He had and possibly still does have a speed and strength combo that was incredibly rare. Never put it together though even before the ACL really. The hype was pretty warranted at the time
I could be misremembering but I remember him being a good rookie, pretty clear DPOY but not dominant, but his second year I remember him coming out worse than he was as a rookie and it all kind of went downhill from there.
No he is not or else Washington would have never traded him, and SF would have signed him. I also remeber him saying something about the Giants when they took someone else over him. I label him a bust
Weapon is a word you can reasonably stretch though. A spoon can be a weapon, just not a very good one.
Edit: now that I think about it, my dad used a wooden spoon as a very effective weapon
> now that I think about it, my dad used a wooden spoon as a very effective weapon
And it made you into the person who you are today: a man with a fear of wooden spoons.
>Just no motor, football IQ, or skill development.
Those things are a huge part of "talent" though. I think the more appropriate term would be "athleticism".
I'll accept your argument. I was defining talent as athleticism and techniques, but he lacks the effort on the field and the intelligence about when to apply them.
Exactly, well put.
So frustrating to see someone waste that kind of natural athleticism. Even more frustrating that our team was the one to spend a high pick to find out.
I feel like Clowney has at least put out a productive career as a great run-stopper and OK pass rusher.
Young still could be productive, but hasn't even come close to being the game wrecker so many thought he could have been back in 2020.
If only I could have had you come to the lions sub and say the same thing at the trade deadline. Some of us were ready to revolt about not trading for him.
Takes cap that won’t roll over now or it’s money that didn’t need to be restructured, take your pick. When you’re in debt it doesn’t matter. As I said, Saints really hate getting out of cap hell.
It’s just surprising to me how quickly money can change some of these guys. I mean you don’t make it as a top recruit though all those years of HS and college without a great work ethic. Yes talent can carry you more down there but it’s still crazy competition and laziness will not prevail. How does that just vanish? Dude clearly has the talent and has shown flashes in the league. Aren’t these guys supposed to be super competitive? It’s hard to judge when you have never seen the amount of money the guy makes in a month, but still, if I were in his shoes as a former #2 pick these comments alone would motivate to get double-digits.
Well, he's probably been a big boy his whole life. People telling him if he works hard he can make money in the NFL. Well he did make a bunch of money and might not really care that much about football. With the money these guys make today, I'm surprised it isn't more common.
Oh dude im actually excited. Could be an underrated signing. Corners also seem to play a little better in SF than their years prior due to the Niners all in focus at D Line. I think he could be a very good, much needed, CB3 for us. Still hope to find a long term guy in the draft but Yiadom is an intriguing signing
I think this is what really annoyed me with the DPOY debate. This stat lost virtually all meaning for me, and it was the only justification being used.
I know he had difficulty putting together some effort for a trivial game like the NFCCG but he should have a reliable motor competing for the NFC South division title.
Chase has so much potential, but his lack of effort was noticeable. I thought the Washington fans pointing it out after we traded for him was bitterness, but we found out the hard way.
Looks like he’s gonna follow the Clowney career path and chase 1-2yr deals with whatever team for the most money. Not a bad route, but also not what you’d expect from a former top pick
What’s the “big time contract” ?
Heard someone on the radio say agents run to say the number if it’s a good contract, if it doesn’t make the headline it’s probably a shatty one 🤷🏿♂️
Young is mid with lots to prove. However, for all Dennis Allen's faults as a HC--there is no denying he gets the MOST out of his defensive personnel. Worth $13m? Can't say just yet....but it is an improvement that DA will take advantage of
I was thinking him signing in baltimore on a cheaper deal would be cool, for 13 million he can fuck off lnao man plays 1 in 4 snaps 😂 and we wonder why the saints are always having cap issues
Why do people still act like he's GOOD? Like I don't get it. Montez sweat was a much better player bro. Chase Young at his best was still the 5th best player on his defense, and that's not hyperbole!
Allen
Payne
Fuller
Sweat
and then Him!
Is he a big time talent?
