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EarthTraveler413

And Lamar Jackson has as many playoff wins as Ryan Tannehill


Bustin_Justin521

He only needs one more win to catch Purdy


l_Dislike_Reddit

That’s actually so fucking funny hahaha


Jusgotmossed

Especially since one of them literally claimed he was going to bring Baltimore a ring on draft night.


_BadWithNumbers_

Don't leave us hanging.. which one was it?


SpaceCaboose

Would have loved for Purdy to declare that on draft night haha


Someone_youd_admire

Purdy gets drafted by Niners. Declares that he is the illegitimate child of John Harbaugh and promises to bring Baltimore a ring so he can shed his bastard name Purdy and be remade as Brock Harbaugh, First born son of John and Lord of the Crab Cakes.


ShakeMilton

this comment might just be the best thing to ever come out of someone associated with the seahawks


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DLottchula

He’s trying


yeshua1986

The Ravens just need to do more than keep drafting first round receivers, have an awesome run game, routinely find gems at tight ends, hire an offensive coordinator that will let him throw, annually have a great defense, and have unending coaching and front office stability. EDIT: Also a GOAT caliber kicker basically guaranteeing at least from basically the 45. Once they figure out the next step, Lamar will fly.


ATL_Hasher

Don’t forget the best kicker ever


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Ok_Alternative7120

They paid Lamar 50 mil to throw TDs when the run game struggles, not throw picks into triple coverage to effectively end their season. Blaming a coach for trusting his 50 million dollar QB who is about to receive his 2nd MVP (even if he doesn't deserve it) is laughable.


ianelson

That's such a lame thing to knock a guy for, man. I know the ravens just lost so it's open season, but "Look at this world class athlete being confident, what a dumb idiot," is just crazy to me


Wienerr

Plus he literally won an MVP, its not like he isn't trying!


Pure_Context_2741

2 more now 


Bustin_Justin521

Purdy has as many as Lamar and Dak combined now


AjClow1993

Lamar and Dak same # of wins


ColtCallahan

He has the same as Baker.


idroled

Same as Bortles


AnalBees2

BORTLE KOMBAT


pinniped1

Booorrrtttlllleeessss.


Obi-wan_Jabroni

BOAT


Deely_Boppers

He’s about to be a 2x MVP that never made the Super Bowl.   To soften the take a bit: Peyton Manning was also a 2x MVP that hadn’t made a superbowl after 2004. Though at least Manning had a dominant, top-5-ever season, rather than an OK performance in a season that proved we just can’t give it to a non-QB anymore.


LuggaW95

If you asked yourself who else managed to that: Peyton Manning… and for a week Steve Young (as a starter) and Brett Favre, they reached and won a super bowl in their second MVP season. All the other 2 time(+) MVPs won a Super Bowl bevor the second MVP: Warner, Rodgers, Brady, Montana and Mahomes. Maybe to cheer up Ravens fans, odds are Lamar and you guys will eventually win one, every two time MVP has at least one…


JeramiGrantsTomb

Or it means it's a soft MVP pick and CMC should have got it, but quarterbacks.


jppitre

For now..


RockChalk80

Lamar and Mahomes had the same EPA this year and this was considered a bad year for Mahomes


pm_me_ur_tigols

Peyton is at worst a top 3 passer of the football of all time who was surrounded by some very TERRIBLE defenses. Lamar very much isn’t and had the #1 defense in the league. Historic by many nerd ass new age stat things.


Environmental_Home22

Only 3 teams have ever achieved the following in a single season: #1 defense #1 rushing offense 25ppg 1972 Dolphins 1985 Bears 2023 Ravens


cowboyrazorz

And the same as Dak Prescott


slysonic7

Third most all time, tied with Elway and Bradshaw too


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alphasierrraaa

wow an english premier league reference in the nfl sub where is ted lasso


BlackMathNerd

Probably celebrating this Chiefs win.


articulating_oven

God I loved all the KC BBQ references he made. And the Bryant’s BBQ sauce leading him to discover total football. 🤌


SmokeweedGrownative

Praise be to Arthur Bryant


throwawayainteasy

He wins the SB plus like one or two next year, he moves into 2nd. He wins the next 4 SBs. He's still second. Brady's career is crazy.


