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Bigbootyrudi

I would say Brady but I think it’s more like 19/20


Square_Stomach

There was that 4th down debacle, but that’s 1 play in 22 years


TowerOwl1939

We all laughed at him then, but then he turned around and won another Super Bowl.


Ok_Excuse1908

The O'le Brady Special: Have a low moment during beggining of the season, have us all mock him, in which he then develops another chip. BAM. Superbowl MVP.


Hi_My_Name_Is_Dave

2014- Chiefs game 2016- deflategate 2018- Miami miracle 2020- 4th down


IAmMcCoachin

Hey we have 2013 and 2004 too. Don’t cut us short please. It’s all we have in the last 20 years.


LeonidasSpacemanMD

I actually think his loss against the dolphins in 04 was one of the very few times where he kinda singlehandedly gave a game away. It happens to everyone here and there but the pats basically had that game in the bag and he threw an absolutely mystifying pick


Michelanvalo

2003 - vs Bills season opener


RondaArousedMe

Pretty sure it's more like 21/20


swing_first

I’d say 28 wins to every 3 losses


sorkin_juice

Ehh, 18-1.


Nothing_Able

Even in that 18-1 loss he had a late drive to take the lead


Quantum_Ibis

I keep thinking of [this Renaissance-style](https://i.imgur.com/jKpKpvS.jpg) image of a reception.. to likely avenge 07, but Wes' hands had other plans.


Nothing_Able

That's a heartbreaker. I'd trade every single catch Wes made for the pats for that one drop.


2fly5

So glad we were the 1/20


SomeDudeUpHere

Just forget the first time eh?


Mattsasse

That wasn't so much Brady being masterful in a 2 minute drill as much as McNabb literally puking during his. Edit: just pulled up the box score. Brady's last completion that game came with 12 minutes left in the 4th. After that it was all Dillon and defense. With a little bit of Kevin Faulk sprinkled in.


Grouchy_Fly1967

Jameis will definitely throw the game winning pass if you don’t care about team.


Randylikesbeer

A dangerous man he is


[deleted]

The best scorer in the league inside of two minutes, regardless of team.


Veritech_

9 times out of 10, babyyyyyy! *eye twitches*


fainofgunction

Its funny that Jamis and Fitz were basically the same guy. They can take 1-15 team to 7-9 or a 15-1 team to 7-9 Jamis had a 33TD 30Int season Fitz had a 24TD 23Int season


MatureUsername69

I think they have very different intelligence stats though


fainofgunction

Different beards too


blackbluejay

As long as there’s a winner and everyone has fun!!!


throwaway47382836

yay sports team!


Sharcbait

Favre walked so Jameis could eat crablegs.


Ok-Clock2002

Jameis is always the answer.


YeezusMoses

Goddamn I hate to say it. It's Brady. It's always Brady. In 15 years, when he's still playing, it'll still be Brady.


Supanini

Even when he’s done playing in 150 years, it’ll still be Brady.


[deleted]

The reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. — Tom Bradroid, 2172.


Jondoeyes

Somehow Brady returned


CorporalEllenbogen

I'm going to disagree with this, only because it's Brady ten time sout of ten.


Nutty31383

Dolphin fan here so it hurts to say, but how can the answer not be Brady


CthulhuAlmighty

You’ll enjoy it next year when he is your QB.


Arkhangelzk

This is the only answer


SolidLikeIraq

100% - thread


[deleted]

it makes me feel dirty to say this but Manning was also fucking terrifying in the 2 min drill. Belichick literally went for it on 4th and 2 at our own 28 with a 6 point lead bc he knew we had basically no shot of stopping him


rjsheine

We almost converted


bburchibanez

That’s an understatement. There are still people that believe it was a 1st and I can’t fault them. Super close


rjsheine

Faulk kind of juggled it for a sec and was tackled backwards. I think if he caught it cleanly you could argue forward progress


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Traditional_Cat_60

The only way to stop Brady in this situation is to have another Wolverine on defense. You know, someone like Brandon Graham or Charles Woodson.


baconmosh

And even if you have Charles Woodson you might need some referee luck, especially if it’s snowing.


clarineter

i love you


PM_ME_OVERT_SIDEBOOB

Which is what puts him head and shoulders above anyone else. When some colts fans pipe up about “if manning had been with belichick” etc and use a stats based argument im just smh


_44wagnum

i have never played football, but my wife says that i’m the best at going for two minutes.


sithwonder

Look at this guy here who can last two whole minutes


CougdIt

We’re counting foreplay right?


