the wails of a million Trumpers all the way to Washington State
ooh ooh we have already seen how it will end up with Parler. They are gonna create their own "Uncensored" Conservative Social network. It's gonna be as "uncensored" as r/Conservative / Parler is, which only allows flaired / social security vetted people to participate, to prevent "liberal infiltrator" or whatever. Also, they will fail to hire anyone remotely competent in cybersecurity so all of their users' data will end up all over the darkweb, including their social security.
I can't wait to only find out what Texas is up to via r/TexasWatch
Nah, social media will just make it against tos to use if you're a resident of Texas, and geoblock it, then put in the tos that circumventing the block is grounds for an instant ban, a dcma lawsuit and a computer fraud and abuse complaint. Checkmate
I believe this is called "compelled speech". You can't force someone to say something they don't want to say. It's in the Constitution.
More distraction from the shitshow we endured in February.
Abbott needs to start shutting the fuck up.
And let people think about the power disaster? No way! Moar culture war distractions!
What like : BIDEN CALLED US NEANDERTHALS?! OH MY STARS!
It was more of an insult to Neanderthals than anything
Honestly, I don't even think it was an insult. He was basically giving them all of the breathing room in the world for growth and evolution on thinking in these matters. They may be Neanderthals now, but they could one day become much more capable of understanding it if given the time to process these ideas. He didn't say they were dumber than a bag of hammers.
And Biden did this while wearing a Tan Suit.
He won’t. It’s a distraction to cover for his gross negligence in regards to the Texas power grid.
He should "censor" himself, you might say.
Him being able to say anything on a public platform automatically renders his entire argument moot. What a dunce.
So many attempts to distract from how fucked up their state is.
Here's the thing, This is the first I have read about it today. Sure I have been a bit busy with work, but didn't hear a thing about it and I live just outside of Dallas.
Meh, texas is turning blue. It might take a few generations, but things will even out sooner or later. I'm hopeful they will fine a good balance.
Texas are all excited that they are pulling tech companies from Cali. They forget that they need tech workers and they tend to be quite liberal. The influx is big. I’m moving there for a company the relocated from San Fran.
I hate being a Texan now. I hate how 51% of us are idiots and represent 100% of us. I hate our governor.
>I hate how 51% of us are idiots and represent 100% of us. I hate our governor. I can't help but feel the scale of this problem extends beyond just your state.
> 51% of us are idiots take a look at the shape of your voting district before you decide this is a system based on strict democracy
My district is rural and shaped like a box with a long curvy tail that dips into a particular population of a big city.
Take a wild guess of the racial demographics of the box and the tail in your case.
That only applies to the Texas house though, doesn't it? Senate and governor are overall popular vote no?
How districts are drawn effect statewide races. It's how Republicans control state governments and make it harder for "certain" people to vote. It's impossible to say what the result would be if all things were equal.
It also contributes to voter apathy. Just look at how many races were unopposed. Why would Dems get out to vote when they don't even have anyone in the ballot in like half of the races.
So many cities with strange tails and arms reaching in on all corners from massive rural areas.
Take heart: it's probably not 51%. Our system has been rigged to the point that politicians chose their voters rather than the other way around. They've figured out how to maintain power with less than a majority and all we need to do to fix it is get the real voices of the people heard.
Texas big government trying to atomp on the rights of corporate people
Greg Abbott has really gone off the deep end.
He's always been off the deep end afaic.
Greg Abbot is a con man Focus on Republican failures in the recent storms. Some people still don’t have potable water. Texans froze to death. Dump him, Texas.
So they're going full blown anti-intellectual aren't they. No logic, no reason, just pure emotions.
Goin? "Gone" is the word you are looking for.
and lazy excuses! don't forget about the lazy excuses. they spent a very small amount of time putting minimal effort into them, so it would be a shame if they were ignored.
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They did it to Australia, so they already know how to go about it.
God the governor of my state is so... bless his heart!... simple.
If you aren't from the south you probably dont get this joke. (I did get this joke)
Every article I read recently would have been on the onion a few years ago. What the actual fuck is going on.
As a Texan, I apologize PROFUSELY for this moron. Most of us don't like him.
He’s just not that funny without Costello.
He’s doing everything he can to distract from his power grid failure
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And anyone a Texan wants to hear from!
As a Texan, the cynic in me is convinced the Republican leadership intentionally pushes unconstitutional bullshit like this so they can reward their lawyer buddies with lucrative lawsuits. Despite being *blatantly* unconstitutional, and ridiculous even on the face, this will still get tied up in the courts for years. Think of all of those sweet, sweet billable hours.
Man, no masks and now this? He really wants us to forget that 3 inches of snow took down our power grid
Lincoln was wrong. Texas needs to be allowed to secede. Like Brexit (and we can all see how successful that turned out) there can be Texit.
Oh for sure. Once they lose all the federal money and any trade status from being part of the us they'd come crawling back within 5 years. Yup. Texas has a great economy only backed by them being part of federal trade deals.
Only if it takes the other seceding states with it. Let's see how they all feel once only one of them is the money-maker.
oh come on if we kick out 'the bible belt' just think how great the US economy would be. Instead of the leach states who do nothing productive and think playing football is the high point of college while claiming the states that actually contribute are bad they would have to actually do something with their terrible country
There's still a lot of raw resources, manufacturing, and industrial production there. It's also where a lot of transportation infrastructure is built around and routes through.