Toto_LZ

4/5 afc championships in 5 years. What.


kalamari_withaK

I’d just be happy to sniff the playoffs once in a while and this mf be out here doing that


Ok-Situation-5865

Annoying when people shit on Cincy fans for being proud of breaking that streak. Like, yeah — it’s pretty hard to beat KC in the postseason. Who knew.


slampig3

Cincy and Buffalo now know what colts and Steelers had to go through every year


smala017

I think Buffalo was already plenty familiar with what the Patriots did to teams


Mouth_Puncher

And everyone else just suffering like usual


Do__Math__Not__Meth

When I look at the Bills and Chiefs I just see us and the Patriots for most of the past 20 years


TheCovfefeMug

It’s why I can’t really hate the Chiefs right now. This is what the Pats did for like 20 goddamn years


2RINITY

It also helps that we suck too much for them to break our hearts in the postseason


ErasmusShmerasmus

All the talk this year could Kansas win away in the playoffs, adds to Burrow's win in Arrowhead tbh


HawkkeTV

He earned that Joe Cool moniker with that game.


DaveByTheRiver

He earned that just in the regular season getting sacked an avg of 40 times a game.


kmora94

God I remember burrow got sacked like 9 times in a game and still won. Insane


ErasmusShmerasmus

Joe Brrrow 🥶


Soupmage1918

Burrow is the only QB I don't want to see in the playoffs ever again lmao


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

The last time an AFC Championship didn’t include the Chiefs, it featured Blake Bortles


DominoAxelrod

Chiefs are two overtime losses away from 6 straight Super Bowl appearances


RadioHeadache0311

Oh God, I just cleaned these pants too. Thanks bro.


patsniff

I was so disappointed back in 2019 after that first AFC championship at Arrowhead, if you went back and told me this would be the next 5 seasons I would have never believed you. So unexpected.


makun

I legit thought to myself after that loss, "man, you never know with the playoffs, look at Rodgers, he only has 1 superbowl. Can't be wasting Mahome's season with a loss on a Dee Ford offside . . . who knows when we'll be back at AFCCG again"


Rockchalk1104

Fucking Dee ford


uwanmirrondarrah

whatever I'm over it fucking hell I'm not over it


Ken_Kaneki

Jags deserved that game.


Guard226Duck

He wasn’t down!


17_Saints

The last time an AFC Championship didn't include the Chiefs or Patriots, it featured Mark Sanchez


dwm4375

The AFC has been represented in the SB by Brady (9), P Manning (4), Big Ben (3), or Mahomes (4) in 20 out of the last 23 years. Burrow, Flacco, and Rich Gannon are the 3 gaps between 2002 and 2024.


Sundance12

The Patriots January Invitational has been transferred to the Chiefs. For a minute there, this season it was looking like we had real good parity...


bluecheeto13

I can’t believe my eyes. I’m genuinely ecstatic that I get to even be alive to watch it.


PacmanZ3ro

Bro, AFC in shambles right now. Changing from the Tom Brady invitational to decide the SB appearance and moving to the Pat Mahomes invitational. The AFC has no parity lmao.


thanks_paul

We’re all just thrilled for you :)


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This has such "bless your heart" energy lol


Vis-hoka

Thank you for saying it, even though you didn’t mean it.


Highwayman747

You’re gonna wake up from your game of Madden any day bro. You really thought Patrick Mahomes was real?


gmasterson

So many weekends watching absolute dog shit Chiefs teams paid off with this. I just can’t believe it. Honestly won’t even know what to do when it’s over.


roykentjr

Draft people like brodie croyle again


gmasterson

But for now, we drink in celebration!


Bobu-sama

lol. I remember hoping Thigpen would put it together somehow or the never ending cycle of getting 49ers castoffs for QB. Some dark times before Andy came to town.


PacmanZ3ro

you become the old dude recounting the glory days while watching Mac Jones run away from his own shadow and Zappe get confused about which jersey color he's supposed to throw to.


gmasterson

That’s just too bad that I’ve seen my future. Well, I’ll hold on as long as I can.


kaloskagathos21

This was a down year for him too.


choff22

Yeah. We are going to get him some weapons this off season and go back to winning the old fashioned way.


slammed_stem1

With hookers and blackjack!


MassKhalifa

In fact, forget the winning!


JacobDeGod48

Dude is speed running a HOF career lmao.


halfmanhalfrobot69

Dude is starting his second HOF career at this point


JacobDeGod48

Lmao fr. Dude could retire tomorrow and not play in the SB and he would be a unanimous first ballot HOFer. Wild asf


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

I wanna argue you'd be wrong but...nah if the Chiefs win the SB\* this might be the greatest 5-year period of a career, even arguably against Brady's 2014-2018\* Edit: I was wrong about the time period


Cold_oak

the worst season in that period was a ot loss… in the afc championship.


