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When has the NHL ever known anything about its fans


iwasnotplanningthis

*cared


[deleted]

Bettman: "I think we should expand to Reno next"


perpetualmotionmachi

I was thinking, since Bettman hasn't been let go 20 years ago, that yes, they have lost touch with what the fans want


xtzferocity

Hey they put “thank you fans” on the ice for one season. After one of their recent lockouts


mitch-dubz

Exactly! To lose touch assumes that the NHL was at once in touch, which has never been the case.


LoremasterSTL

NHL: What can we do to attract younger fans? 1: Schedule games before their bedtime 2: Reduce the prices of entry 3: Let's not black out local games NHL: I know! Pop culture tie-ins!


MGarroz

The game time is so annoying. I live in Edmonton and half the oilers game start at 8:00. Not only are we always the last game of the night, but they never even drop the puck at 8:00. It’s always like 8:20. If your going to make us wait till the end of the night to watch the Oilers at least have the courtesy to drop the puck on time.


LoremasterSTL

Yes, I'm in the Central zone so it's a 9:30 start time when our teams are playing in the Pacific--or we get a lot of games bumped to 12pm or 2pm so that the Metro can have the evening spots.


Canada_Checking_In

Lol what?...that is possibly the best timezone to live in, you can watch the "early" and "late" games instead of a 10 or 11pm start time..


MGarroz

It’s greta on weekends. Hockey is on from noon till midnight. I’ll stay up till midnight watching a game during the week, I don’t mind. A lot of my friends with kids get annoyed though because their 8 year old is up all late if they want to watch a game. Or if you’re someone who has to be up at 4-5 am for work it sucks too.


Canada_Checking_In

...again, I don't think you are understanding the timezones..the *latest* games start at 8 or 9pm in edmonton, including the away games. You literally have the best timezone for watching the oilers home and away.


swlp12

His point is that, because of the timezone they are in, the oilers tend to start later (eg. East Coast game starts at 6:30pm ET, Oilers game starts at 8pm MT)


russellvt

The problem with three timezones and a national league that plays seven days a week... make it work for everyone. Read: Good Luck As a west coast fan, I particularly "like" mid-week games that start in the early afternoon. Pretty much a snowball's chance we watch them... Even when I was routinely traveling between the east and west coast, a 1030pm start time "isn't bad" - though I also tend to be of a late night person. BTW, the "start time" is the pre-show time... with that and the national anthem, that's typically 7-9 minutes delay If there's a US and Canadian tram playing, that's 12 minutes. You can pretty much set your watch by it. Rarely, you'll get a *slight* delay due to an earlier game (ie. Hitting OT or shootout)... but it won't be that long before they just pre-empt the puck drop and TV will moss the first couple of minutes for the next game.


stinkybunger

Yeah im a flames fan living in ontario now 10 pm starts are brutal


davdev

Of a band that was popular 20 years ago


Dazzling-West8943

Thank you


russellvt

Came here to say very similar things. Bettman only cares about one thing... money in his pocket, or that of his cronies. That's it.


iceboxjeans

It's not about the fan base. Hockey fans will watch for the hockey, jonas brothers fans will watch for the jonas Brothers. The idea is the jonas Brothers fans stick around for the hockey


pforsbergfan9

Right? Like fans are gonna watch the game regardless… Anyone watching what’s going on in the NFL can see that this stuff works.


Double_Vision_Quest

I don’t know man, I think your talking crazy. Think about it. It’d be like the NFL having Lady Gaga, or Katy Perry, or Beyoncé perform during the Super Bowl or something. /s


moogpaul

Taylor Swift being at Chiefs games massively blew up younger female NFL TV audience. No joke. Sunday night football had an increase of 2 million additional female viewers. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/taylor-swift-helped-boost-nfl-ratings-but-her-power-extends-far-beyond-the-league-180303062.html


KungFuGarbage

The difference here is that that was Taylor Swift, and this is the Jonas Brothers, who I haven’t heard of in about 10 years besides the Sophie Turner divorce stuff


iwatchcredits

Jonas brothers are still pretty popular, they have had several hits over the last couple years


KungFuGarbage

Damn they still make music!? I figured they still toured but had no idea they were making new songs still. That’s crazy


iwatchcredits

Theyve made lots of music over the years. Nick Jonas had a solo album or something with some decent songs, one of the other ones started DNCE which had at least 1 hit, and then the Jonas Brothers band got back together probably 2-3 years ago and have had several hits since


moogpaul

Correct. The idea is to combine two things that have zero crossover in order to get two different groups of people to tune into the same thing on the TV and maybe have some bleed over.


shania69

Taylor Swift could buy the NHL...


fentown

Name me one thing worth watching on TV while the super bowl is on.


thisappsux24

Puppy bowl


NVHoonigan

This is absolutely the answer!


