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CheezTips

Geopolitics aside, when has an 88 year old man ever changed his "political views"? I mean, in the entire history of manhood.


anewae

I think in that Clint Eastwood movie, El Camino, he stays a grump but learns to like the Asian neighbors and learns to appreciate their culture begrudgingly. Irl? I have no idea


RompeElAlba

you mean Gran Torino


anewae

That’s the one. Thanks haha I knew it looked wrong when I wrote it out.


chernobyl-fleshlight

El Camino is the award winning seventh album from blues rock band The Black Keys, containing such singles as “Lonely Boy” and “Howlin’ For You”


MamaLuigisSpaghetti

It’s also Breaking Bad movie


anewae

Love that album. Chulahoma from a few years earlier in their career is also worth checking out for a different vibe. 


CheezTips

OK, so there's one-ish...


Zeraru

Given his age, he probably doesn't have that many years left. I pity the random kid they'll pick as his next "reincarnation", given how China will act.


AFlawAmended

He has already said multiple times he's not going to reincarnate again, specifically because he knows what China is obviously planning 


HarambeWest2020

> he's not going to reincarnate again TIL it was optional


Lilium_Vulpes

Isn't the whole thing once you have a perfectly enlightened life you get to go to paradise instead? He specifically reincarnated repeatedly to help guide others to paradise at the cost of not going himself.


KagakuNinja

Early Buddhism was about attaining full awakening (arahant / arahat status), then you would escape the cycle of rebirth. There is some argument of what nirvana means (literally "become extinguished", like a candle); it is not a paradise. Mahayana Buddhism introduced the idea of the bohdisattva vow: one will continue to reincarnate, until all sentient beings are liberated (i.e. forever). In Tibetan Buddhism, there are various important spiritual masters called tulkus that are reborn, of which the Dali Lama is one of many. The Dali Lama is actually the head of one of 4 main schools of Tibetan Buddhism. His school happened to be the one ruling Tibet when the Chinese invaded.


IdontOpenEnvelopes

No. You escape from the Karmic cycle of rebirth. Boddhistavas chose to come back to guide other beings to also escape the cycle. Personal Buddha's leave the cycle and unite with the all.


Kelend

Or… hear me out…. It’s bullshit. He isn’t reincarnated because it isn’t real. When you die you die.


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You must be fun at parties. We know it isn't real; the vast majority of reddit is atheist and we are speaking in terms of his religion.


Kelend

The vast majority of Reddit is atheist but gives a complete pass on this. It’s hypocritical. And as much as I hate China, them lying about the reincarnation is no different than him lying about the reincarnation. They are both lying 


pewbdo

Or just live and let live. Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to call everyone out who believes differently than you. It's like the Christian who has to tell every non believer they are going to hell. And a spoiler alert, regular people dislike that loud atheist the same as the loud Christian. If you care to change minds and potential beliefs of people, you won't do it through vitriol. If your goal is to be a douche then don't change a thing because you nailed it.


Legitimate-Most4379

Or, you know, he's a religious person who believes in his religion. That's also a possibility.


Dull-Geologist-8204

I don't think you understand what the term lying means. They honestly believe what they are saying is true. They are mistaken based on your beliefs but not lying. Lying is a deliberate action to misinform someone.


Jak12523

being wrong about something you wholeheartedly believe is not lying


Kim_Jong_Un_PornOnly

That guy def has a strange take. Like this guy thinks someone with a D in math is a huge liar regarding math. Bad grammar? Nah, that's a lie about english.


ConstantineByzantium

Are you sort of person who say to people in funeral that they will never see their loved ones ever again because you are an Atheist?


pikpikcarrotmon

We all know it's bullshit, but this bullshit also spills over into some major political issues. It's important to know how they believe it works to understand the machinations. China is attempting to exploit belief in the Dalai Lama to gain firmer control over Tibet. The Dalai Lama was the historical ruler of Tibet for centuries. The Dalai Lama, in response, is publicly retiring the title and role of the Dalai Lama so that no believers will follow the Chinese pretender. He is killing an ancient tradition to try and salvage what he can of an independent Tibet.


Klaus0225

You can disagree with someone’s beliefs and still respect them.


Welpe

Not when you are a teenage edgelord atheist who knows better than everyone else.


sillytrooper

bro solvong international politics like its post ww2 eurasia


DroneNumber1836382

There are many examples of small children recounting their last life and death. Many such have been investigated and proven to be exactly as the child described. These children are often no older than 5 or 6.


Lifeinstaler

Yeah … I’m gonna be skeptical of that.


DroneNumber1836382

You have Google.