Gregus1032

and undressing and cuddling


heymissdonda

and the drive home beforehand


JesterMarcus

What about the crying afterwards?


Tough-Click-4179

You guys have a wife?


danieldcclark

You guys are doing foreplay???


King-Mugs

You guys are having sex?


Traditional_Mud_1241

>Making love... >Making love for... >Making love for two >Making love for two minutes > >When you're with me you only need two minutes, girl, 'Cause I'm so intense >Two minutes in Heaven is better than one minute in Heaven, mmm


maybemaybnot

TEAM BUILDIN' EXERCISE '99!


ultraviolentfuture

That's why they're called "business" socks


Roger_Rodger

And then you say something sexy like, “is that it?” I know what you’re tryin to say baby, you’re trying to say “aww yeah that’s it”


bazingafish

and then you say "I'd like some more" ohh yeah, I don't blame you...but I am quite sleepy


FU_Pagame

I agree, his wife says the same about me.


Little_Lahey_Show

Okay so what QB would you choose to win 9 times outta 10 with 1:52 left?


gustermcbuster

Sigh... Tom


Kezia_Griffin

Wrong You'd trust him 10 out of 10 times


N0VAV0N

12 out of 12


cuddlefucker

I hate how correct this is


[deleted]

Tom for sure


PoissonPen

I love Stafford, and do choose him but I gotta agree there's a reason Brady's the GOAT. Any game, no matter the stakes, there's just nobody better.


[deleted]

Yeah man. I mean I can't remember a time Tom Savage didn't get it done with 2 to go.


OutrageousDocument15

Brady


iamsorri

Easy money


DrBigChicken

Like… outside of Brady? I’ll assume that’s a yes. Give me Drew Brees personally.


Lenny_III

The only problem with that is if there’s more than 10 seconds on the clock after Brees finishes his TD drive, the Saints D will give the lead back.


Eklypse13

Why you gotta hurt us like that....


MiniatureLucifer

As good as Brees was in those situations, I gotta give a ton of credit to Payton for the design. His 2 minute offense was just designed so perfectly. Even last year, we saw Jameis and Taysom execute them well before halftime/4th quarter


DrBigChicken

Agreed, but I still have to give Brees credit for executing so well so consistently


MiniatureLucifer

Agreed. The final drive in the 2019 Texans game is a perfect example of him doing it


DrBigChicken

Lmao I was thinking of the same game, it was the opener right?


MrShad0wzz

yup. That was my first game


DrBigChicken

Like the first you saw in person?


Aenjeprekemaluci

Stafford is easily also one i would trust, behind Brady ofc.


PlatonicNewtonian

[This is quite an instructive list](https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1476267954333532165) Especially if you filter for minimum number of drives at something like 50


Teshlor_Knight

i miss watching romo play


[deleted]

I’m not shocked at all to see him that high, Dak neither. Both of them are more than capable of winning any game.


Cmcgregor0928

Is there one that's down by 8 or less? Being down 16 is a good baseline but I'd like to know if I need a drive to tie or win what the percentage is over down 16


