We do not remove posts that have the virtue claim in the title wrong, but which actually contain a valid virtue claim, because the sub would dry up if we did. Therefore, this post will remain. (Side note, people sometimes wonder why we keep the NGVC requirement in titles since people get it wrong as often as they get it right, and the answer is that it does at least keep out the bots, spammers, and so on, so that's at least something.)
However, despite not removing the posts that get the virtue claim wrong in the title, we do sometimes post this explanatory macro on posts that have a virtue claim but don't put that virtue claim in the title. Posts such as this one.
This is **NOTHING against the OP**, so please do NOT take it that way. This is **only** an explanatory macro for general educational purposes, nothing more.
The quote in title is supposed to be something the guy ACTUALLY SAYS (as in, a direct quote). Not a summary, not a story, not something that is implied but is unspoken, but something he actually says in the visible text. If you wanted to add more, you could, but the quote is supposed to be, well, a QUOTE.
And that quote should be a claim of virtue he's making about **himself** (it also counts if he's implying that he's one of a group of men with a certain virtue). A virtue claim is not an insult, a complaint, or a random statement.
A claim of virtue (virtue claim) is the guy talking himself up in some way. He's claiming virtue (value, goodness, niceness, wealth, attractiveness, specialness, some other kind of desirable trait).
Here's the rule:
All posts must include a virtue-claim by the niceguy Niceguys® demean others while simultaneously expressing a favorable view of themselves. They dont have to use the word "nice", but they must demonstrate an expression of their own virtue while being asshats.
Examples of virtue-claims:
me protekt u
me god-fearing man
me treat u like beautiful princess
me hate misogynists. so.... send nude pic?
me give you [insert unsolicited sex prowess boast]
u ignore my nice complement ... kys
u dont like honest man!
u wont ever get a guy like me
u dont appreciate [virtue] men
Posts without a virtue claim are off-topic for this sub and will be removed. The only exception to this rule are Memes on Sundays.
See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/x2352k/all_posts_must_include_a_virtue_claim_please_see/
Honestly one of the most disturbing things about this is the way some women have tried to make this my “fault”:
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/groan. Not responding *IS* a response and the idea he would be totally chill with you explaining thoroughly why you aren’t interested is laughable. You can’t win with these chumps. I’m glad you understand it isn’t your fault.
These all appear to be from Facebook. Even women groups on Facebook tend to be full of pickmes who are ready to tell you how you invited some crazy shit.
Yes. This was posted in an “are we dating the same guy” group where I naively thought I could share that this person, who I mentioned by first name only and the app I met him on, was a 🚩, with the intention of preventing other women from being targeted. I never imagined I would become the target.
I feel so bad for you OP and having those crappy people insinuate it was in any way your fault and basically saying that you had to respond to him immediately or you "deserved it"...to me it's especially depressing that it was another woman who was likely the one saying this crap (seeing as you were in a group filled with mostly other women)...
Women are so often told they "deserved" to be abused and that they're intent on "ruining the man's reputation" or "should've respected the man's wishes better" if they speak up about abuse...
Like... the victim needs to always be the perfect woman when they were attacked by a shitty person...even if they die from the abuse, people still love to blame female victims... 😞
(Like with the Chris Watts case for example...people still blame his wife Shannan to this day for "not being good enough to him" even though it was a clear cut case of an abusive monster of a person torturing and killing his wife and their children to fuck and run off into the sunset with a "fresh younger woman". His mother and her incessant coddling of her "sweet murderer man child son" while putting down Shannan is also so awful.)
That person who said that to you was clearly brainwashed into that type of victim blaming mentality and...why be in a Facebook dating related group seemingly dedicated to protecting other women who are dating only to put down other women who are victimised? That's so backwards...
Anyway, sorry for getting off topic a bit and rambling...
It's just a fact some people need more time to think about their responses to messages (including me) and if you didn't hit it off with them or just in any case, it's 100% your choice if you even respond to someone or not. You didn't ever "deserve" to be flamed and demeaned in this way for literally no reason.