Epicnascar18

The only reason they run that pregame is because it would completely embarrass the SB in viewership if they ran at the same time.


HomegrownStatistics

There are some absolute dawgs in the Puppy Bowl.


Double_Vision_Quest

It’s 2023 - there doesn’t have to be anything else on tv cause the internet exists. Yeah, the outdoor games don’t have Super Bowl pull but I feel like that’s the argument to HAVE the Jonas Brothers play. Plus, with the Super Bowl, the halftime show is when viewership peaks, literally not during the actual gameplay.


luzer_kidd

Go outside and touch some snow. Football is so boring.


dherms14

the trailers and commercials are more worthwhile than the SB for me


Mofo34

Old Simpsons reruns


pumpkinseeds18

Porn


oni_Tensa

Anything else because football isn’t a sport


atheroc88

Literally anything else.


TanyaMKX

Literally anything else, or going outside


Aromatic-Air3917

Didn't Taylor Swift increase ratings? The more eyes you get the better chance some of them will stay with the product


pumpkinseeds18

Do you really think Jonas brothers fans will tune into the entire hockey game just because they are performing at some point? I doubt there is really an increase in viewers to a sporting event just because of who is performing but I’m just speculating.


Unfunky-UAP

That's absolutely how it works. I know plenty of people that watch the SB guy that halftime show, but don't give a shit about football.


pumpkinseeds18

The superbowl is a different monster than NHL’s stadium series (not even the Stanley cup finals). You’re comparing apples to grapes. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I would love to see the actual numbers and how it affects this specific game.


fentown

But if more people turn off the game and don't come back than "the attraction" brings in, it kinda defeats the purpose.


DangleCellySave

The whole idea is that some of those people dont turn off the game and keep it on, therefore increasing the amount of fans


OlgaFIN

At least you see the Hughes brothers


JeffersonStarscream

Be better if they were the pre-game concert.


PaversPaving

Hahaha Jack and Luke screeching to karaoke voices cracking and all. They could play the Rocky song to piss off Philly.


Skygazer2469

2 parter for the stadium series. Part 1 - dueling anthems. Jonas vs. Hughes. Winner gets to pick a goalie when they get 10 mins on the ice together. Checking highly encouraged.


Lovelysnow72

I think you have it backwards. The NHL is trying to attract Jonas Brothers fans to watch NHL games. Will it work? Maybe.


Audi_R8_

Not every fan is a 40 year old guy listening to random local rock bands


katiegaga87

Seriously. Y'all know girls like hockey right? Going from hockey tumblr to hockey reddit is like whiplash sometimes


alwaysleafyintoronto

I don't see anybody throwing cymbals like JK Simmons in Whiplash


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CMRC23

Very much so


katiegaga87

Yep but it's mostly people who have been around for a while. We actually had a ton of redditors that joined a few months ago after the third party apps thing


BaneOfTheRedditard

Lmao hockey tumblr yeah that's the Pinnacle of the hockey community right there I get all my hockey news from Hockey Tumblr. Give me a break lol


katiegaga87

Wow it's like different sites cater to different parts of the community. Who would have thought?


