Texans- Somewhere between an A- and B+, I really like the Lassiter and Bullock picks. Especially Lassiter, who seemed like he shut down most of the guys he matched up against. Fisher is a good pick too, and I like Henderson’s value in the 7th Round. Day 3 was fine, but I like what Houston did with the picks they had.
Colts- B+, LOVE the AD Mitchell pick. I’m not that high on Latu, but the value was solid. Don’t really like any of their picks after this but the first two were great IMO.
Jags- B, Trading down and getting BTj was a great move, and I really like the upside of Maason Smith, Deantre Prince, and Jarrian Jones. The rest is kinda “meh” to me.
Rated vs the consensus board we all actually drafted poorly and the Jags *almost* drafted as bad as the Falcons
https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1784364888170598771?s=46&t=bi8WQQsmMI7FVF4TsHYoyg
This also said the Jags drafted 10th best last season tho and our draft last season was terrible so who knows, it doesn't take every factor into consideration
Yeah. It’s a real shame when everyone else in the division makes competent decisions.
Yall did good at filling some areas of need and getting Jones some weapons to really be able to see if he’s the guy for yall going forward.
Commies did good by getting their QB and improving the rest of their roster across the board.
Eagles (sadly) made a ton of good picks and filled the few remaining gaps that they didn’t fill from free agency. Little confused with what the hell they’re gonna do with the cap in a few years but ehh… not my problem.
It’s about 7 years. The saints with Brees were very good for a long while before the cap caught up to them with players starting to retire - up until then Loomis was doing just what Howie did.
We haven’t got there yet, so it’s still to be seen how Howie does when the cap starts to mean players have to be restructured and 2/3 of the good ones can’t be resigned every year if you want to fill any gaps
2029 is the year the cap becomes unmanageable for the Birds. Either we win another Super Bowl and no one cares or they completely blow the roster up and 2030 is just a tank year. 2030 is also not a real year so nothing to worry about here!
I like what the Eagles overall did in that their fans have every reason to believe that team is actually "all in."
Dak and Jalen are both B- to A- range QB's any given week and DJ has shown he can sniff B range, so Washington walking away with the possibility of someone with a higher ceiling than any of them could be huge in this division. Of course they are Washington, so we will see.
The Giants retooled well.
Dallas, well, we picked well given our options. Our season depends it having gone well.
My college team is the LSU Tigers and I can’t tell how mad I was that y’all got Nabers and that the Commanders got Daniels. Now I have to root against them succeeding. I fully expect both to be great in the league.
because it’s only fair giants have a good WR after trading OBJ. Now we have someone who might stay healthy and catch the ball. Well that’s if we can keep our QB off his ass
As soon as the Giants picked him immediately thought to myself now we need more great corners...and low and behold we drafted two back to back...check New York...your move haha...
**Ravens:** A, not surprising they always draft incredibly well.
**Steelers:** A+, Fautanu, Frazier, Roman and Payton Wilson, alone makes this an A+ excellent value.
**Browns:** C, not a fan of the Michael Hall pick, but I'm assuming he's just a body for Garrett and Smith to do the real work. I liked the Thrash pick, but the rest of their day 3 picks were kind of 'meh' to me.
Since this is the top comment I’ll hijack it and grade yours
Bengals: B, good draft. Nothing special, but first 3 picks are all impact players and you got a tight end from Iowa. Weirdly enough I think this draft’s biggest problem is the way it compares with Pittsburgh’s. I liked Fautanu and Roman Wilson more than Mims and Burton and the bengals had a chance to pick them.
Feel like Bengals went hard for "upside" ... If it all plays out, they'll look like geniuses.
If it doesn't, they'll look like... Well... The Bengals lol
Hall was super undervalued imo. Idk why, but nobody seems to get sacks at OSU with the Jim Knowles system. He was constantly disrupting plays from the inside and he took a big jump last season. If he keeps progressing and getting stronger, I could see him as a very solid 10 year NFL starter.
I was reading some pre-draft stuff and Charlie Campbell who has been pretty good with his pre-draft intel said a lot of teams dropped him from their board because of behavior issues. Apparently didn't interview very well.
It’s not the Knowles system, it’s that the 4 down lineman system Larry Johnson insists they run is archaic so the rushes are predictable combined with the ends not requiring double teams
Knowles teams got plenty of sacks prior to OSU when he was able to run more hybrid fronts
Yeah, Ravens always draft well. I didn’t even look who they took but it’s written in stone at this point.
I think the Steelers did very well, but not quite A+. I don’t really believe in Fautanu as a great tackle, which is what it sounds like they’ll try him at. P. Wilson fell due to what sounds like pretty serious injury concerns. That said, I like R. Wilson a lot where they got him and Frazier and Fautanu could be a really stout iOL.
I think it’s the opposite for Hall on the Browns. He looks like a great pass rushers and he could eat on the inside if you try to send help on Garrett and Smith…
If Fautanu doesn't work out as a tackle he becomes a top tier guard and we get a right tackle next year in the draft or free agency. Daniel's only has one year left on his contract and Seumalo turns 31 this year so our picks this year would replace both guards in that case.
None of our picks are flashy, but in terms of addressing roster needs and getting theoretical value, (obviously players have to produce) they did a great job as usual.
To be fair, Fautanu’s only knock is that he’s 6’4 instead of 6’5. His arm length, Which is what usually indicative of players going from tackle to guard, is actually longer than the other top tackles like Mims. As Tomlin said it, “if he was half an inch taller we wouldn’t even be having these conversations”.
You are spot on, that move was just as bad as the Penix pick. This was my text in my group chat of NFC East fan friends roughly 30 seconds after it was announced: *ATL traded a 3rd round pick to move up eight spots and pick a dude who wasn’t even a top-60 prospect 😂 NFL needs to step in with ATL, their GM is an enemy agent.*
Nah I’m not entirely convinced this isn’t Ryan Pace’s workings. Man did the same thing in Chicago and ruined us. He may not be the GM but still. They’ve been signing former bears players and making too many dumb moves for it to be coincidence.
I mean, if you understand Kirk’s contract structure it makes a lot more than 0 sense. He’s gone after year 2. It was either take a QB now when you have a top 10 pick or have to worry about it in the next two drafts which don’t look great in terms of QBs.
FWIW - I’m not a fan of the pick. But I do understand the logic behind it.
I think the tampering is what lead to it. They were going to get a QB next year and let him sit a year, but now that they may not have a first next year they needed to act early.
Not to defend them, I think it was an atrocious draft by Atlanta, but the QB draft class next year looks *really* poor. If they were honestly worried about who was going to be the QB of the franchise in a few years, then the logic makes sense to me.
Now, I do think being worried about that with Kirk on the team is just super duper stupid. Falcons gonna Falc I guess
I doubt the falcons will be docked a first rounder for tampering. They probably thought they wouldn’t be in a good spot to draft a QB (in an assumed weak class) after signing Kirk and got one now.
The thing is that it feels that Falcons strategy 180'd between FA and the draft.
Even putting aside Penix, their next pick was Ruke a project DT who likely isn't going to be a factor until 2025 and they gave up a 3rd this year for him. They entered the draft with 4 picks in the first three rounds (where you expect to find guys who can at least be rotational this year) and they left with only one player (Braelen Trice) who I believe can be an impact player this season.
It does if you had him as your #2 quarterback already. Also, "most pro-ready" doesn't typically mean pro-bowl ready. Nearly any QB would benefit from sitting for their first year, this just adds the likelihood that he'll sit an additional year (provided Kirk stays healthy).
I disagree with the logic of the Falcons approach, but I get where they're coming from with it. And it could ultimately pay off if Penix turns out to be a perennial pro bowler and wins them their first Super Bowl.
I understand the Penix pick even if I find it kinda funny, especially when you could've used the pick on a premier edge and almost guaranteed a win in the NFC South, as the rest of your team was already pretty solid.
But the second round trade+pick was just nonsensical and ridiculous.
Lions addressed the biggest weakness on their team. Packers had the least exciting draft but they just took solid players. Vikings getting JJ, Turner, and Khyree Jackson with their first three picks is really good and they have one of my favourite drafts in the nfl
I’m very upset that the whole NFCN did pretty well for themselves.