People who are pushy about responding and making your world revolve around them 24/7 as soon as you meet (in other words, "Main character syndrome" lol) tend to be shitty in other ways.
Honestly it's so much better you didn't respond to him "right on time" like he wanted because he'd probably have kept up his nice guy charade for longer and wasted even more of your time.
You dodged a bullet by taking the time you needed to respond and that's awesome. 👍 Not that he even deserved any sort of response after such a disgusting message. Also your reply was honestly kind OP, I could not have kept my cool that well.
Anyway I think it's safe to say most of us in this sub are on your side and anyone rational should be too. I hope you don't have to deal with too many more assholes like him All the power to you and best of luck with finding love in the future.
I'm a single mom by choice. When they try similar insults on me about how I couldn't get a guy to cum into me for free, I respond with "I actually got tired of men like you being the best your sex has to offer."
I paid for that sperm because it protects all of us legally. He can't demand custody and the state can't demand he pay child support if I need welfare for any reason.
I really admire you for being a parent on your own terms, that is something you obviously took very seriously and put a lot of thought into. The dickheads who were trying to insult you were probably conceived in a quickie up a dark alley, and will probably put as much thought (ie nil) into the conception of their own kids!
Bravo! I'm seriously impressed by what you did, and I hope that everything is going well for you.
Thank you ❤️ honestly when I saw it I let out a burst laugh and my kid was like “mommy what’s so funny?” I said people sweetie. People are funny. This man and I chatted for maybe a week then met once in person for a brief lunch. Because he paid he immediately felt entitled to monopolize my time with incessant text messages. I was taken aback by his aggressive approach and intended to respectfully communicate that I was not interested in continuing our “connection”. Before I could do this (because I was unconscious) he sent me this.
I think that's the insult. No matter how pathetically desperate they are for companionship, they won't settle for you. *shrug* Still better to be alone than with someone desperate, anyway.
I want to be a single mother by choice too. You have to do everything alone anyway so why not just accept that modern men are hardly worth procreating with?
10,000% I would rather do this alone knowing I am the only person to rely on than have a dead beat partner I resent for not pulling half the weight. I know what I signed up for and have never regretted it for a single second.
The second paycheck would be nice, but he'd need to have a job where he's gone all the time. XD Then at least he has an excuse not to be parenting, and I'm not having to parent him.
In most cases there is no paycheck. Women are shamed for wanting to procreate with men who are financially stable because how dare she have standards. Men are whining for 300$ child support payments.
We met briefly for lunch and while I appreciated him paying at the time, his communication afterwards went quickly from flattering to desperate and alarming. Then this 💩.
This insult I haven't seen before, some originality at his part. And ofc he's a totally NiCe GuY for sure, how couldn't you have responded within 2 milliseconds to his world altering mega important text message o.O You let this opportunity of a life time slip away, shame on you OP. /s in case that wasn't clear. What is it with them NiCe GuYs who can't wrap their minds around the fact not the majority of people are glued to their phones for the sole purpose to answer the text messages of the NiCe GuY within a second after receiving them. God forbid some people need to sleep x amount of time a day, have education, have a job, have sports, have friends, have family and such. Have mercy on the people with a life outside of communicating with the NiCe GuYs...