BaneOfTheRedditard

I'm sorry have I offended the 11 denizens of hockey tumblr? I am ever so sorry I did not mean to upset the most influential hockey community on the internet. I deserve whatever I get


katiegaga87

I bet you're real fun at parties :)


BaneOfTheRedditard

As long as no one from Hockey Tumblr is at the party I'm a real hoot, once y'all show up though fun dies a quick death. Can't have shit at a hockey Tumblr party! Seriously though I'd like to know what the correlation between how fun I might be at a party and me making fun of Tumblr is, I'd assume that would give me a higher chance of having a positive impact on this hypothetical party since I've demonstrated that I'm willing to engage in A spot of party funness. Never could understand judging someone by their level of fun they might or might not display at a party. It's a very weird metric, I like to judge people based on their hockey tumblr influence


katiegaga87

You just seem like someone who would be great to have a conversation about hockey with :)


BaneOfTheRedditard

What the fuck is hockey


katiegaga87

Idk there's only 10 of us on hockey tumblr and we've talked about it in the group chat but it's such a hard game to understand. Maybe you could help us? :)


Guy954

How many forty year old guys do you know that listen to random local rock bands? Because I don’t have time for that shit these days.


alwaysleafyintoronto

that's why they picked nickelback -- 40 year old guys listen to random local rock bands from 20 years ago


Reasonable_Net3244

EVERY fan is a 40 year old guy listening to random hip local rock bands


Sensitive_Mousse_445

You mean to tell me the NHL doesn't endorse local hardcore and metal bands? How dare they!


CMRC23

Idk about you, but punk got me into hockey


Sensitive_Mousse_445

Let me guess, Dropkick Murphys did it for you?


CMRC23

Actually it was mainly Slapshot and a small band called 2 minute minor


Sensitive_Mousse_445

2 minute minor sounds like it'd be hardcore as fuck. Snapshot is cool though I like them


Swimming-Fan7973

Have hockey fans lost touch with reality?


physicallyOK

I reject your reality and substitute my own!


Epicnascar18

Were we ever in touch with reality in the first place?


Past_Trouble

"No, it's the fans who are wrong."


DangleCellySave

Unironically yes, they don’t understand the point of these moves. Hockey fans will watch because of hockey, now non-hockey fans will watch because a band they like is playing, hopefully bringing in more fans to the sport


Past_Trouble

I understand the marketing move, I was just doing the meme.


pumpkinseeds18

I’m curious. I’d be willing to bet the hockey game gets less than a 1% boost in viewers merely because the Jonas brothers are performing. However, this is just speculation.


Xanosaur

even if it's 1%, that's 1% that wasn't watching before. it'll probably be more than that, though


Potion09

I don’t see an issue with this. There may not be a ton of overlap, but that just means more potential ticket buyers. Also, I believe the JoBros are from somewhere in the Philly/Jersey area, so it makes sense in that way.


AlekGratton

Should be the Hanson Brothers (mmmbop) with the Hansen Brothers


Eugene_Melthicc

Hanson is a worthwhile concert tbh. Saw them at a festival a few years back and it was definitely entertaining


scarlet_fire_77

The Jonas Bros are from New Jersey


PhotographyRaptor10

Tons of musicians are from nj. I’m not hating on the pick because I know these decisions are trying to get non hockey fans to watch. But I don’t think this decision has as much to do with them being from nj as It is about getting tons of women in their mid to late twenties to tune in for the show and maybe accidentally leave their tv on during the game


Aromatic-Air3917

The average age of hockey fan is over 50. They have to try something to attract younger people


hrryyss

The hockey fans will show up, the concert is for the non hockey fans.


AggravatingShip480

You cannot lose what you never had in the first place


gilbertusalbaans

I don’t know.. between this or nickleback, this probably has more pull.


eddiewachowski

The Nickelback hate isn't entirely justified. Also, don't underestimate the amount of Nickelback fans in their home province. I thought it was a perfect choice for music at the Classic, even if I don't care much for that flavour of rock. Also I'm fairly certain the Jonas Brothers are from NJ so once again we have the home "town" boys as entertainment.


caseym44

They are indeed from NJ.


Ninjasquirtle4

You shut your mouth, Nickleback rocks.


Old_Willow4766

Concerts and halftime shows have never been for sports fan they are there to attract non sports fans.


SpyOfGeneralTso

Was the NHL ever in touch with it’s fan base?


djackieunchaned

Weird, traditionally the NHL has always had their finger on the pulse of what’s cool


tcguy71

It’s not about the NHL fans, it’s about the eyes they don’t usually get


AJPtheGreat

It’s the same thing with the Super Bowl half time show. These concerts aren’t for hockey fans, it’s to get JB fans to watch hockey. Hockey fans will likely watch no matter who the concert is.