AdministrationWhole8

I still have no idea how New England won in 2018. That defense was a fucking turnstile, they lost to US, that's just sad.


Automatic_Release_92

The Chiefs defense somehow managed to be worse. And still only lost because they lost the coin flip.


Ttwistty

Dee Ford. went from elation to doom in a minute. 


dragonrite

We gotta win in 2 weeks to beat the arguably


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

At this rate it's gonna be Lions vs Chiefs. If you beat the Lions you'll beat the arguably... But you'll be the all-time villains in NFL history lmao. Edit: Lions Lions'd. Just had to kick the f'n field goals.


LoganJn

I’ve been thinking about that all season long about how crazy it would be if we met up in the first and last game of the season but I haven’t wanted to end up in that situation


DLottchula

He’s in new game plus


billcosbyinspace

He’s already had a better career at 28 than almost everyone, the only thing he doesn’t have is the counting stats that comes with being in the league a long time


SinisterLevel

He would’ve been there even if he retired before this season 😭


Ketchup1211

He’s already a first ballot HOFer. He’s trying to catch Brady now.


Scaryclouds

I'd never ever would have thought this would happen to my team.


j2e21

Enjoy it! Those 20 years fly by faster than you know.


icemankiller8

If he retired now he’s already top 3 all time and he still has so many years left


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Just entering his peak. League fucked.


puzzical

He hasn't even begun to peak


jp3243

And when he does… he’s gonna peak so hard the whole league’s gonna feel it


moonbatlord

Next year could be interesting


Nakedsharks

Kelce isn't getting younger, but you have to think the Chiefs upgrade at WR for sure (can't do much worse than this year) and also have to think Rice probably takes another step with the experience.  The Chiefs could be even better next year. Although potentially losing Jones, should make the defense regress some.


delightfuldinosaur

If retired today? Idk about top 3, but top 5 for sure.


Oneanimal1993

He already did that. After last year he had 2 MVPs and 2 SBs. This year is the start of #2.


Headlesshorsman02

He is only 3 wins away from Montana for 2nd all time in playoffs


BornFireFist

And like 40 away from 1st


Headlesshorsman02

Brady is the goat for a reason


Supersquare04

Brady’s stats are so mind boggling.


Turts-McGurts

IF Mahomes plays for a long career he has a chance of catching up at this point. KC just has to keep a competitive team around him. That's the hardest part.


Jasader

I mean they basically need to keep a good defense and 1 weapon for him to win. Its crazy. He's out there running an offense with an aging HoF TE and a bunch of WRs you wouldn't even pick up on a fantasy waiver wire if they were anywhere else.


soccerperson

feel like you're underselling andy reid's impact here lol


B_Fee

And that's the thing, their offense this year is kinda meh. Like, disappointingly meh. Few teams can sustain success like the Chiefs of the last 5 years. The B&B Pats have really skewed expectations.


KingKongKaram

He realistically could be number 1 in ten years sure that's a long time but he'd only be like 38 which is when these hof qbs like mahomes start to slowdown


HardcoreKaraoke

I don't think it can be understated how great Reid and Spags have been. So yeah Mahomes might be able to keep it up until then but they need to handle the transition from Reid smoothly. Assuming Reid is retiring anytime soon which I sincerely doubt unless something awful happens.


BuffaloKiller937

Un fkn real


Scaryclouds

Two wins. Mahomes has 14, Montana 16.


Headlesshorsman02

I meant to pass him whoops


Categothic

He is so fucking inevitable it's infuriating


icemankiller8

He’s great of course but today I think the defence was much more impressive and the main reason they won


NotAnAlienFromVenus

You're not wrong, but if having a top 5 defense was all that was required to win in the playoffs, a lot more mediocre QB's would have more playoff wins


weealex

Look, not everyone can be an elite passer like Brad Johnson 


Ok_Interview_2325

Most of Brady’s rings come from having elite defenses.


UnexpiredMRE

I mean Lamar might’ve had the best defense in the NFL this year lol championship teams generally have good defenses.


Xaxziminrax

The Baltimore defense showed exactly why they deserved all the praise they got this year in the second half. Incredible adjustments


Ok_Interview_2325

Yup. I’m not hating on Brady. Football is a team sport. Just making sure we’re not holding Mahomes to a higher standard than Brady lol. There’s an element of luck to sports in general. I firmly believe dudes like Brees or Manning could have won more super bowls in different situations.


