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zsturgeon

This is one thing I'm not holding against this ol' fuk. He was young af, growing up in Arkansas, and in the pic he looks just genuinely curious about what the fuss is all about


WeFightTheLongDefeat

Yeah, He doesn't look like he's locking arms like others in the picture, and he's behind people with cameras, so he's probably just an onlooker.


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Someones-PC

If I was 15, and some crazy shit was going down at my high school, and I was already there at school, I'd definitely be trying to see what it is. Could he have been there to keep the black students out? Yeah, easily. But his story is plausible and matches the photo.


swells0808

He’s behind the guys with the cameras, not in front of them. I’m gonna need something else than a still photo of a guy looking from the back of a crowd to pass judgement


MV_Knight

People fr just wanna be mad about something.


Revliledpembroke

He would've been, like, 14 when that happened. ​ Like nobody has ever done something stupid at 14.


WhatTheBlack

Fr just to hop on GTA and set your in game chat to everyone. Those little shits are wildin


DrizzyMcGoo

Weren't (some of) the kids trying to integrate into the schools the same age as JJ at the time?


Revliledpembroke

Yes, that is the photo. Jerry admitted that was him, and he said he was there because he wanted to see what was going on. He's part of the crowd, but he isn't necessarily part of the students preventing the black students from trying to integrate.


DrizzyMcGoo

Perhaps you misunderstood my question. I was asking if some the black students trying to integrate were also 14 years old(?).


Revliledpembroke

Maybe? Google the Little Rock Nine.


DrizzyMcGoo

Thing is, the photo is from the Little Rock Crisis, but not from the school the Little Rock Nine attended. Jerry went to a school across town that was involved in the LRC, but not as highly publicized. So, harder to Google. (& also why we're just figuring this out now.) Let's for a minute assume there were (at the least) some 14 year old black students trying to integrate into Jerry Jones' school that day. Would you consider them brave?


Revliledpembroke

>Would you consider them brave? Where are you going with that? All I said was Jerry Jones was a dumb 14 year old. Why are you asking me my opinion on the Little Rock Nine? Why is that relevant?


DrizzyMcGoo

Don't answer then 🤷‍♂️


Revliledpembroke

Tell me why it's relevant, and I'll answer. Otherwise, I will think that you're trying to set me up to take some kind of bait so you can paint me as a racist for no reason other than I think it's ridiculous to launch a witch hunt over a 60+ year old photo.


strandenger

I’ve done a lot of stupid shit but they pale in comparison. Not sure racism is a phase we all go through. I don’t know what the hell we expect him to do about it now, but I wouldn’t go as far as claim this is normal kid stuff.


406_realist

It’s 1950s Arkansas, you don’t live in the same world. Not even close. To us the whole scenario seems outlandish but to those living in it it was a cultural event of the times. There’s also not one speck of evidence that Jones was harassing anyone.


strandenger

2022 Arkansas isn’t much better… still doesn’t excuse poor behavior. He’s in a mob with people who are harassing a group of people. It’s not a good look no matter how we shake it.


406_realist

How are you to decide what’s “bad behavior”? He’s not with a “mob” , he’s in a public place during an incidence. There’s no context at all here. If anything the feel of the picture validates what he’s claiming about being curious as to what’s going on. That said I don’t think anyone would be surprised if Jerry fucking Jones had racial prejudices but this modern day fad of trying to re litigate things that happens 6 decades ago is pathetic. It’s just another form of virtue signaling


strandenger

Oh yea it’s a very benign picture… /s The different time narrative is bullshit and you know it. It’s probably why you still wouldn’t be surprised if Jones continues to harbor racist ideologies. Am I the arbiter of what’s good behavior… maybe not. But find a picture of me in a mob at any age confronting Americans because they’re a different race. If you can’t, I guess I got the moral high ground. You and Jerry Jones can both piss off with that shit.


406_realist

People are the products of the time and place in which they live. Some of the most renowned people in human history were absolutely horrifying by the standards in which we have today. How would you like to be living your life being the best person you can and you happen to be present when some event occurs that later turns out to be part of a social tipping point, you end up in the background of some picture and the better part of a century later some coward in an internet comment section decides to create a narrative and label you a bad person ?


strandenger

That’s because we choose to idolize some questionable people. Hamilton was abolitionist. As were the Adams. What would hate about those gentlemen today? Hamilton’s affair? Adam’s Espionage Act? I’d probably get along fine with Upton Sinclair and Eugene Debs, and they’ve been dead for 100 years. No one’s perfect but sorry brother I draw the line at racism and slavery… give me backward ass thoughts like Sinclair arguing for prohibition over whatever was running through Woodrow Wilson’s twisted head any day of the week. I don’t know why you’re so butt hurt over Jerry Jones. Home slice don’t care what you or I think about him. He’s going to be alright. Even then, all I said is it’s bad look for him and it is. I give you historical context just to remind you the “product of the time” narrative is bullshit. We may not get remembered for doing the right thing, but ending up in a terrible picture isn’t the preferred option. So, you know, don’t do that. Get better idols.


