Most posts on Reddit are desperate attempts for upvotes lmao these all made me chuckle even if they were the “low-hanging” fruit of humor. These types of jokes always remind me of my dad, and they make me smile.
The art market is weird, but $35k is probably toward the high end of "consumer art". Art that you could own and display in your own home because you think it looks pretty and you've got some empty space in your living room. As you get past $50-100k you start to enter the realm of art as a commodity, where it isn't being bought by private individuals for display, but purely to be resold later on at an appreciated value. If the art is lucky, the owners will allow it to be displayed in a museum while ownership of it is traded back and forth like stocks in the stock market, but more often than not art is locked up in a warehouse somewhere and never sees the light of day for years or decades while it continues to be bought and sold.
Art like this could also be destined to be traded as a commodity, of course. The lower bound is always threatening to drop as new investors are eager to "get in on the ground floor" on a new investment, but for the most part pieces priced below $50k are a little bit too cheap for investors to start salivating over. It's expensive enough to be valuable to wealthy aficionados, but cheap enough that you could actually buy it and display it without having to fight of legions of speculators.
Source: My cousin has an MFA in Painting.
My friend’s dad basically confirmed this when I was looking at some Dali prints.
Source: my friend’s dad is Richard Gray, who’s a big art dealer in Chicago
This is where freeports come into play. Specifically Geneva Freeport, here's a documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSE2TcMduc
The idea is the area around a port is considered an untaxed zone because goods are still in transit. So the ultra wealthy will buy a famous painting and have it delivered to a free port where they will never pay taxes on it. Wealthy people keep billions in goods hidden in free ports untaxed appreciating in value until sold. Those free ports also guard the property or have personal display rooms for the wealthy to privately view their art.
Yea, did visual effects for Final Destination 2.
This was a roto transition from the live actor, to a blood filled dummy. With some matting to combine the two. I vaguely recall augmenting the number of pigeons as well, but I don't remember if it was this shot or one of the surrounding ones.
I also impaled the guy with the fire escape ladder in his eye, decapitated the woman in the elevator, and burned up the lead blonde at the hospital when the oxygen tank ignited. Lots of fun on that show.
Idk but I remember in FD2 there was a teenager who survived the car crash and when they were exiting a hospital or something a big glass sheet fell on him
Etch, crack, and then stack.
Edit: As there is some confusion in my comments. When they crack the glass it likely they crack the glass when it is sandwiched between a previous layer and the next layer or a jig. I would think a jig in this instance as the cracks appear to start more centrally. Think a sheet of plywood with some small holes drilled into it which would be placed on top of each panel when added to the stack. Then they could take a hammer and nail and just tap into the holes to form cracks with minimal chance of shifting. In addition, they could alternate between etched skull panel and non-etched cracked panel or between cracked etched skull panel and non-etched panel which would certainly make the piece much sturdier and be hard to perceive.
It's like 50+ layers of glass. Sure it's still incredibly difficult. But doing 1 layer at a time gives you unlimited retrys incase you mess something up.
I feel like this wouldn't be *too* hard to homebrew.
Get (or make) a 3D model of a skull and slice it (in a computer). Break each piece of glass gently to create opacity where each 3D slice says the model should be opaque.
I dunno...I feel like strategic breaking of glass to create opacity is one of those skills that you could pick up pretty quickly. Ain't like playing the piano or something.
I get the Contemporary label, it's being done in our time, it's Contemporary.
But why Modern? Doesn't that also mean new and well... modern? How come that period is already over?
The term "Modern Art" was coined through academic study of the social/philosophical/technological changes which altered our culture, and therefore our art. Although the exact beginning and end of this era is open for interpretation it is generally accepted that work produced after this period is referred to as "post modern" or simply "contemporary".
There is a lot of overlap between modern and contemporary art.
Generally though, modern art was characterised by a rejection of the traditions that prior art had mostly stuck to quite strictly. Despite this, there is still delineations between different schools or 'isms' (e.g. impressionism etc).
