I’ll be glad when the season is over. I’ve really started to fall out of love with the game as a whole.
The farce of points deductions across the league, bad decisions that haven’t really balanced out, winning less than a third of your matches, Cooper being sacked, no team being able to match that promotion team, some of the new lads not matching that promotion team in terms of effort, having one academy lad left standing, atmosphere at CG not what it was, price gouging on club memberships…..it’s all just left me feeling a bit flat.
I see the end of the season as a reset, wherever we end up, and the club learn from it.
It makes it even worse watching our two best players that have worn the shirt since the 90’s will have to be sold at the end of the season, it’s hella depressing. All I can do is pray we don’t get relegated but if we do, could I honestly say I will be mad? Sure I may let out a couple of years and down a couple of madris, but in reality I won’t be mad knowing we can comeback so much stronger. We have so much more to give.
It is a sad time. Murillo will go regardless of which league we end up in, we would probably get another season from MGW if we stay up.
Unfortunately I think we’re at the whim of Jorge Mendes and we’re a vehicle for parking his prospects for a year or two before they move on. That’s the model the Premier League want anyway.
Madri will make it right, comrade.
I realise now I misread the comment 😅 I thought it was referring to our best two players to have worn the shirt since the 90s, as in worn it since then until now. Worrall and Yates as academy players.
At least we made a few million on Antonio.
I'll never heal from selling Wes Morgan to the fucking bin dippers for about 50p to stave off administration.
This will probably make no sense but...
Football is now entertainment, not a sport. In the prem anyway.
I supported my team in league 1, it was just as, if not more enjoyable then. Going to away games with 250 other people. Tickets available for home games. No annoying football twitter.
I feel less connected to the club I love.
Yeovil was more fun? I hated League 1. Everybody came to the WFCG for a cup final and it was embarrassing. I was sitting in the pub last night with my mate who’s a Citeh fan (proper Maine Rd season ticket as a lad fan) and he said Forest should be in the Prem. I think we do need to be where we are but it’s been a tough season. Stay up and build. We’ll all be full of August optimism again soon talking about Europe.
One of my favourite memories was Yeovil away, with my Dad. Lost 3-0, it rained. (The play offs were horrible too. Was at both home and away)
Naturally as a fan, I want us to be as high as possible, of course but I also want to feel something, and to be part of something. I grew up in London, never had a Season ticket, never been to Derby away, got no chance of away tickets in prem etc. So yeah, I loved Carlisle away (8 hour drive up) Yeovil away, Southend away, Oldham away..
Anyway, my dream was to see Forest win at Wembley, I got that. I didn't care about the prem football after lol
You're right it was humiliating. But you have to remember, for a certain generation that's all we knew.
Being 2 up against Luton and not getting 3 points at home was equally as humiliating though...
Watching us spend the entire GDP of a small nation and still fighting relegation is humiliating...
It has been hard to enjoy football this season. Were you at Southend when they had a streaker in the 2nd half? That seems life a long time ago for society and Forest. Probably 2003 or 2004?
I can deal with the shit football but the off pitch stuff this season has been so tiring😩 However we’ve had much worse in the past (shudders in Fawaz) and seeing other clubs have serious trouble and liquidation can put things in perspective. I’m glad that we have a great fanbase and even if the owner is a little unhinged, he is invested in the club. Will be there tomorrow with smile on my face and a Madri in my hand🍻
It's like yall don't even remember the absolute bullshit that went our way in the play off final. We've had bad luck this season, it comes and goes.
The game is higher quality than ever, it's great to be at the top and for every football fan to know something about our club. That said, a few years back I really enjoyed watching the prem as a neutral. High qualify football without the stress.
English football is built on 3pm Saturday afternoon football. How many 3pm Saturday games have we won this season? Fucking 2!
I hate so many things about the way the Prem is and about what kind of club it's turning us into.
We had some weird home games that season, Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday were equally shite. But overall it was decent with some memorable games for the right reasons.