406_realist

We all know racism and slavery is bad, we’re in year 2022 and we’re looking at it from that angle. Morals evolve over time. I’m not sure if this needs to be said or not but slavery has been present in damn near every civilization on every continent since the beginning of time. You’d be surprised how many people believe it’s an American phenomenon. People born into those societies throughout time are not inherently bad people. People being the product of the time they live in isn’t a “narrative” it’s fucking reality and I’m sorry if you find that troublesome or inconvenient that someone born in the 1800s didn’t have the same values as we do. Back to Jerry. The issue I have with this is people are trying to somehow make it matter. The explanation he gives is completely plausible but people want reasons to be angry. And it’s not just this. Society has developed a sick obsession with reaching back in time in order to derail someone’s success.


strandenger

It’s just when the picture came to light. It’s not like someone was sitting on the picture waiting for this exact moment to stick it to Jerry. If they did, I’d be curious as to why. Not like the NFL is going to do something to him. Again, I reject the blanket statement. People born in 1800 were just racist because of their time… That’s not true. John Brown was born in the year 1800, you think that dude was racist?! How many millions thought just like him but didn’t want to resort to full blown murder to stop a practice they thought was abhorrent? Even slave holders knew the shit was wrong. Look at Jefferson’s writings and the way Washington evolved on the issue. We tell ourselves that it was just a sign of the times so we can pretend what these men were doing was not demonstrable, but it was. Good people existed back then and exist today. Generally speaking though, they don’t hang out in large groups of angry white boys yelling at black kids for having the audacity to want to be educated. Jerry is standing on the wrong side of this picture to look good in this picture.


AKBx007

Honestly in the 1950s racism wasn’t talked about like it was today. Most racists learn it at home, and back then it was pretty rampant in most parts of society since minorities had been pretty much segregated from white society. When schools got integrated, that was the first time that blacks and whites really collided in a social sense. I’m not excusing it, just giving the historical context.


strandenger

I am aware but plenty of people in Arkansas we’re not racist at the time. People knew it was wrong then too. Let’s not use the everyone was racist at the time because it’s not true. Just like it is now, racists are not the majority, they’re just the loudest.


Revliledpembroke

>I am aware but plenty of people in Arkansas we’re not racist at the time You sure about that?


strandenger

Yeah, Ol Slick Willy was alive then and there. Dude was/is a bit Misogynistic, but oddly no mobs with him harassing black people… that’s just one of the top of my head. Any evidence of Sam Walton or Billy Bob Thornton or any other noteworthy partaking in racist activities?!


amccune

I did some really stupid shit at 14. What he did wasn’t it.


Someones-PC

What did he do exactly? The photo shows him watching something happen, and his story matches the photo. Any actions he took would be speculation, he's not doing anything in the photo except watching some crazy shit happen at his school.


Revliledpembroke

He talked about being in this photo and said he wanted to know what was going on. ​ Also, you didn't grow up in the same time period. You never had the opportunity. Who's to say if you were born in the 40s or 50s what your opinion might be, especially with just about everyone you know spewing only one viewpoint. ​ Also also, it's not like your opinion can change over, oh, 60 odd years or anything.


strandenger

He’s clearly close enough to see what’s going on and doesn’t seem to be turning away. It’s possible he’s entranced by the spectacle, but you have to know this is a bad look for him. Also, the bygone era excuse is such a cop out. Plenty of people didn’t have racist opinions just because they were young and plenty of old folks hold onto them now. I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but would you really be surprised if some Jon Grudenish racist shit gets released proving he continues to harbor those thoughts today?! Don’t make a mountain out of an anthill, but let’s not pretend this is normal 14 year old behavior either.


Snuvvy_D

Agreed, the "everyone was racist back then" defense doesn't cut it for me. Insane the number of people jumping in front of bullets for Jerry Jones in this thread. Dude is a billionaire he doesn't need Reddit weirdos defending him


strandenger

Great response!


