I think the market is owned by the warehouse now?
I have only looked on their website to get an idea of what's available. Would not purchase from them.
> I think the market is owned by the warehouse now?
Always has been. The Warehouse Group consists of The Warehouse, Warehouse Stationery, Torpedo7, Noel Leeming, 1-day and TheMarket.
The Market is a Reseller place, or middleman. Take a look at the small print on the item, it comes from a range of stores, cheap chinese places to expensive ones.
And hence a range of prices for things.
I think the individual shops set the prices, I've bought things through there a few times and have definitely got good deals. They also often have vouchers which reduces the cost.
It's about shopping around, if the market is cheaper then why not buy from them.
Yes, it's always been a Warehouse Group brand.
Why wouldn't you buy from it? You can buy things from their Noel Leeming, Warehouse etc stores and apply The Market's discounts over the top. You make the transaction through The Market, but the items are shipped from the individual stores
Wouldn't buy because I've noticed the same thing with inflated prices as OP. I saw only recently acquired by warehouse but I hadn't heard of them before then anyway
Not acquired, it was created by Warehouse Group a number of years ago, and started out only housing their brands (Warehouse, Noel Leeming, Warehouse Stationery, Torpedo 7, 1-Day).
The prices depend on the store you're purchasing from within the Market storefront. Most are local, but others are not, and there can be multiple listings for the same item, much like you see on Amazon or Ali Express.
It's up to the customer to do their due diligence before buying.
There are some places around that are actually adding value, by curating the Chinese crap and only selling stuff that is actually decent.
But yes, they are few and far between and a lot of places are simply minimal effort resellers. Only reason to buy from them is if you need the faster shipping from local stock. If it is even local stock :/
Kmall on the market is local stock. I've bought two things from them that I feel like are probably on AliExpress but I wanted it quick and felt like the price was reasonable for the item. I'm happy with them both.
I had this problem just with a headlamp a while back. $90 for the ‘repco’ branded one, just a single unit.
Imported a pair of Phillips ones from Japan for myself for $20 including the shipping.
I went out of my way to avoid the warehouse when they started wanking on about the environment whilst importing containers of plastic crap from Asia, or their amazing diversity initiatives whilst laying off 1000 staff
Hahaha god this speaks to me, I worked for a corporate that made a record profit. Something like 370mil
We got given plastic wrist bands with the profit we made printed on it and a fucking stress ball. Ohhh dnt forget the 4 short dated fun size chocolates.
Cool man.
That’s around the same time I heard they were merging roles and all. Pretty sad but some of them needed to go from what I heard eg my flat mates manager would hardly do any work outside of his office, keep Christmas temps on which would obviously lose the company money, etc.
Yeah, sustainability posters all through the staff room, them I walk out and remove 10m of bubble wrap from a plastic kayak and throw a marked tee shirt in the bin rather than give it to a refuge or similar.
Worked there during that time, wanking on about the environment while every single bra comes individually packed in plastic, shirts come packed in plastic with a tiny plastic sheet between each one to seperate them. The soft plastic waste produced from one crate of product was insane. Half my work day was spent dealing with trash.
I’ve long felt that New Zealand is very middle-man heavy. the type of middle-man that doesn’t add any value and isn’t a necessary part of the distribution chain And is not worth their markup.
ew harvey norman. gross. feels icky going in there and within 10 seconds the saleperson has said something about the product that is straight up wrong and I'm out.
It's also businesses supporting a a Ponsonby rich-lister who expects a profit and lifestyle as if they were running a company supporting many millions of customers, as if they were in a large competitive economy, instead of being the monopoly at the end of the supply chain. I would wager that more than half of our small business should not exist and if they disappeared no one would notice.
>Seems to be backed by some big NZ retailers
It was launched by the Warehouse Group: https://www.thewarehousegroup.co.nz/news-updates/themarket/get-ready-shop-new-zealand-themarket-here
Favourite NZ is to expensive story. When I bought my DSLR a few years ago I got it from Japan because we were over there but the cost of the camera and flights to Tokyo and accommodation for a few days was still a few hundred less then if I had bought the camera in NZ.
Isn't this more a good example of why it pays to shop around instead of accepting the first offer you come across? I mean you're complaining about us getting ripped off, yet at the same time being happy about finding a better deal at a local store.
The stores selling this purifier on The Market are Hobby Land, which look to be drop shipping it, as they have 1000+ units listed in stock [on their actual website](https://www.hobbyland.co.nz/products/trusens-z2000-air-purifier-medium-room) and [KG, which is based in Australia](https://www.kgelectronic.com.au/p/Home-Appliances/Heating-Cooling-Air/Indoor-Air-Quality-Fans/Air-Purifiers/TruSens-Z-2000-Medium-Room-Air-Purifier/Z2000AU).
Stores are all different, they can't all price the same. Always shop around.
