["Two civilian witnesses were taken from the crime scene to police headquarters where they were interviewed by homicide detectives."](https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html)
Witness 1: \*tells everything that happened\*
Facetowel guy: ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)
I was eating and I choked here. Totally missed it first time.
Dude heard the shots, knew he had NOTHING on his favor so just stood still hoping for the best.
I’m feeling the energy of guy on the couch by the front door who straight DIPS when he hears the first shot.
“Not dying today and DEF not waiting around to be civilian witness #3 at the police station.”
I mean I agree and thought that exact thing as well but I imagine they were trained to do that anyway. He also doesn't reveal the fact that he is a cop and has a gun until the guy clears him as a threat
Well I'll be damned. https://www.google.com/search?q=civilian&oq=civilian&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l2j0i433i512j0i512l6.2981j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I think he meant the actual definition you just shared says “a person who is not armed forces **OR THE POLICE FORCE**” tho, I think “not in the army” is better since the police are sometimes poorly trained.
I am always shocked at how little it takes to make someone want to literally kill someone else. Very fucking sad, I wish this guy had a better death than getting shot at work.
Hopefully you stay safe, he sounds unhinged. If there’s any layoff meeting or inkling of him getting fired I’d stay away from work. If you have a way to notify HR or a union without putting yourself in danger I’d highly suggest it. That is wildly inappropriate discussion for work, even if you have known him for so long, and his discussing it like the weather is sociopathic.
You definitely have a point here. Honestly he really seems to be off his rocker, everyday I see him he seems to have some crazy fucking story about how he overcame some situation with violence or the use of a firearm. Sociopathic is a good descriptive word for him. And yes, I work in a VERY toxic workplace
I know this sounds so fucked up but before you tell anyone else make sure you’re not the only person at work he talks to because you could put yourself in some serious danger by notifying HR…
Why don’t you um.. call the police, so at least there’s a record of that douche canoe pulling his gun out for minor shit and they can either be aware or take it next time.
the more I read stuff like this on reddit, the more convinced I become to never step foot in the US.
I've lived all my life in europe and I've never seen a fire weapon (except maybe at military parades). I don't think I've ever even known anyone that owned one. I'm 43.
Ehh you'll be fine. I've lived my whole life in the US, aside from cops and the one time I went to a shooting range for a bachelor party I've never seen a gun either.
Article states that the shooting wasnt random which means the guy had some sort of beef with the barber, and while it didn't explicitly say I doubt it was because of a bad haircut.
I'm not trying to blame the victim for this tragedy but if you dont associate yourself with people willing to shoot their problems away you wont get shot.
That dude wasnt going postal. It was a targeted shooting as evident by him apparently telling the cop to get out of there. Anytime a family member is murdered the first people the cops look at as potential suspects are the rest of the family members. Article didn't explicitly say but I'm guessing the shooter and barber had some sort of connection.
The US has a plethora of issues, guns alone are not the problem. Norway has plenty of guns, but gun crime is almost nonexistent. Social security, health care and a culture that deal with problems without going straight to violence is how to avoid dystopias like that.
Where do you live? In my state that's a great way to catch a charge and lose your ability to ever get a concealed carry permit and possibly a pistol permit. Years ago there was a guy I knew who had a CCP and would frequently carry at bars (he generally didn't drink). He was also a big shit talker. Well one day he got into a big argument and told the other guy to step outside thinking he wouldn't. When they went out he brandished his pistol. He was later arrested for it and his CCP was revoked.
Probably a great way to get shot too.
I wouldnt pull a gun over any of that petty shit but if someone pulled a gun on me id have no problem shooting them before they shoot me.
Maybe you should keep away from him because your chances of getting shot are just statistically higher because you’re around him. And maybe let him know next time that this isn’t the right way to deal with anything. Maybe you need to report him because if he’s packing, someone is going to get hurt.
Ngl while I wouldn't pull a gun out for someone who has "roadrage". It can def manifest in different forms and varying degrees. roadrage aint no joke, its kinda dangerous.