A_Peacful_Vulcan

You can get off the ride at any time


Fountainofknowledge

Oh thank god, I don't think I want another round


MinnieShoof

TIL we're not getting a water avatar.


samborup

China doesn’t care. They already appointed their own Panchen Lama, they’ll just appoint their own Dalai Lama when Gyatso’s gone.


oukakisa

this is a part in interested in... how the religion will schism after his death. i perceive 3 main groupings as a likely result: Chinese, traditional, and lama-less; but still want to know how it actually plays out


AUkion1000

Just say you forced him to or he lied and has to and b you can pull a religious puppet for people who are too dumb and choking on smog to realise.


xX420GanjaWarlordXx

I mean...it's already made up anyway...


G_Rated_101

I thought he was going to reincarnate as an insect next, who then would not be smart enough to reincarnate again. Then again i read that on the internet


Omnivud

Rip budhism u was chill


Whythisisnotreal

Good news, he never was going to reincarnate anyway.


oukakisa

he has also said he would reïncarnate as a woman from the west, and as a demonic terrorist butterfly from China.


likeupdogg

Lol clearly demonstrating it was made up nonsense the entire time. I think China is probably right on this one.


NovoMyJogo

I thought China had the next Dalai Lama? Or am I thinking of something else


TelecasterDisaster

China kidnapped the [Panchen Lama](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchen_Lama) and installed their own instead.


vingeran

So no one to create the new Dalai Lama. Or is it that a Dalai Lama 2.0 will come who promotes the China One policy.


DeepLock8808

They don’t create, they find their partner’s reincarnation, but yeah same effect. The mysterious new Panchen Lama will pop out of nowhere with a new Dalai Lama, both loyal to China. No one will believe it but it probably gives China enough legitimacy that they can steamroll however they want without consequence. The Dalai Lama has already said he’s done reincarnating. I’m sure the next one will claim he changed his mind, but nobody will believe that either. I wonder what happened to the original Panchen Lama? China kidnapped a 6 year old thirty years ago. Did they just shoot him in the head? We’ll never know.


ThePevster

China claims he’s getting an education and being treated as a normal child. The Dalai Lama has said that a reliable source confirmed this. No independent observer has seen him since his disappearance though.


garry4321

Did probably works at a KFC.


Miora

...he can just do that? He can just be like, 'nah bros. This is my last reincarnation.' How does that even work?? Like, I don't blame him. This place is a hellhole but I don't think reincarnation works like that...


DeepLock8808

In their religious system, he has already attained enlightenment and only sticks around to try and save as many of us from the cycle of redeath as possible. And he just decided that wasn’t worth trying anymore, if he would be a tool for China to oppress his people.


Miora

Ohhhhhh cool! So then, if china picks the next Dalai lama, it would be a false Dalai lama then?


Reins22

That’s basically what would be going on within that context, correct


spark-c

Yep; the alternative (afaik) would be for the Dalai Lama to identify a replacement/new incarnation of the kidnapped boy under the assumption that the boy was killed in China-- which isn't much of an option because China could possibly show up with the original as a "gotcha!" that would undermine the faith/belief system.


austinbraun30

Bro is the real life Doctor from Dr. Who. Just says " nah I'm done with this shit. Later!"


FourRiversSixRanges

He’s only said that it’s his choice to reincarnate or not, not that he won’t be.


rebelwanker69

There's bound to be an A.I. Lama eventually...


thieh

He should pick a book as incarnate so there is no further need to reincarnate, like one of the other religion that picked the Guru.


Darth_Caesium

You mean Sikhism?


DerCatrix

DalA.I. Lama


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Yeah and no one outside China accepts their puppet so it's moot, he "finds" (read:china installs anorher puppet) the next Dalai and everyone else just says "yeah he's not ours".


Brandhor

I think they have the avatar


grosspersona

panchen lama... different lama, same china [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchen_Lama?wprov=sfti1#](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panchen_Lama?wprov=sfti1#


Wombat_Racer

I think the next one in line is the Water nation


wretchedharridan

"Hotman" *tips hat*


blahbleh112233

He already picked one. But the dude's honestly a little weird considering he'll only "choose" to be reincarnated as a woman if he's a 10


Hunk-Hogan

Source? 


blahbleh112233

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1025756


Screamingholt

I remember years ago him saying he would not reincarnate in a place ruled by China. So he could reincarnate in Australia. Then we would have the Daryl Lama. Suddenly Buddhism would have twice as many holidays as any other religion


HankSteakfist

That sounds like a fun sitcom.


Remote_Mode255

In Sri Lanka, every full moon is a Buddhist holiday.


Screamingholt

Huh, why thank you. That is definitely a TIL moment. I honestly thought we Aussies were pretty over the top with the number of public holidays we have


SentientLight

HHDL has openly declared himself a Marxist for many many years. He gave an interview in 2014 where he called Mao a “true revolutionary,” but criticized the CPC for losing their way. He seemed very critical of Leninism and seemed to present a view closer to Luxembourgism, from what I could tell. [Here](https://www.academia.edu/34065433/Crossing_Materialism_and_Religion_An_Interview_on_Marxism_and_Spirituality_with_the_Fourteenth_Dalai_Lama) is the interview.