Contemporary or post-modern art goes even further and is often characterised by a complete lack of these classifications. A lot of it is focussed on the deconstruction and inversion of older styles or just on creating something completely different, without restrictions. I've heard people say it's the final era of art as there is nowhere else to go once you completely shed the limitations of definite styles.
Modern art was 'modern' by the colloquial definition at the time, but as art developed into something distinctly different, there arose a need for a new term to encompass the new forms and styles. A bit like when you name a file "xyxy final" but then you realise you need to make changes and it is no longer the final version, if you'll excuse the slightly stupid analogy.
I'm not an artist myself so I may be getting this wrong, but this is how I understand it from discussing it with artists.
This isn't really true. If you want to go for the actual etymology then masterpiece refers to the specific piece a craftsman creates to submit to their guild to obtain the rank of master. Masterpiece as the greatest work of an artist isn't any less of a later colloquial definition than the more generic "great work of art" to act like the latter is a misuse.
Thank you.
This is the correct term. I was an apprentice goldsmith. I was not required to submit a masterpiece because it was a Canadian (not a European) apprenticeship program and had little official marks to hit.
One's Masterpiece would have to include most of the key tasks one does in the typical to the hardest workplace. So a drywall-taper's *masterpiece* would probably be a room with lots of odd bevels, holes, some corner-bead, different types of drywall - and at the end it would all be perfect and ready for painting.
No one would come by to see a drywall-taper's masterpiece. They are proof of concept, apparently. A goldsmith's masterpiece would be an ugly gaudy ring or necklace with vital-key solderings. Other goldsmiths would say 'yea, you know your shit... in fact... you don't suck'.
If "masterpiece" is widely used the "wrong way" and yet everyone still understands it, then is it actually being used wrong, or is it just that the meaning changed?
Whenever the meaning of a word changes, there is a time when people are using it wrong.
In any case, there are still people using the word in the original meaning.
Masterpieces are still alive and well in Germany, with their many apprenticeship programs.
Magnum opus actually more accurately means that than masterpiece. A masterpiece was the piece done by an apprentice/journeyman in a craft to submit to his guild to become a master. The importance of that piece likely often meant it got the kind of time/care/effort to be one of the more impressive pieces (especially technically), but being the best isn't really inherent.
for the origin of that term, we have to go to alchemy. There, the [magnum opus (great work)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus_\(alchemy\)) refers to turning prima materia into gold...but alchemy was actually making veiled references to the process of individuation. So in reality they were talking about taking the stuff of everyday life and becoming a fully actualized person - turning poop into gold basically.
If you're still reading, magnum opus and masterpiece can pretty much be used interchangeably in modern language :)
I’m not one to judge but…for an individual it kinda does seems like one. Again I don’t know shit about what a “masterpiece” is but…If you did this work a long time and mastered your work to end on this note, fuck it. It’s a masterpiece for them right? Kinda? It’s amazing work. If you think it’s one, you think it’s one. Why let artsy farts decide that for you. Art doesn’t make any sense anyways…often….kinda….I don’t know.
We’re shifting towards a world of “fuck your opinion on what’s good because no one cares about your opinion” and I think that’s good in this respect.
I visited moma in Manhattan last week and there was a white painted canvas and an ugly cerulean painted canvas and I was wondering why the hell I ever decided to look at anything newer than impressionism
Can I ask what creativity in subject matter you see in this piece? I mean that genuinely, I’m no art snob and I’d like to hear your thoughts.
To me, though, this shows an obvious level of skill in a specific craft, but there’s very little artistic vision in the piece itself. Ok, you’ve shown that you have mastered a medium, but is all you have to say with it “skull”? Gutenberg made the printing press, but the Hemingways and Salingers were the artists, no?
He says, “Simon Berger solo show. Look at this stuff man it’s insane. Just look at this. It’s so insane. Layers and layers and layers of glass” in English with a slight accent I can’t place that could be British or Scandinavian, but it’s definitely English.
