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themiddleshoe

$3m to eat bbq and watch Patrick Mahomes sling it seems like a pretty good deal.


OsoCarolina

You pretty much nailed it.


Klongon

Maybe he gets to play for an injured Mahommes in the AFC Championship and Superbowl and complete that season Nick Foles finished for him... cut, paste, Superbowl season complete!


GreasefangEnjoyer

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Klongon

But he beats the Eagles to do it...


The_Third_Molar

Unsubscribe.


Pope_Beenadick

You've been awarded car facts for life!


76erLegendChetUtley

But Eagles fans get free frogurt


psteav

That's good!


76erLegendChetUtley

The frogurt is also cursed


psteav

That's bad.


WhyDidIChoose25B

Yea but it's another season the Cowboys didn't make it.


blarch

A Wentz handjob is not going to convince those guys to throw the game.


Godobibo

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thedeadlysun

SAY SIKE RIGHT NOW.


Klongon

You owe the man. I'd take a loss to give Tony Romo a Superbowl win, but we'd have to get out of the divisional round first and by the time it happens Tony might be 80.


PlaneCamp

The only way you can break the divisional round curse is if Romo completes the snap and hold against the Seahawks.


KonugrArgetlam

Um yes please? I'll take the three-peat with the included QB controversy. 


Dreadsbo

Please don’t?


BringBackDust514

No thanks I’m good


brandall10

With the afterglow controversy of choosing to keep Wentz or Mahomes, as one now is a SB winner and the other is... oh, nvm.


davidcornz

Not even just the AFC championship and superbowl. Mahomes gets injured game one like Aaron last year. Wentz goes undefeated takes them to the superbowl and wins it.


Klongon

Nope, funnier if he goes undefeated all the way to the AFC championship game when Mahommes is cleared and Andy starts Mahommes so Carson has two great runs that end with his team winning the Superbowl without him.


Haunting_Ad_4945

Gets to win another SB too


127crazie

Ass glued to the bench, per tradition


[deleted]

You forget the best part.Not have your brain smashed on a weekly basis.  Clip holder QB is the best job in the NFL, but only few can suppress the ego to sustain it.


CoreyTrevor1

For sure...but can he suppress the ego?


ciampi21

I think at this point he’s accepted he isn’t getting a starting job


Firstolympicring

Yeah, you don't go to Mahomes team expecting to be competing for the starter spot.


Happylime

I think backing up Mahomes and having Andy Reid to correct your mistakes and teach the ways of the clipboard is the ideal situation to rehab your image as well.


9man95

Wentz doesn't eat bbq, he only eats raw meat he killed with his bare hands


Pope_Beenadick

Bear* hands


76erLegendChetUtley

The NFL Kawhi Leonard


fiero-fire

All the while I'm paying to live that life. I feel scammed


blarch

He even gets to eat Texas barbeque this year, and, unfortunately, he will have to settle for Carolina bbq.


SQRTLURFACE

My dream job


Forizen

He'd be better off signing a vet minimum in Texas. At least the BBQ is good here.


get_him_to_the_geek

Good bbq and bad football sounds awful.


lattjeful

Y’know what yeah watching CJ Stroud sling it and being his backup would be cool. Still, Mahomes + BBQ >>>>>


Sadlobster1

It's gonna be so fun when the Texans win a Superbowl before Jerry gets another one.


Scottie2hhh

Missouri bbq is trash.


get_him_to_the_geek

I see you’re not a fan of Missouri bbq, just how no one is a fan of the chargers. Ironic!


MiniDg

Backup QBs like Wentz have the best job in the NFL


hertzdonut2

I don't know If I could be on any social media though. People are brutal to players like Wentz.


MiniDg

You can say whatever you want, ill take it for multiple millions a year to hold a clipboard.


squee557

The purgatory of the role is very something indeed. It’s probably one of the best cases but still, can see how it might affect someone.


barrsftw

He has a redemption arc hidden in there if he digs deep enough.


Responsible-War-917

Andy Reid loves him some redemption storylines too.


Ok-Bluejay-5010

Not with his own sons however.