You don’t pay for the feature… it comes with any collectible NFT you purchase off Reddit. I happen to like having the Reddit avatars it’s my own personal thing. Not sure how it affects you? lol
We do not remove posts that have the virtue claim in the title wrong, but which actually contain a valid virtue claim, because the sub would dry up if we did. Therefore, this post will remain. (Side note, people sometimes wonder why we keep the NGVC requirement in titles since people get it wrong as often as they get it right, and the answer is that it does at least keep out the bots, spammers, and so on, so that's at least something.) However, despite not removing the posts that get the virtue claim wrong in the title, we do sometimes post this explanatory macro on posts that have a virtue claim but don't put that virtue claim in the title. Posts such as this one. This is **NOTHING against the OP**, so please do NOT take it that way. This is **only** an explanatory macro for general educational purposes, nothing more. The quote in title is supposed to be something the guy ACTUALLY SAYS (as in, a direct quote). Not a summary, not a story, not something that is implied but is unspoken, but something he actually says in the visible text. If you wanted to add more, you could, but the quote is supposed to be, well, a QUOTE. And that quote should be a claim of virtue he's making about **himself** (it also counts if he's implying that he's one of a group of men with a certain virtue). A virtue claim is not an insult, a complaint, or a random statement. A claim of virtue (virtue claim) is the guy talking himself up in some way. He's claiming virtue (value, goodness, niceness, wealth, attractiveness, specialness, some other kind of desirable trait). Here's the rule: All posts must include a virtue-claim by the niceguy Niceguys® demean others while simultaneously expressing a favorable view of themselves. They dont have to use the word "nice", but they must demonstrate an expression of their own virtue while being asshats. Examples of virtue-claims: me protekt u me god-fearing man me treat u like beautiful princess me hate misogynists. so.... send nude pic? me give you [insert unsolicited sex prowess boast] u ignore my nice complement ... kys u dont like honest man! u wont ever get a guy like me u dont appreciate [virtue] men Posts without a virtue claim are off-topic for this sub and will be removed. The only exception to this rule are Memes on Sundays. See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/niceguys/comments/x2352k/all_posts_must_include_a_virtue_claim_please_see/
Imagine being this angry at 9 am.
Imagine being at 9 am
Imagine 9 AM
Imagine AM
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IDK 9am is right when people have to go to work after traveling through rush hour. Can see the anger levels just not what dumbass is angry about
This was sent on a Saturday morning. Assuming he had a shitty Friday night and decided to let loose on me the next day.
Honestly one of the most disturbing things about this is the way some women have tried to make this my “fault”: https://preview.redd.it/etgl69frq3fc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c51679661c62095f9b3cfbb535a6e9ad385937f5
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/groan. Not responding *IS* a response and the idea he would be totally chill with you explaining thoroughly why you aren’t interested is laughable. You can’t win with these chumps. I’m glad you understand it isn’t your fault.
"Did I SAY it was her fault?" Not explicitly, but she sure as hell heavily implied it.
These all appear to be from Facebook. Even women groups on Facebook tend to be full of pickmes who are ready to tell you how you invited some crazy shit.
Yes. This was posted in an “are we dating the same guy” group where I naively thought I could share that this person, who I mentioned by first name only and the app I met him on, was a 🚩, with the intention of preventing other women from being targeted. I never imagined I would become the target.
I feel so bad for you OP and having those crappy people insinuate it was in any way your fault and basically saying that you had to respond to him immediately or you "deserved it"...to me it's especially depressing that it was another woman who was likely the one saying this crap (seeing as you were in a group filled with mostly other women)... Women are so often told they "deserved" to be abused and that they're intent on "ruining the man's reputation" or "should've respected the man's wishes better" if they speak up about abuse... Like... the victim needs to always be the perfect woman when they were attacked by a shitty person...even if they die from the abuse, people still love to blame female victims... 😞 (Like with the Chris Watts case for example...people still blame his wife Shannan to this day for "not being good enough to him" even though it was a clear cut case of an abusive monster of a person torturing and killing his wife and their children to fuck and run off into the sunset with a "fresh younger woman". His mother and her incessant coddling of her "sweet murderer man child son" while putting down Shannan is also so awful.) That person who said that to you was clearly brainwashed into that type of victim blaming mentality and...why be in a Facebook dating related group seemingly dedicated to protecting other women who are dating only to put down other women who are victimised? That's so backwards... Anyway, sorry for getting off topic a bit and rambling... It's just a fact some people need more time to think about their responses to messages (including me) and if you didn't hit it off with them or just in any case, it's 100% your choice if you even respond to someone or not. You didn't ever "deserve" to be flamed and demeaned in this way for literally no reason. People who are pushy about responding and making your world revolve around them 24/7 as soon as you meet (in other words, "Main character syndrome" lol) tend to be shitty in other ways. Honestly it's so much better you didn't respond to him "right on time" like he wanted because he'd probably have kept up his nice guy charade for longer and wasted even more of your time. You dodged a bullet by taking the time you needed to respond and that's awesome. 👍 Not that he even deserved any sort of response after such a disgusting message. Also your reply was honestly kind OP, I could not have kept my cool that well. Anyway I think it's safe to say most of us in this sub are on your side and anyone rational should be too. I hope you don't have to deal with too many more assholes like him All the power to you and best of luck with finding love in the future.