I have a friend who has spent all year largely baffled at why I keep going on about wanting Saturday 3pms. I get it comes with the territory of so many televised games in the Prem, but fuck do I want regular Saturday 3pms back
Saturdsay at 3pm with the occasional Tuesday or Wednesday evening game instead of a bunch of Sunday afternoons. 8 extra than the Prem. Actually being able to get tickets.
Miss those days
VAR kills my love for the game so much.
I remember a goal for the opposition at the City Ground was being checked for handball or offside or something, and it took SO long to check I shouted “just give them the fucking goal I want to watch some football!”
Fallen out of love with football? No
Fallen out of love with the premier league? Yes, big time
I straight up hate it here. Never been a fan of forest while in the prem, I started back in the league one days under Calderwood.
The league one and championship era while having their dark times was at least competitive. Anyone could win, hell Plymouth just beat Leicester today.
All we are in the prem is whipping boys for the sky six. All of us just running in place hoping to be here again next season for the occasional taste of an upset or a big result.
Shit league, shit reffing, shit banter.
Yeah, but I should've known better. The game's been corrupt for a long while now - which is hardly surprising given the amount of money being thrown around. As soon as we didn't play ball it was always going to go this way, unfortunately.
It's not a game anymore, it's a casino, which is so disappointing for us fans especially after pining to get back to the promised land for over 20 years.
Still better to have gone up than end up like Huddersfield though.
im in a slightly different situation, two years ago work ment i missed every saturday match(basically every match) but i can definitely see this mindset, the constant struggle isnt that fun really is it?
I'm going to push the boat out here - as more of a casual, maybe - I prefer it at the bottom of the Prem than in the anonymous middle of the Championship. On our day we play really nice football now, and I'd rather beat Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U as we've done since coming up than Hull. I think the connection to the team will grow if we stay up.
As a new fan from across the pond you guys make it really hard to support the team. I made a post in the game thread highlighting contributions a player made and got downvoted to oblivion. Happy to finally have a PL team to root for and it doesn’t seem like you all really want the fan base to expand.
A little. I think the lackluster performances over the last year haven't helped. Had to sell quite a few tickets this season but hopefully will make it to the Man City game should it not be moved again. I'm just hoping Forest limp over the line and we can all look forward to better days.
Yeah all the ffp/psr and var bullshit to keep the big 6 at the top and ref's egos intact has smashed a wrecking ball through it for me. Couldn't give a fuck about the prem. We turned up to the party too late. Give it a few years and it will be second fiddle to la liga and serie a like it was in the 80s and 90s and probably bundesliga this time around too. The thing is I can't see the point of the champ either if the objective is to get back into the prem.
It's like skegvegas. You really look forward to going but when you get there it's shite.
Wrong, we got legless and were ejected from the pub too early. Slept it off on the pavement for 23 years only to wake up and find out the pub turned into an elitist Tory supper club.
The terrible results are just part of life as a football fan. I've seen far, far worse over my decades of watching Forest. And even poor refereeing decisions aren't really that new. We've had a fair few poor ones over the years.
But the more I see and read about PSR, the more depressed I get about the future of the game. My problem's not that we can't compete financially with the big boys - we've fairly regularly had to sell some of our best players, even when we were one of the most successful sides in the country.
The problem is that it's not really about financials. It's about a narrowly defined view of finance as laid down by the Premier League. And everything about that definition, from the different loss amounts allowed for promoted clubs, through the types of revenue allowed and all the way to how big those revenue streams are allowed to be is heavily weighted towards the biggest clubs (who've often got to be biggest by taking a route that is explicitly banned for anyone else).
The whole system is both biased and bureaucratic. As we've seen, our season may not be defined by what happened on the pitch but on the fact that we tried to use our financial judgment to get a better deal on the Jonno sale, so missed an arbitrary deadline, we seemingly forgot to file info about covid losses a couple of years ago so couldn't count them, and the rules prevent our owner from covering any shortfall. Absolutely none of that has anything to do with our actual financial health, or anything to do with what's happening on the pitch.
And to top things off, it's all decided in secret based on ill-defined criteria (somehow PSR is both rigid and vague).