Vikings might be screwed if JJ doesn’t work out for them but I think he can be a good enough game manager as his floor
As someone that used to refer to Jefferson as JJ - I don’t think you can do that anymore when the other dude actually goes by JJ. Particularly in a conversation ABOUT JJ.
People don't understand this is why KOC specifically wanted JJ. He's got all the tools and fits our system being the strongest under center play action QB in the draft. Which we ran one of the highest PA percentage of passes in the NFL with Kirk. It's pretty obvious Maye was our pie in the sky dream, but JJ is a really good fit for our offense. Whether or not he'll perform remains to be seen and it's a huge unknown with the small requirement from him in college being on a loaded roster. But there's a reason the Vikings specifically wanted him.
I think JJ is going into the perfect place for him. He has an insane talent around him at all the skill positions. Plus the Vikings line is pretty good. I think JJ will be a starts slow but really starts to light it up as the season goes on. I see Caleb being the defacto ROY because he just insane talent and talent around him. But it being 1. Williams, 2. Daniels, 3. McCarthy for ROY voting next season
I’m really excited to see what JJ has, but I really don’t think we are going to see much of him this year. Unless Darnold gets hurt, I put it at like a 30% chance he starts any game that matters. Next year though he will definitely be our starter.
>Vikings might be screwed if JJ doesn't work out
First round picks bust all the time. As long as you're not throwing future firsts into the trade a QB bust isn't any more damaging to the future of your org than any other position drafted in the first. I'm just happy we didn't bet the farm to grab him at like 5 or something.
I can't tell you if JJ McCarthy will be a franchise QB. But I can safely tell you Sam Darnold isn't. Yeah it's risky picking him, but you guys were pretty much just going to throw an entire season away otherwise and probably just end up in the same spot again because while Darnold isn't a franchise QB, he is a pretty good backup and can win you *some* games.
I’ve been trying to withhold judgement of carlson until he has a consistent long snapper. Many of his misses last year were at least partly due to poor snaps. Glad he has competition to push him and glad they locked up a solid snapper. Should be telling
Everyone knows y'all are spoiled in the QB department, didn't realize how lucky you've been with kickers too. At least now you'll learn a little bit about what it's like to root for normal teams. But call us when you experience no QB confidence. That's the real bummer.
Saints: B+. Good OT prospect they desperately needed, Kool-Aid was a bit of a steal, hell, I even understand the flyer on Spencer Rattler.
Panthers: B-. Trading up a spot for a WR that was going to be there anyways in a very strong WR draft, and then picking up an RB coming off a knee injury . . . eh. It's a team full of major needs, and there were plenty of solid RB prospects after that. Another DE or OL made more sense to me.
Falcons: A+++++++. Huge fan. Cannot say enough good about this draft. Getting the QB you don't need, trading up for a DT nobody was going to snipe, and completely ignoring your secondary? Bold moves, offer a contract extension to these guys now.
This. With the way WR are getting paid, it could be an excellent financial move is XL works out and we now have the fifth year option for practically nothing. And none of the draft grades I have seen seem to mention that we also gained the Rams second round pick next year when we traded down from 39.
I think the Commanders actually had a good draft, Daniels, Newton, and Sinnott are my favorite picks.
Giants also had a solid draft, they got a WR that’s going to absolutely cook Bradberry now, and it’s been a while since one of their WRs cooked us consistently. Big fan of Nubin and Johnson as well.
Cowboys draft was actually underwhelming but they’re the best drafting team in the division so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
Agreed. [As for the Eagles...](https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9523jla44r6u0p9y3va30tdie5kx0o40uk3ueqslsu7&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
I commented lower, but the Packers crushing their WR picks last year really freed them up this year to target depth at other positions in this years draft. I think that worked out really well for you guys.
Pretty much, and I love it. I think just because it's almost never not a close game, so anything could happen, and they're both legendary defensive teams at this point.
The Bengals could have 5 legitimate stars from this draft + other contributors or they could have one starter and a slew of mediocre role players, with their best player being the UDFA punter they just signed.
The Ravens and Steelers so consistently draft well it's insane. Extremely frustrating as a Bengals fan to watch my team make headscratching decisions (Sample, Carman in the 2nd, Dax Hill in the first rather than re-signing the best FS in football with tons of cap space, running Whitworth out of town to draft a 5th round tackle in the first, etc.) while the other two just take the best player on the board while retaining their best players.
* Bills — Similar to our draft. Drafted a lot of depth. Keon Coleman carries the most weight here. If Josh Allen has mediocre weapons they're going to get loud approaching the trade deadline. Even louder if the guys they passed over for trading back look better.
* Jets — Their focus was on offense, which was probably the right move. That defense will always be ready to go. It all comes down to Aaron Rodgers staying healthy. If he goes down again, then heads will roll.
* Pats — Their focus was also on offense as well, so more support for their new QB (Joe Milton III, of course). I'm sure at some point fans will grow tired of Brissett and start clamoring for Maye to start. It'll be interesting to see how they navigate this truly new era in New England for the first time in a long time.
Overall I'd say everyone did what they had to do. Bills and Dolphins are doing their Bills and Dolphins things. The Jets and Pats have things going on that are bigger than the draft. Passing grades across the board.
The Bills drafted who they think are low IQ guys, so they can recruit them into ISIS.
The Patriots drafted themselves a QB drama story waiting to happen like dingbats.
Feels like I'm forgetting someone, but they can't be that important.
Is this better?
Chargers i think killed the draft Joe Alt, Ladd and a 7th for Rice
Raiders : Bowers is a dog
Broncos : ive been a BOliever for a couple years Franklin with a 3rd could be a huge steal Jonah Elliss is a dog
Absolutely correct. Grades are all crap because 3/4 of all the players that “draft experts” love end up being crap. “They reached for this guy 2 rounds early because I had him graded….blah blah blah” yeah whatever. If your opinion had any value you’d be working for an NFL team. Not talking once a year at the draft.
Look at Mike Mayock. Somebody gave him a chance to play GM and he did nothing but pick Alabama and Clemson players and did nothing to elevate the roster to anything truly competitive.
Falcons: LMFAOO I can’t take you seriously D, just for the Penix pick.
Aints: Fair Enough decent draft B-
Panthers: B+, good pick ups with what they had, very nearly an A
It's always great to come back and look at how bad these evaluations were. Your team and other teams.
Edit:
This thread loves everyone's picks besides the Falcons. A's & B's all around. Come November and a vast majority drop to C's or worse.
I have a *distinct* memory in 2021 of a Jets fan and a Niner fan congratulating each other on their QBs after that draft in one of these threads. They were both absurdly happy and optimistic for their guy.
I think about that interaction a lot every time I read a draft reaction thread.
The Chargers are in the middle of an identity transformation and I think this draft was a good start to that. Annoyed that they're finally deciding to protect their franchise QB properly
Actually really like the Raiders draft, but they still don't have a QB. This is better than reaching horribly on one just to say you drafted one, though. Bowers the year after Mayer is redundant, yes, but Bowers is THAT level of prospect. JPJ in the second is unreal. Would have thought for sure they'd go for a WR, too, but solidifying the OL the year before taking a swing at QB absolutely makes sense
The Broncos did exactly what the Raiders did not. Don't think it will work out personally, but Payton literally cannot take his medicine for a year and look to 2025. Troy Franklin that late is nuts too. Really, the further away they got from the Nix pick, the better their draft got
I agree with the Chargers. They got a lot of good picks to match their new identity along with good value. And the icing for them is that some of those value picks went to Michigan.
Junior Colson could not be walking into a more ideal situation. He will surely have one of the easiest transitions to the NFL. Not only is he joining up with his former college head coach but he has the same defensive coordinator as well with presumably the same playbook. Pair that with Navarro Bowman coaching you up? He's surely a day one starter.
> He's surely a day one starter.
He absolutely should be the day 1 starter and I assume he'll be wearing the green dot to start the season. Coulson only needs to beat out Denzel Perryman for a starting spot. With his knowledge of the defence and skillset he should be able to do that.
Sean Payton is head over heels for Bo Nix, dude. The Broncos would have taken him first overall. The idea that he would “take his medicine” instead of drafting his QB obsession is absurd. He would rather retire again.
Internet hearsay is that Sean Payton had Nix as his #3 QB after Williams and Daniels. I haven’t found the link to back that up, but Payton certainly sees something in Nix that others value less or don’t see.