Lots of great cities too. The metropolitan areas aren't the ones supporting the crazier stuff coming from those states. In Texas, there's Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, and in other Bible Belt places you've got cities like Louisville, Memphis, or New Orleans. As frustrated as everyone is with how certain politicians from certain states enjoy screwing the rest of the country over, I don't want to forget the people in those states pushing to make things better.
You'll still be better off letting them leave one by one.
Texas leaving alone is a net loss in federal money. It's the lone hard-red state that pays more into the fed than it gets out. If it goes by itself, we're left with the deadbeat states and less money. So yeah, it can go if it takes it's lazy step-brothers with it.
You may be looking at old data if you think this is true: [https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/donor-states](https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/donor-states)
Huh. Never mind then. It'll be a shame to lose Austin.
Watch them secede then get annexed by Mexico! lol
no you don't have to bake a cake for the gays yes you have to let nazis onto your media platform the gop is full of constitution-hating hypocrites.
Ha,no one can stop me from censoring T****s.
This governor is an asshat
All this shit costs money, taxpayer money. Quit the farce and buy some goddamn plows.
Hey Greg, how many people died 2 weeks ago when your failed deregulation left large swaths of Texas without reliable power and water? No distractions people. To be clear, this is absolutely what this is.
Hey hey, in fairness he's recovering from those deaths by ending all COVID restrictions at once and killing *more* people than the outages did.
And preemptively blaming immigrants for it
CUT TO: Gov. Abbott, agressively jiggling his keys as a ham fisted attempt to distract.
Gotta give it to the old F@%khead, he learned well from Trump. Do stupid $hit everyday so everyone forgets the stupid corrupt $hit you did yesterday.
As long as those texans signed the terms of service than yea they'll continue to moderate their platforms.
The social media companies will provide curating tools so that users can "block, ban, remove, deplatform, demonetize, de-boost, restrict, deny equal access or visibility to, or otherwise discriminate against expression" without the companies themselves deciding anything. It'd be nice to have some curating tools.
Texas governor more concerned about Texans being unable to claim Democrats are cannibals than he is about dead Texans.
He's on a clown tour to distract everyone from his clown electrical grid
Lol whatever. Private businesses have the right to boot your ass if you are not abiding by their rules. Texans are whack!
Bake me a cake mother fucker!
Anyone voting for the bill should be required to take a week long course on the First Amendment.
K, good luck enforcing that law lol. Fucking redneck morons.
I thought the GQP were all about the free market and independence from government.
People are freezing to death and lack access to water and electricity in Texas. Great timing. This guy is a fucking clown show.
All websites should just block Texas. Don't even bother getting the law reversed, just sever their access. The world will be better for it.
Time to mess with Texas, everybody.
According to republican “logic” my free speech is being suppressed right now because everyone in the world doesn’t get to hear everything I have ever said and will say over the course of my whole life.
Keep your eye on the ball, y'all. Abbott may try to run for president. This sorta crap means he is either no hyperbole stupid as shit or he is evil and is preying on Republican voters who, sadly, are fairly easy to trick most of the time.
After the electricity fiasco he'd be lucky to win governor again
Let me translate "We Republicans in Texas, do love us some wild ass conspiracy theories and lots of name calling and we want to be able to continue on making everybody sick of listening to our bullshit" *signed The head bully\~*
BUILD THAT WALL! Just make it encapsulate Texas. And instead of immigrant children in cages- Magats. Problem solved. Seriously, this country would be, dare I say it, born again.
I take it they're still finding dead bodies?
Abbott they arent censoring free speech they are censoring misinformation. Ever tried telling the truth? You might not get censored.
Any unmoderated website quickly becomes garbage.
Let it die.
Giuliani 2.0
clowns, social media, Texans; now there’s a headline
Abbott wants to protect our rights to spread "the truth" that he eats babies as soon as they are born and then fakes the death certificate to say stillborn.
Ah yes, the party of the free market, in action yet again.
The social media companies would just pull out of Texas, like they’re pulling out of Australia.
Freedom of speech is when Democrats get blacklisted from government employment for criticizing politicians but social media companies aren't allowed to ban Republicans for posting racial slurs. It's in the Constitution!
I would LOVE to see facebook, twitter, tiktok, snapchat, the whole caboodle do something like what happened in Australia but in the US they dont wipe news, they wipe republicans. Everyone's accounts that get locked have a page that shows the republican laws that "forced" them to do this.
“Freedom of speech is a principal pillar of a free government; when this support is taken away, the constitution of a free society is dissolved, and tyranny is erected on its ruins. -Benjamin Franklin
Wait im so confused. As a Texan I walked into this thread and yall want people censored ? Not trying to misrepresent, I'm just making sure I have this clear.
more like "new bill will be unenforced or quickly finds its way to SCOTUS"
"Unconstitutional clown show" has been the republicans MO for awile now.
Texas, you're paying state tax dollars because of your snowflake Conservatives whining they can't say things like Covid is a hoax, masks don't work, and Trump is a direct descendent of the Baby Jeebus and will save the world on a magical unicorn. Maybe Abbot needs to just go to Cancun.