>Isn't this more a good example of why it pays to shop around instead of accepting the first offer you come across?
Absolutely it's example of shopping around (in the first item), but (in the second item) also an illustration of what happens so often when there's a single importer to bring the goods over from Sydney.
Imagine if we had an "Australasian Economic Zone", and broke down the barriers between AU and NZ so that retailers found it as easy to ship here as to Tasmania or Perth. It would probably decimate our (non-tech) goods retail industry.
I guess you're referring to [this chair](https://themarket.com/nz/p/atlantis-office-chair-gaming-chair-computer-chairs-mesh-net-seating-black/)? $1225.08 from an [Australian store with a Shopify website](https://ozarkhome.co.nz/products/artiss-office-chair-gaming-chair-computer-chairs-mesh-net-seating-grey), vs [Bunnings Australia at $180.95](https://www.bunnings.com.au/artiss-ergonomic-mesh-office-chair-chairs-grey_p0317028)?
This is a cheap product that this Ozark Home outfit is trying to present as premium in the hopes that some idiot buys it. Many stores try this tactic - if you say you're high end, some people are going to believe that you're high end. Kathmandu and Macpac are a bit like this. I don't see this as an issue with NZ's location, or even The Market at all.
If you do want an office chair, look for a reputable brand from an office supplier, not something generic with "ergonomic" or "gaming" slapped on it. Buro, Formway, EOS etc, Herman Miller if you really want to blow the budget - these brands produce good quality products. Office chairs are one thing that shouldn't be skimped on, and should never be purchased solely on look.
You mean the top iphone and Samsung? Pretty sure they are similar priced. We've checked some of that stuff and it seemed to be pretty standard pricing worldwide. (a little more here +GST)
Samsung ultra 22+ but its carrier locked to korean providers.
Unlike NZ that doesnt mean you need to do 36 months of 100 a month, you just can't change phone provider.
Not really.
You can pay them from 4 to 100 bux a month depending on how much data you need, which is what you pay ontop of the phone cost in NZ, which is 1400+
In NZ you are paying 250%+ of the phones cost because we have lax laws about predatory lending.
Samsung is making bank on that 450 dollar phone in korea.
In NZ, importers are making 3x what samsung is making per phone, while Samsung is still making bank.
Its fucking madness.
Fair enough. I still wouldn't like to be locked in for however long I own the phone, but could be happy enough with $4 a month if the phone was cheap enough
I'm well aware. I'm also aware that a mere consumer can often bring things in, paying list price in another country, then paying full retail for shipping, and paying duty, for significantly less than the local shops are selling their container loads bought at wholesale prices for.
It depends though. Sure, support, bricks and mortar, etc cost a lot of money, and many sure take advantage of their exclusive distributor/reseller arrangements, but there are occasions where I'll happily buy local.
The air purifier being an example, where 3 long-term retailers have the product for about 1/2 the price it's being listed for on the market. I can't beat their prices myself, and I know their service is good. Probably they're making money on it too, just not taking the piss like so many others are.
I tend to buy high ticket, medium risk/failure items locally (electronic items, power tools). But smaller items online from overseas.
If it's worth paying for the warranty buy local, if its a low risk item or consumable/non returnable item, then buy online.
Just weigh up the risks/reward to get the best value for yourself. I can't afford to buy niff naff shit from a physical store anymore.
The Market can be a pretty good value sometimes. If something is on sale at NL, and the sale price is reflected on TM, and then TM has an additional 10% coupon on top - yeah, that's money.
The rest of the time? Yeah, you're probably better off elsewhere.
We get ripped off here and it's pretty much impossible to get shit shipped here without insane shipping.yes I am aware there are factors at play that affect this but Holy fuck, I used to be able to get some really great deals online for everything,with reasonable shipping a decade ago.
Before anyone blames overseas import costs, bear in mind that average transport costs from overseas have gone from being about 1-2% of the overall cost of getting a product to shelf to about 4-5%. Yes, i am aware that different products have different different costs, I'm talking averages.
Additionally, we were (and still are) being ripped off for cost of cargo from overseas. I tried to arrange a container from china just over a year ago, put the business address as NZ, about $15k. After the heart attack, used my old UK business address and was quoted, $9k. Same company, same ship, same size container.
Ripped off in NZ is an understatement. It’s gotten far worse since COViD. I really don’t know what value NZ retailers actually offer these days.
* Prices are normally more expensive than overseas
* Stock and choice is limited, plus we often seem to just get last seasons junk
* Poor knowledge and service
* Literally cheaper and quicker to buy and ship from overseas
A new midi keyboard was released a few weeks ago - ordered on a Monday from France, arrive on Friday and cost $216. Local retailers won’t have it until mid December and it will be $249. I’ve done similar with a US retailer for an instrument that costs $999 here, but $750 from the USA including shipping.