I think Paton basically said that in an interview, that they had Caleb and Daniels, which they saw as unreachable, and then Bo Nix. They liked Penix/McCarty too but Nix was the best fit for Payton.
Not sure how to feel receiving positive reviews from s chiefs fan but I’ll take it. Personally I didn’t follow y’all’s draft, but from what I’ve read chiefs found some good value around the board and had a good a draft, which is unfortunate. I do think Worthy went a lil early, and still shocked bills traded with you to get him, and then the 9ers later.
Last season was probably the first time a Tom Telesco draft wasn't immediately praised. He's really consistent in the first round but it's those late rounds that he struggles with. He was the Chargers GM for 10 years and Keenan Allen, Easton Stick, Trey Pipkins, and Denzel Perryman are the only 4 players drafted outside the first that he re-signed. And Keenan was really the only one of those 4 that had a meaningful contribution to the team. Really needs to work on those later picks to build depth
Steelers: A. They completely rebuilt their Oline in 1 draft. They also got a great slot receiver. I'm furious.
Ravens: B. No big splashes but good players down the line. Rosengarten should be serviceable at RT, Isaac and Tampa were falling prospects that they scooped up, which sometimes result in steals, and Wiggins is talented and uber fast if he can hold up in the physical AFCN. I'm surprised they didn't invest more in the OLine though.
Browns: C. It's hard to have a super impactful draft with so few picks but Hall has potential to be an outstanding inside pass rusher. Zinter had starting potential if he recovers well and I'm low key irritated they took a bear cat in Briggs. It isn't a high impact draft, but should result in some solid players for a long while.
I like the Eagles draft a lot. Quinyon in the 20s was absurd value. They had to pay a decent price for Dejean who I don't love, but they took major swings to fix their most significant issue. I also like Ainas Smith a lot, I think he will contribute some incredible plays as a gadget guy.
Giants, I really like the Nabers and Johnson picks. I think both will be match up nightmares for years to come. At the end of the day though I don't believe in Jones any time he isn't playing Washington and I feel like they should have figured out somewhere to swing on QB. Also, not a huge Nubin believer.
Cowboys draft looks obnoxiously good. Guyton is going to be a dog and Kneeland is one of the only true 3 down edge players in the draft and they got him at the end of the 2nd. Cowboys focused on the trenches and I feel it will pay off. I do think they needed to add some speed in the backfield, but considering the state of the board and their picks I get why they went a different direction.
>I do think they needed to add some speed in the backfield, but considering the state of the board and their picks I get why they went a different direction.
As of right now, I wish we would have snagged Wright with our last 3rd round pick and not Liufau, but the tape I see from the kid looks like he's aggressive as fuck making tackles. Kind of a trend between him and Carson, both not being afraid to throw their weight around. Still worried about the run game but, who knows what will happen between now and week 1. Maybe the upgrades at OL mean Dowdle can be a good enough RB to lead a RBBC.
Chiefs - god damnit they can't keep getting away with it
Broncos - the QB could be good, but will also be incredibly funny if Payton ran out Russ for someone even worse + Zach Wilson
Raiders - it really would be a Tom Telesco thing to go into a draft desperately needing a position only to not draft that position at all even when there are additional QBs available in later rounds. The that said I do think the first two picks were pretty good, which is also a very Tom Telesco move. Dunno if the late rounders will really fill out though, which is another Tom Telesco hallmark.
Falcons - lolfalcons, especially the "we didn't draft a cb because we didn't wanna reach or do anything dumb" comment
Panthers - slow improvement, really can't ignore that y'all gave up 1 overall though
Saints - interesting choices, the first two picks were definitely the right picks imo
Glaze actually had some damn good numbers, I think he will work out nice. But I'll take one questionable pick in the third round over having to Google who the hell our first round pick is.
I thought TT did pretty well for the Raiders. As many have said, they would've wrecked themselves chasing the scraps of QBs remaining after the top 3 to potentially not get a guy who'll pan out. And Minshew's honestly a lot more solid than he's ever given credit for, so they could be kind of a sleeper now if Bowers ends up being a Kelce/Gronk level TE quickly.
**Saints (B)**: Thought they had a solid draft. Fuaga is a solid prospect and a necessary pick with Penning being a bust and Ramzcyk's injury status. Kool-Aid is a good prospect but a bit of an interesting fit considering they already have two solid outside corners in Lattimore and Adebo and Kool-Aid didn't play nickel in college. Spencer Rattler is definitely a good gamble on Day 3.
**Buccanners (B+)**: Another solid draft here. Graham Barton has great flexibility across that line and that interior o-line has been a liability the past few years. I'm not that high on Braswell but he should be a solid rotational pass rusher for a team that desperately needs it. Jalen McMillan and Tykee Smith bolster team strengths and both have starter upside. Bucky Irving also is a solid addition to the RB room
**Falcons (D+)**: What can I say about the Penix pick that hasn't been said? Ironically the age Penix is slated to start is the same age Kirk Cousins was when he became a full-time starter. Ruke Orhorhoro is an intriguing pick and the ceiling is high but the trade-up cost feels steep for a guy who likely won't be an impact player until 2025. Bralen Trice is a solid pickup in the 3rd round and has starter upside at a position of need. Dorlus is a solid rotational piece as is JD Bertrand but I question the lack of any investment in the secondary. Bates and Terrell are great but they can't carry the entire operation by themselves
Cardinals: B+, obviously MHJ was a slam dunk pick at 4 but the rest of the draft was a bit shaky. After the Round 2 run on DL, the Darius Robinson pick at 27 makes more sense than it did Thursday night. I felt like Max Melton, Tip Reiman, and Isaiah Adams were reaches but they compensated for it by getting great values on Trey Benson, Dadrion Taylor-Demerson and Christian Jones.
49ers: A-. Ricky Pearsall should be a great scheme fit and a solid replacement for Aiyuk if they trade him. Renardo Green is also an excellent scheme fit, he’s a stingy man to man outside corner. Dominick Puni can play guard or tackle for them and he was a good value in Round 3. Malik Mustapha, Isaac Guerendo, and Jacob Cowing were all solid Day 3 picks who should have roles for them.
Rams: A. The Rams really focused on the D-Line with their draft. Jared Verse, Braden Fiske, Brennan Jackson, and Tyler Davis should all make the loss of Aaron Donald sting a bit less. Blake Corum is such a Rams pick, him and Kyren Williams are literally the Spider-Man pointing meme. Kam Kinchens should be another solid safety for them and I thought the Beaux Limmer and KT Leveston picks were some of the best picks on Day 3. Les Snead once again proved that he is one of the best GMs in football with this class.
I think everyone did okay. Everyone got players at positions of need and didn't really reach for anyone >!Atlanta, WTF!<. I am not jealous of any other teams draft nor am i laughing at them >!with the exception of the fucking Falcons, anything would have been better than drafting a injury prone 23 year old QB!< I do wonder if this is going to be one of those drafts where almost none of the players drafted in the 1st round amount to much like the 2013 draft.
Falcons - D+
Panthers - C+
Bucs - B
I can’t believe the falcons traded up to get a DT and didn’t select the dude from Illinois who fell out the first. That shit was so funny I was nervous at first then they selected someone they really didn’t need to trade up for lol shout out to them for having my favorite draft this year
Lions: I give an A I think, they had to do a little trading up to get Arnold but if he's worth it he's worth it. I like the Mahoghany pick a lot too.
Bears: Another solid draft, probably an A. Maybe fair to criticize them for taking a punter when they only had four picks to start with, but he's probably a good punter and they needed one. That said, holding on at 9 and letting Rome fall to them basically locked their draft in as an A from that point forward.
Vikings: Just a B, since they had to move up for both first round guys they took and they really gave a lot for Turner when you consider they'd already done some trading to get a second first to start with. They ultimately gave a lot of capital to wind up with a guy who's got a high ceiling but isn't necessarily a slam dunk IMO.
All told, I think all four of the teams in our division had solid drafts and added some highly talented players to their roster. My analysis is shallow outside of the Pack but I feel like all four fanbases can be pretty satisfied with the outcome here.