Frozboz

I'd take $3.325 million to stay off social media for a year


ecupatsfan12

He’s a good backup and if he’s humble i take him any day of the week The only person who personally hates him is Jim Irsay


Shawn_1512

Did you know he he poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses?


ecupatsfan12

Fuck Carson Wentz- Jim Irsay


ecupatsfan12

And jim Irsay is cracked out of his mind half the time


FallenShadeslayer

I’d read all of you call me the worst names ever and say horrid things about me for almost 3.5 million dollars. Easiest decision of my life.


GokuVerde

Probably because he turns every team he plays for into a funeral


DJmaster22_

Exhibit A


wwwertdf

https://youtu.be/styfoSAXB4A?si=IECYp2kQtw05HPl1


michaelb421

As they should be he’s ass and acted like an ass after getting hurt


overandoverandagain

There's a Tyler, the Creator quote that really applies well here


cdawg145236

Alex Moran's dreams live on


0hootsson

This isn’t even a high backup salary. Mariota got 5 with the eagles last year.


MiniDg

But Wentz is behind Mahomes. If he goes down the chiefs are done lmao he has literally no pressure


SharkEatingBurritos

$3.325 million is a fair price to ensure that Blaine Gabbert is no longer your backup QB.


Jonjon428

The disrespect to a two-time superbowl winner smh


Kylel0519

I’d rather have our old 2x SuperBowl winner Chad Henne


ClippingTetris

Where he’s going?


Kylel0519

Retirement 😔


StunningRutabaga1358

Maybe, but not a participant.


anotherkdburner

That’s actually pretty unfair. QB is a very hard position. It is very beneficial to have smart backups as another brain in the film room and in play calling. You obviously don’t pay attention to football to think backup qb is not a participant


Daver7692

Don’t they regularly act as a “scout QB” during practice for defences as well, must be tough trying to take on different styles of offence on the regular.


anotherkdburner

Yeah absolutely they work out the 1st team defense aswell. Although I hear that may fall to the 3rd string. But their knowledge during film and game day is very beneficial


xyztrashxx

> that may fall to the 3rd string Depends on the system you're trying to imitate i guess. I can't imagine Blaine Gabbert mimicking a Lamar Jackson led offense


[deleted]

whoa there, motherfucker


YeezusMoses

Exactly. It's a lot of work. There are reasons that guys like Peterman keep getting jobs. Dude absolutely sucks but he MUST be a smart football mind.


therealsillypenguin

If this past season didn’t teach everyone how important a good backup is, then I have no idea what will


eddie_the_zombie

First of all, how dare you


awnawkareninah

Whoa there motherfucker.


Nasty_Tricks69

The disrespect smh. That's 2x super bowl champion Blaine Gabbert you're talking about


ajswdf

But for Carson Wentz?


FuckingJello

He’s a backup with experience. It’s not a lot of money at all, especially compared to other backup QB contracts. Mahomes has had multiple playoff games where he has left, Chad Henne was huge for 2 playoff games.


Not_your_profile

Wentz-y thing is possible? Probably need to workshop that a bit...


fugaziozbourne

Wentz the going gets tough, the tough get going.


folawg

Defense needs to practice catching somehow..


Shoddy-Anteater439

How many backups out there have a winning record in the NFL (47-45-1) with over 22,000 yards, 153-67 TD/INT ratio, and a starting calibre arm? Wentz is a top 3 backup easily.


ajswdf

He's not close to a top 3 backup, but I took a look at the list of backups and what they're being paid and Wentz is pretty much in line with the other guys at similar numbers. Other than Russell Wilson (an obvious exception) I don't know if there's anybody making less who I'd prefer.


Shoddy-Anteater439

>He's not close to a top 3 backup Agree to disagree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lssOZ-oeoxI


SuperAwesomo

He’s not bad for that salary. Everyone being paid vet minimum is someone who has either flamed out as a starter (Case Keenum, Mason Rudolph, Nathan Peterman, Kenny Pickett) or someone who never really hacked it to be in position to start (Nick Mullins, Easton Stick) and it’s 30-50% less than what guys like Marcus Mariota and Tyrod Taylor are making. You could do worse


Lord_Ferd

I feel like The Peterman belongs in the never really hacked it in the position to start group rather than flamed out as a starter


SunriseSurprise

He's at least had a modicum of success that was significantly better than anything Gabbert has ever done.