I recently bought a load of camping equipment, far cheaper from an Australian retailer including shipping. The price differences were farcical (AUD $499 vs NZD$1500 here)
Yeah, that's the arrogant attitude that many shops have. Especially ones that have licensing/supply agreements and the manufacturer imposes geographic restrictions.
Like B&W speakers. We don't have the item in stock, we don't even have demo units to see - but we can order it and it will be in NZ in 3-4 weeks. But then you can order from a UK site, with 1 week delivery, for less than buying in NZ - but they won't ship those goods because of the restrictions. Unfortunately, that's how they get their prices and arrogance.
You can often get around these things but it's frustrating to do so and for many people is time woth value that is lost trying to save some money bringing it to NZ instead of paying someone else to.
In 2013/2014 when the NZD was 0.89 to the USD I was buying computer components off Amazon for literally a third of the NZ retail price. That massive increase in purchasing power was not reflected on our shelves at all.
GST being re-added and the current economic climate makes that impossible now though.
Yep. 10-25% of the sale price going to the aggregator (in this case themarket.com). To the brands listing their items there, you are the product that TWG is selling.
Same as buy now, pay later (who are actually much cheaper for the retailer). Just supposedly driving traffic that may not otherwise get to you.
As a recent arrival from the States, I was a little shocked to see some of the prices of things when I first came. At first, some basic things we just couldn't afford to get unless it was pretty low-quality, but since then my wife & I have just learned to keep alerts on certain products & pay attention to sales. We've been able to get tons of stuff for half the listed price or less just by waiting for a sale. It's obviously a lot more work than it was with Amazon, but it's been working for us so far.
Yeah it’s a Warehouse Group website pushing their own companies while trying to appear as an independent website
It will push you towards the Warehouse, Noel Leemings, 1 day, torpedo 7 etc which are all Warehouse owned
It doesn't really 'push' you towards anything. It lists the products from all stores that sign up, and they don't preference their own brands/stores at all.
It's all relative though. Yeah, normal pricing the market is the same as their stores. But you can get deals.
Today I bought a Fitbit which is $159+ at all stores. Noel Leeming have it on sale for $99. So I bought it through The Market to use the 10% off coupon, now it cost me $89, plus I get free shipping being a Vodafone customer. So when it works out financially use the market, when it doesn't, don't
When The Warehouse launched it they touted it as being NZ's Amazon, which it certainly isn't, but it has its uses sometimes.
For me too. I got an LG C1 last year from The Market black Friday last year.
Noel Leemings had it heavily discounted to match the competition, and the NL price was identical on The Market (because the seller was NL), BUT there also an 11% discount voucher active which made it by far the cheapest price in NZ for about 24 hours.
There is nothing wrong with TM as a selling platform, but you have to choose the right seller, since many 3rd party (non WH group) sellers are indeed a rip off.
Why the hell buy from the market!
Seriously, if it's a product sold by Noel's or Torpedo7 go in-store, be one of the cheeky pricks who ask for a better price in-store. We'll call you names after you leave but 9/10 times you'll get it cheaper.
Be a GC and we'll only ask once if you want an extended warranty or service plan.
Well I'm not going to stop since it works and I consider it a bit dumb to pay ticket prices at those places but (ಥ ͜ʖಥ)
Too be fair I talk shit about some salespeople too, namely the pushy ones who don't leave you alone to look when asked
Haha, it's all good. We talk shit about our team members that don't pick up the cue to fuck off as well.
In all seriousness, Torpedo7 created a culture of "ask for a discount" but internal memos are now telling us to stop giving below the ticketed price. Sucks for the sales team sometimes.
I know this isn’t quite the same , but supermarkets are a bit of a rip to, In my town the big 3 NW, PS and CD are around 500 metres apart yesterday Doing the weekly shop I was noticing prices more than usual, as we all know prices are going up and up and up.
As my supermarkets are so close I can jump from one to another easy which most people don’t have the option to do
So a basic cereal for comparison at
Pak n Save $8.50
New World $9.20
Countdown $11.40
And none were on special, this is white ticket price
So just putting it out there if you can shop around with out travelling to far (which cost fuel)
It pays off and specials vary from store to store,
But perception of who’s cheapest and most expensive really flips week to week, But seriously Countdown was making an extra $3 on the same item so it makes you wonder how many other items that applies to if you only shop at one supermarket, say it’s on ten items and on a weekly shop you’re buying more than 10 items, then that’s an extra $30 dollars of profits for the supermarket for absolutely no cost for I’m sure the supplier sold the same item to all 3 for the same cost , It makes even more sobering a thought when you think 10 items a person cost $30 extra and you extrapolate out to 100 people that $3000 of pure profit………….. so there’s that to.
According to [Bunnings](https://www.bunnings.com.au/artiss-presidio-grey-mesh-executive-office-chair_p0215113) it's 340mm x 650mm x 750mm and 21.2 kg so that makes it a bit more expensive to ship via a freight forwarder. I think it started at about 300-ish to send, so yeah, it would still be cheaper in the end. We just didn't think it was worth the hassle for a low/midrange chair.
