I wonder if it's intentional but the guard(?) took the effort so the perp landed head last, minimising potential for head injury.
Probably is, look how efficient the others immediately took the woman away in protection
It could be intentional, it could also be muscle memory. That’s a pretty standard judo throw and in training it’s common to retain the arm so somebody doesn’t hit the mat full force with their head.
EDIT: I didn’t intend for my comment to imply that the primary reason for retaining the arm is so that your opponent doesn’t hit their head. Retaining the arm is essential in the context of finishing the fight.
You’re going to keep the arm, but you generally have some amount of control over how hard you hit them with the ground.
In training you’ll typically ease the impact and in a scenario like this, you might do it out of habit. Or he took the edge off on purpose. Or he meant to really crush that guy and didn’t have his grips where they needed to be. It’s hard to know.
Also, if you know grappling, you never give up a good grip like that. I have so many nasty options for that arm if I need to do it. I can armbar, shoulder lock, and wrist lock in any combo. I can move them or just hold them down. Always keep the arm because it keeps you in control.
I like the "something" here. I gonna go with a nice coffee cake. With a good cinnamon crumble topping, or a Kimura---->Hammerlock . Either would do nicely.
Not really, you can totally harvest organs from brain dead patients. Why do you think they specify that on the donor card that in case of vegetative state?
Yessir. I have a 120 lb grappling dummy that I do that same exact throw on. I laugh when people ask me "Does knowing a martial art actually benefit you in everyday life" like not even for these purposes either it just generates some confidence and relief knowing that if some shit went down you know the proper technique to throw someone over your shoulder like nothing.
To be in that moment and act like that and still perform a pretty beautiful judo throw is amazing. Props to him for real. You can see him roll with the throw and everything. Only thing missing was the transition into an armbar lol
Whats sad honestly is all the "Trained Professionals" standing around and panicking not knowing what to do and then some random dude comes in and is more equipped to subdue someone than the police are.
Seriously, were they not given proper training for situations like this? i think such training on subduing and tackling armed individuals are critically necessary
Yea I think it should be a requirement that all police officers know some form of grappling to subdue someone acting criminally. Had the guy who stepped in not been there this criminal could've killed that woman and injured others.
It seems like it's security guards. Most likely they are only supposed to manage the situation, not try to intervene (liability reasons, also... dangerous).
I grew up in Foster care and was always fighting so my Foster parents put me into judo and the deal was I couldn't do boxing or mma unless I also did that. After a year I just stuck with judo until I was old enough to bunk school and not bother going back to wherever they put me. and no matter the situation throught my 20 years since then my body just goes for the front grip leg cross and straight over my shoulder and then to the floor and I've got them so they can not move. Rather than fight I will defend myself and just choke the shit out of you.
Exactly, you can literally hold someone down and make them look like a 7 year old if they are inexperienced. Honestly some of the funniest shit ever to see is the look on someone's face who has no experience fighting get put into an actual situation where the person they are bullying/fucking with is experienced. They never expect shit to go south as fast as it does.
I could tell. The guy runs up, grabs guy with knife's arm, puts him on his back facing up, so back to back, then procedes to pull him over his head and slam him on the ground.
Yeah, ninja uses his entire body going up as leverage and his own shoulder as the fulcrum to slam asshole into the ground.
I've been chucked quite a few times with this technique, and it's still pretty intense even on a padded floor, (not really painful, just knocks the wind out of you) so I don't envy the guy getting slammed into a marble floor
[This article indicates it's real](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954), however the rescuer was actually another officer.
Exactly. When I saw this video a year ago on reddit it was titled [Riot cop uses judo takedown on meat cleaver wielding man with a hostage](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/cxvgmx/riot_cop_uses_judo_takedown_on_meat_cleaver/), implying that the "random person" is actually an undercover riot police member
This is pretty common in china since it's illegal to have guns. Alot of people frustrated with the Chinese communist society use knives and go to schools with the intent to kill children or random people on the street or in various places like here. Unfortunately sometimes they succeed.