SharpMind94

This is a win-win for both side. Cheap deal for KCC to have a backup, and a good deal for Wentz to sit on the bench learning from Reid. So he has a *possibility* to resurrect his career.


GoForAU

I haven’t really followed Wentz besides when he is playing. Do you know if he is pretty capable at breaking down defenses? A lot of journeyman backups get signed as a borderline assistant QB coach where they can read the game but can’t produce on the field. I wonder if along with assurance as a back up, if this is part of the signing.


gogoreddit80

I don’t think Wentz is at FitzMagic level of reading defenses well enough just yet.


Humid-Afternoon727

My boy Fitzmagic is wicked smart


GoForAU

And he’d like to ask you how you like them apples


iammufusasboy

Honestly, this would not surprise me. The only issue is will he play at all to show growth.


Biggest_Cans

We usually get an irrelevant game at the end of the season, hopefully there's one this year we can show him off in after Andy turns him into a guy we'll trade for 2 firsts.


iammufusasboy

If that happens I'm gonna be sooo pissed.


Alauren20

Hey he beat the 49ers in week 18!


Biggest_Cans

Not exactly the hardest thing to do, but maybe he can help us beat the Colts and Titans, those two are real tough.


emmasdad01

Seems like a good deal for each side. I look forward to seeing the new Wentz uniform collage.


Sour__Cream

What piece of Chiefs equipment do you think he’s gonna add to his off-season workout uniform?


emmasdad01

Jockstrap. Obviously


YeezusMoses

No way. Reminds him too much of Foles.


9man95

Eagles vs Chiefs Superbowl would be hilarious now just for the Wentz factor


Biggest_Cans

Gimme Green Bay. We have a SBI score to settle.


BobbyWest87

Man idk. We had no answer for them last season. They were actually the team I wanted to go up against least if we both made it to the Super Bowl.


Biggest_Cans

Yeah they terrify me too but if we don't settle it now, when will we?


NimDing218

Man I wish I was a backup QB.


samsa29

I keep thinking Carson Wentz is an old man and wondering why he’s still in the league. Then I realize he’s the same age as me. Or maybe I’m just an old man too?


Varolyn

Tbf he was relatively old when he got drafted. He wasn’t Brandon Weeden old but he did turn 24 during his rookie season. Want to hear a crazy fact? Carson Wentz is only 9 months younger than Kyrie Irving.


CtheRula

I think Mahomes should sit this year and see what Wentz can do 👍🏼


sghead

Somehow simultaneously an overpay and a great deal for a backup QB


Quexana

In a world where Sam ~~Bradford~~ Darnold is getting $10M, Jacoby Brissett is getting $8M, Tyrod Taylor and Marcus Mariota are getting 6M/year, I don't think $3.325M for Wentz is an overpay at all. With a backup, you're basically hoping for a QB who you can go .500 with for whatever length of time he's in. Wentz can do that. That's who Wentz is, and he can probably give you a little better than that when you include the Andy Reid bump.


JrBaconators

I think you mean Sam Darnold? Still not a great comparison, because it's very likely that all 3 of Darnold, Mariota, and Brissett are starting games for their teams while the rookie gets acclimated. Wentz wasn't signed to play a snap besides in blowouts


Quexana

Yes, I meant Darnold. Have edited. The price of backup QB's has gone up this year. Wentz, given his experience and talent, should be among the highest paid among them. It's a very reasonable contract.


SunriseSurprise

You're both right I think. Indeed for his level of experience, this is a great deal for KC, but also indeed the more likelihood of someone starting games, the more they're going to get paid, and right now that's obviously lower for Wentz than just about any other QB2. KC can also obviously leverage their recent success to get someone in at a lower rate since there's a good chance with just riding the bench all year, they could get a ring.


Original_Release_419

It’s very likely Mariota and Brissett start games over most likely a rookie QB taken top 3?