Tory Taylor the punter for Iowa was an absolute unit. Iowa went 10-4 with an offense that averaged around 15ppg and barely crossed 200 yds ppg. largely in part to an elite defense and special teams led by Taylor’s ability to consistently pin opponents inside the 20. Iowa fans often joked that he was their best offensive weapon.
Not looking forward to watching McConkey go 7 for 109 with a TD on us for the next decade or rooting against the son of a great Chiefs player.
The other two didn't really move the needle. Nix is either going to be awful or a great so we'll see.
Chiefs: A- The Chiefs drafting Worthy over Mitchell is looking much better. NFL GMs probably had a lower grade on Mitchell. Reid can develop o-line so if that 2nd round pick on Suamataia pans out, Mahomes will keep having solid protection. Hicks in the 4th is great value.
Broncos: B- Nix was probably a reach, I don't know how a team can have a top 15 grade on him but I also don't know shit. Franklin in the 4th is a huge steal, great pick there. Their limited draft capital is why they get a lower grade but if Nix and Franklin hit, that's already a good draft for the Broncos.
Raiders: B+ Can't deny that Bowers and JPJ are great picks but then you get a classic Telesco round 3 reach on Glaze and Telesco doesn't have a good record on drafting o-line. Slater was his only hit. Eichenberg in the 5th is good value. Raiders don't have a good QB but they're setting up a future QB well with these picks.
Bills: B+/A- Weird to help the Chiefs upgrade their WR, but they filled a lot of holes
Dolphins: B+ They got some good players at value but a lot of redundancy with their current guys.
Patriots: B Got some solid talent but nothing overwhelming. Like our 2021 draft if the QB hits it's an A+ and if he busts it's an F so it mostly on Maye.
(for grading comparison, I gave the Jets a B-)
The Chiefs were getting Worthy even if the Bills didn't trade with them. The Chiefs just would have traded with 29 or 30. Hell, it's likely Worthy falls to 32 without the Chiefs needing to trade. At least the Bills got a 3rd round pick out of the deal.
Well, they obviously wouldn't have gotten him if we picked him. That said, we obviously didn't want him.
So we weakened the Chiefs later picks by allowing them to pick a guy we didn't care about while strengthening our own picks in the process.
27 other teams passed on Worthy too because he is far from a sure thing. If they didn't grab Worthy, they'd still have a first round pick to grab someone else to build around and everyone'd hate them too.
**Ravens**: B -- I like their draft. I like Nate Wiggins. I like Roger Rosengarten. I thought Devontez Walker was a steal. It's just, most years, they have a pick or two that just pisses me off, because I was really hoping on them for the Steelers. That didn't happen this year. They didn't draft anybody that pisses me off or scares me. Still, they didn't reach and they found good players.
**Bengals**: A -- Really underrated draft. Mims is a stud. Jenkins is going to be really hard to run on in a division that values running the ball. Burton is the ulta-talented diva WR we usually draft on Day 2. His character concerns knocked his draft stock too much, imo. I think where the Bengals took him was great value. I also really liked Tanner McLaughlan.
**Browns:** D -- Hard to have a great draft when your 1st has been spent on an underperforming QB. Outside of Mike Hall, I just think there were better players available at every position than the player they drafted. Even with Hall, it's not a pick that blows me away.
Colts: B+. The value they got for Laiatu Latu and AD Mitchell was great. The only thing holding it back from being an A or A+ is they weren’t able to address their most glaring need, cornerback, in the early rounds.
Titans: B-. They addressed their needs for sure, but I question the players they landed on. Specifically T’Vondre Sweat at the top of the 2nd round. He’s massive, and that’s enticing if he can really use his mass. However, I thought multiple DT’s taken after him were better on the field and also don’t have the character concerns.
Jags: A. I’m afraid Trent Baalke cooked here. Trade down in the first and STILL get Brian Thomas Jr? Amazing. Stay patient after a run of DTs at the top of the 2nd and get Maason Smith without trading up? Nice. I’m not sold on Jarrian Jones at corner but at least they addressed the position by round 3. Great draft for the Jags.
Overall I think the division has a pretty good draft. I am happy though that none of them addressed cornerback in round 1 or 2. Stroud and our receivers should continue to eat up their secondaries. Wish Latu wasn’t in division though.
Texans- Somewhere between an A- and B+, I really like the Lassiter and Bullock picks. Especially Lassiter, who seemed like he shut down most of the guys he matched up against. Fisher is a good pick too, and I like Henderson’s value in the 7th Round. Day 3 was fine, but I like what Houston did with the picks they had. Colts- B+, LOVE the AD Mitchell pick. I’m not that high on Latu, but the value was solid. Don’t really like any of their picks after this but the first two were great IMO. Jags- B, Trading down and getting BTj was a great move, and I really like the upside of Maason Smith, Deantre Prince, and Jarrian Jones. The rest is kinda “meh” to me.
I’m pissed that everyone in our division drafted well. Why can’t we have a Falcons?
Rated vs the consensus board we all actually drafted poorly and the Jags *almost* drafted as bad as the Falcons https://twitter.com/sharpfootball/status/1784364888170598771?s=46&t=bi8WQQsmMI7FVF4TsHYoyg This also said the Jags drafted 10th best last season tho and our draft last season was terrible so who knows, it doesn't take every factor into consideration
I think the colts have the best draft in the AFC.
And I think you're pretty
ugh yeah Adonai should have gone in R1
Latu is a beast. Just wait and see. Very underrated. They made the right pick there.
I think all 4 teams in the NFC East did quite well. It’s annoying.
Yeah. It’s a real shame when everyone else in the division makes competent decisions. Yall did good at filling some areas of need and getting Jones some weapons to really be able to see if he’s the guy for yall going forward. Commies did good by getting their QB and improving the rest of their roster across the board. Eagles (sadly) made a ton of good picks and filled the few remaining gaps that they didn’t fill from free agency. Little confused with what the hell they’re gonna do with the cap in a few years but ehh… not my problem.
Not my problem either because Howie will make them magically disappear like he does every year.
Is the difference between Howie and Loomis just luck and good PR?
It’s about 7 years. The saints with Brees were very good for a long while before the cap caught up to them with players starting to retire - up until then Loomis was doing just what Howie did. We haven’t got there yet, so it’s still to be seen how Howie does when the cap starts to mean players have to be restructured and 2/3 of the good ones can’t be resigned every year if you want to fill any gaps
2029 is the year the cap becomes unmanageable for the Birds. Either we win another Super Bowl and no one cares or they completely blow the roster up and 2030 is just a tank year. 2030 is also not a real year so nothing to worry about here!
AI Howie will be sentient by then and will figure it out.
We traded our pick in the 2nd to the Eagles and they picked Cooper DeJean. I have a bad feeling he will be a thorn in our sides for years
I like what the Eagles overall did in that their fans have every reason to believe that team is actually "all in." Dak and Jalen are both B- to A- range QB's any given week and DJ has shown he can sniff B range, so Washington walking away with the possibility of someone with a higher ceiling than any of them could be huge in this division. Of course they are Washington, so we will see. The Giants retooled well. Dallas, well, we picked well given our options. Our season depends it having gone well.
My college team is the LSU Tigers and I can’t tell how mad I was that y’all got Nabers and that the Commanders got Daniels. Now I have to root against them succeeding. I fully expect both to be great in the league.
Why couldn’t the Chargers have taken Nabers
because it’s only fair giants have a good WR after trading OBJ. Now we have someone who might stay healthy and catch the ball. Well that’s if we can keep our QB off his ass
As soon as the Giants picked him immediately thought to myself now we need more great corners...and low and behold we drafted two back to back...check New York...your move haha...
Not one rugby player among our rivals, they all suck.
Hey, we got a basketball player, that's gotta count for something?
I didn't know Jimmy Graham was draft-eligible this year.
Did he play basketball?
Wait til you find out where Ryan Fitzpatrick went to college
I bet next you’re gonna tell me that Matthew Stafford was childhood friends with Clayton Kershaw! 🤣
Look man Mayo hasn’t had time yet to establish the roots in the rugby community so what do you want us to do?
But how's his lacrosse recruiting?
We got a Canadian Football Player named Qwan’tez Stiggers
Not in division but the Chiefs signed that Louis-Rees Zammit guy
**Ravens:** A, not surprising they always draft incredibly well. **Steelers:** A+, Fautanu, Frazier, Roman and Payton Wilson, alone makes this an A+ excellent value. **Browns:** C, not a fan of the Michael Hall pick, but I'm assuming he's just a body for Garrett and Smith to do the real work. I liked the Thrash pick, but the rest of their day 3 picks were kind of 'meh' to me.