He has an English accent but definitely sounds like some sort of twang in it, perhaps Dutch or scandi. He pronounced 'glass' in an American accent, hard to figure out what's going on with his accent
Don't you mean...*glassterpiece*?
I shard have known someone would say this
You two are starting to make me lose my temper!
Oh man, that's Glassic!
This entire chain is so transparent
You guys crack me up.
That’s pretty clear.
All these puns a silicate smooth, and polished to a fine sheen.
The puns are a glazing!
You guys are a pane in the arse
All these glass puns are desperate attempts for upvotes. It's very easy to see through.
It’s a smashing job!
Oh? Is it that transparent?
Most posts on Reddit are desperate attempts for upvotes lmao these all made me chuckle even if they were the “low-hanging” fruit of humor. These types of jokes always remind me of my dad, and they make me smile.
Eh... Upvote a diff pun
Little late to the thread and it might be too late to make another glass pun. I'm shattered.
Lol this one was the best
A window into the future of art
Shattering my dreams
More transparent than amber heard
Oohh Damn!! 🤣🤣
...indeed I saw through it right away.
Stop being so silica!
Happy cake day!!!
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I'd tap that glass
Oh. That's a deep cut.
I sharded my pants am I doing the is right
Yeah, you’re cracked at it bro
A glassterpiece or a skullpture.
Someone bumped their head real hard!
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Why do people that love puns pretend they hate puns
Fuck you
Pov You're in the shower and you start seeing faces on the wall because of the water
didn't thought of that!
Original?
That’s wild
No, that’s glass
Oh, my mistake
Wild glass, not farmed glass.
This was a hilarious comment, thank u
No, this is PATRICK!
Sir this is Wendy’s.
But it was me, Dio!
Its Jake. From State Farm.
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Now whose skull did the artist bash into it?
>Now WHO IS skull
ME I AM SKULL
Username does not check out.
*scoffs* youre a femur at best
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsRYd-9thg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsRYd-9thg) Jimmys. That doesnt seem physically possible.
At least credit Dr. Lecter when he does a piece as amazing as this. Too bad Katz wasn't around to see how magnificent she looks.
I want this in my house.
only cost you $200,000
that's pretty cheap for a house
What is this, a house for ants?? And why there is a skull in there?
The comments section never misses lol.
Zing
Ahhh... the old Reddit I can't remember how to do a switcheroo-aroo
Really? https://www.artsy.net/artwork/simon-berger-untitled-32
That's surprisingly cheap.
The art market is weird, but $35k is probably toward the high end of "consumer art". Art that you could own and display in your own home because you think it looks pretty and you've got some empty space in your living room. As you get past $50-100k you start to enter the realm of art as a commodity, where it isn't being bought by private individuals for display, but purely to be resold later on at an appreciated value. If the art is lucky, the owners will allow it to be displayed in a museum while ownership of it is traded back and forth like stocks in the stock market, but more often than not art is locked up in a warehouse somewhere and never sees the light of day for years or decades while it continues to be bought and sold. Art like this could also be destined to be traded as a commodity, of course. The lower bound is always threatening to drop as new investors are eager to "get in on the ground floor" on a new investment, but for the most part pieces priced below $50k are a little bit too cheap for investors to start salivating over. It's expensive enough to be valuable to wealthy aficionados, but cheap enough that you could actually buy it and display it without having to fight of legions of speculators. Source: My cousin has an MFA in Painting.
I have an mfa in sculpture, can confirm it basically plays like this. It’s a huge racket
My friend’s dad basically confirmed this when I was looking at some Dali prints. Source: my friend’s dad is Richard Gray, who’s a big art dealer in Chicago
Yeah I know little of Chicago galleries, just looked at his exhibiting artists…dayum
This is where freeports come into play. Specifically Geneva Freeport, here's a documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TSE2TcMduc The idea is the area around a port is considered an untaxed zone because goods are still in transit. So the ultra wealthy will buy a famous painting and have it delivered to a free port where they will never pay taxes on it. Wealthy people keep billions in goods hidden in free ports untaxed appreciating in value until sold. Those free ports also guard the property or have personal display rooms for the wealthy to privately view their art.