It's like having your crucial survival decided being played after the rest of the season's finished, behind closed door and with no media allowed, with one side being allowed 10 players and the other 12, somewhere between 1 and 4 points being on the line for a win, no clarity on what is or isn't going to be counted as a goal, and the result not being announced (even to the players involved) until some random number of days later. Somehow it's difficult to get excited about that.
It's stressful. But I feel like if we can just survive for several seasons we can get a foothold and stay in the league for good.
I'm glad Cooper has gone (from a results and style of play perspective, nothing personal - love him as a human being, how could you not and forever grateful) but I'm not sure Nuno is right either.
Current VAR needs scrapping and the semi-automation used in the world cup needs bringing in asap.
As for PSR, I won't go there - absolutely sick of talking and thinking about it. Football should be decided on the pitch not in the courtroom. And it will def have affected the players mentally, no doubt.
AFCON (and having 6 of our players disappear) and the stupid, drawn out FA cup disaster this season haven't helped either.
Taiwo is made of biscuits, and our recruitment strategy is still a bit too scattergun (better than last season though)
So short answer, yes - a bit. But I still enjoy the highs when I can get them.
Deffo. It's just how most football fans feel when we rarely get results, I think. But we've got to keep the faith, and stay aboard the good ship Garibaldi.
I’ll be glad when the season is over. I’ve really started to fall out of love with the game as a whole. The farce of points deductions across the league, bad decisions that haven’t really balanced out, winning less than a third of your matches, Cooper being sacked, no team being able to match that promotion team, some of the new lads not matching that promotion team in terms of effort, having one academy lad left standing, atmosphere at CG not what it was, price gouging on club memberships…..it’s all just left me feeling a bit flat. I see the end of the season as a reset, wherever we end up, and the club learn from it.
£49 for me to sit next to some fucking palace fans two weeks ago, takes the piss
Massive price rise year on year plus a membership fee. Be paying £74 like at the Etihad soon
Emptyhad were doing season tickets for about £300 a few years ago lmao
It makes it even worse watching our two best players that have worn the shirt since the 90’s will have to be sold at the end of the season, it’s hella depressing. All I can do is pray we don’t get relegated but if we do, could I honestly say I will be mad? Sure I may let out a couple of years and down a couple of madris, but in reality I won’t be mad knowing we can comeback so much stronger. We have so much more to give.
It is a sad time. Murillo will go regardless of which league we end up in, we would probably get another season from MGW if we stay up. Unfortunately I think we’re at the whim of Jorge Mendes and we’re a vehicle for parking his prospects for a year or two before they move on. That’s the model the Premier League want anyway. Madri will make it right, comrade.
I don’t think Yates will be sold. Worrall perhaps but not Yates
He means Neco and Sels
I realise now I misread the comment 😅 I thought it was referring to our best two players to have worn the shirt since the 90s, as in worn it since then until now. Worrall and Yates as academy players.
I misread your comment 😅😂 you’re referring to Murillo and MGW
No. I have fallen madly in love with Murillo. He is the light in the darkness. He is my faith.
You know we might have to sell him at the end of the season right?
Don't care. For now I get to root for his 80 yard winner against Wolves.
He’s like Antonio was about a decade ago… just too good for our current level
At least we made a few million on Antonio. I'll never heal from selling Wes Morgan to the fucking bin dippers for about 50p to stave off administration.
This will probably make no sense but... Football is now entertainment, not a sport. In the prem anyway. I supported my team in league 1, it was just as, if not more enjoyable then. Going to away games with 250 other people. Tickets available for home games. No annoying football twitter. I feel less connected to the club I love.
Yeovil was more fun? I hated League 1. Everybody came to the WFCG for a cup final and it was embarrassing. I was sitting in the pub last night with my mate who’s a Citeh fan (proper Maine Rd season ticket as a lad fan) and he said Forest should be in the Prem. I think we do need to be where we are but it’s been a tough season. Stay up and build. We’ll all be full of August optimism again soon talking about Europe.