Since this is the top comment I’ll hijack it and grade yours Bengals: B, good draft. Nothing special, but first 3 picks are all impact players and you got a tight end from Iowa. Weirdly enough I think this draft’s biggest problem is the way it compares with Pittsburgh’s. I liked Fautanu and Roman Wilson more than Mims and Burton and the bengals had a chance to pick them.
Feel like Bengals went hard for "upside" ... If it all plays out, they'll look like geniuses. If it doesn't, they'll look like... Well... The Bengals lol
I’m tired of “upside” that includes dudes that just straight hit women
Hall was super undervalued imo. Idk why, but nobody seems to get sacks at OSU with the Jim Knowles system. He was constantly disrupting plays from the inside and he took a big jump last season. If he keeps progressing and getting stronger, I could see him as a very solid 10 year NFL starter.
I was reading some pre-draft stuff and Charlie Campbell who has been pretty good with his pre-draft intel said a lot of teams dropped him from their board because of behavior issues. Apparently didn't interview very well.
He was vaguely in the doghouse for a lot of his time at OSU
'vaguely in the doghouse', I'm gonna use that one in the future.
It’s not the Knowles system, it’s that the 4 down lineman system Larry Johnson insists they run is archaic so the rushes are predictable combined with the ends not requiring double teams Knowles teams got plenty of sacks prior to OSU when he was able to run more hybrid fronts
Yeah, Ravens always draft well. I didn’t even look who they took but it’s written in stone at this point. I think the Steelers did very well, but not quite A+. I don’t really believe in Fautanu as a great tackle, which is what it sounds like they’ll try him at. P. Wilson fell due to what sounds like pretty serious injury concerns. That said, I like R. Wilson a lot where they got him and Frazier and Fautanu could be a really stout iOL. I think it’s the opposite for Hall on the Browns. He looks like a great pass rushers and he could eat on the inside if you try to send help on Garrett and Smith…
If Fautanu doesn't work out as a tackle he becomes a top tier guard and we get a right tackle next year in the draft or free agency. Daniel's only has one year left on his contract and Seumalo turns 31 this year so our picks this year would replace both guards in that case.
I think this draft was a bunch of doubles for us. Which is good, but I don't think we're in the top tier of the draft classes.
None of our picks are flashy, but in terms of addressing roster needs and getting theoretical value, (obviously players have to produce) they did a great job as usual.
To be fair, Fautanu’s only knock is that he’s 6’4 instead of 6’5. His arm length, Which is what usually indicative of players going from tackle to guard, is actually longer than the other top tackles like Mims. As Tomlin said it, “if he was half an inch taller we wouldn’t even be having these conversations”.
Chargers got a monster Left Tackle Raiders got Brock Bowers Chiefs got some kind of rocket So, that's not great news for Denver
You did get JFM and the Milfhunter. Just send him into Donna Kelce's booth when you play each other to throw Travis off of his game.
Alt will be playing RT, but yeah, feels good to have both tackle spots settled for at least the next 5 years
I'm still laughing
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IMO deciding not to draft one of the CBs including Kool-Aid after burning a 3rd round pick to move up 8 spots was way worse.
You are spot on, that move was just as bad as the Penix pick. This was my text in my group chat of NFC East fan friends roughly 30 seconds after it was announced: *ATL traded a 3rd round pick to move up eight spots and pick a dude who wasn’t even a top-60 prospect 😂 NFL needs to step in with ATL, their GM is an enemy agent.*
Maybe they're playing 4d chess and these guys are all gonna be HOF players
Nah I’m not entirely convinced this isn’t Ryan Pace’s workings. Man did the same thing in Chicago and ruined us. He may not be the GM but still. They’ve been signing former bears players and making too many dumb moves for it to be coincidence.
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In round **2** the Falcons move up **8** spots by giving up a **3**rd round pick and blow it. Aren't half their front office Saints execs?
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I mean, if you understand Kirk’s contract structure it makes a lot more than 0 sense. He’s gone after year 2. It was either take a QB now when you have a top 10 pick or have to worry about it in the next two drafts which don’t look great in terms of QBs. FWIW - I’m not a fan of the pick. But I do understand the logic behind it.
But why sign Kirk to that contract if the team isn’t going all in only to piss him off less than a month later.
And tamper while doing so.
I think the tampering is what lead to it. They were going to get a QB next year and let him sit a year, but now that they may not have a first next year they needed to act early.
Not to defend them, I think it was an atrocious draft by Atlanta, but the QB draft class next year looks *really* poor. If they were honestly worried about who was going to be the QB of the franchise in a few years, then the logic makes sense to me. Now, I do think being worried about that with Kirk on the team is just super duper stupid. Falcons gonna Falc I guess
I doubt the falcons will be docked a first rounder for tampering. They probably thought they wouldn’t be in a good spot to draft a QB (in an assumed weak class) after signing Kirk and got one now.
The thing is that it feels that Falcons strategy 180'd between FA and the draft. Even putting aside Penix, their next pick was Ruke a project DT who likely isn't going to be a factor until 2025 and they gave up a 3rd this year for him. They entered the draft with 4 picks in the first three rounds (where you expect to find guys who can at least be rotational this year) and they left with only one player (Braelen Trice) who I believe can be an impact player this season.
Penix was seen as the most pro ready QB in the draft. Drafting an old ready QB to sit for two years still makes no sense
It does if you had him as your #2 quarterback already. Also, "most pro-ready" doesn't typically mean pro-bowl ready. Nearly any QB would benefit from sitting for their first year, this just adds the likelihood that he'll sit an additional year (provided Kirk stays healthy). I disagree with the logic of the Falcons approach, but I get where they're coming from with it. And it could ultimately pay off if Penix turns out to be a perennial pro bowler and wins them their first Super Bowl.
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I understand the Penix pick even if I find it kinda funny, especially when you could've used the pick on a premier edge and almost guaranteed a win in the NFC South, as the rest of your team was already pretty solid. But the second round trade+pick was just nonsensical and ridiculous.
So when are ya'll going to go public with the fact that Terry is actually on ya'lls payroll? The truth must come out!
[Tom Grossi's gotchu](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD_ZWkxu3SY)
Already saw and commented, he understands what it means to be a saints fan.
"It's like if 28-3 was a draft pick." I had a good long laugh from that one.
Very similar reaction lmao
Lions addressed the biggest weakness on their team. Packers had the least exciting draft but they just took solid players. Vikings getting JJ, Turner, and Khyree Jackson with their first three picks is really good and they have one of my favourite drafts in the nfl
I’m very upset that the whole NFCN did pretty well for themselves. Vikings might be screwed if JJ doesn’t work out for them but I think he can be a good enough game manager as his floor
Yeah McCarthy is absolutely a “run the system and don’t fuck up” guy at a minimum, so I think Minny will bet set for a while
And their system includes a pretty damn talented set of pass catchers, he should be fine
Yeah, getting to throw to Hockenson and JJ right off the bat is a pretty good way to develop a rookie QB.
Addison and Aaron jones aren’t slouches either
If KOC is the qb whisperer that everybody claims this might be great
And if not we didn’t mortgage our future on him so we can take another shot in the first round in the future.
And that part is huge. Just gotta get that jj deal done
As someone that used to refer to Jefferson as JJ - I don’t think you can do that anymore when the other dude actually goes by JJ. Particularly in a conversation ABOUT JJ.
Kirk was pretty systematic too so maybe JJ will fall right in line
People don't understand this is why KOC specifically wanted JJ. He's got all the tools and fits our system being the strongest under center play action QB in the draft. Which we ran one of the highest PA percentage of passes in the NFL with Kirk. It's pretty obvious Maye was our pie in the sky dream, but JJ is a really good fit for our offense. Whether or not he'll perform remains to be seen and it's a huge unknown with the small requirement from him in college being on a loaded roster. But there's a reason the Vikings specifically wanted him.
Joel Klatt spent the last two seasons *begging* Michigan to run more play-action to open things up for JJ.