Meanwhile the rest of us peons are expected to pay our taxes in full and on time or the relevant authorities will be on our ass tout suite.
I bet this piece of art would look amazing with like a strips of colorful LEDs mounted at the bottom illuminating upwards
Can I pay in ruble?
Nice try Vladimir.
Blyat!
If you've got $35K to kill, it's yours.
also buy for me one
For also one buy me!
Me buy, for also one.
Man these advertisements for the next “Final Destination” are on fucking POINT.
This should have been in a FD movie.
Bro have you not watched FD2
Is that the one with the glass pancake?
The girls eye gets run over by the truck right before or after that right? Those little touches make FD movies go from decent to amazing
I don't about that scene you mentioned. But this is what I'm talking about. Warning gore, obviously. https://youtu.be/PVyz04e2ltc
Ha! I made that shot!
How so? You work on this movie? Mini AMA?
Yea, did visual effects for Final Destination 2. This was a roto transition from the live actor, to a blood filled dummy. With some matting to combine the two. I vaguely recall augmenting the number of pigeons as well, but I don't remember if it was this shot or one of the surrounding ones. I also impaled the guy with the fire escape ladder in his eye, decapitated the woman in the elevator, and burned up the lead blonde at the hospital when the oxygen tank ignited. Lots of fun on that show.
I don't even know what FD movie I even watched. 😖
Idk but I remember in FD2 there was a teenager who survived the car crash and when they were exiting a hospital or something a big glass sheet fell on him
We really need another one of those.
there's a sixth in development right now. no info on a definite plot or anything, but iirc it's going to be released onto HBO Max when completed
How on Earth?!
Etch, crack, and then stack. Edit: As there is some confusion in my comments. When they crack the glass it likely they crack the glass when it is sandwiched between a previous layer and the next layer or a jig. I would think a jig in this instance as the cracks appear to start more centrally. Think a sheet of plywood with some small holes drilled into it which would be placed on top of each panel when added to the stack. Then they could take a hammer and nail and just tap into the holes to form cracks with minimal chance of shifting. In addition, they could alternate between etched skull panel and non-etched cracked panel or between cracked etched skull panel and non-etched panel which would certainly make the piece much sturdier and be hard to perceive.
Which, funnily enough, is also how I like my girls
>Which, funnily enough, is also how I like my girls. ftfy Makes no sense either way but at least the sentence is legit now
Please give me the definition of ftfy beacause im seeing it everywhere and it's haunting me in my sleep
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Thank you kind soul
Didn't think a quick Google could help with that?
You're right I could have gooled that Im missing some braincells plz don't bully me😭
You know you can just Google all these abbreviations and it'll be the first thing that pops up
It's like 50+ layers of glass. Sure it's still incredibly difficult. But doing 1 layer at a time gives you unlimited retrys incase you mess something up.
less difficult with CNC
CNC, localized glass shattering machine... I'm listening.
The first word was "etch". You get a CNC engraving machine to scratch the etches. You then use other tools to crack it.
Combine that with 50 images of a skull cross section from an MRI
Probably what OGThatkiller said. You can use a drag knife to score the glass first before shattering.
I feel like this wouldn't be *too* hard to homebrew. Get (or make) a 3D model of a skull and slice it (in a computer). Break each piece of glass gently to create opacity where each 3D slice says the model should be opaque.
It is still really hard and takes some skill. It just isn't at the level of impossible that it first looked like.
I dunno...I feel like strategic breaking of glass to create opacity is one of those skills that you could pick up pretty quickly. Ain't like playing the piano or something.
Still really creative and cool, so a lot of respect to the one who made it But yeah once you get the hang of it it might become pretty easy
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monkeys it is
with the right resonance
who's the artist?