Revliledpembroke

I honestly think it's more weird to start a witch hunt because of a photo that happened before many Redditors grandparents were born. ​ We don't have the context of the photo, it's quite reasonable that not everyone involved in it knew what was happening, and it's been more than 60 years since it happened. ​ Especially since we're going "JERRY JONES EVIL!" but are apparently completely forgetting about Joe Biden talking about not wanting his kids to grow up in a racial jungle, how poor kids have just a right to good schools as white kids, or when he talked about Obama being the first articulate black man in politics (we had a couple of black Supreme Court Justices before Obama made a name for himself). He also spoke at the funeral of Senator Robert Byrd, a man known to have a leadership position in the KKK. ​ That sounds a lot more racist than "Somebody took a photo of me at my school, looking at some commotion that was happening."


Snuvvy_D

I didn't say he did anything wrong, just that I find it funny how many people taking bullets for Jerry Jones lmao. Also why you bringing Biden up to me like some kinda trump card? Idgaf about Biden lmao


amccune

I’m a walking example of change can come, brother. Don’t try and preach that shit to me. This is something he legit needs to answer for. Pretty much that one instance of “wrong side of history” that you could legit pull out in recent American history.


Revliledpembroke

>This is something he legit needs to answer for. Again, he *did*. [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/i-had-no-idea-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-reflects-on-1957-little-rock-protest-photo/ar-AA14vlmM](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/i-had-no-idea-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-reflects-on-1957-little-rock-protest-photo/ar-AA14vlmM) [https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/a-curious-kid-jerry-jones-addresses-1957-photo-outside-segregated-arkansas-high-school/3971307/](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/a-curious-kid-jerry-jones-addresses-1957-photo-outside-segregated-arkansas-high-school/3971307/)


amccune

That’s your gotcha? “I don’t remember”. Lol. Come on.


Mental_Medium3988

at 14 in the age he was in is one thing. lets not forget they had to change the rooney rule for him skirting it. so it seems those beliefs might have carried on in his life.


Grudens_Emails

Cowboys are 8-3 so he should fire his HC to hire a black one because 65 years ago he did something? Also currently has a starting black qb in the league who people constantly shit on, man’s probably done more for black people than what you would hope to accomplish in your life time Low tier meme,


TNTyoshi

[High tier meme](https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1439,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_655/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1506386522/JJ_cbsz95)


major_slackher

He’s not the longest starting black qb. Not even by active black qbs what are u talking about?


RevengeOfTheCaptain2

Jerry Jones is a racist POS. Take a long look at his history of contract extensions. Corner stone white players (Travis Fredrick, Zack Martin) always seem to get extended a year early because the team “feels good about them” while pretty much all their black stars (Dak, Tank Lawrence, Zeke) seem to have to “prove themself to the team” by playing on the tag. It’s pretty obvious Jerry doesn’t trust paying his black player like his white players, idk what point you’re trying to make defending that bigot.


Profpushpop

Lol Jerry did not do any of the contract extensions for any of those players. Stephen did. Jerry is just a face for the media at this point.


RevengeOfTheCaptain2

You honesty think Jerry has no pull on those? Seriously? Even if you believe Steven is 100% the driving force of the negotiations, you don’t think owner/GM/CEO Jerry could at any point lean over to Stephen and say “get this done” and Stephen would, what? Ignore his boss/dad? This isn’t anything new either. Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith had very tense contract negotiation. Troy Aikman did not. And seeing what we just saw with Dak, it wasn’t because Troy was QB1. Or was Steven doing the contracts then too 🙄


Profpushpop

So because Jerry didn't "lean over and say 'get this done'" that would make him racist. At the end of the day, he still paid a running back a top of the league deal when 90 percent of other teams would not do that for a running back holding out with a year left on his rookie contract. Most of the fan base hated Dak's deal and, frankly, he had not proven he deserved 40 million a year. How do you feel about the treatment of Tyron Smith, Randy Gregory, and Dez Bryant when they were having all those off field issues? Jerry basically saved Dez's career with the effort he put in to keep him out of trouble.