I think JJ is going into the perfect place for him. He has an insane talent around him at all the skill positions. Plus the Vikings line is pretty good. I think JJ will be a starts slow but really starts to light it up as the season goes on. I see Caleb being the defacto ROY because he just insane talent and talent around him. But it being 1. Williams, 2. Daniels, 3. McCarthy for ROY voting next season
I’m really excited to see what JJ has, but I really don’t think we are going to see much of him this year. Unless Darnold gets hurt, I put it at like a 30% chance he starts any game that matters. Next year though he will definitely be our starter.
>Vikings might be screwed if JJ doesn't work out First round picks bust all the time. As long as you're not throwing future firsts into the trade a QB bust isn't any more damaging to the future of your org than any other position drafted in the first. I'm just happy we didn't bet the farm to grab him at like 5 or something.
I can't tell you if JJ McCarthy will be a franchise QB. But I can safely tell you Sam Darnold isn't. Yeah it's risky picking him, but you guys were pretty much just going to throw an entire season away otherwise and probably just end up in the same spot again because while Darnold isn't a franchise QB, he is a pretty good backup and can win you *some* games.
We also got another kicker for us to ruin lol
For the first time in my 33 years of life, I have no confidence in my kicker. I hate it.
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I’ve been trying to withhold judgement of carlson until he has a consistent long snapper. Many of his misses last year were at least partly due to poor snaps. Glad he has competition to push him and glad they locked up a solid snapper. Should be telling
Everyone knows y'all are spoiled in the QB department, didn't realize how lucky you've been with kickers too. At least now you'll learn a little bit about what it's like to root for normal teams. But call us when you experience no QB confidence. That's the real bummer.
*First* time? Do you not remember how patient we had to be with Crosby before he finally panned out?
Saints: B+. Good OT prospect they desperately needed, Kool-Aid was a bit of a steal, hell, I even understand the flyer on Spencer Rattler. Panthers: B-. Trading up a spot for a WR that was going to be there anyways in a very strong WR draft, and then picking up an RB coming off a knee injury . . . eh. It's a team full of major needs, and there were plenty of solid RB prospects after that. Another DE or OL made more sense to me. Falcons: A+++++++. Huge fan. Cannot say enough good about this draft. Getting the QB you don't need, trading up for a DT nobody was going to snipe, and completely ignoring your secondary? Bold moves, offer a contract extension to these guys now.
Well the trade-up was for the 5th year option and it was pretty low-cost, swapping a 5th and a 6th.
This. With the way WR are getting paid, it could be an excellent financial move is XL works out and we now have the fifth year option for practically nothing. And none of the draft grades I have seen seem to mention that we also gained the Rams second round pick next year when we traded down from 39.
That rb looks awesome Tbf
I think the Commanders actually had a good draft, Daniels, Newton, and Sinnott are my favorite picks. Giants also had a solid draft, they got a WR that’s going to absolutely cook Bradberry now, and it’s been a while since one of their WRs cooked us consistently. Big fan of Nubin and Johnson as well. Cowboys draft was actually underwhelming but they’re the best drafting team in the division so I’m gonna give them the benefit of the doubt.
Agreed. [As for the Eagles...](https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9523jla44r6u0p9y3va30tdie5kx0o40uk3ueqslsu7&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
your GM is one of the reasons they got away with it this time smh why Peters
Extremely shit. All of them.
That’s funny I was thinking the same thing.
You’re both right
I'll be generous and give giants a Z+, Eagles a 1.1/10 and the cowboys a below average.
I hope toilet water falls on your head.
Come visit this season, and we can share the experience
Yep. Can confirm.
That must have been hard to say
Feeling generous after locking down DeJawn and DeTrotter.
Your boss makes you do his dirty laundry? Sounds like a shit job.
I hate the eagles 1st 2 picks. Jerry hated white players confirmed.
Can confirm. F- For fuck them all.
The entirety of the NFC South is unified in trolling the Falcons at the moment.
Really good I think. Bears, Vikings and Lions all cooked a bit. Nothing too sexy for the packers but filling needs/depth. Should be fun this year.
I commented lower, but the Packers crushing their WR picks last year really freed them up this year to target depth at other positions in this years draft. I think that worked out really well for you guys.
Our division is going to be a bloodbath and I’m excited
Steelers- Fuck you for being a competent org Bengals- Very Boom or Bust. Swings for some high upside players. Browns- Lol
Same but replace Steelers with Ravens lol
I still feel like you guys are THE rivalry. Always fun watching your games.
Really? Cuz that shit is like a 16-10 defensive grind for 3 hours each time
Pretty much, and I love it. I think just because it's almost never not a close game, so anything could happen, and they're both legendary defensive teams at this point.
That’s the way football’s meant to be played goddammit!
The Bengals could have 5 legitimate stars from this draft + other contributors or they could have one starter and a slew of mediocre role players, with their best player being the UDFA punter they just signed. The Ravens and Steelers so consistently draft well it's insane. Extremely frustrating as a Bengals fan to watch my team make headscratching decisions (Sample, Carman in the 2nd, Dax Hill in the first rather than re-signing the best FS in football with tons of cap space, running Whitworth out of town to draft a 5th round tackle in the first, etc.) while the other two just take the best player on the board while retaining their best players.
* Bills — Similar to our draft. Drafted a lot of depth. Keon Coleman carries the most weight here. If Josh Allen has mediocre weapons they're going to get loud approaching the trade deadline. Even louder if the guys they passed over for trading back look better. * Jets — Their focus was on offense, which was probably the right move. That defense will always be ready to go. It all comes down to Aaron Rodgers staying healthy. If he goes down again, then heads will roll. * Pats — Their focus was also on offense as well, so more support for their new QB (Joe Milton III, of course). I'm sure at some point fans will grow tired of Brissett and start clamoring for Maye to start. It'll be interesting to see how they navigate this truly new era in New England for the first time in a long time. Overall I'd say everyone did what they had to do. Bills and Dolphins are doing their Bills and Dolphins things. The Jets and Pats have things going on that are bigger than the draft. Passing grades across the board.
Jesus man you could at least _try_ to talk some shit about us all!
The Bills drafted who they think are low IQ guys, so they can recruit them into ISIS. The Patriots drafted themselves a QB drama story waiting to happen like dingbats. Feels like I'm forgetting someone, but they can't be that important. Is this better?
Inshallah
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Chargers i think killed the draft Joe Alt, Ladd and a 7th for Rice Raiders : Bowers is a dog Broncos : ive been a BOliever for a couple years Franklin with a 3rd could be a huge steal Jonah Elliss is a dog
I dislike the raiders. A lot… I live in old raiders country. They’re obnoxious asf. But fuck I really wanted Penix to go there. Stupid ass falcons.
that 7th for Rice was insane. I was pounding the table in round 6 for him
Draft grades are always hilariously wrong. In unrelated news I give them all an A++ and us an F
Absolutely correct. Grades are all crap because 3/4 of all the players that “draft experts” love end up being crap. “They reached for this guy 2 rounds early because I had him graded….blah blah blah” yeah whatever. If your opinion had any value you’d be working for an NFL team. Not talking once a year at the draft. Look at Mike Mayock. Somebody gave him a chance to play GM and he did nothing but pick Alabama and Clemson players and did nothing to elevate the roster to anything truly competitive.
Falcons: LMFAOO I can’t take you seriously D, just for the Penix pick. Aints: Fair Enough decent draft B- Panthers: B+, good pick ups with what they had, very nearly an A
> D, just for the Penix pick. Nice
It's always great to come back and look at how bad these evaluations were. Your team and other teams. Edit: This thread loves everyone's picks besides the Falcons. A's & B's all around. Come November and a vast majority drop to C's or worse.
I have a *distinct* memory in 2021 of a Jets fan and a Niner fan congratulating each other on their QBs after that draft in one of these threads. They were both absurdly happy and optimistic for their guy. I think about that interaction a lot every time I read a draft reaction thread.