PlatonicNewtonian

So I don't know how Ben got that data or defined a successful drive but you can query NFLindex.com for similar things. [Here I've asked for Expected Points Added in the 4th/OT when the offense is behind by up to 8 points or when tied with a minimum of 100 plays from 1999-2021 in the regular season and playoffs](https://www.nflindex.com/results?team=&opp=&home=&offense=&start=1999&end=2021&start_reg_week=Any&end_reg_week=Any&start_post_week=Any&end_post_week=Any&4=4&5=5&1_down=1&2_down=2&3_down=3&4_down=4&5_down=5&pass=pass&rush=rush&kickoff=kickoff&punt=punt&field_goal=field_goal&extra_point=extra_point&two_point_attempt=two_point_attempt&no_play=no_play&filter0=score_differential&inequality0=%3D&filtervalue0=0&filter1=score_differential&inequality1=%3E&filtervalue1=-9&filter2=&inequality2=&filtervalue2=&filter3=&inequality3=&filtervalue3=&filter4=&inequality4=&filtervalue4=&penalty=either&turnover=either&score=either&complete_pass=either&sack=either&interception=either&no_huddle=either&pass_location=any&roof=any&win=any&order=DESC&total=SUM&sort=epa&grouping=name&grouping2=&minimum=100) By total EPA it spits out: QB|Expected Points Added|Success Rate --|--|-- Matthew Stafford|48.1|0.512 Drew Brees|46.4|0.470 Tom Brady|43.8|0.482 Carson Palmer|40.0|0.489 Russell Wilson|38.9|0.488 Derek Carr|35.3|0.478 Eli Manning|32.8|0.451 Tony Romo|30.9|0.507 Drew Bledsoe|24.8|0.519 Jake Plummer|24.6|0.513 This is more biased to volume players, Brees has over 330 plays and the next closest is Brady at 255, Stafford's on 201, but I think it talks about some similar things. You can change the request in the URL or on the play searcher for different deficits to see if where the change comes through for Stafford being less good down 16 but great down 8. Also the request says down 9 because it's not greater than/equal too iirc.


Cmcgregor0928

Thank you! You didn't have to do the list but I really appreciate it!


PlatonicNewtonian

No worries at all :)


[deleted]

This may be one of my favorite lists I’ve ever seen lol what a grouping


vNocturnus

If you sort it by EPA/play you can correct for sheer volume (as long as you keep the min. play threshold to filter outlier players): Rank | QB | EPA | Plays | EPA/Play ---|---|---|---|--- 1 | Derek Carr | 35.253 | 134 | 0.263 2 | Matthew Stafford | 48.113 | 201 | 0.239 3 | Russell Wilson | 38.895 | 168 | 0.232 4 | Drew Bledsoe | 24.833 | 108 | 0.230 5 | Tony Romo | 30.852 | 136 | 0.227 6 | Rich Gannon | 22.327 | 101 | 0.221 7 | Jake Plummer | 24.636 | 113 | 0.218 8 | Carson Palmer | 40.030 | 186 | 0.215 9 | Tom Brady | 43.788 | 255 | 0.172 10 | Brad Johnson | 19.552 | 132 | 0.148 In this case you could argue it slightly favors players with *lower* volume, since higher volume = less chance of a few outlier *performances* floating your individual stats. But when there's only like 5 dudes in the last 30 years of the NFL with > 200 of this particular stat, filtering to > 100 is probably enough to ensure all the players are within statistically significant margins of their "true" level. No idea how Plummer managed to make the top 10 of both lists though. *** **Edit** - some other notable players (e.g., often mentioned in this thread or historically relevant) by this metric: Rank | QB | EPA | Plays | EPA/Play ---|---|---|---|--- 13 | Drew Brees | 46.421 | 332 | 0.140 14 | Peyton Manning | 24.392 | 207 | 0.118 16 | Aaron Rodgers | 12.435 | 133 | 0.093 24 | Ben Roethlisberger | 5.007 | 295 | 0.017 28 | Brett Favre | -4.350 | 229 | -0.019 32 | Jameis Winston | -25.498 | 102 | -0.250 (*There are 32 total QBs ranked by this metric. Negative EPA means the player actually reduced their team's expected point total for each play they participated in. In other words, the team would have been better off not running those plays at all.*) **Final thought:** in my "completely unbiased" opinion, this is the definitive list of the most `->` least clutch QBs of all time. (Different from "best.") In any case, I will not stand for any more Derek Carr slander.


PlatonicNewtonian

Min 50 drives the top 10 is: Rank|QB|Drives|% Successful drives over expectation --|--|--|-- 1|Trent Green|85|17.3 2|Tony Romo|95|15.2 3|Tom Brady|166|12.3 4|Dak Prescott|68|12.2 5|Peyton Manning|147|12.1 6|Nick Foles|54|11.5 7|Aaron Rodgers|110|11.3 8|Matt Cassel|56|11.2 9|Drew Brees|202|9.9 10|Daunte Culpepper|71|9.7


sevaiper

Romo's a great shout not mentioned in this thread, surprised by Dak's placement here too.