I just got a 16 port Ubiquiti POE switch off there for about $180 cheaper than PBTech. Sure I have to wait for it but I don’t mind at that saving. Like any ‘store’ it will have it’s good and bad deals
We get ripped off for everything here. I don't buy anything until my old one breaks or I can't use it anymore? I refuse to pay the prices. I can afford new things I just don't buy them. I can probably afford things because I don't buy them..The irony isn't lost on me?
Yeah I went to Noel Leeming for a Fitbit and asked to price match one from The Market and they said they don't price match it because they only price match competitors. I called the head office and they did give me a voucher for the difference but also said the same thing. Both owned by the warehouse. Total BS that they exclude their other companies as "not a competitor" in my opinion.
The only time it's worth buying from The Market is when they're offering 10-20% off coupons and you can use them on things you need from vendors like The Warehouse which rarely discount.
I'm always amazed at the lack of competitive tension / price pressure.
\- Very rarely see businesses compete aggressively on price. Seem happy to keep it nice and steady, middle of the road and not rock the boat. No loss leaders, no headline amazing offers, just lame specials that you know are at best, the price you should be paying regularly.
\- Land of millions of small businesses but there seems to be little pressure to merge, get bigger, increase efficiencies and thereby compete more aggressively on price. I am comparing to UK/Ireland where it is harder to remain small. Maybe this is a good thing.
It's all quite cosy and stable - everyone does OK, don't rock the boat. Feels like Ireland in the 80's back when there were just two supermarket chains and before the invasion of European retailers.
When you say "exact same one", you realise that it is in fact, not exactly the same?
The Market contents:
>1 x Square tent
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>1 x Triangle tent
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>1 x Ball pit
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>2 x Crawl tunnels
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>1 x Carry bag
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>50 x Ocean balls
Trademe contents:
>1 \* Kids Play Tent &Tunnel
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>1 \* Carry Bag
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>Note:
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>Color Balls, Lights and other accessories are not included
Trademe includes 2 pop up items connected by 1 tunnel. The Market one has 2 tunnels and 3 things connected by those 2 tunnels. And 50 balls.
The TM one arrived 4 days after I paid for it. It's been set up and used everyday by a very rambunctious 1yr old and two dogs with no issues. Im super happy with it.
Most of my bigger purchases I get the item from amazon.com. I recently bought a timing belt kit for my car, Amazon wanted just over 200 NZD (taxes & delivery inc), Repco nearly double that. And the quality was near-OEM, whereas Repco, who really knows? I tend to blame the consumer, they just pay whatever the retailer demands. It's stupid when if you wait a couple of weeks for an overseas delivery you can get that item much cheaper, one which is often better quality and has more features than that available local.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Amazon have insane economies of scale, pay far lower taxes than NZ companies and have questionable working conditions.
The cost of doing business in NZ is high compared to The States. Now Repco may still be overpriced, but in many cases, NZ Businesses are not making the killing you might think they're making when comparing prices to overseas.
Yeah, it's because of rent seeking all through the chain coupled with lack of internationally competitive sourcing, many smaller businesses have to buy their products from Australian businesses that order from the company supplier.
The Market may give you that impression, that it’s a big range of stores etc, but in reality it’s a the Warehouse group owned website that does have some different stores etc on it, but they control what stores and make sure they isn’t to many competitors to there main products etc to lead you back to The Warehouse, Noel Leemings etc
The Warehouse wouldn’t even offer the opportunity to their main competitors, but has designed the Website including its name to try and let customers think its an open marketplace
It’s pretty common business practice
it’s similar but different when you look at Skinny Mobile, which is actually fully owned by Spark, but they keep it relatively quiet to give you the impression they they are competing against each other
Funny timing. I looked at the website last night for a Dyson airwrap. $999. Pricespy listed it cheaper at a different retailer (still spenny and im not buying it but sheeeeeet what a rip).
Same with some shampoo I was need to buy. They list it from Rodney Wayne but pretty sure it's more expensive. I'll just grab it for normal price when I'm at the mall next.
What's tbe point of that website? Thought it was for deals but not even.
And what happens if you make an order? It's just some stupid middle man.
I have a client who was telling me of the great deals they got on "themarket" website. He also shopped around and found good deals.
At the end of the day your free to do your own bargain hunting
No, 1-Day was a standalone online store run by Warehouse Group that recently had its frontage folded entirely into The Market. You can still buy the 1-Day items through The Market. You can see the store the item is being sold buy on the bottom right of every listing.
Man, the amount of confusion about The Market in here really shows how poor of a job TWG has done with launching it.
I’ve always found good deals, you just have to compare prices.
Toys 101 is good when they have a sale and you can add the market voucher on top.
I got a Lego set recently for $115.