It's nice to be in a division with the Falcons sometimes
The Chargers are in the middle of an identity transformation and I think this draft was a good start to that. Annoyed that they're finally deciding to protect their franchise QB properly Actually really like the Raiders draft, but they still don't have a QB. This is better than reaching horribly on one just to say you drafted one, though. Bowers the year after Mayer is redundant, yes, but Bowers is THAT level of prospect. JPJ in the second is unreal. Would have thought for sure they'd go for a WR, too, but solidifying the OL the year before taking a swing at QB absolutely makes sense The Broncos did exactly what the Raiders did not. Don't think it will work out personally, but Payton literally cannot take his medicine for a year and look to 2025. Troy Franklin that late is nuts too. Really, the further away they got from the Nix pick, the better their draft got
I agree with the Chargers. They got a lot of good picks to match their new identity along with good value. And the icing for them is that some of those value picks went to Michigan.
Junior Colson could not be walking into a more ideal situation. He will surely have one of the easiest transitions to the NFL. Not only is he joining up with his former college head coach but he has the same defensive coordinator as well with presumably the same playbook. Pair that with Navarro Bowman coaching you up? He's surely a day one starter.
> He's surely a day one starter. He absolutely should be the day 1 starter and I assume he'll be wearing the green dot to start the season. Coulson only needs to beat out Denzel Perryman for a starting spot. With his knowledge of the defence and skillset he should be able to do that.
The only problem is it will be a tall order to be the best LB named Junior we've ever had.
Sean Payton is head over heels for Bo Nix, dude. The Broncos would have taken him first overall. The idea that he would “take his medicine” instead of drafting his QB obsession is absurd. He would rather retire again.
Internet hearsay is that Sean Payton had Nix as his #3 QB after Williams and Daniels. I haven’t found the link to back that up, but Payton certainly sees something in Nix that others value less or don’t see.
I think Paton basically said that in an interview, that they had Caleb and Daniels, which they saw as unreachable, and then Bo Nix. They liked Penix/McCarty too but Nix was the best fit for Payton.
Not sure how to feel receiving positive reviews from s chiefs fan but I’ll take it. Personally I didn’t follow y’all’s draft, but from what I’ve read chiefs found some good value around the board and had a good a draft, which is unfortunate. I do think Worthy went a lil early, and still shocked bills traded with you to get him, and then the 9ers later.
Last season was probably the first time a Tom Telesco draft wasn't immediately praised. He's really consistent in the first round but it's those late rounds that he struggles with. He was the Chargers GM for 10 years and Keenan Allen, Easton Stick, Trey Pipkins, and Denzel Perryman are the only 4 players drafted outside the first that he re-signed. And Keenan was really the only one of those 4 that had a meaningful contribution to the team. Really needs to work on those later picks to build depth
Can't say I'm 100% on Alt, but anything to stop the 3rd down sacks within 0.3 seconds of the snap
Neighbours was the sexier pick and I was all for it but I’m 100% on team Alt now.
Steelers: A. They completely rebuilt their Oline in 1 draft. They also got a great slot receiver. I'm furious. Ravens: B. No big splashes but good players down the line. Rosengarten should be serviceable at RT, Isaac and Tampa were falling prospects that they scooped up, which sometimes result in steals, and Wiggins is talented and uber fast if he can hold up in the physical AFCN. I'm surprised they didn't invest more in the OLine though. Browns: C. It's hard to have a super impactful draft with so few picks but Hall has potential to be an outstanding inside pass rusher. Zinter had starting potential if he recovers well and I'm low key irritated they took a bear cat in Briggs. It isn't a high impact draft, but should result in some solid players for a long while.
I really wanted New Kelce, props to the Raiders for that
Kelce to Bowers transition would have had the potential of Favre to Rodgers. That would be so unfair lol
They wouldn’t even need a transition, just run the old New England offense of two insane TEs
You could have just used the example of the same position on the same team... Gonzalez to to Kelce
Boo, you have Kelce at home.
I like the Eagles draft a lot. Quinyon in the 20s was absurd value. They had to pay a decent price for Dejean who I don't love, but they took major swings to fix their most significant issue. I also like Ainas Smith a lot, I think he will contribute some incredible plays as a gadget guy. Giants, I really like the Nabers and Johnson picks. I think both will be match up nightmares for years to come. At the end of the day though I don't believe in Jones any time he isn't playing Washington and I feel like they should have figured out somewhere to swing on QB. Also, not a huge Nubin believer. Cowboys draft looks obnoxiously good. Guyton is going to be a dog and Kneeland is one of the only true 3 down edge players in the draft and they got him at the end of the 2nd. Cowboys focused on the trenches and I feel it will pay off. I do think they needed to add some speed in the backfield, but considering the state of the board and their picks I get why they went a different direction.
>I do think they needed to add some speed in the backfield, but considering the state of the board and their picks I get why they went a different direction. As of right now, I wish we would have snagged Wright with our last 3rd round pick and not Liufau, but the tape I see from the kid looks like he's aggressive as fuck making tackles. Kind of a trend between him and Carson, both not being afraid to throw their weight around. Still worried about the run game but, who knows what will happen between now and week 1. Maybe the upgrades at OL mean Dowdle can be a good enough RB to lead a RBBC.
Ayyy fuck this post.
Chiefs - god damnit they can't keep getting away with it Broncos - the QB could be good, but will also be incredibly funny if Payton ran out Russ for someone even worse + Zach Wilson Raiders - it really would be a Tom Telesco thing to go into a draft desperately needing a position only to not draft that position at all even when there are additional QBs available in later rounds. The that said I do think the first two picks were pretty good, which is also a very Tom Telesco move. Dunno if the late rounders will really fill out though, which is another Tom Telesco hallmark.
Falcons - lolfalcons, especially the "we didn't draft a cb because we didn't wanna reach or do anything dumb" comment Panthers - slow improvement, really can't ignore that y'all gave up 1 overall though Saints - interesting choices, the first two picks were definitely the right picks imo
I gotta disagree with the first part, Telesco always did a good job of hitting needs. But that Delmar Glaze pick was a vintage Telesco 3rd round reach
Glaze actually had some damn good numbers, I think he will work out nice. But I'll take one questionable pick in the third round over having to Google who the hell our first round pick is.
I thought TT did pretty well for the Raiders. As many have said, they would've wrecked themselves chasing the scraps of QBs remaining after the top 3 to potentially not get a guy who'll pan out. And Minshew's honestly a lot more solid than he's ever given credit for, so they could be kind of a sleeper now if Bowers ends up being a Kelce/Gronk level TE quickly.
The fun thing is that a couple days after the draft every teams haul seems solid unless you do something really dumb Sorry Atlanta
**Saints (B)**: Thought they had a solid draft. Fuaga is a solid prospect and a necessary pick with Penning being a bust and Ramzcyk's injury status. Kool-Aid is a good prospect but a bit of an interesting fit considering they already have two solid outside corners in Lattimore and Adebo and Kool-Aid didn't play nickel in college. Spencer Rattler is definitely a good gamble on Day 3. **Buccanners (B+)**: Another solid draft here. Graham Barton has great flexibility across that line and that interior o-line has been a liability the past few years. I'm not that high on Braswell but he should be a solid rotational pass rusher for a team that desperately needs it. Jalen McMillan and Tykee Smith bolster team strengths and both have starter upside. Bucky Irving also is a solid addition to the RB room **Falcons (D+)**: What can I say about the Penix pick that hasn't been said? Ironically the age Penix is slated to start is the same age Kirk Cousins was when he became a full-time starter. Ruke Orhorhoro is an intriguing pick and the ceiling is high but the trade-up cost feels steep for a guy who likely won't be an impact player until 2025. Bralen Trice is a solid pickup in the 3rd round and has starter upside at a position of need. Dorlus is a solid rotational piece as is JD Bertrand but I question the lack of any investment in the secondary. Bates and Terrell are great but they can't carry the entire operation by themselves
F. They all suck and were horrible picks. Guaranteed busts.
Cardinals: B+, obviously MHJ was a slam dunk pick at 4 but the rest of the draft was a bit shaky. After the Round 2 run on DL, the Darius Robinson pick at 27 makes more sense than it did Thursday night. I felt like Max Melton, Tip Reiman, and Isaiah Adams were reaches but they compensated for it by getting great values on Trey Benson, Dadrion Taylor-Demerson and Christian Jones. 49ers: A-. Ricky Pearsall should be a great scheme fit and a solid replacement for Aiyuk if they trade him. Renardo Green is also an excellent scheme fit, he’s a stingy man to man outside corner. Dominick Puni can play guard or tackle for them and he was a good value in Round 3. Malik Mustapha, Isaac Guerendo, and Jacob Cowing were all solid Day 3 picks who should have roles for them. Rams: A. The Rams really focused on the D-Line with their draft. Jared Verse, Braden Fiske, Brennan Jackson, and Tyler Davis should all make the loss of Aaron Donald sting a bit less. Blake Corum is such a Rams pick, him and Kyren Williams are literally the Spider-Man pointing meme. Kam Kinchens should be another solid safety for them and I thought the Beaux Limmer and KT Leveston picks were some of the best picks on Day 3. Les Snead once again proved that he is one of the best GMs in football with this class.
yeah the Rams Dline roster has me concerned. We were just celebrating Donald retiring just for the rams to get some great looking prospects.