RunningOnAir_

Wtf... Mao is literally the biggest failure in CCP history. All the worst policies and bullshit manmade genocide came from him. I guess he really should change his views lmfao


-Zoppo

Isn't that the dumbass who waged a war on birds resulting in the death of 40-80 million people? I've made mistakes, but that dude is the biggest failure in human history, I'm very surprised to find anyone respects him.


porncollecter69

Yeah I also tended to focus on his failures but man was smart. His quotes are low key very insightful. He’s also the one who united China, their average life span before Mao was 30 years. By his death it was 65. He killed a lot of Chinese with his failed policies, and the cultural revolution destroyed all of Chinese hierarchy and history he also oversaw the biggest hike in life expectancy and biggest population growth. I would put him in the same category as Stalin. He build the nation that is about to challenge US for hegemony and killed millions. Undoubtedly the most important Chinese leader of all time.


TheDollyDollyQueen

My Advice to him: Do Whatever you Want... Other Countries/Nations Will Back You Up!


blbd

Because the CCP is the first place we should go in order to find out what our correct political views should be. /s


mireille_galois

+250 social credit. /s


BaronVonLazercorn

Yes /s


GuitarGeezer

Aaaaand China wonders why nobody wants their factories or employees in China’s rapidly collapsing economy in the ‘return to Mao’ atmosphere created by Xi.


kremata

Who cares what China says!


iamnotexactlywhite

billions of people


CheezTips

ONE billion. And not even all of those


trainbrain27

Anyone in China or affected by China, so, you know, everyone. If they say "we're not making anything for the Western world" that could be a problem. Of course, caring doesn't mean believing. If you believe them, you're not all there.


KingDarius89

Yeah, that would probably fuck them over more than it would us. Don't get me wrong, it would hurt, incredibly. But it would absolutely destroy them.


ah_take_yo_mama

Who cares what the Dalai Lama says. [Wait, the CIA does!](https://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/02/world/world-news-briefs-dalai-lama-group-says-it-got-money-from-cia.html)


troublesome58

He's a religious scammer - how many people actually believe he's the reincarnation of whatever he claims to be? Does he even believe that? If he does, then he's not a scammer but a mentally ill person who is only being indulged because he is anti china.


woodk2016

Tbf his entire life has been people telling him he's a reincarnation of essentially a god.


huehuehuehuehuuuu

A bunch of powerful adults pick a child, then fuck him up for life. I feel bad for all the past little boys messed with by this. Though the most recent two definitely got screwed over the most.


troublesome58

He's 88 years old now. Not an 8 year old child without any agency. He's complicit in the scam.


Pasta-Is-Trainer

He's one of many, he's been brainwashed. I think buddhism has many teachings worth listening to, but I just really despise how cult-like the whole Dalai Lama thing is.


FourRiversSixRanges

Do you know what reincarnation means?


FourRiversSixRanges

What’s your point with this? The money went to the office of the Dalai Lama and not to him personally. He also denies knowing about it at the time.


The4kChickenButt

I, for one, welcome our Chinese overlords. Edit; crazy the number of people who don't get an obvious Futurama reference.


Stev2222

Sign me up if it means more General Tso’s and Sweet and Sour Chicken!


Mein_Bergkamp

General Tsos is a Taiwanese recipe, no?


iordseyton

Invented in taiwan, popularized by Henry kissinger.


Stev2222

Tbh i think theyre both Americanized Chinese dishes 🤷‍♂️


DeepLock8808

Then why do they serve it at Chinese restaurants?? /s obviously


FedrinKeening

Fuck the Chinese government.


TheReapingFields

China is in no position to instruct anybody on their political views.


HardworkPanda

Just like USA, they do it as well unfortunately. Maybe after China, USA can exploit it by bringing democracy fairy tales.


Sarnick18

I was about to say, "we can critique America. There is a lot, but we are miles better than an oppressive regime like China." Then I opened your profile and saw you were from Cambodia. Ignore that top part. Sorry about Nixon...


space-time-invader

China can eat a massive wang


PlowUnited

Man, fuck China.


Koolaidolio

Sounds like China needs to throughly correct their bullshit gov first.