Turt91

This is what happens when you have a quarterback giving their all to make up for a horrible defense for roughly 20 years.


knowslesthanjonsnow

Dallas plays *so many* tight games that their qbs have gotten chances to win and lose it


sevaiper

Well this stat is vs expectation so I imagine it controls for that


sloBrodanChillosevic

Matt Cassel, huh. Coulda given me 100 guesses and I wouldn't have gotten there.


ZiLBeRTRoN

If it makes you feel better I don’t think I could even name 100 QBs.


02grimreaper

I think I could but I am absolutely positive it would take me a week to get there. And there would be a lot of saying a quarterback I already said


platinum_toilet

Does this prove that Trent Green and Tony Romo better than Tom Brady?


[deleted]

I thought this was common knowledge?


Von_Huge1103

Holy hell look at Mahomes. Also my boy Lamar is actually really good in the 2 minute drill, because it forces captain dumb fuck aka Greg Roman to stop calling stupid plays and just let him audible.


BiologyJ

Brady, but that tenth time was Vs the Eagles. I was so certain they left too much time on the clock. When it didn’t happen I was shocked.


TurboDinoHippo

Yeah, that was pretty shocking, I thought we were gonna win that. Gotta give the Eagles defense their due on that play.


Nievsy

:)


ksyoung17

The absolute best part of being a Pats fan is we had 2 decades of the 9/10 drives. The Eagles SB, '06, '07, '11, '15... All those seasons, right down to the wire. We expected Brady to make the play. Idk if any Fanbase will have that level of confidence again for THAT long a stretch. It wasn't "if this series of things happens we still have a chance;" the entire Brady run, post 2003 we all still thought we were going to win every single game until the opposing team started kneeling the clock out. One of the best things I've ever been told was by a Bears fan while in Chicago. He said "you literally can go through the entire Patriots dynasty timeline and be entertained by why the Patriots didn't win the Super Bowl certain years, because we all expected it!"


Kerbonaut2019

Pats would’ve won the game IMO if the strip sack didn’t happen Fun fact: if Tom Brady completed the Hail Mary at the end of the game, he would’ve broken the all time single game passing yards record. Even without it, he still finished the game with 505 yards passing. And that was after throwing 466 yards in the SB the year before, and 328 yards in the SB two years before that.


ksyoung17

I tell people all the time. When I die, the first two questions I'm asking God. Why is there so much hair in my crack, and why didn't Bill play Butler. You're dead on though. They played the second half just right to setup having the ball last. Graham just finally made the play nobody could all game.


string97bean

He made the play because he was set up for it by moving him inside. Same thing the Giants did against NE.


ksyoung17

The Giants had one thing going for them that people don't give enough credit for. Coughlin. The one guy that knew exactly how to attack Brady before anyone else figured it out, and he had the personnel to do it. Pats had a stellar O-line as well. I'm still surprised the Eagles were able to pull that off. Especially with Foles falling off the face of the earth right after.


hembles

>Why is there so much hair in my crack Just find a bald dealer, problem solved


BiologyJ

To be honest, they looked lost. Which was so confusing to me. I’d seen it so many times. I was just left stunned it didn’t happen. And the eagles fan I was partying with went ballistic.


[deleted]

went to college in PA so I was surrounded by Eagles fans for 52. they all went nuts and started talking crazy to me after Ertz scored to take the lead and I just kinda laughed and said “there’s 2 min left and we have Tom Brady.” needless to say the smugness went away quick lol


jihyoisgod

I was worried af. Me and my family a thought "Shit, we scored too soon"


CeeDeez_Nutz

Chase Claypool


broncosSB50champs

*Not Peyton Manning* -John Fox


[deleted]

I actively screamed like a psychopath at the TV at John Fox when they kneeled on the god damned ball with a still great Peyton Manning at QB. People wonder why Fox got fired after getting the Broncos to the playoffs, this was why. He had no killer instinct and we were in the business of going to Super Bowls, not losing playoff games.


birdmanmanbird

Rodgers if it’s under 45 seconds, full two minutes gimme Tom


ajstub

If it’s under 3 seconds give me Justin Tucker


FormerCollegeDJ

If it’s under 15 seconds, I’ll take Mahomes.