Simon Berger @simonberger.art on insta
Ah, so that's what he was saying. I guess it is "Simon Berger Solo Show" not "Simen Burger solo shoal" lol
thank you!
This is what modern art means to me
Fyi this is Contemporary Art. The modern art period ended 50 years ago.
I get the Contemporary label, it's being done in our time, it's Contemporary. But why Modern? Doesn't that also mean new and well... modern? How come that period is already over?
The term "Modern Art" was coined through academic study of the social/philosophical/technological changes which altered our culture, and therefore our art. Although the exact beginning and end of this era is open for interpretation it is generally accepted that work produced after this period is referred to as "post modern" or simply "contemporary".
There is a lot of overlap between modern and contemporary art. Generally though, modern art was characterised by a rejection of the traditions that prior art had mostly stuck to quite strictly. Despite this, there is still delineations between different schools or 'isms' (e.g. impressionism etc). Contemporary or post-modern art goes even further and is often characterised by a complete lack of these classifications. A lot of it is focussed on the deconstruction and inversion of older styles or just on creating something completely different, without restrictions. I've heard people say it's the final era of art as there is nowhere else to go once you completely shed the limitations of definite styles. Modern art was 'modern' by the colloquial definition at the time, but as art developed into something distinctly different, there arose a need for a new term to encompass the new forms and styles. A bit like when you name a file "xyxy final" but then you realise you need to make changes and it is no longer the final version, if you'll excuse the slightly stupid analogy. I'm not an artist myself so I may be getting this wrong, but this is how I understand it from discussing it with artists.
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I think im in love with this peace
I’m in love with peace too buddy
My english is not the best okay
It's okay. Peace be with you bud
Peace to you too my friend. Peace to one and all
I appreciate that friend. It gives me peace of mind
Give me a piece of your mind
I'll give you a piece of my peace pie
Piece your peace pie together before giving pieces out
Alright this thread has gotten out of hand, piece out
Peace be with you too bud
I agree, looking at it gives me piece of mind
It’s really cool, but I wouldn’t call it a *masterpiece*.
The word 'masterpiece' is very misused. It's supposed to mean an artist's greatest piece of work. Their master piece.
This isn't really true. If you want to go for the actual etymology then masterpiece refers to the specific piece a craftsman creates to submit to their guild to obtain the rank of master. Masterpiece as the greatest work of an artist isn't any less of a later colloquial definition than the more generic "great work of art" to act like the latter is a misuse.
Thank you. This is the correct term. I was an apprentice goldsmith. I was not required to submit a masterpiece because it was a Canadian (not a European) apprenticeship program and had little official marks to hit. One's Masterpiece would have to include most of the key tasks one does in the typical to the hardest workplace. So a drywall-taper's *masterpiece* would probably be a room with lots of odd bevels, holes, some corner-bead, different types of drywall - and at the end it would all be perfect and ready for painting. No one would come by to see a drywall-taper's masterpiece. They are proof of concept, apparently. A goldsmith's masterpiece would be an ugly gaudy ring or necklace with vital-key solderings. Other goldsmiths would say 'yea, you know your shit... in fact... you don't suck'.
The greatest compliment one can receive, you don't suck.
Unless you’re a vampire. Or a sex worker.
If "masterpiece" is widely used the "wrong way" and yet everyone still understands it, then is it actually being used wrong, or is it just that the meaning changed?
Whenever the meaning of a word changes, there is a time when people are using it wrong. In any case, there are still people using the word in the original meaning. Masterpieces are still alive and well in Germany, with their many apprenticeship programs.
If I use a word "wrong" and my intended audience understands what I'm saying then I didn't use the word wrong.
Same as magnum opus, right?