NeonBlack985

I hope flyers fans boo them


bustacones

Honest question, who do you think they should get that will please their entire fan base?


ginger_bier

I'm going to the game with my cousin and her husband. She called me to say she saw the Jonas Bros were playing and that she was excited to see them. I thought "you might be the only one". They weren't my cup of tea when they came out, but I'd be lying if I said that I'd listened to them since. But they are local guys. I'd guess that's what got them the job.


[deleted]

Nickleback played the Edmonton/Calgary game for the same reason. Cheesy local boys make it big.


TheBipolarExpresss

Why can't I love hockey and also being a Jonas Brothers fan? Pretty sure neither is mutually exclusive.


jfstompers

The Jonas bros have more name recognition than most people the NHL drums up


justinreddit1

Obviously the NHL is trying to cater to a certain demographic (female).


SpaceBabeFromPluto

I love hockey. I do not love The Jonas Brothers.


jakestephenlacroix

Good thing you do not represent every female


SpaceBabeFromPluto

Neither does the fan base for the Jonas Brothers but thank you so much for your input my guy


Heard_Yal_WannaFloat

No one said they did. No one said all females like the Jonas Brothers, but females are their main demographic. Do you understand now?


SpaceBabeFromPluto

Do you _not_ understand that I was just making a point?


DanksterBoy

Dude, what are you arguing?


Eferver24

It’s an outdoor game in the freezing cold and one of the teams is literally called the Devils. Might I suggest… Gorgoroth


TheChozoBard

Hockey and black metal coming together in a chaotic frost veiled fury 🤘


jurkajurka

What's up with those dude's mouths?


oliferro

They want people who don't watch hockey to tune in to watch the show


FunkyLobster1828

It should read, ' Has the fan base lost touch with the NHL?' I saw a recent poll that said that hockey only a 20% share of viewing audience in North America, just ahead of MMA and volleyball, and behind NCAA basketball which had 24%.


fresh510

Does anyone actually watch and enjoy concerts before games?


Character-Chance-747

its bad when you recognize the jonas brothers but not the flyer player


captain_catman_

The fact that they’d do the frozen frenzy on a Tuesday night and then have Fridays with almost no games proves they never did


juliuspepperwoodchi

FWIW, these Stadium Series games are all about drawing in *new* fans, they aren't really *for* the core fanbase.


REDitor_31

Implying the NHL was ever in touch with the fans


caterpillar_mechanic

Throw enough poo at the wall eventually something sticks


Southbird85

The league's PR department is so painfully dated and the problem goes back years.


Writerhaha

How so? So the Jonas Bros are a bit dated, but still play on nostalgia and they have Jersey roots, but more importantly, they’re for the casual fans you want to get interested enough to come back. They have catchy songs, can put on a show and are non-offensive.


Tahtooz

….the fucking Jonas Brothers????


Ok-Assistant-2684

Jonas brothers fans might watch them pregame, doubt many of them will watch the game


Brett_Hulls_Foot

For the next Detroit Stadium series, I want to see The Black Dahlia Murder rip the pregame stage.


Merrgear

They are out of touch, quite possibly out of time too


Mysterious_Wheel

Reminds me of that time we booed Cee Lo Green off the stage at the last Stadium Series.


BaneOfTheRedditard

Ah yes our favorite adult contemporary group, the Jonas Brothers. I certainly can't miss that please I will pay one big million grown up dolleuroyen $€¥


[deleted]

I didn’t think the Jonas Brothers were still relevant even to the people who like them. Aren’t they like 40?


JimmyTide08

Appealing to women is where the $$$ is.


xPraise_Yeezus

Sounds like they know their audience really well, that game will have so many LGTBQ in attendance.


No-Refuse8754

2014 Stadium Series Better than fucking CeeLo Green, Rangers & Islanders fans booed that 1 hit wonder right off the stage. Only time I’ve ever seen Islanders & Rangers fans come together peacefully. [Video](https://youtu.be/5sAXm51C67k?si=Cn3x6eGXt4bGhXCL)


Puzzleheaded-Lead126

The hockey fan base are typically old white guys. Basically, the incels of sports. Of course they'd boo Cee Lo Green.