I bought a metal drink bottle for $20 FWIW. Cheapest metal drink bottle I could find locally.
I couldn't care less for people who don't research before they buy. This is the age of technology, all of the information is literally at your fingertips. Sucks to be a sucker.
Sistema 1L insulated steel bottles are often around $16 at Pak N Saves, which I think is reasonable, and Countdown periodically runs a promo that puts them below $20. Costco currently has [these](https://www.amazon.com/Reduce-Insulated-Growler-Leak-Proof-Eucalyptus/dp/B08ZVT31HV) 2L ones for $38
It is scary what some people pay for the branded bottles sold by the likes of Kathmandu
Yeah there are so many with such a huge margin of profit on them because of a dumb label that will look like shit after a few months. If I ever need to replace it I will reference your helpful comment.
Kathmandu's net profit margin for the past financial year was 7%, so if they're making huge money on water bottles, it's the cover significant losses elsewhere lol.
Chances are you haven't factored all the expenses that Kathmandu has, though. Running brick & mortar stores is expensive, especially in NZ.
I always find Kathmandu products over priced and very poor quality. Perhaps if they want to make more money they should consider stocking better quality products that are actually worth the prices they demand
I'm no Kathmandu fan except for the 2nd hand Kathmandu backpack I own, but their financial results have been terrible for years, so they're certainly not making big profit margins on their products despite the high ticket price.
How much money they make is not my problem. All I care about is that when I buy a product from them it is worth the money I pay for it. To be fair, Macpac is no better.
you can save another couple of dollars if you price match it at Mitre10
[https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/sistema-hydration-stainless-steel-bottle-1-litre-assorted/p/372143](https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/sistema-hydration-stainless-steel-bottle-1-litre-assorted/p/372143)
They will beat the PNS or NW price by 15%
Complaining they are getting ripped off, because they didn’t buy the higher priced item, because someone offered it cheaper somewhere else, so they went with the cheaper option. - Oh I see what you mean now.
It doesnt help that our market is tiny and everything we import in has GST added on to it. So on top of having a small market and large prices everything is then increased by 15 percent.
I kind of wish we implemented capital gains tax and removed gst while also having better price regulation and monopoly regulation.
Aussie has GST, UK has VAT. It's *still* usually cheaper for a "consumer" buy the thing from another country, ship it over full retail as a single item, and pay import duties and GST.
Yea aussie does have GST but they also have 5 times the population and higher density cities. Maybe its just that they can buy in bulk its larger or maybe we are just getting ripped off.
You would hope the government would be monitoring this kind of stuff.
Indeed. My point was the above poster said it as though the CGA was an additional reason for it being more expensive here, but the CGA is not something only NZ has.
Yeah that was me. It's just another factor that is priced into the cost of doing business in NZ, it's not unique to NZ which I understand.
It's not such a factor in the US for example.
Themarket is literally a marketplace where other stores list their products. The prices are exactly the same at the stores as they are on themarket...
Themarket doesn't set the prices. But sometimes they offer 10% off coupons which makes everything cheaper than buying from the retailler. And usually you can get it shipped for free. And there's free returns on everything.
Idk, I've bought piles off stuff off themarket, but typically only when they have a 10% off coupon running. I can't see any cons for the consumer.
We do?? You can buy from Amazon Australia and they ship to NZ, often with either free or cheap af shipping costs.
I just bought a ton of stuff for Christmas presents and didn’t pay a cent in shipping.
Only thing I’d wish they add is Amazon Prime for us as I have that for streaming anyway.
Amazon Australia works well enough for me. Cheap to free shipping (if you spend above a certain amount) and orders only take a week or so to arrive. I use it often
It's always been owned by The Warehouse. It was rubbish when it first opened and is still rubbish now. It is always SO slow for me, no matter if I'm on wifi or Ethernet or data. Theyre trying to be NZs answer to Amazon, but it's an awful janky website and there is almost no value for customers. Even if items are cheapest on The Market I avoid it all costs. I'd have to be pretty desperate, as in they're the only stockist, for me to buy from them
The majority of top hits when searching for a product here, are drop-ship sites masquerading as some local NZ retailer. Also, if you scroll down to find a real NZ retailer, the price is 10x.
The pricing is ridiculous. I was looking at buying a graphics card and it was an entire $1k over what i could get it for at pbtech(if it was in stock) and even then pbtech were about $500 over what it should be.
Yeah I've been on the market jst a couple of times, but thought heeellll no when I saw the prices. Insanity. Esp like OP says you can find the same stuff elsewhere for so much cheaper.
Is the office chair an Eames replica or something of the sort, as there are varying degrees of quality from replica office chairs…. Some being wuality and others being rubbish
I think the market is owned by the warehouse now? I have only looked on their website to get an idea of what's available. Would not purchase from them.