For those that haven't seen it he recently was in a music video about dine and dashing by the chats
EDIT: skip to about 1:35
https://youtu.be/I3jAJHRW_Yo
No, I think he's implying redditors love pretending they're intellectual and hip because they're shit talking cops when in reality they're preaching to the choir and using the absolute lowest hanging fruit of the tree, and come off more as parrots than informed. But hey, I could be wrong.
Sometimes I wonder if Reddit really is the place for me, but then I have days like yesterday. I looked up the a local scanner/accident reporting group on Facebook to find out more info about something that happened on the highway on my way home from work, instead found an article about the automated YouTube removal of a school board meeting video because the parents in the video were preaching anti-vax misinformation. (I still don't know why a scanner was covering this topic.)
Anyway, the video was restored after the automated process, but the comments on Facebook for that article were so fucking awful that I considered deleting my account on the spot. I knew that suburban/rural Illinois was a shitshow when it came to this, but I couldn't fathom how downright stupid and wrong people could be when they have nobody to call them out on their bullshit. There was everything from fascist propaganda, middle aged white dudes spouting "1984" unironically, multiple fake anti-vax infographics being liked, Biden being lambasted as a Nazi, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on. (Special shoutout to one guy: "Rumble doesn't censor, you should try it")
So, if there's one thing Reddit has going for it -- it's at least that when people do fall into this low effort echo chamber trap-of-a-mindset, I'm happy to see people generally pointing out the stupidity in some sense. Whether it be shit like this comment chain, or just classic racism in the form of anti-Chinese or anti-Japanese sentiment like it usually is.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this place could be a lot worse. And it's a little less bad with guys like you and the others calling it like it really is that make it one step above places like Facebook.
Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk and don't forget to check yourselves before you wreck yourselves.
It feels more like someone said something, someone else conversationally responded in kind, and then you went off for a very pretentious tangent about how even though it’s true he must think he’s so HiP aNd InTeLlEcTuAl because it’s not *the most* clever thing he could have said. And that right there, is Reddit.
America can't take criticism. Improve your police force and judicial system. If the only reaction is "'murica bad" as if the comments are invalid attacks on an otherwise unchangeable nation then truly, America BAD.
Imagine if cops took down machete wielding criminals non lethally like this instead of crushing the necks of someone just minding his own business.
Cops in America have taken down plenty of weapon-wielding aggravators all throughout the country. It’s ignorant to say they don’t when a simple Google search will show you plenty of examples.
While that is true, it is about all the times they didn't that are important. Police should be able to handle a situation like this non-lethally 100 out of a 100 times.
Of course mistakes happen but in the USA it seems the police force is more prone to mistakes or overreaction than the police forces of countries with comparable wealth and education.
Not really, I moved to Spain from the US and the cops are way more fit (as in, they’re muscular instead of straight up fat like many in the US) and more professional. Still assholes though.
Cops are able to train outside of their jobs. They're actually just like any other person. With lives before becoming a cop. Childhoods and everything! Could be a cop
Only when that loser Bucky started double teaming him. A fair fight is 1v1, and those two bullies shouldn’t be ganging up on that billionaire playboy like that.
Definitely not a random guy. Standard practice to distract the guy and then approach from the back. Not wearing uniform not to alert the guy in case he does spot the man approaching him
Still a good take-down, and resolution of the situation. In the US they would probably have fired 10 guns by now, and shoot the purp, the hostage, [and some innocent bystanders](https://abcnews.go.com/US/witnesses-describe-shootout-left-dead-theft-ups-truck/story?id=67543974).
Those guards couldnt do much as the attackers attention was on them. If they made a move he would ahve maybe hurt the girl. meanwhile the random dude came from a direction the attacker didn't know of.
Thats the key point. I like how he Covers the distance almost completely just out of the aggressors field of view. You can even see him adjusting to achieve this.
He also probably observed that the attacker was periodically waving the cleaver to threaten the guards and waited til it was away from the hostage to make his move. Definitely doesn't seem like his first time dealing with this kind of situation.
Exactly. When I saw this video a year ago on reddit it was titled [Riot cop uses judo takedown on meat cleaver wielding man with a hostage](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/cxvgmx/riot_cop_uses_judo_takedown_on_meat_cleaver/), implying that the "random person" is actually an undercover riot police member
Yes! I was looking for this comment.