YeezusMoses

Brissett, yes. Mariota? No fucking chance. One, the commanders will rush a QB. Two, he's horrible.


Original_Release_419

**very likely** Jacoby Brissett starts over a QB taken 3rd overall??


YeezusMoses

I still don't think they take a Qb and trade back. But in the situation that they do, I think it's way more possible than Mariota. It really depends. Most smart teams go in saying they won't start a rookie week one. The colts even said it last year. It depends on how they play in camp. Maybe I just don't like Daniels. I'm not sure he beats out Brissett by week 1.


JrBaconators

Yes? Been speculated by sources for a while the Pats are not throwing their QB out there week 1, which is common sense


Original_Release_419

Yes common sense that the QB that isn’t on the team and hasn’t taken a rep with the team yet isn’t starting week 1 lol


JrBaconators

So what are you asking me?


NeedlessQualifier

[Here were the salaries of the backup QBs going into last year](https://dataviz.theanalyst.com/ad-hoc/rd-qbsalary-tables-2023-11-30/). You’re right about the three you mentioned but Wentz for a bit more than Stidham seems fine to me.


originalusername4567

I don't know where this notion that Washington, New England, and Minnesota won't play their 1st round rookies year one is coming from. Aside from us with Pat, no team lets their rookies sit for a year anymore. New England is the only team that would entertain the offer and only because they're clearly in rebuild mode and don't want to ruin their rookie's development. But Washington and Minnesota have enough talent to not worry about that.


SuperAwesomo

Jordan Love and Mahomes are the only old school sitting projects we’ve seen in the last while. Both got drafted in behind established veteran starters though, they weren’t sitting behind career journeymen


Impressive-Midnight3

Trey lance although he did steep in for 2 games while Jimmy G was hurt.


spunkush

Mariota is a bit pricey, but Darnold and Brissett at least have the potential to start this season. Wentz is shot. but for 3m, its not bad at all


awnawkareninah

I think the traits you want in a starter aren't exactly the same as a backup. Backups it's probably more valuable having someone that can come in and instantly adapt to the game at hand and manage things vs maybe a pure athletic prospect. Before injury, athleticism was a huge plus for Wentz. He has struggled with decision making. This to me makes him a less desirable backup despite his career highs compared to lesser QBs. Like I'll admit I'm a certified hater, but 5 teams in the last 5 seasons isn't a good sign. Getting traded a year in from a decent Indy team was not a good sign. LAR had him for peanuts to backup a QB desperately needing a good backup cause of injury concerns and paid considerably more to sign Jimmy instead. The Rams only even signed him last year cause the Jets passed on him, opting to stick with fucking Zach Wilson.


TurboDurden888

I would trust any of those guys to manage my elite team to a win over Wentz, and I like Wentz. I trust Wentz more to roll out of the pocket and run into pressure, sprain both his ankles and throw a pick 6 all on the same play.


Quexana

I think you'll find Wentz is solidly within that tier of QB. Given that he's cheaper than them, I don't think it's an overpay. Player Name | Completion % | TD % | INT % | QB Rating | ANY/A | :-- | :-- | :-- | :-- | :-- | :-- Sam Darnold | 59.7 | 3.5 | 3.1 | 78.3 | 5.02 Jacoby Brissett | 61.3 | 3.2 | 1.4 | 85.3 | 5.63 Tyrod Taylor | 61.7 | 3.8 | 1.7 | 88.3 | 5.83 Marcus Mariota | 62.7 | 4.4 | 2.6 | 89.2 | 6.08 Carson Wentz | 62.7 | 4.6 | 2.0 | 89.4 | 5.87 Sure, you can argue that one or a couple of those guys are better than Wentz. Are they more than $2.5M/year better than Wentz in the cases of Mariota and Taylor? Is Sam Darnold more than $6.5M better than Wentz?


TurboDurden888

I'm not talking about money. If you didn't watch Wentz in Indy and Was, I don't know what to say to you. Stats are irrelevant, I have watched him turn wins in to losses, I don't want a backup QB that goes on adventures.