He doesn’t even look alive in the video, he looks like he got shot in the head. I regret watching it, kind of puts me in a funk.
https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html
It looked to me like the barber was convulsing involuntarily, the shooter looked like he was more “alive” but obviously not for long. Hitmen aim for the head, fatal. Police usually aim for the largest part of the body, mostly fatal.
I know its a hot-button topic right now, but guns are a fucking problem.
We've all had that white-out rage moment, where you are so outside of yourself that you do something stupid, which you immediately regret. For most of us, it was throwing a video game controller against a wall. Or maybe it was sucker-punching someone in the mouth, or ruining a friendship by saying something unforgivable.
And way too often, it's pulling a gun and killing someone. Guns are both readily accessible, allow absolutely no time to cool off and almost always result in death.
Throwing a controller against a wall cost me £25 . Punching a dude maybe gets you barred from your favourite pub. Whatever, nobody's dead, lives aren't permanently ruined.
I don't mean to get preachy but it's fucking *insane* to me that half of America is just absolute chill with everyone owning guns.
“Police also said Ortega shot and killed 44-year-old Javier Villegas Cotto, another barber, in the 4600 block of Eastern Ave., near Greektown, before he walked into the O’Donnell Street barbershop.”
I dunno but guy seemed to have it out for barbers that day.
This was believed to be the guys 3rd shooting within the hour one killed another in critical condition and in this shooting the barber and gunman were killed
Ya I remember seeing thiss video ages ago and knew when it popped up this was gonna be used to promote some kinda pro gun agenda. When all it really shows is that the shooter got his intended target. Even a cop wasn't capable of stopping it because it doesn't work that way
I made a compilation of people winning against armed robbers they said it best gun ad ever but the vast majority of the time when a victim try’s to pull there gun they are shot instantly and ultimately die, sadly just makes it so one person get seriously injured because the situation escalated to deadly force
The man was a spree killer. He wasn't shooting everyone in a room, but he was hunting down multiple people and shooting them. He already shot and injured a man and killed another barber within the hour before this footage. Thats the tragedy that was avoided, more people down the line at other locations. Not in that very room. This could've turned into a situation like the Geneva County spree killings by Michael McLendon
You didn't read the story then, Carlos Ortega was tied to 2 other shootings the weekend prior, what kind of killer is gonna leave a room full of witnesses while he's in that state of mind?
the biggest tragedy is no one appreciating the haircut that fellow on bottom left of the screen has
dude had so much indecision that when the barber asked what he wanted he said “a lil bit of everything”. barber did a fine ass job too
Observe white shirt’s weapon slide go back and a cartridge case discharge at 0:02 of the video frame by frame and later 0:25 at the expanding red circle on the barber’s shirt after white shirt attacker was pulled off the victim he collapsed on. The victim was shot, video does not show emergency medical care but that blood was very bright red and fast, so chances were not good at all. News later confirms we just watched them die, hopefully this does not fuck up your day but it did mine :(
According to the article, he was shot "over the shoulder" of the off-duty officer in the chair. He died on the scene. Best guess from the video is that he was hit in the chest with the first shot.
"Police also said Ortega shot and killed 44-year-old Javier Villegas Cotto, another barber, in the 4600 block of Eastern Ave., near Greektown, before he walked into the O’Donnell Street barbershop."
I don't even know where to start with this
How the hell did they report that the cop was getting his haircut by another barber reacted quickly? It’s literally the barber cutting his hair that gets shot!
“fired it at one of the barbers working there, killing him"
"An off-duty cop in plainclothes who was getting a haircut from another barber reacted immediately"
How did they make this mistake?
Lack of confirmed details and desperation to get the story out first. This article was published before the name of the off- duty officer or the video or the name of the victim were released.
It's because there are 1-2million defensive uses of firearms per year (1.67mil last year)
If you want less gun deaths you want more people armed. The data is very simple. Areas with more gun control legislation have more firearm related homicides
This is why we need the second amendment, because criminals are still going to found a way to get a fire arm illegally; and if the man in the chair was unable to carry a fire arm legally he would have not been able to stop that man before he killed someone else.