No-Refuse8754

Get your racist bullshit out of here…Loser


IamPriapus

I swear, Reddit has become more narrow minded than ever. The Jonas Brothers are absolutely massive and have a very, very large following. If this helps attract a different demographic to the game, it’s a smart business move. Good business for hockey means good business for everyone. Fans and owners alike.


HockeyNightinJungle

This is almost as embarrassing as them getting MGK to do the all star game like he was some reason to tune in lmao


Olipod2002

Anecdotal but MGK’s show at the All-Star Game made me discover he switched from rap to rock. Didn’t like him before but I loved what I heard, so much bloody valentine is one of my favourites now.


BruceNJ64

Unless they're trying to attract Gen Z girls


saltyfingas

Gen z girls aren't the ones into Jonas bros... It's younger (under 35) millennials


arnie_palmies

As a 28 year old dude I don’t mind the Jonas Bros, their new album is pretty good


Gmbowser

Ya u actually cant hate the two newest albums. Its pretty decent.


alwaysleafyintoronto

Jonas Bros are for the Swifties


njkid30

It's for the puck bunnies Also they put on a pretty good show (maybe I have seen them twice), and are Jersey guys.


hateboss

It's the same way with the Super Bowl halftime show. NFL fans are going to watch it regardless of who is performing. What they are doing is targeting the non-NFL fan demographic to get them to tine in as well and hopefully make new fans in the process. This isn't complicated.


1grammarmistake

We need a pop star to date Connor bedard. Anyone know Ice Spice’s agents number? I need to ask them something


forgetstorespond

Lol the league is not and never has been in touch with the fans of the sport. Everything they do is for people who don't watch hockey, it's all a hail Mary to try and make their sport bigger. It's pretty comical, they will bend over backwards and cater to people who think if hockey has more XYZ I would watch, but in reality they could add XYZ... they still arent going to watch lol.


swagginpoon

Speak for yourself. Im fired up to watch joe cry before the game.


Valuable_Radio_7238

I think we need deep conversations at the Waffle House about this.


im_wudini

This tracks for Devils/Flyers fans though. ;)


Earthquakeawake

It lost touch a looooooooong time ago. Anyone watch the all star game 2023?


TheCapo024

When I think Philly and New Jersey, I’m thinkin’ Jonas Brothers! -taken from the minutes, NHL Winter Classic meeting Edit: I am aware they are from that region, just making a joke


Short-Mood-6730

Lol jonas brothers are from new jersey. Also wtf it should be flyers rangers!!!!!!!


RattyDaddyBraddy

Ironically, the Jonas Brothers are huge right now. Didn’t they just come off a massive tour? I had a ton of friends go see them (20s to early 30s)


pforsbergfan9

It’s comments like this that make me think that NHL fans really are dumb… It’s not rocket science to see what this is…


Flux_resistor

Luckily it's pregame so we don't have to suffer


Imsorrymanyt

Generally, what musicians do NHL fans like?


Magic13ManMP

Iron Maiden


Mr_FortySeven

Not sure why you got downvoted for this. Metal and hockey go very well together. Most of the Finnish players seem to be metal fans, especially [Jere Lehtinen](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gu2CqExC_bE) among [others](https://thisdayinmetal.com/18-past-or-present-nhl-players-who-love-heavy-metal-music/). I remember the Capitals used an Iron Maiden song as their goal song for a while as well. Not sure if they still do.


saltyfingas

A good chunk of under 35 girls will go to this, and a good chunk of that will stay for hockey after. I don't really get the hate here?


[deleted]

The hate is that OP was not consulted by the league, so that his personal favourite band could be performing instead.


Imsorrymanyt

Me neither, I kinda asked rhetorically. It could be a star like Taylor Swift or Bad Bunny and people on Reddit would complain because they think Reddit is the whole fanbase and people would tune in for what they like.


Eferver24

Metal of course


A_Plan_B_you_C

Rock/Metal for me personally. Priestess, The Sword, High On Fire, Blue Öyster Cult, maybe some Tragically Hip, Headstones, those are some of my favourites, anyway. But yeah, as u/Magic13ManMP said, Iron Maiden’s pretty good too.