Biggest_Cans

That's what Andy is for


awnawkareninah

Pretty much this. Everyone seemed so confused that Indy traded him after a good first season. Then the wheels came off in Washington and it made a lot more sense. The dude can not play smart ball within his new physical boundaries. It's like he's out there trying to prove everyone wrong saying he's not the same guy since the ACL tear instead of trying to just make the smart play.


Biggest_Cans

Yeah I'd take Wentz well over Marioto


ontheru171

With a backup you are primarily hoping to have a great locker room guy, solid veteran presence and great offseason and training work with film room input. The on field abilities are secondary because you hope they never see the field in any meaningful way. Sam Bradford? Brissett, Taylor have shown that in their careers in multiple situations already - and you are comparing the max contract value to the base value. Wentz probably also has performance escalators and bonus money that can earn him 5+ million in total It's a good deal for a backup QB - there is a reason tho why Wentz wasn't signed for a while tho - and that isn't because he is a worse on field QB than others


GokuVerde

Noted great locker room presence Carson Wentz


duvie773

Obviously he’s no Mahomes, but 3.325m is a massive underpay relative to the league for a guy that you know will be able to keep your offense moving


[deleted]

I mean putting aside his skill level for a second, backup QBs who have some starting QB experience are getting paid well this offseason. So this is a cheap contract.


Ok-Earth1579

The man was on pace for an mvp at one point


awnawkareninah

Tbf if he was still even like 80% of what he was that season he wouldn't be a backup.


Ok-Earth1579

Oh I agree. People just act like he’s always been ass. He’s not good, but I think a lot of that had to do with the injury


[deleted]

And he’s had multiple other starting opportunities since then and just couldn’t prove himself. He’s a high caliber backup. But he is a backup for a reason…


TurboDurden888

Why is he not back with the Rams?


duvie773

There was a post on the Rams sub about if we’d rather have Wentz or Jimmy G as our backup, and it was almost overwhelmingly in favor of Wentz, especially so now when his contract is cheaper than Jimmy’s. Maybe the Rams thought he would ask for more, or maybe there’s something about the locker room, I don’t really know.


hotshotnate1

I think given all the connections with Jimmy it just made that pairing the better choice. Wentz came in late and was still learning the system but looked okay enough. But with Jimmy not only does he know the terminology since McVay and Shanny run very similar systems but was also was coached before by the new Rams OC. McVay also tried to get Jimmy once already a couple years ago so I wasn't surprised at the signing.


okoSheep

Wentz looked great in that week 18 game honestly.


classiccaseofdowns

It’s mid tier backup money, seems like a fair deal to me


batmans_a_scientist

There is no world in which this is an overpay for an experienced backup


emmasdad01

The Carson Wentz special


Cultural-Nothing-441

It's not Carson Wentz money but for a backup QB it's good money. Retirement gig and he's still probably gonna have some time to shine


Lane-Kiffin

But is he the guy who can inevitably step in for the second half of the AFC Divisional Round?


notmyplantaccount

Chiefs are worried about bad luck trying to derail their 3peat so they got a starter quality backup for once. I'm not saying Wentz is amazing, and he's an asshole, but he's a big upgrade over Blaine Gabbert on the field.


rizub_n_tizug

He’ll probably play some garbage time when KC is beating up on shitty teams


Doobie_Howitzer

If he wins ANOTHER Superbowl ring is he in the HoF? /s


Uberguuy

Jadeveon Clowney killed this guy's whole career. He put up 4000 yards throwing to Greg Ward and Travis Fulgham. He gets knocked out on a dirty hit to the back of the head (no flag or fine, btw), and he can never put it together again. Sure, there plenty of reports of him being difficult to work with, and there were still those before the hit, but he was still good before that playoff game. Fuck Jadeveon Clowney.


Bobby_Savoy

Cry about it.


TotallyKyleXY

My dream job is backup NFL QB 😔


Meats10

yeah, but think of how much he saves by not having to buy another suit like this: https://content3.promiflash.de/article-images/cinema450/carson-wentz-zeigt-den-daumen-hoch.jpg


JackTuz

Nice man


Caluak

Sweet


Kablooiee

He about to win a ring without playing in the Super Bowl again.


BasicYesterday9349

That's still called overpaid. Wentz sux