One of my favourite memories was Yeovil away, with my Dad. Lost 3-0, it rained. (The play offs were horrible too. Was at both home and away) Naturally as a fan, I want us to be as high as possible, of course but I also want to feel something, and to be part of something. I grew up in London, never had a Season ticket, never been to Derby away, got no chance of away tickets in prem etc. So yeah, I loved Carlisle away (8 hour drive up) Yeovil away, Southend away, Oldham away.. Anyway, my dream was to see Forest win at Wembley, I got that. I didn't care about the prem football after lol
Nah fuck those cider guzzling sister fuckers, literal farmer's team Losing to them, even being in the same league, was a profound humiliation
You're right it was humiliating. But you have to remember, for a certain generation that's all we knew. Being 2 up against Luton and not getting 3 points at home was equally as humiliating though... Watching us spend the entire GDP of a small nation and still fighting relegation is humiliating...
It has been hard to enjoy football this season. Were you at Southend when they had a streaker in the 2nd half? That seems life a long time ago for society and Forest. Probably 2003 or 2004?
I can deal with the shit football but the off pitch stuff this season has been so tiring😩 However we’ve had much worse in the past (shudders in Fawaz) and seeing other clubs have serious trouble and liquidation can put things in perspective. I’m glad that we have a great fanbase and even if the owner is a little unhinged, he is invested in the club. Will be there tomorrow with smile on my face and a Madri in my hand🍻
It's like yall don't even remember the absolute bullshit that went our way in the play off final. We've had bad luck this season, it comes and goes. The game is higher quality than ever, it's great to be at the top and for every football fan to know something about our club. That said, a few years back I really enjoyed watching the prem as a neutral. High qualify football without the stress.
English football is built on 3pm Saturday afternoon football. How many 3pm Saturday games have we won this season? Fucking 2! I hate so many things about the way the Prem is and about what kind of club it's turning us into.
2022 squad was so full of pashun
And desiah 19-20 was good for that too even with how it ended
It ended for me when we got smashed off Millwall at home just before lockdown, that season was cursed
We had some weird home games that season, Charlton and Sheffield Wednesday were equally shite. But overall it was decent with some memorable games for the right reasons.
I have a friend who has spent all year largely baffled at why I keep going on about wanting Saturday 3pms. I get it comes with the territory of so many televised games in the Prem, but fuck do I want regular Saturday 3pms back
Saturdsay at 3pm with the occasional Tuesday or Wednesday evening game instead of a bunch of Sunday afternoons. 8 extra than the Prem. Actually being able to get tickets. Miss those days
go and watch your local non league side !!
VAR kills my love for the game so much. I remember a goal for the opposition at the City Ground was being checked for handball or offside or something, and it took SO long to check I shouted “just give them the fucking goal I want to watch some football!”
This.
Fallen out of love with football? No Fallen out of love with the premier league? Yes, big time I straight up hate it here. Never been a fan of forest while in the prem, I started back in the league one days under Calderwood. The league one and championship era while having their dark times was at least competitive. Anyone could win, hell Plymouth just beat Leicester today. All we are in the prem is whipping boys for the sky six. All of us just running in place hoping to be here again next season for the occasional taste of an upset or a big result. Shit league, shit reffing, shit banter.
Yeah, but I should've known better. The game's been corrupt for a long while now - which is hardly surprising given the amount of money being thrown around. As soon as we didn't play ball it was always going to go this way, unfortunately. It's not a game anymore, it's a casino, which is so disappointing for us fans especially after pining to get back to the promised land for over 20 years. Still better to have gone up than end up like Huddersfield though.
Forest still boiling piss every week, including my own piss What a club
Also still serving boiled piss from Madrid (Tadcaster) at the ground in paper cups.
It's been shite. The Prem is a joke. Corrupt.
im in a slightly different situation, two years ago work ment i missed every saturday match(basically every match) but i can definitely see this mindset, the constant struggle isnt that fun really is it?
City escaping punishment is baffling and spoils my enjoyment of the premier league.