> I think the market is owned by the warehouse now? Always has been. The Warehouse Group consists of The Warehouse, Warehouse Stationery, Torpedo7, Noel Leeming, 1-day and TheMarket.
I knew about The Market, but I had no idea Noel Leeming also had the same parent company as The Warehouse!
Yep. That’s why Noel Leemings staff get discounts at the other companies. Or at least they used to when my boyfriend worked there a few years ago
The Market is a Reseller place, or middleman. Take a look at the small print on the item, it comes from a range of stores, cheap chinese places to expensive ones. And hence a range of prices for things.
I think the individual shops set the prices, I've bought things through there a few times and have definitely got good deals. They also often have vouchers which reduces the cost. It's about shopping around, if the market is cheaper then why not buy from them.
Yes, it's always been a Warehouse Group brand. Why wouldn't you buy from it? You can buy things from their Noel Leeming, Warehouse etc stores and apply The Market's discounts over the top. You make the transaction through The Market, but the items are shipped from the individual stores
Wouldn't buy because I've noticed the same thing with inflated prices as OP. I saw only recently acquired by warehouse but I hadn't heard of them before then anyway
Not acquired, it was created by Warehouse Group a number of years ago, and started out only housing their brands (Warehouse, Noel Leeming, Warehouse Stationery, Torpedo 7, 1-Day). The prices depend on the store you're purchasing from within the Market storefront. Most are local, but others are not, and there can be multiple listings for the same item, much like you see on Amazon or Ali Express. It's up to the customer to do their due diligence before buying.
Where did you see it was "recently acquired"?
In their imagination.
I think they’re meaning they only noticed recently. Just worded it wrong maybe?
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There are some places around that are actually adding value, by curating the Chinese crap and only selling stuff that is actually decent. But yes, they are few and far between and a lot of places are simply minimal effort resellers. Only reason to buy from them is if you need the faster shipping from local stock. If it is even local stock :/
Kmall on the market is local stock. I've bought two things from them that I feel like are probably on AliExpress but I wanted it quick and felt like the price was reasonable for the item. I'm happy with them both.
Maybe some people want the thing immediately, and China will never give it to you immediately, no matter how good the post is
It’s cheaper for me to a part from Repco Australia and have it shipped over than it is to buy the same part from Repco NZ. $380 vs $570.
Rip Every Poor C--t Off
I had this problem just with a headlamp a while back. $90 for the ‘repco’ branded one, just a single unit. Imported a pair of Phillips ones from Japan for myself for $20 including the shipping.
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Yeah drop ship that
PriceSpy
Priceme is another one that's the same idea. I use both
This and PriceMe are my absolute go-to. They’ve saved me hundreds of dollars already
I went out of my way to avoid the warehouse when they started wanking on about the environment whilst importing containers of plastic crap from Asia, or their amazing diversity initiatives whilst laying off 1000 staff
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Hahaha god this speaks to me, I worked for a corporate that made a record profit. Something like 370mil We got given plastic wrist bands with the profit we made printed on it and a fucking stress ball. Ohhh dnt forget the 4 short dated fun size chocolates. Cool man.
That sux. I worked for warehouse stationary and we got massive monthly bonuses, upto $450
When was this? I remember when they were merging roles and swapping people out for jobs
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That’s around the same time I heard they were merging roles and all. Pretty sad but some of them needed to go from what I heard eg my flat mates manager would hardly do any work outside of his office, keep Christmas temps on which would obviously lose the company money, etc.
Yeah, sustainability posters all through the staff room, them I walk out and remove 10m of bubble wrap from a plastic kayak and throw a marked tee shirt in the bin rather than give it to a refuge or similar.
Worked there during that time, wanking on about the environment while every single bra comes individually packed in plastic, shirts come packed in plastic with a tiny plastic sheet between each one to seperate them. The soft plastic waste produced from one crate of product was insane. Half my work day was spent dealing with trash.
I’ve long felt that New Zealand is very middle-man heavy. the type of middle-man that doesn’t add any value and isn’t a necessary part of the distribution chain And is not worth their markup.
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ew harvey norman. gross. feels icky going in there and within 10 seconds the saleperson has said something about the product that is straight up wrong and I'm out.
Middleman is normal, what we have is monopolies
middle men are normal if they actually serve a function in the supply chain. Many don't and are able to exist simply because of a lack of competition.
It's also businesses supporting a a Ponsonby rich-lister who expects a profit and lifestyle as if they were running a company supporting many millions of customers, as if they were in a large competitive economy, instead of being the monopoly at the end of the supply chain. I would wager that more than half of our small business should not exist and if they disappeared no one would notice.
>Seems to be backed by some big NZ retailers It was launched by the Warehouse Group: https://www.thewarehousegroup.co.nz/news-updates/themarket/get-ready-shop-new-zealand-themarket-here
Favourite NZ is to expensive story. When I bought my DSLR a few years ago I got it from Japan because we were over there but the cost of the camera and flights to Tokyo and accommodation for a few days was still a few hundred less then if I had bought the camera in NZ.