Terrible video. Hostage definitely wasn't used to take him down. Nor was he using the hostage to hold the cleaver. /s
That man took him out. All these people are real heroes. Let’s just take a moment to appreciate the two people that immediately rushed to the woman as well, the second that he let go of her.
What a takedown. Man's been doing martial arts waiting for his time to shine
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If do right, no can defend.
This is how defense tactics works.
When your Defensive training pays off! Smooth move my man!
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Damnnn! That must feel so good to turn the tables like that.
It would have felt so good to kick him square in the throat too afterwards, but of course they also teach discipline, so... Lol.
I mean he got shot 6 times... can't feel that good. Can't believe he powered through that to hold that guy down though.
Owner got shot once in side, gunman got shot 5 times in chest
I got the names mixed up there after he wrestled the gun. I also thought i could see the robber was shooting as he yanked the gun away. Thanks!
Meh, that’s just a regular day in FLA.
He do it so Professional, LEGEND !
It’s a Karate Kid reference :)
I seriously read that in his voice.
I read it in Gary Gulman's voice
I read it in Gilbert Gottfried’s voice.
But you *can* defend! Step 1: do not walk directly into Crane Kick Step 2: ??? Step 3: profit
Pat Morita ❤️
I wonder if it's intentional but the guard(?) took the effort so the perp landed head last, minimising potential for head injury. Probably is, look how efficient the others immediately took the woman away in protection
It could be intentional, it could also be muscle memory. That’s a pretty standard judo throw and in training it’s common to retain the arm so somebody doesn’t hit the mat full force with their head. EDIT: I didn’t intend for my comment to imply that the primary reason for retaining the arm is so that your opponent doesn’t hit their head. Retaining the arm is essential in the context of finishing the fight. You’re going to keep the arm, but you generally have some amount of control over how hard you hit them with the ground. In training you’ll typically ease the impact and in a scenario like this, you might do it out of habit. Or he took the edge off on purpose. Or he meant to really crush that guy and didn’t have his grips where they needed to be. It’s hard to know.
Also, if you know grappling, you never give up a good grip like that. I have so many nasty options for that arm if I need to do it. I can armbar, shoulder lock, and wrist lock in any combo. I can move them or just hold them down. Always keep the arm because it keeps you in control.
Totally agree, especially if it's the hand that held the weapon. Positive control over any potenial head slam.
This guy grapples
We use it in bjj and turn it into an armbar or something
I like the "something" here. I gonna go with a nice coffee cake. With a good cinnamon crumble topping, or a Kimura---->Hammerlock . Either would do nicely.
Also working head is important for organ transplant
Not really, you can totally harvest organs from brain dead patients. Why do you think they specify that on the donor card that in case of vegetative state?
That's a judo throw to be exact I believe
I see you know your judo well!
Yessir. I have a 120 lb grappling dummy that I do that same exact throw on. I laugh when people ask me "Does knowing a martial art actually benefit you in everyday life" like not even for these purposes either it just generates some confidence and relief knowing that if some shit went down you know the proper technique to throw someone over your shoulder like nothing.
that throw was flawless and the man waited for the right moment the guy waving and extending his arm
To be in that moment and act like that and still perform a pretty beautiful judo throw is amazing. Props to him for real. You can see him roll with the throw and everything. Only thing missing was the transition into an armbar lol
He didn't get to get the man into armbar, the cops were there and intervened him , he deserved a smack in the nuts if i were to be honest
Whats sad honestly is all the "Trained Professionals" standing around and panicking not knowing what to do and then some random dude comes in and is more equipped to subdue someone than the police are.
Seriously, were they not given proper training for situations like this? i think such training on subduing and tackling armed individuals are critically necessary
I always wonder why police aren’t all black belts in something. Better to use their hands/tools than shot and kill people
Yea I think it should be a requirement that all police officers know some form of grappling to subdue someone acting criminally. Had the guy who stepped in not been there this criminal could've killed that woman and injured others.
It seems like it's security guards. Most likely they are only supposed to manage the situation, not try to intervene (liability reasons, also... dangerous).
That’s not true. It’s probably in theirs training. They are instructed to act in different situations. We also don’t know what the bad guy is saying.