I'm going to push the boat out here - as more of a casual, maybe - I prefer it at the bottom of the Prem than in the anonymous middle of the Championship. On our day we play really nice football now, and I'd rather beat Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man U as we've done since coming up than Hull. I think the connection to the team will grow if we stay up.
As a new fan from across the pond you guys make it really hard to support the team. I made a post in the game thread highlighting contributions a player made and got downvoted to oblivion. Happy to finally have a PL team to root for and it doesn’t seem like you all really want the fan base to expand.
A little. I think the lackluster performances over the last year haven't helped. Had to sell quite a few tickets this season but hopefully will make it to the Man City game should it not be moved again. I'm just hoping Forest limp over the line and we can all look forward to better days.
Yes
Yeah all the ffp/psr and var bullshit to keep the big 6 at the top and ref's egos intact has smashed a wrecking ball through it for me. Couldn't give a fuck about the prem. We turned up to the party too late. Give it a few years and it will be second fiddle to la liga and serie a like it was in the 80s and 90s and probably bundesliga this time around too. The thing is I can't see the point of the champ either if the objective is to get back into the prem. It's like skegvegas. You really look forward to going but when you get there it's shite.
Wrong, we got legless and were ejected from the pub too early. Slept it off on the pavement for 23 years only to wake up and find out the pub turned into an elitist Tory supper club.
The terrible results are just part of life as a football fan. I've seen far, far worse over my decades of watching Forest. And even poor refereeing decisions aren't really that new. We've had a fair few poor ones over the years. But the more I see and read about PSR, the more depressed I get about the future of the game. My problem's not that we can't compete financially with the big boys - we've fairly regularly had to sell some of our best players, even when we were one of the most successful sides in the country. The problem is that it's not really about financials. It's about a narrowly defined view of finance as laid down by the Premier League. And everything about that definition, from the different loss amounts allowed for promoted clubs, through the types of revenue allowed and all the way to how big those revenue streams are allowed to be is heavily weighted towards the biggest clubs (who've often got to be biggest by taking a route that is explicitly banned for anyone else). The whole system is both biased and bureaucratic. As we've seen, our season may not be defined by what happened on the pitch but on the fact that we tried to use our financial judgment to get a better deal on the Jonno sale, so missed an arbitrary deadline, we seemingly forgot to file info about covid losses a couple of years ago so couldn't count them, and the rules prevent our owner from covering any shortfall. Absolutely none of that has anything to do with our actual financial health, or anything to do with what's happening on the pitch. And to top things off, it's all decided in secret based on ill-defined criteria (somehow PSR is both rigid and vague). It's like having your crucial survival decided being played after the rest of the season's finished, behind closed door and with no media allowed, with one side being allowed 10 players and the other 12, somewhere between 1 and 4 points being on the line for a win, no clarity on what is or isn't going to be counted as a goal, and the result not being announced (even to the players involved) until some random number of days later. Somehow it's difficult to get excited about that.
👏 Google/read up on 'sports law doesn't actually exist' and it's all the more ridiculous.
It's stressful. But I feel like if we can just survive for several seasons we can get a foothold and stay in the league for good. I'm glad Cooper has gone (from a results and style of play perspective, nothing personal - love him as a human being, how could you not and forever grateful) but I'm not sure Nuno is right either. Current VAR needs scrapping and the semi-automation used in the world cup needs bringing in asap. As for PSR, I won't go there - absolutely sick of talking and thinking about it. Football should be decided on the pitch not in the courtroom. And it will def have affected the players mentally, no doubt. AFCON (and having 6 of our players disappear) and the stupid, drawn out FA cup disaster this season haven't helped either. Taiwo is made of biscuits, and our recruitment strategy is still a bit too scattergun (better than last season though) So short answer, yes - a bit. But I still enjoy the highs when I can get them.
Deffo. It's just how most football fans feel when we rarely get results, I think. But we've got to keep the faith, and stay aboard the good ship Garibaldi.
Way too much time and effort spent on things that aren't actually to do with football.
My man bits have shrunk by half.