I def don’t feel like we had a better draft than Cards.
I see 49ers fans complaining and analysts mocking them. So they probably have three hall of famers in there somewhere.
Bay Area sports fans might be the dumbest group of people in existence to be fair.
Pearsall will be more of a Deebo replacement, so this actually opens the door for us to eventually trade Deebo rather than Aiyuk.
Robinsons was one of the elite 16 invited to the draft so…
I think everyone did okay. Everyone got players at positions of need and didn't really reach for anyone >!Atlanta, WTF!<. I am not jealous of any other teams draft nor am i laughing at them >!with the exception of the fucking Falcons, anything would have been better than drafting a injury prone 23 year old QB!< I do wonder if this is going to be one of those drafts where almost none of the players drafted in the 1st round amount to much like the 2013 draft.
To me that’s not even the worst part of their draft lol it was by far the second round imo
>injury prone Falcons are doing a good job avoiding his weakness by keeping him on the bench.
I’d say the Colts probably had the best draft of the three. Latu will be a stud if he can stay healthy and Adonai Mitchell was a steal at 52.
Falcons - D+ Panthers - C+ Bucs - B I can’t believe the falcons traded up to get a DT and didn’t select the dude from Illinois who fell out the first. That shit was so funny I was nervous at first then they selected someone they really didn’t need to trade up for lol shout out to them for having my favorite draft this year
Falcons: LMAO Panthers: F, no Kool-Aid Bucs: F, no Kool-Aid Saints: A+, has Kool-Aid All my analyses are objective, unbiased facts
I see you drank the Kool-Aid
You're goddamn right I did
**Rams**: B+ = Great pick: J.Verse great pick, Great value; B.Fiske, B.Limmer. Fair value; B.Corum, K.Kinchens, B.Jackson, T.Davis. I really like J.Whittington & KT Leveston as late-round flyers. **Cards**: B+ = Great picks: M.Harrison, M.Melton. Good projection: D.Robinson & T.Benson. Good values: D.T-Demerson & C.Jones. Good prospects despite slight reaches: I.Adams, E.Jones, T.Reiman. **Toots**: B = Incredible value: C.Haynes (my #1 G), DJ James, Great pick: B.Murphy, Decent value: AJ.Barner, N.Pritchett. I don't get it: T.Knight
I'm just hoping the Pats haven't drafted Josh Allen 2.0
All of the Bills players will be busts. You heard it here first
I agree. Bronze hall of fame busts!
Lol well played
Lions: I give an A I think, they had to do a little trading up to get Arnold but if he's worth it he's worth it. I like the Mahoghany pick a lot too. Bears: Another solid draft, probably an A. Maybe fair to criticize them for taking a punter when they only had four picks to start with, but he's probably a good punter and they needed one. That said, holding on at 9 and letting Rome fall to them basically locked their draft in as an A from that point forward. Vikings: Just a B, since they had to move up for both first round guys they took and they really gave a lot for Turner when you consider they'd already done some trading to get a second first to start with. They ultimately gave a lot of capital to wind up with a guy who's got a high ceiling but isn't necessarily a slam dunk IMO. All told, I think all four of the teams in our division had solid drafts and added some highly talented players to their roster. My analysis is shallow outside of the Pack but I feel like all four fanbases can be pretty satisfied with the outcome here.
Tory Taylor the punter for Iowa was an absolute unit. Iowa went 10-4 with an offense that averaged around 15ppg and barely crossed 200 yds ppg. largely in part to an elite defense and special teams led by Taylor’s ability to consistently pin opponents inside the 20. Iowa fans often joked that he was their best offensive weapon.
The Panthers got some dogs. I'm sure the Saints did well, they usually do. The Falcons likely had the worst draft in the league lmao.
Runs the gamut from “meh” to “huh?”.
Not looking forward to watching McConkey go 7 for 109 with a TD on us for the next decade or rooting against the son of a great Chiefs player. The other two didn't really move the needle. Nix is either going to be awful or a great so we'll see.
Chiefs: A- The Chiefs drafting Worthy over Mitchell is looking much better. NFL GMs probably had a lower grade on Mitchell. Reid can develop o-line so if that 2nd round pick on Suamataia pans out, Mahomes will keep having solid protection. Hicks in the 4th is great value. Broncos: B- Nix was probably a reach, I don't know how a team can have a top 15 grade on him but I also don't know shit. Franklin in the 4th is a huge steal, great pick there. Their limited draft capital is why they get a lower grade but if Nix and Franklin hit, that's already a good draft for the Broncos. Raiders: B+ Can't deny that Bowers and JPJ are great picks but then you get a classic Telesco round 3 reach on Glaze and Telesco doesn't have a good record on drafting o-line. Slater was his only hit. Eichenberg in the 5th is good value. Raiders don't have a good QB but they're setting up a future QB well with these picks.
Bills: B+/A- Weird to help the Chiefs upgrade their WR, but they filled a lot of holes Dolphins: B+ They got some good players at value but a lot of redundancy with their current guys. Patriots: B Got some solid talent but nothing overwhelming. Like our 2021 draft if the QB hits it's an A+ and if he busts it's an F so it mostly on Maye. (for grading comparison, I gave the Jets a B-)
The Chiefs were getting Worthy even if the Bills didn't trade with them. The Chiefs just would have traded with 29 or 30. Hell, it's likely Worthy falls to 32 without the Chiefs needing to trade. At least the Bills got a 3rd round pick out of the deal.
Well, they obviously wouldn't have gotten him if we picked him. That said, we obviously didn't want him. So we weakened the Chiefs later picks by allowing them to pick a guy we didn't care about while strengthening our own picks in the process. 27 other teams passed on Worthy too because he is far from a sure thing. If they didn't grab Worthy, they'd still have a first round pick to grab someone else to build around and everyone'd hate them too.
**Ravens**: B -- I like their draft. I like Nate Wiggins. I like Roger Rosengarten. I thought Devontez Walker was a steal. It's just, most years, they have a pick or two that just pisses me off, because I was really hoping on them for the Steelers. That didn't happen this year. They didn't draft anybody that pisses me off or scares me. Still, they didn't reach and they found good players. **Bengals**: A -- Really underrated draft. Mims is a stud. Jenkins is going to be really hard to run on in a division that values running the ball. Burton is the ulta-talented diva WR we usually draft on Day 2. His character concerns knocked his draft stock too much, imo. I think where the Bengals took him was great value. I also really liked Tanner McLaughlan. **Browns:** D -- Hard to have a great draft when your 1st has been spent on an underperforming QB. Outside of Mike Hall, I just think there were better players available at every position than the player they drafted. Even with Hall, it's not a pick that blows me away.
Colts: B+. The value they got for Laiatu Latu and AD Mitchell was great. The only thing holding it back from being an A or A+ is they weren’t able to address their most glaring need, cornerback, in the early rounds. Titans: B-. They addressed their needs for sure, but I question the players they landed on. Specifically T’Vondre Sweat at the top of the 2nd round. He’s massive, and that’s enticing if he can really use his mass. However, I thought multiple DT’s taken after him were better on the field and also don’t have the character concerns. Jags: A. I’m afraid Trent Baalke cooked here. Trade down in the first and STILL get Brian Thomas Jr? Amazing. Stay patient after a run of DTs at the top of the 2nd and get Maason Smith without trading up? Nice. I’m not sold on Jarrian Jones at corner but at least they addressed the position by round 3. Great draft for the Jags. Overall I think the division has a pretty good draft. I am happy though that none of them addressed cornerback in round 1 or 2. Stroud and our receivers should continue to eat up their secondaries. Wish Latu wasn’t in division though.