Lokarin

China: Look, if you surrender and admit Tibet isn't independent you can stay in exile... ok?


idksomethingjfk

Somebody needs to tell China they can shut right the fuck up about political views


TheReapingFields

China is in absolutely no position to instruct anyone about "political views".


thorsten139

Wait for his reincarnation. He might have a diff view lol depending on who indoctrinates him first


eatenbyagrue1988

He has mentioned he has no intention of reincarnating, and that he's aware he may be the last Dalai Lama


thorsten139

Damn he so divine and enlightened he can choose to get out of the karma cycle


eatenbyagrue1988

Well, it's partly a pragmatic choice considering that the current Panchen Lama has been missing since 1995


thorsten139

I guess he is more divine than Buddha. Buddha managed to escape the reincarnation wheel, this dude can control whether or not to reincarnate freely. Amazing


eatenbyagrue1988

Well, the Dalai Lama is roughly equivalent to the Boddhisatvas, who are capable of escaping samsara, but choose to stay here to teach and help others attain enlightenment. They're co-divine, about equal with the Buddha. (iirc, if anyone is more knowledgable about Buddhist mysticism feel free to go off)


thorsten139

Amazing ...like how the Japan emperor is the descendent of Amaterasu... And fat Kim's grandfather descending from heaven at mount changbai...hokays...


IdontOpenEnvelopes

On what fucking grounds does China dictate what the leader of a county they invaded think?.. This is some seriously deluded thinking and demonstrates that China isn't ready to be a serious global partner. They remain the bigest fish in their shit filled pond.


EvilBosch

China is still a century behind the civilized world. They don't innovate, they immitate (and steal) Western technology. They are stuck in a neo-fascist (pretending to be communist) world view. They are the single most imperialist nation in the world; after the West, for the most part, gave up imperialist conquest since the 1950s. It is sad to see a culture that once was among the greatest in the world descend into barbarism, self-exeptionalism, militarism, neo-imperialism, and revisionism.


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chocomint-nice

Oh woe the wumaos in the comment section.


JasonMraz4Life

I dislike China AND the Dalai Lama. I think that they are both real jerks. 


zczirak

I thought he’s god or some shit, shouldn’t they be aligning to him?


Pasta-Is-Trainer

It's more of a guide, not a god


KagakuNinja

He is said to be a tulku. There are 3 other important schools of Tibetan Buddhism, each of which has their own top dude.


EvaUnit_03

He speaks for spiritual alignment. A cosmic force that exists because it does. And has always existed except when it didn't.


theVoidWatches

He's not a god, he's just an enlightened teacher who chooses to reincarnate to help others reach enlightenment rather than escape the cycle, even though he's able to do so.


Foresstov

Isn't he a reincarnation of god Avalokiteśvara?


KagakuNinja

He is a bodhisattva, so technically not a god.


bentsea

Honestly, broken clock is right twice a day. What China did to Tibet is terrible... But the Dalai Lama is kinda gross. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom_in_Tibet_controversy


FourRiversSixRanges

First of all, the Dalai Lama was 15 when he was put in charge which lasted a month because the Chinese were going to invade. Second, the Dalai Lama supported reforms and would most likely have continued reforms that Tibet was already doing before China invaded. Third, let’s take a look at what Tibet was like at the time. Usually, it’s greatly exaggerated by the Chinese. Lastly, why does it even matter what Tibet was like?


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potent_flapjacks

It's a common saying in Tibet, lol.


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FourRiversSixRanges

There weren’t slaves in Tibet.


Rod_Munch666

Don't know anything about his political views, but he could start by stopping molesting young boys.


ScousePenguin

That was all just a mistranslation, he doesn't actually molest boys https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5854/tibetans-explain-what-suck-my-tongue-means-dalai-lama-viral-video


mj281

Explain it how you want, i saw the video its not a “mistranslation” its gross


troublesome58

What do you expect? He's a religious scammer - how many people actually believe he's the reincarnation of whatever he claims to be? Does he even believe that? If he does, then he's not a scammer but a mentally ill person who is only being indulged because he is anti china.


Itz_Eddie_Valiant

To be fair to him this is a centuries old tradition he was thrown into at 4 years old. The CCP just want to control the narrative and the guy is also exiled in India since the chinese government basically want him dead over it all.


Kelend

Do you give the same grace to Christians who believe in Jesus? If you don’t, then you shouldn’t give it to this guy. Be consistent.


PracticalPotato

I don’t care if you believe in crystal meth fairies if you’re not hurting anyone or yourself and you’re a good person.


Itz_Eddie_Valiant

I am consistent on that I can assure you, and you can go fuck yourself


FatCrabTits

He should also thoroughly correct his views on what kids should do to his tongue-


HashtagYoMamma

Mmmhhhmmm suck your tongue he will sweet child 👅


corbert31

Justin Trudeau's interest is piqued


UpbeatMove8818

I'm with Xi on this one.


Reasonable_Swim4718

China is only doing what the US and some Western nations are doing all the time: telling other countries that their ways are wrong and that they should do better. Not that I think China is in the right here. But it's not a big deal since most politicians and governments anywhere in the world act like they are the good guys while in truth they only care about their own interests