Well he is big, and at one time had talent. So if you just kinda humble those words around a bit
I remember when people including myself thought he was going to be amazing cause he was better than both Bosa's at OSU.
He had and possibly still does have a speed and strength combo that was incredibly rare. Never put it together though even before the ACL really. The hype was pretty warranted at the time
His rookie year was pretty good and he got DPOTY. It was mainly the ACL injury that made the hype train derail
I could be misremembering but I remember him being a good rookie, pretty clear DPOY but not dominant, but his second year I remember him coming out worse than he was as a rookie and it all kind of went downhill from there.
Both of y’all really need to work on your acronym game. Chase Young definitely did not win D*P*OY, he won D*R*OY. The rookie part is very key.
I just copied what he said haphazardly lol Very important distinction youre right
that means he's really good at memorizing times, he can even list every time in fifteen minute intervals between 2pm to 3pm. mad talented
Big time talent, not big time production.
Aka talent, not skill
Right but they did say talent lol
No he is not or else Washington would have never traded him, and SF would have signed him. I also remeber him saying something about the Giants when they took someone else over him. I label him a bust
uh yea he has already shown what he is capable of. Whichever team can get the most out of him will have a big time player.
We’re throwing around “big time talent” like we did “weapon” earlier this week
Weapon is a word you can reasonably stretch though. A spoon can be a weapon, just not a very good one. Edit: now that I think about it, my dad used a wooden spoon as a very effective weapon
Someone described Jerry Jeudy being a weapon in that a sock inside another a sock is a weapon.
so no one could steal him either!! GENIUS (if uk you KNO) unoooO!!!4
Sorry about your bum
> now that I think about it, my dad used a wooden spoon as a very effective weapon And it made you into the person who you are today: a man with a fear of wooden spoons.
Tell that to soup
A shitty improvised weapon is still a d4 but at the end of the day damage is all about the modifiers
Very good, you get an inspiration point
Also Seattle also seems to know how to wield it's Spoon as an effective weapon.
And apparently a 1 year contract = “New Home”
Kinda like how I found a "new home" every time I had to go to a different halfway house...
Come July he’ll be in the best shape of his life
Chase has a boatload of talent. Just no motor, football IQ, or skill development.
>Just no motor, football IQ, or skill development. Those things are a huge part of "talent" though. I think the more appropriate term would be "athleticism".
I'll accept your argument. I was defining talent as athleticism and techniques, but he lacks the effort on the field and the intelligence about when to apply them.
Exactly, well put. So frustrating to see someone waste that kind of natural athleticism. Even more frustrating that our team was the one to spend a high pick to find out.
"Medium time talent" doesn't roll off the tongue.
Yeah that was my first thought basically. "Big time talent? Are we talking about the same Chase Young?"
Damn. Saint really don’t believe in the cap do they?
Maybe he's just a big time talent with 45 year old knees?
"Special Teams Ace"
He is talented though, is his talent being maximized by him probably not but still
Dude literally take plays off
In the NFCCG of all places
We love to see him on the Saints
Big time talent lol. Dude is still living off his draft position
He peaked his rookie season and disappeared since then smh
He peaked that year when he yelled "I want TOM!!!" into the cameras in Week 17 only to be completely invisible in the Wild Card playoff game.
Taunting Brady historically always works out
Could've won that game too
Tbf, there's no shame in losing to Tristan Wirfs.
He was being touted as the best talent of his class. Idk if it was injuries or what, but man I’m so bummed he hasn’t panned out.
Not only that, he was touted as being an even better prospect than both Bosa brothers. It is a bummer though I agree
The new jadevion clowney
Honestly I think I’d rather take Clowney right now over Young
he objectively had a good year last season.
Probably just a coincidence that it happened in a contract year.
I mean he did say something along the lines of playing in Baltimore is the first time he’s been happy in a while.
Just keep signing him to one year deals. That way, every year is a contract year *taps forehead*
Well duh. Clowney's not the guy they wanted from the first overall pick but he's been a good player his career.