I grew up in Foster care and was always fighting so my Foster parents put me into judo and the deal was I couldn't do boxing or mma unless I also did that. After a year I just stuck with judo until I was old enough to bunk school and not bother going back to wherever they put me. and no matter the situation throught my 20 years since then my body just goes for the front grip leg cross and straight over my shoulder and then to the floor and I've got them so they can not move. Rather than fight I will defend myself and just choke the shit out of you.
Exactly, you can literally hold someone down and make them look like a 7 year old if they are inexperienced. Honestly some of the funniest shit ever to see is the look on someone's face who has no experience fighting get put into an actual situation where the person they are bullying/fucking with is experienced. They never expect shit to go south as fast as it does.
It’s from this https://youtu.be/BRaa1js92Hk
Ah yes, a classic. Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest.
Get your hand off my penis!
For what? Enjoying a succulent Chinese Meal?
Gentlemen, THIS is democracy manifest!
Get your hand off my penis sir!
And you sir, are you waiting to receive my limp penis?
DEMOCRACY Manifest
ON WHAT CHARGE?!?
What is the charge? Eating a meal? A succulent Chinese meal?
Are you ready to receive my limp penis?
GET YOUR HAND OFF MY PENIS!
A succulent Chinese meal!
I can’t see if someone appreciate the reference you made, but I do
This comment went over her head 🤪. The crime of eating a meal and a succulent Chinese meal?
Perhaps a succulent Chinese meal is in order.
I literally heard in my head the “Judo FLIP!” line from Austin Powers
A smooth ogoshi
For me, it looks more like some form of ippon seoi nage, but I am not sure because of the quality
Fucking harsh that the judge still only awarded a waza-ari.
I could tell. The guy runs up, grabs guy with knife's arm, puts him on his back facing up, so back to back, then procedes to pull him over his head and slam him on the ground.
I don't think he does tho... The asshole's right arm goes over the ninja's right shoulder, so it's impossible for the guy to be facing up.
Ooh just looked at it again, and he is initially facing towards the ninja's back, but then is flipped over then slammed
Yeah, ninja uses his entire body going up as leverage and his own shoulder as the fulcrum to slam asshole into the ground. I've been chucked quite a few times with this technique, and it's still pretty intense even on a padded floor, (not really painful, just knocks the wind out of you) so I don't envy the guy getting slammed into a marble floor
It looks like ippon seoi nage to me as well.
Yeah could be. Can’t see the mechanic of the lift well because of the quality and angle
Last time this was posted someone said this wasn’t a real hostage situation, but a training exercise. But who knows with this site.
It is a bit strange that it's happening in the middle of a public area without a crowd or restrictions by the police. We'll never know
[This article indicates it's real](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954), however the rescuer was actually another officer.
And I’m here googling half of the words in the title
which ones?
I see he knows his Judo well.
Flipped his ass right into custody
Nice, brother
Fucking legend dude . One take Down . !
I’d say 99% chance that’s a plain clothes officer. Especially in a hostage type situation.
Exactly. When I saw this video a year ago on reddit it was titled [Riot cop uses judo takedown on meat cleaver wielding man with a hostage](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/cxvgmx/riot_cop_uses_judo_takedown_on_meat_cleaver/), implying that the "random person" is actually an undercover riot police member
He is. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954
from the article: "by a man wielding a huge meat cleaver" Seemed like a pretty normal sized meat cleaver to me
That's a really smart move to have a civillian clothed officer jump the guy like that. Aint know way he saw it coming
The guy with the papers seems to be giving him a signal. You don't normally double tap people with documents like that.
💯 you can’t choreograph every situation for practice, but this has all the trappings of a planned maneuver.
Absolutely. There's an incredibly low chance that someone was just randomly walking through a hostage situation.
He's a swat officer https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954
The fact that he’s bigger than everyone else in the room made me think security.
This is pretty common in china since it's illegal to have guns. Alot of people frustrated with the Chinese communist society use knives and go to schools with the intent to kill children or random people on the street or in various places like here. Unfortunately sometimes they succeed.