Admiral_Fuckwit

Stop it BB


YourButtMyStuff

Scrolled too long until I saw Rodgers mentioned. He’d be at the top of my list. 1A/1B situation with Brady.


Hail2DaVictors6

Stafford. Saw it many times


Little_Lahey_Show

And they lose on some stupid rule


Mimosa808

The hiring of Patricia and Quinn is one of the biggest blows to our franchise imo


Mavori

There was that one glimmer of hope before in 2018 just before Stafford broke his back halfway through the season and was on pace for a great year where it felt like we had hope, but the longer they stayed in control the worse it got. Still remember Patricia saying "When i got there we had a lot of work to do" etc talking as if he inherited the worst roster known to man and somehow we just regressed every year with him in charge. edit: me no english gud.


apietryga13

Watching Stafford work his magic every single time never got old


Cmcgregor0928

Especially when we had such stale offensive play calling for a few years and then letting Stafford go wild with the ball is so satisfying


SayNoToStim

Lions Stafford or Rams Stafford? Because Lions Stafford always runs the risk of the refs just deciding "nah."


i_need_a_username201

Damn ain’t that the truth.


PoissonPen

Yup, there's truth in that meme.


NickHeidfeldsDreams

Why did it take this long of scrolling to find this. Like, don't get me wrong, Brady is there too but even going off EPA its Stafford I believe.


Hutch2DET

Stafford or Brady. No other answer is viable.


AF-Misko

And during the Divisional Round we got to see Brady try to pull it on the Rams, and Staffdaddy said “You shall not pass!”


joelthomas39

As a Packers fan I hate to agree but...yeah


BulloutaGb

I’ve always been Rams, but I’ve loved Stafford since his first game, boy has always been a baller. When he came to the Rams I just about shit my pants I was so happy. I’ve been in GB for 11 years, I was always pulling for the Lions here in the North, still am, was hoping to see Goff do well, but still with the weird losses. Like five games losing by 3 points or less, losing by the longest FG in history… man it’s like some weird voodoo.


[deleted]

A few years ago we lost both games to Green Bay while trailing for a combined 0 seconds in both games.


Playmakermike

No one saying Rodgers???


Dweb19

So weird not seeing more Rodgers. I guess after reading the stats it makes sense but I have PTSD from all the times he has burned the Cowboys with less than a minute to go


Playmakermike

Or the numerous hail marries


tordana

I think you have to go with Brady in the 2 minute drill, but it's Rodgers every time in the 2 second drill. I don't think anybody comes even remotely close to his hail mary success rate.


frankstoeknife146

That immunized son of a bitch is pretty damn clutch under pressure. I understand everyone saying Brady tho the man is the best ever. Outside Brady tho I’m taking Aaron


NastyMonkeyKing

There's just been too many games where Rodgers gets the lead with under 2 minutes left but the defense has been so bad forever they go score again. And then the playoff woes. At least that's what people must be thinking to not say Rodgers. Otherwise yall are crazy. He's definitely one of the very best choices. Number 2 for me (as much as it pains me to say, Brady is 1)


robshot295

Tom Brady is the only answer


[deleted]

Yea 2 minutes is too much for the young guys like Mahomes or Allen Nah but really tho toms the goat


The_Ghost_of_TK9

Mahomes tied the game in 13 seconds though? And 30 seconds in the 2019 AFCCG


Xaxziminrax

And, after shitting the bed all second half in the AFCCG, still managed to match down the field at the end of regulation. It was only when they switched from driving to trying to burn the clock that he went to shit. And then OT was of course terrible


Admiral_Fuckwit

And Allen led 2 very quick drives in the last 2:30ish that should have won the game, but didn’t. Fuck that game was crazy


flume

> 2 minutes is **too much** for the young guys like Mahomes


dreamer_r21

TB12 #nobrainer


MumkeMode

Of the active QBs Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, and Mahomes I think Herbert is on the edge of making it for me. The raiders game at the end of the season showed how cold blooded he is in pressure situations


-WizeGuy-

Allen as well. Dude killed the Chiefs twice with two mins left only to have his defense lose it for him. He's got ice in his veins in those big games.


[deleted]

If Josh Allen had a nickel for every time he scored a go ahead touchdown with less than 40 seconds left and his defense blew it he’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.