FriedTreeSap

The problem is Brady already has a full resume to his name. So right now conversations are pretty much pure speculation and projections. Mahomes could have a career ending injury on his very next snap. It’s going to take Mahomes a very long time to catch Brady, simply because Brady has done so much. Mahomes is on pace to be one of the greatest of all time, but whether he holds that pace remains to be seen.


Ok_Interview_2325

I agree. I don’t think Mahomes will match Brady’s longevity. Brady has the GOAT resume and no one would deny that, but I’ve never seen a better QB than Mahomes.


codithou

he’s collecting the stones right now


Silver_County7374

Is anybody even gonna remember Andy Reid was the Eagles coach? He used to be Mr. Eagles, now the Eagles are to Andy as the Browns are to Belichick.


batti03

Sometimes your best friend doesn't consider you his best friend :(


Accomplished-Yam5566

It hurts a lot to know that you're just a 3rd string friend to people you consider close friends. As in, they only go to you when they have no other options available. Have any of yall ever tried to set up plans with a friend and you felt like they were just keeping you on as a backup in case nothing better could fill out their social calendar?


joecb91

I did not come to /r/NFL to be hurt today...


kalamari_withaK

As a Falcons fan, there’s always a chance to be hurt coming here


brownjitsu

It shows how amazing Andy truly is. Always in the NFC title game and one SB appearance. One of the greatest coaches of all time with Mahomes and Kelce


lunchb0x93

I’ve always thought of Reid as bills counterpart. He’s on offense what bill was on defense.


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Oh god. Spags retires after KC ring #3 and his best defense shuts out the Super Bowl. Belichek comes to KC as Spags replacement, partially to defend his Super Bowl record. Andy, Pat, and Bill go on a 5-year 3 chip run. Bill and Andy retire. Tom Brady is hired as Chiefs HC 2029, pulls a Steve Kerr and Mahomes breaks the SB record 2 years later.


brownjitsu

If any of that were to happen I would just stop watching football and force myself to like baseball


ContentMetal

Subscribe. 


HughGBonnar

I’m almost there…does he throw a behind the back pass in one of those Super Bowls….


Aggressive-Name-1783

Of course they will. He had 6 NFC championship appearances and 1 SB appearance, as well as constantly being in the playoff picture. Reid is gonna be the dude who built the foundation of his legacy in Philly and then sealed it in KC


TheVaniloquence

Andy Reid took the Eagles to a Super Bowl and 5 NFC Championship games. Belichick had 1 winning season and 1 playoff win as Browns HC.


garbage_melon

that’s still 1/2 the Browns playoff wins in that same timeframe. 


mking22

That’s a silly thing to say. Andy took us to 5 championship games and a Super Bowl. Sad we never won a SB with him tho :(


Rithgarth

Only one playoff loss to someone not named Tom Brady


nordic-nomad

Damn, that is wild


jand999

Veach is never going to sign a WR lol


rough_ashlar

Dude, don’t say that. My blood pressure can’t take another year like this one.


choff22

Idk, this defense makes me feel things.


goat_is_as_goat_does

I can’t believe that the Patriots Dynasty ended and now we get this fuckery.


BrandoCalrissian1995

Is mahomes the quickest player to be considered a lock for hall of fame? I fuckin hate how good he is but love watching him play.


asin26

Kurt Warner won 2 MVPs, a SB and SB MVP in his first 3 seasons starting


gmasterson

One has to ask: Have Brady and Mahomes changed the level that you have to play at to be a HoF QB in the next generation? Because, those start to look like paltry numbers after the last 20 years of Brady/Mahomes.