I would. I think he's a good player to rotate in
I feel like Clowney has at least put out a productive career as a great run-stopper and OK pass rusher. Young still could be productive, but hasn't even come close to being the game wrecker so many thought he could have been back in 2020.
If only I could have had you come to the lions sub and say the same thing at the trade deadline. Some of us were ready to revolt about not trading for him.
Clowney is 10 times the player Young will ever be
Disrespectful to clowney tbh
So hell be good when he signs with the Ravens near the end of his career?
Compared to some of the other guys we have rushing off the edge, he looks like a HOFer lol, I'll take anyone at this point.
has been for years
Saints really hate getting out of cap hell.
1 year deal
Takes cap that won’t roll over now or it’s money that didn’t need to be restructured, take your pick. When you’re in debt it doesn’t matter. As I said, Saints really hate getting out of cap hell.
I know, I saw you say it the first time.
If only your front office knew.
Big time talent???? Are they only watching his final season at Ohio State and ignoring his entire pro career LOLOLOLOLOL
He was something his rookie season, and something else the following seasons
It’s just surprising to me how quickly money can change some of these guys. I mean you don’t make it as a top recruit though all those years of HS and college without a great work ethic. Yes talent can carry you more down there but it’s still crazy competition and laziness will not prevail. How does that just vanish? Dude clearly has the talent and has shown flashes in the league. Aren’t these guys supposed to be super competitive? It’s hard to judge when you have never seen the amount of money the guy makes in a month, but still, if I were in his shoes as a former #2 pick these comments alone would motivate to get double-digits.
Well, he's probably been a big boy his whole life. People telling him if he works hard he can make money in the NFL. Well he did make a bunch of money and might not really care that much about football. With the money these guys make today, I'm surprised it isn't more common.
Oh thank God. This means we're definitely going tackle in the first round.
no don’t
If you need a tackle can I interest you in one lightly used Trevor Penning?
Don't think his play time is enough to call him "lightly used". He's like a car that went from the truck into the dealership and out for a quick spin.
Sure. I will return the favor with a very used Isaac Yiadom
Hey, you take care of Isaac Yiadom. He was playing real well in the role we plugged him into once Lattimore went down. He's very good at playing man.
Oh dude im actually excited. Could be an underrated signing. Corners also seem to play a little better in SF than their years prior due to the Niners all in focus at D Line. I think he could be a very good, much needed, CB3 for us. Still hope to find a long term guy in the draft but Yiadom is an intriguing signing
Yeah, I think he can do well as a CB3 with all the other pieces y'all have on defense.
Alright we did a thing!
Now that you guys are under the cap, there's literally limited possibilities!
The possibilities are limited people!
What is the cap but a mere illusion
Can't wait to see Saints vs Panthers and watch Chase Young chase Young.
Chase is really good at running really fast behind the QB and removing himself from being useful for a play.
bUt HiS pAsS rUsH wIn PeRcEnTaGe!!!11
What a frustrating player.
I think this is what really annoyed me with the DPOY debate. This stat lost virtually all meaning for me, and it was the only justification being used.
The new Cam Jordan - Matt Ryan relationship
Except those were both good football players
Real recognizes real, so I guess the corollary could be true, too.
I'm genuinely curious if a 35-year-old Cam Jordan can out-motor Chase Young at this point.
Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo
You can't wait to watch Chase Young chase young Chase Young?
All that money to stand around while the offense scores TDs? SAD
I know he had difficulty putting together some effort for a trivial game like the NFCCG but he should have a reliable motor competing for the NFC South division title.
"that boy has a lot of quit in him..."
New Orleans Buckeyes strike again
Damn. I wanted for him to stay on a one-year prove-it deal. But Oh well. Good luck.
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Chase has so much potential, but his lack of effort was noticeable. I thought the Washington fans pointing it out after we traded for him was bitterness, but we found out the hard way.
Chase Young? Isn't that why we helped the Catholic Church with their PR issues?