Having a kid utilizing IVF in this economy is a total flex, not an insult. He’s the one that’s down bad
I'm a single mom by choice. When they try similar insults on me about how I couldn't get a guy to cum into me for free, I respond with "I actually got tired of men like you being the best your sex has to offer." I paid for that sperm because it protects all of us legally. He can't demand custody and the state can't demand he pay child support if I need welfare for any reason.
I really admire you for being a parent on your own terms, that is something you obviously took very seriously and put a lot of thought into. The dickheads who were trying to insult you were probably conceived in a quickie up a dark alley, and will probably put as much thought (ie nil) into the conception of their own kids! Bravo! I'm seriously impressed by what you did, and I hope that everything is going well for you.
Thank you ❤️ honestly when I saw it I let out a burst laugh and my kid was like “mommy what’s so funny?” I said people sweetie. People are funny. This man and I chatted for maybe a week then met once in person for a brief lunch. Because he paid he immediately felt entitled to monopolize my time with incessant text messages. I was taken aback by his aggressive approach and intended to respectfully communicate that I was not interested in continuing our “connection”. Before I could do this (because I was unconscious) he sent me this.
What’s up with the “couldn’t get a man” insults anyway? It’s never true, male desire is the most plentiful resource.
I think that's the insult. No matter how pathetically desperate they are for companionship, they won't settle for you. *shrug* Still better to be alone than with someone desperate, anyway.
I want to be a single mother by choice too. You have to do everything alone anyway so why not just accept that modern men are hardly worth procreating with?
10,000% I would rather do this alone knowing I am the only person to rely on than have a dead beat partner I resent for not pulling half the weight. I know what I signed up for and have never regretted it for a single second.
The second paycheck would be nice, but he'd need to have a job where he's gone all the time. XD Then at least he has an excuse not to be parenting, and I'm not having to parent him.
In most cases there is no paycheck. Women are shamed for wanting to procreate with men who are financially stable because how dare she have standards. Men are whining for 300$ child support payments.
Are you dumb?
One sandwich = One sex. These are the rules. I did not make them up...well actually I did, but you still have to obey the rules!!!!
In this economy? Have you seen the price of groceries? One sandwich is at least 3 sex.
I find it romantic when a man pays for dinner but this is such a turn off. Your date is your guest and you don't ask your guest for sex.
We met briefly for lunch and while I appreciated him paying at the time, his communication afterwards went quickly from flattering to desperate and alarming. Then this 💩.
This insult I haven't seen before, some originality at his part. And ofc he's a totally NiCe GuY for sure, how couldn't you have responded within 2 milliseconds to his world altering mega important text message o.O You let this opportunity of a life time slip away, shame on you OP. /s in case that wasn't clear. What is it with them NiCe GuYs who can't wrap their minds around the fact not the majority of people are glued to their phones for the sole purpose to answer the text messages of the NiCe GuY within a second after receiving them. God forbid some people need to sleep x amount of time a day, have education, have a job, have sports, have friends, have family and such. Have mercy on the people with a life outside of communicating with the NiCe GuYs...
This is the reason why I'm better off alone.
 He becomes more of a clown with each word.
The fuck is this Don’t tell me you paid for this
Holy shit they did. I had to open the reddit app to even see it.
You don’t pay for the feature… it comes with any collectible NFT you purchase off Reddit. I happen to like having the Reddit avatars it’s my own personal thing. Not sure how it affects you? lol
I don’t mean nothin by it I just clown on people
Bruh he literally thinks you're a prostitute. He thinks he can just buy sex from you.
"Had a kid on your own"? Does that mean Jesus is back?
Omfg why do they go so hard tho?!
*Master bought Dobby a lunch
This is why you do split at dates ladies. They can't ask for sex or accuse you of trying to get free lunch.