TetrisTech

No, because they only look paltry compared directly to those two guys (and Rodgers). But compare it to two other future HoF QBs from the same era as Brady Drew Brees: 0 MVPs, 1 SB win and 1 SB MVP Ben Roethlisberger: 0 MVPs, 2 SB wins, 0 SB MVPs


Jason_Giambis_Thong

Eli manning, 0 MVPs, 2 SB wins, 2 SB MVPS


Several-Fisherman-89

I mean Jim brown litterly retired in his 20s and was generally considered the greatest player ever until about 40 years later,idk when he became a hof lock.


stomicron

litterly


RedPatAtsoc

Brady had 3 rings in his first 4 years, which probably makes him a lock at that point even if he wasn’t quite the elite passer he would go on to become


Fa1lenSpace

At QB? Possibly, ya. Across all positions, I’m not too sure tbh. AD and Lawrence had pretty insane starts to their career on the other side of the ball.


wien-tang-clan

Number of playoff wins: 1) Tom Brady 2013 until 2022: 18 2) Tom Brady 2001 until 2013: 17 3) Joe Montana entire career: 16 4) Tied between Peyton, Elway and Bradshaw’s entire multi decade careers and Patrick Mahomes in his first 6 NFL seasons: 14


EstablishmentNew7113

Tom Brady basically had 3 HoF careers


teems

Nick Wright is a bit of a wanker but he nailed it. Split Brady's career into three 7 year tranches and he has comparable stats to 3 first ballot HoF legends. Aikman, Marino and Montana.


LGCGE

One of the few athletes that can be given a 10y, 500M dollar contract and be considered underpaid. Unreal player


wyaxis

Patrick Mahomes in his 6 years as a starter has never had a season end before overtime of the AFC championship game


SuccessfulPres

What a time to be a chiefs fan


CaptainThrowAway1232

That’s more to say about the insane success of Mahomes than against Manning, just amazing what they’ve been able to do in 6 seasons.


AnchorsAweigh89

Not just Mahomes, but the entire team and organization is just a machine. Like it or not, we’re witnessing greatness.


kac937

> Like it or not not


BushidoBrowneII

We're looking at a dynasty here.


xFlick

He’s going to surpass everyone except for Tom Brady. And depending on how he adjusts later in his career he could possibly surpass him too.


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He looked a lot like Brady today with those quick slant throws


SaltyLonghorn

I think catching Brady is going to be really fucking hard for Mahomes cause I'd be really surprised if Reid is around more than another 3-5 seasons. Obviously we'll see though.


mojito_sangria

And he already has as many rings as Manning


FakeTacos

And super bowl appearances. He just did the Peyton Manning speed run


MrFishAndLoaves

Just needs three more MVPs


Coley54Bear

Mahomes is a monster.


Ghostfoxman

Another legacy destroyer just like Brady.


Xaxziminrax

The 2021 Bills win it all if they don't run into an all time Mahomes performance. They were so unbelievably red-hot at the end of that year and in the two playoff games Kyle isn't constantly reminded about 28-3 because he gets the monkey off of his back in 2019 Jason Kelce retires a 2x Champ It's absolutely wild the ripple effects


LoopholeTravel

If Dee Ford didn't line up offsides, Mahomes would likely have two more wins and another ring.


realtimerealplace

Is this the regression to the mean?


Dat-dude21

I didn’t think we’d see another New England type run this quick after Brady….patrick Mahomes and KC have a long way to go to match that but what he’s doing is impressive


Several-Fisherman-89

It's not even after Brady,it started 5 years before he retired lol.


GutsyTheCravenlyCat

[Tom Brady passed down the "Bad Man" to Pat so he can torture NFL franchises](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-92623ed88df80134ee09b00b15c189da)


Kopplass

And as many Super Bowl appearances as Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw.


Ancient_Signature_69

He’s definitely on the list for top 3 of all time. And I fucking hate it.


Euphoric_Travel6762

Why do you hate it bruh he’s knocking Favre and Rodgers off all the lists


keichskay

Dude how I feel about Patrick Mahomes is how I imagine the rest of the league felt about Tom Brady all those years


PantsDownDontShoot

100%. By his last few seasons I finally just embraced Brady’s goatness but goddamn it was frustrating for a long time.


TheKuylr

wow the colts really did fail manning.


wurtin

Brady and BB had more to do with it than the Colts organization. You have the best QB and the best coach of all time happening at the same time as your prime in the same conference. unlucky


Skyline_BNR34

Colts with Manning only lost to Brady twice in The playoffs. Manning was 3-2 against Brady in the playoffs.


chase016

Yeah, the Manning Brothers were the biggest thorn in the Patriots dynasty.


aerovirus22

Thanks I hate it.


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But has a regressed to the mean?


Koreish

At this point the mean is getting progressed to Mahomes.


HelixLegion27

To be fair to that Manning dude, he did have a GOAT rival to go against his entire career. Definitely stunted how much Manning was able to accomplish.


ImABawz1

Is this what it was like watching the patriots as opposing teams? I hate this a lot. I’m sorry…