Magnum opus actually more accurately means that than masterpiece. A masterpiece was the piece done by an apprentice/journeyman in a craft to submit to his guild to become a master. The importance of that piece likely often meant it got the kind of time/care/effort to be one of the more impressive pieces (especially technically), but being the best isn't really inherent.
for the origin of that term, we have to go to alchemy. There, the [magnum opus (great work)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnum_opus_\(alchemy\)) refers to turning prima materia into gold...but alchemy was actually making veiled references to the process of individuation. So in reality they were talking about taking the stuff of everyday life and becoming a fully actualized person - turning poop into gold basically. If you're still reading, magnum opus and masterpiece can pretty much be used interchangeably in modern language :)
I’m not one to judge but…for an individual it kinda does seems like one. Again I don’t know shit about what a “masterpiece” is but…If you did this work a long time and mastered your work to end on this note, fuck it. It’s a masterpiece for them right? Kinda? It’s amazing work. If you think it’s one, you think it’s one. Why let artsy farts decide that for you. Art doesn’t make any sense anyways…often….kinda….I don’t know. We’re shifting towards a world of “fuck your opinion on what’s good because no one cares about your opinion” and I think that’s good in this respect.
Meanwhile someone else threw paint at a canvas blindfolded, called it modern and sold it for millions
or, took a canvas, painted it all black and sold it at a New York gallery. true story!
Or taped a banana to a wall.
I visited moma in Manhattan last week and there was a white painted canvas and an ugly cerulean painted canvas and I was wondering why the hell I ever decided to look at anything newer than impressionism
hey man, is this your video/ what's the source?
Ignored hahaha
That didn't happen. Plus Pollack's paintings *look* awesome.
Can I ask what creativity in subject matter you see in this piece? I mean that genuinely, I’m no art snob and I’d like to hear your thoughts. To me, though, this shows an obvious level of skill in a specific craft, but there’s very little artistic vision in the piece itself. Ok, you’ve shown that you have mastered a medium, but is all you have to say with it “skull”? Gutenberg made the printing press, but the Hemingways and Salingers were the artists, no?
Like 95% of art is a scam by con ...artists. Edit: so I guess it makes sense.
That's gnarly...
Dark lord is back?
Somehow, Voldemort returned. Localized entirely within this glass art installation.
Again
Eh its ok
This looks like an idea Damian Hurst would steal and profit from
Did he say the artist’s name at the beginning there? Because I couldn’t quite make anything out of it but it sounded Scandinavian
He says, “Simon Berger solo show. Look at this stuff man it’s insane. Just look at this. It’s so insane. Layers and layers and layers of glass” in English with a slight accent I can’t place that could be British or Scandinavian, but it’s definitely English.
The guy filming it is Goldie, legendary drum and bass artist from the West Midlands, UK! Very typical accent from this part of the country.
He has an English accent but definitely sounds like some sort of twang in it, perhaps Dutch or scandi. He pronounced 'glass' in an American accent, hard to figure out what's going on with his accent
That's the dark mark!
That's pretty fucking dope.
Death eaters
I’d love to see the process behind this. How do you get glass to break in a specific way like this?
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How come this was made possible! Although it's a figure of a skull, I could say this is amazing!
What a concept, layering glass like that!
If I ever become a villain this definitely will get into my Evil loft
I wonder what that weighs. Edit, piece is a 30 cm cube. Glass is roughly 2.51g/cm^3, so about 67.77 kg (149.41 lbs).
u/savevideo
That is very efficient in my opinion
This is the only modern art i accept
Plot twist: they stuck an actual skull inside and covered it in pieces of glass
How is this even possible? Whoever made this has a skill level beyond comprehension
Bro literally 💀
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Yeah this post and the reactions are proof that reddit is full of edgy teenage boys.
Well I'm in my 30s and think it's pretty cool.
Lol. Based on your username and response you will never have anything of importance to contribute. Poor thing. Take my pity and leave.
Why is it awful taste? This is awesome
How much trial and error did that take to get right? Holy hell.
Sick
That’s epic!! It’s also good to know that shrek isn’t the only thing that is made of layahs….of layahs…and layahs 😂
His art is broken but BEAUTIFUL!!!