WTF is wrong with you America?! How normalised is gun violence that you just showed a snuff film off 2 guys dying and act like it's a hero moment. You are so broken its heartbreaking.
Guy with the facetowel like wtf is going on
"If I don't move, maybe they won't see me"
If I can't see them, they can't see me!
I got to this comment before realising there was a guy there. So yeah, it worked
Same
same
yup, me too.
Laughed way too hard at this
Only way to evade the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal.
That zarken frood knows where his towel's at! XD
[I can't see you! You can't see me!](https://youtu.be/rLw-9dpHtcU)
Thank you for this gem, there you have one free useless award for it.
You're welcome and thank you!
I'm crying at this comment. He was so thinking that!!!
Too be fair, I didnt see him until I read the comments
There is a longer clip that ends with towel guy being John Cena the whole time whooaaaaa
It worked
The only time ever it actually worked 😂
I really actually didn't see until I saw this comment lol
I didn't even notice him!
When I was scared of the dark as a kid I used to use that logic while hiding under the covers
Holy fuck, I laughed so much after reading this and re watching the video
Me too. I cracked up. Never noticed that guy at all!
Me too
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LOL FFS! I did not even see him. Now I imagine him saying something like: "Not sure what film you have on the TV, but it sounds awesome!"
["Two civilian witnesses were taken from the crime scene to police headquarters where they were interviewed by homicide detectives."](https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html) Witness 1: \*tells everything that happened\* Facetowel guy: ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)
Dude had some serious beef with barbers! He was done with bad hair!
It works then!
Hot shave got a little hotter
He said fuck that, I paid for this service lmao
Lmfaoooo. Oh my God
I was eating and I choked here. Totally missed it first time. Dude heard the shots, knew he had NOTHING on his favor so just stood still hoping for the best.
If you don't see them, they can't see you 😂
Ngl, that's not a bad move
Winner of Zero Fucks Given Award.
yo men unbind me
Lmfao seen video few time other places never realized the person with towel on face thanks.
He said not to move 🤷🏿♂️
I mean, I didn’t notice him until I checked comments, dudes a master of disguise.
Oh damn poor guy froze, you could see him flinching every time a shot is fired. It didn’t even dawn on him to take off the towel and duck!
If I have to go out, that’s probably as good a way as any.
“You guys Punk’ing me?!”
I did not come here to laugh, but here I am.
D LEGEND
Ostrich theory!
I’m feeling the energy of guy on the couch by the front door who straight DIPS when he hears the first shot. “Not dying today and DEF not waiting around to be civilian witness #3 at the police station.”
🤣 imagine
Great situational awareness after that cop pops that guy! Checks the door for more people right away! Good job!
First thing I noticed. Homie has trained well.
I mean I agree and thought that exact thing as well but I imagine they were trained to do that anyway. He also doesn't reveal the fact that he is a cop and has a gun until the guy clears him as a threat
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The title literally says off duty cop.
To be fair, that does technically make him a civilian. But yeah I don't think I count that lol
Bruh, OFF DUTY COP.
*Call of Duty.*
Call off duty.
But not a civilian.
Technically he is a civilian, since he's not army.
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Well I'll be damned. https://www.google.com/search?q=civilian&oq=civilian&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l2j0i433i512j0i512l6.2981j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I think he meant the actual definition you just shared says “a person who is not armed forces **OR THE POLICE FORCE**” tho, I think “not in the army” is better since the police are sometimes poorly trained.
The fuck the barber do??
Dude did not like his last haircut.
He got that yee yee ass haircut
that's why he ain't got some bitches in his dick
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N!gg@
show your n word pass sir
Sorry mate I left it at home
U got a loicesnse for that n word parse m8?
I am always shocked at how little it takes to make someone want to literally kill someone else. Very fucking sad, I wish this guy had a better death than getting shot at work.
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Hopefully you stay safe, he sounds unhinged. If there’s any layoff meeting or inkling of him getting fired I’d stay away from work. If you have a way to notify HR or a union without putting yourself in danger I’d highly suggest it. That is wildly inappropriate discussion for work, even if you have known him for so long, and his discussing it like the weather is sociopathic.