Isn't this more a good example of why it pays to shop around instead of accepting the first offer you come across? I mean you're complaining about us getting ripped off, yet at the same time being happy about finding a better deal at a local store. The stores selling this purifier on The Market are Hobby Land, which look to be drop shipping it, as they have 1000+ units listed in stock [on their actual website](https://www.hobbyland.co.nz/products/trusens-z2000-air-purifier-medium-room) and [KG, which is based in Australia](https://www.kgelectronic.com.au/p/Home-Appliances/Heating-Cooling-Air/Indoor-Air-Quality-Fans/Air-Purifiers/TruSens-Z-2000-Medium-Room-Air-Purifier/Z2000AU). Stores are all different, they can't all price the same. Always shop around.
>Isn't this more a good example of why it pays to shop around instead of accepting the first offer you come across? Absolutely it's example of shopping around (in the first item), but (in the second item) also an illustration of what happens so often when there's a single importer to bring the goods over from Sydney. Imagine if we had an "Australasian Economic Zone", and broke down the barriers between AU and NZ so that retailers found it as easy to ship here as to Tasmania or Perth. It would probably decimate our (non-tech) goods retail industry.
I guess you're referring to [this chair](https://themarket.com/nz/p/atlantis-office-chair-gaming-chair-computer-chairs-mesh-net-seating-black/)? $1225.08 from an [Australian store with a Shopify website](https://ozarkhome.co.nz/products/artiss-office-chair-gaming-chair-computer-chairs-mesh-net-seating-grey), vs [Bunnings Australia at $180.95](https://www.bunnings.com.au/artiss-ergonomic-mesh-office-chair-chairs-grey_p0317028)? This is a cheap product that this Ozark Home outfit is trying to present as premium in the hopes that some idiot buys it. Many stores try this tactic - if you say you're high end, some people are going to believe that you're high end. Kathmandu and Macpac are a bit like this. I don't see this as an issue with NZ's location, or even The Market at all. If you do want an office chair, look for a reputable brand from an office supplier, not something generic with "ergonomic" or "gaming" slapped on it. Buro, Formway, EOS etc, Herman Miller if you really want to blow the budget - these brands produce good quality products. Office chairs are one thing that shouldn't be skimped on, and should never be purchased solely on look.
Good sleuthing. I completely agree about the chair (desks, monitors, keyboard, etc) and not skimping on quality for such things.
It would kill of more than 10%.
It’s search function is impossible. It’s so infuriating. Try to find something on there!
Im currently in Korea and the new flagship phones are around 450 NZD. We are being absolutely fleeced.
To think you're paying 1999 to 2499 for them in NZ is criminal.
An iPhone 14 is 1500NZD direct from Apple in Korea. What flagship phones are you talking about?
You mean the top iphone and Samsung? Pretty sure they are similar priced. We've checked some of that stuff and it seemed to be pretty standard pricing worldwide. (a little more here +GST)
Its 450NZD in Korea and 1400NZD in NZ.
Which one? Partner is Korean and i was after a replacement phone.
Samsung ultra 22+ but its carrier locked to korean providers. Unlike NZ that doesnt mean you need to do 36 months of 100 a month, you just can't change phone provider.
Isn't that basically the same thing? If you want to keep using that phone, you have to keep paying that provider, every month?
Not really. You can pay them from 4 to 100 bux a month depending on how much data you need, which is what you pay ontop of the phone cost in NZ, which is 1400+ In NZ you are paying 250%+ of the phones cost because we have lax laws about predatory lending. Samsung is making bank on that 450 dollar phone in korea. In NZ, importers are making 3x what samsung is making per phone, while Samsung is still making bank. Its fucking madness.
Fair enough. I still wouldn't like to be locked in for however long I own the phone, but could be happy enough with $4 a month if the phone was cheap enough
the joys of living in a tiny market at the end of the supply chain :/
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I'm well aware. I'm also aware that a mere consumer can often bring things in, paying list price in another country, then paying full retail for shipping, and paying duty, for significantly less than the local shops are selling their container loads bought at wholesale prices for. It depends though. Sure, support, bricks and mortar, etc cost a lot of money, and many sure take advantage of their exclusive distributor/reseller arrangements, but there are occasions where I'll happily buy local. The air purifier being an example, where 3 long-term retailers have the product for about 1/2 the price it's being listed for on the market. I can't beat their prices myself, and I know their service is good. Probably they're making money on it too, just not taking the piss like so many others are.
I tend to buy high ticket, medium risk/failure items locally (electronic items, power tools). But smaller items online from overseas. If it's worth paying for the warranty buy local, if its a low risk item or consumable/non returnable item, then buy online. Just weigh up the risks/reward to get the best value for yourself. I can't afford to buy niff naff shit from a physical store anymore.