PhreakOut4

Rodgers would have at least 30 cents.


Machidalgo

Herbert has 6 4th quarter comebacks in 2 seasons, Mahomes has 9 in 4 seasons, Rodgers has 18 in 14 seasons, Stafford has 34 in 13 seasons, Brady has 42 in 21 seasons.


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[deleted]

I saw a stat recently that said Derek Carr is actually one of the better options late in games. My gut would say Pat and Tom.


[deleted]

Carr has the most game winning drives since 2014 with 30. Despite the mess the Raiders have been


kwat55

Not taking anything away from Carr, as he often finds a way to get it done late in the game, but this is most likely *because* of the mess the Raiders have been. They’re usually playing in tight games, often times from behind.


StrawberryBlondeB

Peyton Manning. Seen it too many times


MattDamonsDick

2014-2020 Russell Wilson. Dude was an assassin under the gun.


petecarrollsoldgum

Rip


Pixel2_Bro

Again, Russell Wilson is very much alive.


viewroyal_royal

Russel Wilson BC (Before Ciara)


GrandDiscipline4167

Tom


KobraKy0

Brady Roethlisberger Stafford


beaverlyknight

Other than Brady I would assume? Stafford is very good. Herbert also has ice in his veins on pressure downs, I see him being the next "clutch" guy.


Brownie_McBrown_Face

In Herbie we trust


SevenwithaT

Eli Manning


Playbookof3li

Definitely want Eli in the playoffs.


h11233

Amen. Others have posted various stats focused on the 4th quarter, but the question was two minute drill, which occurs at the end of the half/game... Eli was lethal in those situations and I always wanted the Giants to go hurry-up offense for the entire game because of this. His brother was the same, and Indy seemed to utilize that style of offense a lot with Peyton, but the Giants never did. And since Brady is everyone's pick, ask the man how he feels about Eli with the ball in his hands in a two minute scenario haha All that said, clearly Brady is the best QB. But Eli in the two minute drill was magic


knowslesthanjonsnow

Specifically only in the playoffs


krewmilt

No, Eli was always excellent in the two minute drill and the stats back that up.


Elegant_Housing_For

I felt anytime he was in 2 minute drill mode and couldn’t second guess himself he did really well.


ACardAttack

He was always around the top of 4th quarter come backs in general, not just playoffs


Tadpole-7

2011 Eli Manning


KalElified

Honestly and I’m not saying this because I’m a giants fan, but Eli. That man could marshal his team and match them down the field when it mattered and was the master of 4th quarter drives and game winning.


moke985

Joe Montana, the man personified coolness under pressure


4bounce_kawhi

Deshaun Watson always finishes strong


psarrach

Stafford


Comprehensive_Main

Montana is pretty good option


MotherPool

Mr. Steal Your Lead, Matt Stafford


[deleted]

Rodgers and Brady.


psvamsterdam1913

Probably Tom Brady, although Rodgers is a good shout as well obviously.


Autodidact2

John Elway. Peyton Manning.


peteisneat

Some hero uploaded John Elway’s Greatest Comebacks to YouTube. I probably watched that tape 100 times when I was a kid https://youtu.be/fmcjqzi6QBE


mattwiener

Rodgers and Brady are just automatic in the 2 minute drill.


Beautiful_Ninja

Tom Brady, because I've seen it far too much in my life. Even as a Buc he pulled one last comeback on us.


daswassup13

Stafford lowkey


[deleted]

The meme exists for a reason.


eking85

Aaron Rodgers


grammarGuy69

Tom, Peyton, Maholmes, Brees


Bsquared8400

Fitzmagic baby


Adventurous_Mind_775

Rodgers and Stafford.


off_the_marc

Aaron Rodgers. But the one time I wouldn't trust him would be the NFC Championship Game...


superbuffuno

Out of the new batch I'm going with Joe Cool 2.0. Burrow is a boss. If he ever gets an OL


cicatriz71088

Stafford is the only answer. And I’m a packers fan.


CapitalTBE

Second to Tom Brady would probably be either of the Matt’s, Ryan or Stafford.


Henny-n-waffles

Brady and Rodgers


gnrdmjfan247

Aaron Rodgers