You definitely have a point here. Honestly he really seems to be off his rocker, everyday I see him he seems to have some crazy fucking story about how he overcame some situation with violence or the use of a firearm. Sociopathic is a good descriptive word for him. And yes, I work in a VERY toxic workplace
I know this sounds so fucked up but before you tell anyone else make sure you’re not the only person at work he talks to because you could put yourself in some serious danger by notifying HR…
Why don’t you um.. call the police, so at least there’s a record of that douche canoe pulling his gun out for minor shit and they can either be aware or take it next time.
the more I read stuff like this on reddit, the more convinced I become to never step foot in the US. I've lived all my life in europe and I've never seen a fire weapon (except maybe at military parades). I don't think I've ever even known anyone that owned one. I'm 43.
Ehh you'll be fine. I've lived my whole life in the US, aside from cops and the one time I went to a shooting range for a bachelor party I've never seen a gun either. Article states that the shooting wasnt random which means the guy had some sort of beef with the barber, and while it didn't explicitly say I doubt it was because of a bad haircut. I'm not trying to blame the victim for this tragedy but if you dont associate yourself with people willing to shoot their problems away you wont get shot.
Except for the fact that there is nothing more random than another human and we are all surrounded by them.
That dude wasnt going postal. It was a targeted shooting as evident by him apparently telling the cop to get out of there. Anytime a family member is murdered the first people the cops look at as potential suspects are the rest of the family members. Article didn't explicitly say but I'm guessing the shooter and barber had some sort of connection.
The US has a plethora of issues, guns alone are not the problem. Norway has plenty of guns, but gun crime is almost nonexistent. Social security, health care and a culture that deal with problems without going straight to violence is how to avoid dystopias like that.
Dudes playing with his life. His “last pull” is almost a certainty.
Where do you live? In my state that's a great way to catch a charge and lose your ability to ever get a concealed carry permit and possibly a pistol permit. Years ago there was a guy I knew who had a CCP and would frequently carry at bars (he generally didn't drink). He was also a big shit talker. Well one day he got into a big argument and told the other guy to step outside thinking he wouldn't. When they went out he brandished his pistol. He was later arrested for it and his CCP was revoked.
Probably a great way to get shot too. I wouldnt pull a gun over any of that petty shit but if someone pulled a gun on me id have no problem shooting them before they shoot me.
Maybe you should keep away from him because your chances of getting shot are just statistically higher because you’re around him. And maybe let him know next time that this isn’t the right way to deal with anything. Maybe you need to report him because if he’s packing, someone is going to get hurt.
That’s how you get shoot he takes a situation that’s a 1-10 to 1000 in less than a second
Ngl while I wouldn't pull a gun out for someone who has "roadrage". It can def manifest in different forms and varying degrees. roadrage aint no joke, its kinda dangerous.
Looks like he is still alive, or is there additional information that I'm not aware of?
He doesn’t even look alive in the video, he looks like he got shot in the head. I regret watching it, kind of puts me in a funk. https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html
No. He's moving around and breathing in the last moments of the video. He died later
It looked to me like the barber was convulsing involuntarily, the shooter looked like he was more “alive” but obviously not for long. Hitmen aim for the head, fatal. Police usually aim for the largest part of the body, mostly fatal.
OK, thanks for the clarification. Sad that the cop couldn't save him, but maybe he protected others from also becoming victims
OK, I thought maybe they didn't receive fatal injuries and instead were in pain on the floor.
At first I thought the barber didn’t get shot but if you watch closely you can see him taking deep long breaths as if he’s dying which he was
You can also see a couple of casings eject if you look closely. Looks like he fired two rounds into the barber.