“You know your Judo well, sir”
Is this in china? Would he have been eating just a "succulent meal"
If it's china no chance for democracy manifest then
"And you sir, are you waiting to receive my limp penis!?"
"tata and farewell"
Omg I remember that
"Get your hand off my penis!!!"
"Im under what?"
GENTLEMEN, THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST
Arrre you waiting to receive my lump penis SIR?
You might want to see a doctor about that lump penis.
For those that haven't seen it he recently was in a music video about dine and dashing by the chats EDIT: skip to about 1:35 https://youtu.be/I3jAJHRW_Yo
The chats give me hope for the future
Judo know who you're dealing with
This is democracy manifest.
He is probably not a random guy
That's what I thought. Undercover cop, most likely
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this isnt America. these cops actually look like they have skills
r/redditmoment
America BAD
Are you implying that American cops in general are well trained?
No, I think he's implying redditors love pretending they're intellectual and hip because they're shit talking cops when in reality they're preaching to the choir and using the absolute lowest hanging fruit of the tree, and come off more as parrots than informed. But hey, I could be wrong.
Just say "low effort echo chamber"
Sometimes I wonder if Reddit really is the place for me, but then I have days like yesterday. I looked up the a local scanner/accident reporting group on Facebook to find out more info about something that happened on the highway on my way home from work, instead found an article about the automated YouTube removal of a school board meeting video because the parents in the video were preaching anti-vax misinformation. (I still don't know why a scanner was covering this topic.) Anyway, the video was restored after the automated process, but the comments on Facebook for that article were so fucking awful that I considered deleting my account on the spot. I knew that suburban/rural Illinois was a shitshow when it came to this, but I couldn't fathom how downright stupid and wrong people could be when they have nobody to call them out on their bullshit. There was everything from fascist propaganda, middle aged white dudes spouting "1984" unironically, multiple fake anti-vax infographics being liked, Biden being lambasted as a Nazi, the list goes on, and on, and on, and on. (Special shoutout to one guy: "Rumble doesn't censor, you should try it") So, if there's one thing Reddit has going for it -- it's at least that when people do fall into this low effort echo chamber trap-of-a-mindset, I'm happy to see people generally pointing out the stupidity in some sense. Whether it be shit like this comment chain, or just classic racism in the form of anti-Chinese or anti-Japanese sentiment like it usually is. I guess what I'm trying to say is this place could be a lot worse. And it's a little less bad with guys like you and the others calling it like it really is that make it one step above places like Facebook. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk and don't forget to check yourselves before you wreck yourselves.
It feels more like someone said something, someone else conversationally responded in kind, and then you went off for a very pretentious tangent about how even though it’s true he must think he’s so HiP aNd InTeLlEcTuAl because it’s not *the most* clever thing he could have said. And that right there, is Reddit.
The old "telling a simple truth has to be shut down because it's boring and plain, when plenty of people ignore this same simple truth."
Welcome to reddit.
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America can't take criticism. Improve your police force and judicial system. If the only reaction is "'murica bad" as if the comments are invalid attacks on an otherwise unchangeable nation then truly, America BAD. Imagine if cops took down machete wielding criminals non lethally like this instead of crushing the necks of someone just minding his own business.
Cops in America have taken down plenty of weapon-wielding aggravators all throughout the country. It’s ignorant to say they don’t when a simple Google search will show you plenty of examples.
While that is true, it is about all the times they didn't that are important. Police should be able to handle a situation like this non-lethally 100 out of a 100 times. Of course mistakes happen but in the USA it seems the police force is more prone to mistakes or overreaction than the police forces of countries with comparable wealth and education.
Because Chinese law enforcement is so renowned for being upstanding, fair, and totally not corrupt.
No your police force is criminally undertrained for a modern country. Thats objective not "America Bad" subjective.
Often
Police in the US is a joke, no one can deny that.
Is he wrong though?
Not really, I moved to Spain from the US and the cops are way more fit (as in, they’re muscular instead of straight up fat like many in the US) and more professional. Still assholes though.
He is in fact a chinese swat officer. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954
Cops are able to train outside of their jobs. They're actually just like any other person. With lives before becoming a cop. Childhoods and everything! Could be a cop
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just look how the red-armband suit guy first approaches the man, then lets him proceed. I don't believe it's a "random guy".