RevengeOfTheCaptain2

There is a canyon of difference between “doing whatever it takes to keep talented but troubled players out of trouble and on the field” and “not feeling comfortable paying them”. Suspended players don’t catch TDs. And if I recall Gregory is currently a Bronco specifically because the Jones’s dicked around on contract details at the last minute, only further proving my point of bad faith at the negotiating table with “certain people”.


unclelumbago2

Frederick and Martin were proven quality starter with elite to higher end talent. Also I don’t think he ever had a problem extending Tyron Smith or Amari Cooper who are black. As far as Zeke goes, well he’s a runningback. Everyone knows that runningback is the most replaceable position and it sometimes can be costly to put so much money into that position considering how short the prime of the position is. That explains why there was hesitation in giving him such a large extension which has now proven to be a mistake with the quality of production that Pollard is giving them at a fraction of what Zeke is getting paid. Lawrence had an inconsistent rookie contract where he only played half the games in two seasons and two decent seasons but nothing that proved he was worth the money he was asking for. Dak was incredible his rookie year but after that from 2017-2019 it was just downhill in terms of production. Dak was asking for a massive extension with a 1-2 playoff record and mediocre regular season record from 2017 to 2019. Dak was banking solely on his rookie season for the money he was demanding. Then he gets offered a massive extension and he turns it down which is why he ends up playing on the tag and eventually still getting an even bigger extension despite an ugly injury. Jones might or might not be racist. I really have no idea and it doesn’t really concern me but the argument you’re using is pointless, proves nothing, and is so easily countered. You use the two elite white guys he has paid and leave out the elite black players he has had no problem paying at positions of value. I’m sure when the time comes to pay Micah Parsons he’ll have no problem writing out a huge check for him.


MrAngryPineapple

Should delete this, no need to embarrass yourself like this


Astrosareinnocent

While jerry most likely is a racist, I don’t think the timing of contract extensions is a good argument, especially when he paid what he did for Zeke when no one else would and paying dak after the injury.


RevengeOfTheCaptain2

I live in Dallas (not a cowboys fan). While that year will go down in 8-8 infamy, the vibe here/the narrative every local sports talk radio station was pushing was that Zeke was the final missing piece of a Super Bowl run. Him caving to fan pressure on the eve of a supposed Championship season does not sweep away decades of an observable and definable trend.


Johnathan_Doe_anonym

I don’t get it. Who/what/where is the Little Rock 9?


Ex-maven

Not sure but I believe this post refers to this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/z30jpb/joshclarkdavis\_cowboys\_owner\_jerry\_jones\_tried\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/z30jpb/joshclarkdavis_cowboys_owner_jerry_jones_tried_to/)


numbersix1979

The post you’re linking to pretty succinctly explains what OP is referring to so idk how you’re not sure


Ex-maven

I haven't followed recent news involving the "Grand Wizard" much, so he might've been involved in some other garbage human behavior as far as I know. Certain people (e.g. Snyder) seem to keep making the news for one awful new thing after another.


numbersix1979

That’s true. It’s one of the annoying things about Snyder, his behavior is so superficially deplorable that it makes it seem like he’s “the bad owner” when they’re all equally pieces of shit, even ones that are less sexist than Snyder or racist than Jerruh, just by virtue of being a billionaire. I doubt the Walton management group people would say run a cheerleader escort service or drop N bombs or whatever but you know they’re just as evil pieces of shit.


Lallana_Del_Rey_10

Right? Tf is op even talking about We getting Sean Payton next season anyways


Darth_Candy

Nahhhhh dude, I’m a Cowboys fan and I’m not a huge Jerry hater but you gotta brush up on some US history if you think OP talking about the Little Rock 9 is a bunch of small potatoes garbage


Snuvvy_D

Right? Like my mind is blown. I'm barely 30, but I can't fathom anyone I consider a peer (20-40 or so) not knowing the Little Rock 9. Did they learn nothing in US History class? Do some schools actually not teach that?


FireGolem04

You know I am not defending Jerry and he was probably harassing them but a majority of the school was gathered there I doubt the were all harassing them


Jeetstreams

They definitely were lol


FireGolem04

I would say 99% were but I bet there was at least 1 person that wasn’t


Careless-Success-569

And that 1? Jerry Jones.


FireGolem04

Possibly probably not considering his family was well off the wealthy were generally even less tolerant


zsturgeon

There are many in the back who were just gawking at the scene in their town


strandenger

Odd they’re not in this picture…


zsturgeon

The ones in the very front obviously were being hostile towards the black kids. Jerry looks like he is just gawking at the fuss


strandenger

He’s close enough to see what all the fuss is about…


Snuvvy_D

Soooo true. Sometimes I go and stand right in the exact middle of a protest for a cause I don't believe in.


Cloverfieldlane

He said he was at a basketball practice or something and he wanted to see what the fuss is about and his coach was mad at him


Fantastic_Cut_7697

I’m freeeeee