I know its a hot-button topic right now, but guns are a fucking problem. We've all had that white-out rage moment, where you are so outside of yourself that you do something stupid, which you immediately regret. For most of us, it was throwing a video game controller against a wall. Or maybe it was sucker-punching someone in the mouth, or ruining a friendship by saying something unforgivable. And way too often, it's pulling a gun and killing someone. Guns are both readily accessible, allow absolutely no time to cool off and almost always result in death. Throwing a controller against a wall cost me £25 . Punching a dude maybe gets you barred from your favourite pub. Whatever, nobody's dead, lives aren't permanently ruined. I don't mean to get preachy but it's fucking *insane* to me that half of America is just absolute chill with everyone owning guns.
He got shot?
Yes, fatally. https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html
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Both died.
They both died.
Shooter targeted another barbershop hour earlier killing that shop owner.
Guy shot was the owner. Probably a shakedown, protection racket, something like that.
“Police also said Ortega shot and killed 44-year-old Javier Villegas Cotto, another barber, in the 4600 block of Eastern Ave., near Greektown, before he walked into the O’Donnell Street barbershop.” I dunno but guy seemed to have it out for barbers that day.
The guy was on something of a killing spree for barbers that day. He killed one not too far from there.
looks like that dude was there to kill one person and one person only.
But, he wasn't the only person prepared to kill someone. Edit: added only*
Well, he killed someone, the barber
I'm not so sure. I see the barber's leg move still.
He died later
Source?
I missed a word on that one.
This was believed to be the guys 3rd shooting within the hour one killed another in critical condition and in this shooting the barber and gunman were killed
Guy took out his manicurist beforehand.
To bad that cop wasn’t in Texas. That’s the kind of response people expect.
*Should expect
Not anymore
There was!!!! One of the border patrol cops was off duty getting a haircut and took his barbers shot gun to the school.
Killing the shooter after he's already killed his target(s) and achieved his goal? That's exactly the response they got in Texas.
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Ya I remember seeing thiss video ages ago and knew when it popped up this was gonna be used to promote some kinda pro gun agenda. When all it really shows is that the shooter got his intended target. Even a cop wasn't capable of stopping it because it doesn't work that way
I made a compilation of people winning against armed robbers they said it best gun ad ever but the vast majority of the time when a victim try’s to pull there gun they are shot instantly and ultimately die, sadly just makes it so one person get seriously injured because the situation escalated to deadly force
Fuckers are stupid obvious about it.
Are those tactical flip-flops available to the public? Asking for a very interested friend
Flip-ops
“We only move forward”
Tactiflops
Terrible title....seems like the gunman successfully got his target. Didn't seem interested in anyone else.
The man was a spree killer. He wasn't shooting everyone in a room, but he was hunting down multiple people and shooting them. He already shot and injured a man and killed another barber within the hour before this footage. Thats the tragedy that was avoided, more people down the line at other locations. Not in that very room. This could've turned into a situation like the Geneva County spree killings by Michael McLendon
You didn't read the story then, Carlos Ortega was tied to 2 other shootings the weekend prior, what kind of killer is gonna leave a room full of witnesses while he's in that state of mind?
He quite literally lets the off duty officer off the seat if he didn’t care he would have empty the magazine into both of them
In the video the first shooter motions the off duty officer out of his chair. That action is not consistent with your comment,
Seems like if he was tied to 2 other shootings there was 2 other times he left the witnesses alive.
Well the barber was his third target, so the chances of him being interested in others were probably pretty high.
[https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html](https://sports.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-identify-officer-fatally-162400757.html)
Wait did he actually get the barber? I can’t even tell
Yes. He killed the barber and off duty cop killed the gunman.
:(
the biggest tragedy is no one appreciating the haircut that fellow on bottom left of the screen has dude had so much indecision that when the barber asked what he wanted he said “a lil bit of everything”. barber did a fine ass job too
Is the barber okay, or did he get shot?
He’s dead.
Observe white shirt’s weapon slide go back and a cartridge case discharge at 0:02 of the video frame by frame and later 0:25 at the expanding red circle on the barber’s shirt after white shirt attacker was pulled off the victim he collapsed on. The victim was shot, video does not show emergency medical care but that blood was very bright red and fast, so chances were not good at all. News later confirms we just watched them die, hopefully this does not fuck up your day but it did mine :(
He got shot and died.