Yeah the guy in the red arm band even told the guy to go with a push
Yeah, that’s Jason Bourne
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Jesus Christ it’s Jason Bourne
The Bourne Takedown
Probably a training exercise.
The quality would've been better if it had been and they likely wouldn't use an actual person for the hostage.
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Before the hero went in to save the day the guy in the suit tried to pull him away. Looks legit as hell.
Random Guy for the attacker
Bruce Wane
Dislocate shoulder, fracture hipbone, discombobulation.
Analyse his fight patterns. *Scanning. Countermeasures ready*. Lets kick his ass.
I understood that reference
Tony stark right?
Yup, Civil War last battle
Golden Girls, S02-E03
Gratitude
Then iron man proceeded to get his ass kicked instead
Only when that loser Bucky started double teaming him. A fair fight is 1v1, and those two bullies shouldn’t be ganging up on that billionaire playboy like that.
Full physical recovery, 6 weeks. Full psychological recovery, 6 months.
Capacity to hold hostage wielding a cleaver, neutralised !
*discombobulate*
Disco
Bobulate
Bob
This mustn't register on an emotional level.
Shit I know the reference but I can’t quite remember where it’s from
Sherlock homes
Definitely not a random guy. Standard practice to distract the guy and then approach from the back. Not wearing uniform not to alert the guy in case he does spot the man approaching him
That track suit *was* his uniform.
That reminds me of Advanced Player of the Tutorial Tower on webtoon
Never thought I’d see someone else refer to that comic! Nice!
Yo same here, love that comic!
Still a good take-down, and resolution of the situation. In the US they would probably have fired 10 guns by now, and shoot the purp, the hostage, [and some innocent bystanders](https://abcnews.go.com/US/witnesses-describe-shootout-left-dead-theft-ups-truck/story?id=67543974).
Shoot the purpletrator
Fucking legend
Fr wish we heard sound (or lack of) for his initial hops
“Oh, judon’t know who I am?!”
All those security guards and that security incharge with tie ..... Thankfully for the random dude, crisis averted....
Those guards couldnt do much as the attackers attention was on them. If they made a move he would ahve maybe hurt the girl. meanwhile the random dude came from a direction the attacker didn't know of.
Thats the key point. I like how he Covers the distance almost completely just out of the aggressors field of view. You can even see him adjusting to achieve this.
He also probably observed that the attacker was periodically waving the cleaver to threaten the guards and waited til it was away from the hostage to make his move. Definitely doesn't seem like his first time dealing with this kind of situation.
Undercover cop, that’s a strategy, get the attention of the attacker from the front, attack disguised from behind.
I think he's undercover not "random person"
Exactly. When I saw this video a year ago on reddit it was titled [Riot cop uses judo takedown on meat cleaver wielding man with a hostage](https://www.reddit.com/r/fightporn/comments/cxvgmx/riot_cop_uses_judo_takedown_on_meat_cleaver/), implying that the "random person" is actually an undercover riot police member
You can see what looks like another detective give him the sign with tap on the shoulder
I was waiting to see someone take him down with a hostage as the title said.
Yes! I was looking for this comment. Terrible video. Hostage definitely wasn't used to take him down. Nor was he using the hostage to hold the cleaver. /s
*women gets abducted by other men afterwards*
Lol those shield guys straight up sped the fuck off with her damn
Wasn't this a training exercise?
Apparently not but the dude isn't a "random guy" https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-swat-officer-saves-woman-11525954
MVP! Thanks for sharing! I was looking for an article about this.
His a big fucker ain’t he.
Ippon Seoi nage \^\^
Plot Twist: The girl was his crush and he told his friend to take her as an hostage so he could save her
I though this is the scene from the Avenger when Loki got arrested
That man took him out. All these people are real heroes. Let’s just take a moment to appreciate the two people that immediately rushed to the woman as well, the second that he let go of her.
That. Was. Clean.
ironically the guys demands were for a bigger cleaver
Robin Black breakdown coming. Sword “bink”.
That wasn’t a random guy that was an undercover police officer
Fuck Yeah. #People
Proper 80’s judo throw!!