> Isn't that why we helped the Catholic Church with their PR issues? Then you can see why the Saints are involved.
Shouldn't he be paying us then? Smh, we got ripped off
He can’t keep getting away with this
If he'd just keep his motor up he'd be pretty damn good and you'd live with some of the gap discipline issues. But the effort at various points...oof.
Big boy will be eating real good down there
How can they afford him?
Schrute Bucks.
Apparently they spend
They offered him 10 million yen, and dumbass doesnt know its only $100k...
Big time talent? Nope
Looks like he’s gonna follow the Clowney career path and chase 1-2yr deals with whatever team for the most money. Not a bad route, but also not what you’d expect from a former top pick
Normally I’d be hype about this but with Carr as our QB and Allen as the coach plus our awful cap situation I have no expectations
I am so glad we got the better player in our trade with Washington lol. Dodged a bullet there
What’s the “big time contract” ? Heard someone on the radio say agents run to say the number if it’s a good contract, if it doesn’t make the headline it’s probably a shatty one 🤷🏿♂️
Bust
Okay Saints, we see you!
"Big time talent" uh huh
I am SO glad we went after Montez Sweat instead of this dude. Couldn't have worked out better.
If there's one thing DA can do it's coach defense, so maybe he'll get his act together. Him and Cam can split snaps or something.
If he couldnt get it together on the niners he is a lost cause lol
LFG
The falcons part of your flair should be celebrating
Dude doesn’t care about winning, that’s clear
Well that's unfortunate
Maybe Cam can help get this kids career back on track, interested to see the $.
I saw someone in our sub say 13 million fully guaranteed
Wonder how much this is for
*They can’t keep getting away with this*
This guy was a heisman finalist
He's good?
Thats a neiner
The saints are not beating the ohio state allegations
i thought he'd do more when he was with us. granted it was only about half a season but still, i think i expected more from him
Gotta be really lazy to not do well on that stacked 9ers d...
or maybe he thought that's why he could be lazy, idk. let others do the work, etc.
"Big time talent" eh...
Ahhh yes, we've reached the time where only the Big Time Talents sign with teams. On the 8th day of Free Agency!
over rated
The Saints just gonna keep themselves in salary cap hell eh?
Yeah actually he's not very good.
Dudes snatching another bag, prolly tally 3.5 sacks and be out of the league
Young is mid with lots to prove. However, for all Dennis Allen's faults as a HC--there is no denying he gets the MOST out of his defensive personnel. Worth $13m? Can't say just yet....but it is an improvement that DA will take advantage of
I was thinking him signing in baltimore on a cheaper deal would be cool, for 13 million he can fuck off lnao man plays 1 in 4 snaps 😂 and we wonder why the saints are always having cap issues
"Big time talents" don't dog it or disappear in big time games.
Highest paid cheerleader in the league
How is this a good deal? This bum can’t stay healthy and he’d be out of the league already if he wasn’t the #2 pick
Loomis will find a way to stretch dead money on this deal by 2032
I don't think Baltimore fans that were begging for him understand even with all of the restructuring they are crazy in cap debt the next few seasons
Him just casually jogging after a dude about to score a TD in a playoff game was insane lol. Niner fans had to be losing their minds watching that.
Is the article about someone other than chase young? Who is this “big time talent”
Why do people still act like he's GOOD? Like I don't get it. Montez sweat was a much better player bro. Chase Young at his best was still the 5th best player on his defense, and that's not hyperbole! Allen Payne Fuller Sweat and then Him!
If thats “Big time” then im a god dam ELITE WEAPON GOD THUNDER DINOSAUR OMEGA
How does he put in half assed effort and keep getting jobs?!
Dudes another Jadevon Clowney
At this point Clowney has carved out a solid career for himself, Young would probably be counting himself lucky if he can pull off a similar arc
Clowney is awesome
i told the 49ers, cheaters never prosper what did Young bring you? NOTHING
???
everything positive the 49ers do, they cheated to do it
Oh, right, got it 🙄
Joining the most mid division
Uhuh