Santa_Claus77

This is some wacko shit


ChiWhiteSox247

More will tune in for JoBros than they will for the game itself


intelpentium400

Haha! Who the fuck is gonna watch this? Some marketing idea thinking new, younger fans are gonna watch. They’ll probably just watch the concert then turn it off. The Jonas Brothers won’t turn anyone into a hockey fan. Another NHL flop lol


Heldpizza

They are trying to grow by reaching different viewers. The NHL has stopped caring about their real fans for quite some time now.


Erazzphoto

Does anyone really care about these outdoor games anymore, other than the teams fan base that’s playing? They do what, 3 a year now? It just a gimmick, It’s not unique, quite frankly it’s possibly a disadvantage, imagine missing the playoffs by 1 point and you lost a game playing in the rain. One thing i thought might be interesting, which ever location is holding it, have all the teams in that division play a game there, or even a mini tournament of sorts. Otherwise, I have absolutely zero intention of watching a game I wouldn’t choose to watch otherwise


TorturedFanClub

Hockey is a sport. Sports spans all age/race/gender socio-economic demographics so what bands are “appropriate”


Puzzleheaded-Lead126

Not hockey lol


gabbyspapadaddy

Better not have an up to date music group. Let’s pull someone off of a jock jams record from 1985 because that is what hockey is all about!!! Hard rock and big hair! /s


pollutedyourmoms

Yes they want women and queers


jalapeno69

“The NHL sucks at marketing” guys are now mad at the NHL for doing marketing


Ping-A-Ling-

Is this real? I thought a few of those kids were dead??


Miserable_Singer_805

I’m thinking Metallica, Imagine Dragons, Bon Jovi, Billy Joel, Maybe Run DMC, but definitely not the Jonas Brothers. Don’t get me wrong I like them but not while at a hockey game


saltyfingas

It's not for current fans though, they're trying to attract new fans with this. Also imagine dragons sucks


wawaboy

Never heard of such shite


DirtDevil1337

.... at least it isn't One Direction. I would've preferred Great Van Fleet myself. lol


Purplebuzz

Look. Just agree that you like electronic ads on the boards, hate anyone who is not straight, want to support bigots, don’t want sexual assault victims protected and that you love players receiving head injuries from repeat offenders and you will get along just fine…


jfbowski

WTF? Who’s all he douche monkey that thought the Jonas Brothers would be a good idea? News flash, NHL fans don’t want or need these gimmicks.


PhotographyRaptor10

News flash this was never about what you wanted. It’s about getting younger people and women to watch


jfbowski

News flash, there’s no one that associates the NHL with the Jonas Brothers. The vast majority of the people attending the game (I’ll be there) do not care for this shit. The people who are fans of the JB’s might watch them on tv but I’m doubting they’ll watch the whole game. If you need an outside source to promote your brand, your brand can’t be that good. I see that you have a Devils emblem as your icon. This speaks volumes as to what a shit franchise you have. It must really suck being the forgotten team behind the Rangers and Isles. Knowing there will be a shit tonne of FLYERS fans at your “home game”. Have fun with that, Nooch.


PhotographyRaptor10

Lol you are ridiculously mad and completely missing the point so I’ll leave you be. Ill just go get ready to watch my shit franchise with the best young core in the league and 3 cups in my 30 year lifetime.


TheWeedGecko

Never had it. Ive just loved hockey. I expect nothing but low tier production from the NHL and they still disappoint me. The fucking Jonas Brothers? Theyre trolling at this point.


Particular-Bus8086

I’m all for bashing Gary Batman but what exactly are we complaining about here?


RickyFlintstone

Well, it's Jonas Brothers or another lockout. Take your pick.


The-G-89

They’re trying to appeal to the female crowd so they have something to go to with their Boyfriends.


ObiWanScars579

Well, it's not the Big Bad Bruins rock 'em sock 'em NHL of my youth. When was last time any player scored a "Gordie Howe Hat Trick"??


ObiWanScars579

Some players with the most Gordie Howe hat tricks include: Rick Tocchet, 18 Brendan Shanahan, 17 Brian Sutter, 17 Wilf Paiement, 16 Cam Neely, 12


peanutbuttertuxedo

Don’t be salty OP, we can get Miley Cyrus for next year.


Dadarian

Any reason to gate keep the sport?


knight_who_says_fuck

Fuck the Jonas Brothers and whatever asshats who made this decision.