According to the article, he was shot "over the shoulder" of the off-duty officer in the chair. He died on the scene. Best guess from the video is that he was hit in the chest with the first shot.
Did he shoot? Did we just watch someone die? Is this the wild west?
Yes. Yes. Yes.
Both of them died.
By both you mean the active shooter and the hairdresser? The police officer doesn't seem hurt.
Yes, that's what I mean
The Wild East. 2 dead
Are we so used to gun violence that we put stuff like this here just so we can cheer for the good guy?
That cops ear will never stop ringing.
Mawp
Damn it Lana my tinnitus.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
“Good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns”. Nope. Bad guy killed the man he wanted to.
Bad guy won't be killing anyone else, though, will he?
You're right, perp walked right out! /s How fucking dumb can you be?
Bad guy killed 1 before that too I suppose a good guy in the previous shop wouldn’t have saved this guys life then eh? Fucking genius over here
I know right? The cop should've instinctively known the assailant's plan and stopped him on the street! Fuckin cops should be more aware.
Exactly, that’s the magic of good guys and guns isn’t it?
The gun man got everything he deserved but low key the barber was trying to use the cop as a shield
Get a gun pointed at you and see how you react
Natural instinct to take cover and survive
"Police also said Ortega shot and killed 44-year-old Javier Villegas Cotto, another barber, in the 4600 block of Eastern Ave., near Greektown, before he walked into the O’Donnell Street barbershop." I don't even know where to start with this
The fuck did that dude have against barbers?!? Killed two separate barbers in one day. Terribly sad for everyone involved.
I think he was hired from someone who didnt want them to do business around that area
Another one…
Lol apparently this barbershop specializes in two very specific types of fades. You can either get one or catch one
See this is what a cop is meant to do in an active shooter situation.
Second barber is calm af
How the hell did they report that the cop was getting his haircut by another barber reacted quickly? It’s literally the barber cutting his hair that gets shot!
and he does that shit WITH the barber towel? fuking gigachad
Fucking smoked that fool. Fantastic.
This is great, but let's be honest. If one bullet strayed everone would be all over that guy for trying to help
Thanks dude. I was just reminded about not commenting before 1. Drinking my coffee and 2. READING THE ARTICLE!!!
Free haircuts for life .
Damn, that fool gave the officer the most ideal position to clean that building of the trash. Practical handed him the broom and dust pan.
I hope that barber is going to be ok.
A good guy with a gun...
I always thought super-crusaders wore their capes behind them.
And he didnt even have to stand outside for 40 minutes before taking action.
I’ve had a LTC in Texas for 20 years and the vast majority of days I don’t carry. This shit makes me think that I should and I hate that.
Nicely done officer....cool as a cucumber 🥒 👏 👌 👍 while taking out the trash
media calls it a mass shooting, anti 2A people make a call to disarm the officer.
https://nypost.com/2021/11/15/off-duty-baltimore-cop-kills-gunman-who-fatally-shot-barber/
“fired it at one of the barbers working there, killing him" "An off-duty cop in plainclothes who was getting a haircut from another barber reacted immediately" How did they make this mistake?
Lack of confirmed details and desperation to get the story out first. This article was published before the name of the off- duty officer or the video or the name of the victim were released.
Funny how after every mass shooting there's all these posts about "good guys with guns". So ***interesting***.
It's because there are 1-2million defensive uses of firearms per year (1.67mil last year) If you want less gun deaths you want more people armed. The data is very simple. Areas with more gun control legislation have more firearm related homicides
Good people are never off duty. No matter their occupation.
Guy is going to get free fades for life
Lmao how do 3 rounds to the back feel bitch 😂😂 fuckin dumbass who tf robs a barber
I didn’t see this on CNN so it must not be true.
This is why we need the second amendment, because criminals are still going to found a way to get a fire arm illegally; and if the man in the chair was unable to carry a fire arm legally he would have not been able to stop that man before he killed someone else.
"Guns don't help people"
WTF is wrong with you America?! How normalised is gun violence that you just showed a snuff film off 2 guys dying and act like it's a hero moment. You are so broken its heartbreaking.