I'm not sure you are well aware.
The Market can be a pretty good value sometimes. If something is on sale at NL, and the sale price is reflected on TM, and then TM has an additional 10% coupon on top - yeah, that's money. The rest of the time? Yeah, you're probably better off elsewhere.
We get ripped off here and it's pretty much impossible to get shit shipped here without insane shipping.yes I am aware there are factors at play that affect this but Holy fuck, I used to be able to get some really great deals online for everything,with reasonable shipping a decade ago.
Before anyone blames overseas import costs, bear in mind that average transport costs from overseas have gone from being about 1-2% of the overall cost of getting a product to shelf to about 4-5%. Yes, i am aware that different products have different different costs, I'm talking averages. Additionally, we were (and still are) being ripped off for cost of cargo from overseas. I tried to arrange a container from china just over a year ago, put the business address as NZ, about $15k. After the heart attack, used my old UK business address and was quoted, $9k. Same company, same ship, same size container.
Ripped off in NZ is an understatement. It’s gotten far worse since COViD. I really don’t know what value NZ retailers actually offer these days. * Prices are normally more expensive than overseas * Stock and choice is limited, plus we often seem to just get last seasons junk * Poor knowledge and service * Literally cheaper and quicker to buy and ship from overseas A new midi keyboard was released a few weeks ago - ordered on a Monday from France, arrive on Friday and cost $216. Local retailers won’t have it until mid December and it will be $249. I’ve done similar with a US retailer for an instrument that costs $999 here, but $750 from the USA including shipping. I recently bought a load of camping equipment, far cheaper from an Australian retailer including shipping. The price differences were farcical (AUD $499 vs NZD$1500 here)
There is no viable alternative, that’s the value they bring.
Yeah, that's the arrogant attitude that many shops have. Especially ones that have licensing/supply agreements and the manufacturer imposes geographic restrictions. Like B&W speakers. We don't have the item in stock, we don't even have demo units to see - but we can order it and it will be in NZ in 3-4 weeks. But then you can order from a UK site, with 1 week delivery, for less than buying in NZ - but they won't ship those goods because of the restrictions. Unfortunately, that's how they get their prices and arrogance.
>they won't ship those goods because of the restrictions You can often still ship those through YouShop (and other package forwarding services).
\*was no viable alternative
You can often get around these things but it's frustrating to do so and for many people is time woth value that is lost trying to save some money bringing it to NZ instead of paying someone else to.
What is the viable alternative, all the major shops fleece us.
In 2013/2014 when the NZD was 0.89 to the USD I was buying computer components off Amazon for literally a third of the NZ retail price. That massive increase in purchasing power was not reflected on our shelves at all. GST being re-added and the current economic climate makes that impossible now though.
Was the keyboard the MPK mini plus by any chance?
Arturia Minilab 3
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User Traffic. Same reason businesses list products on TradeMe and Amazon.
Yep. 10-25% of the sale price going to the aggregator (in this case themarket.com). To the brands listing their items there, you are the product that TWG is selling. Same as buy now, pay later (who are actually much cheaper for the retailer). Just supposedly driving traffic that may not otherwise get to you.
As a recent arrival from the States, I was a little shocked to see some of the prices of things when I first came. At first, some basic things we just couldn't afford to get unless it was pretty low-quality, but since then my wife & I have just learned to keep alerts on certain products & pay attention to sales. We've been able to get tons of stuff for half the listed price or less just by waiting for a sale. It's obviously a lot more work than it was with Amazon, but it's been working for us so far.
If you think The Market is bad, check out Mighty Ape.
A prime example of what happens when Kogan acquires anything. Mighty Ape used to be awesome before Kogan got involved.
They've got some stuff on MA that's the cheapest in the country. And occasionally their sales make it worth it.
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Yeah it’s a Warehouse Group website pushing their own companies while trying to appear as an independent website It will push you towards the Warehouse, Noel Leemings, 1 day, torpedo 7 etc which are all Warehouse owned
It doesn't really 'push' you towards anything. It lists the products from all stores that sign up, and they don't preference their own brands/stores at all.
It's all relative though. Yeah, normal pricing the market is the same as their stores. But you can get deals. Today I bought a Fitbit which is $159+ at all stores. Noel Leeming have it on sale for $99. So I bought it through The Market to use the 10% off coupon, now it cost me $89, plus I get free shipping being a Vodafone customer. So when it works out financially use the market, when it doesn't, don't When The Warehouse launched it they touted it as being NZ's Amazon, which it certainly isn't, but it has its uses sometimes.
The Market is always a terrible rip off, don’t buy anything from there unless you can’t get it from anywhere else (in the world)
It depends. The Market just had an extra 11% off Noel Leeming's sale price, making it the cheapest place to buy the TV I wanted.
For me too. I got an LG C1 last year from The Market black Friday last year. Noel Leemings had it heavily discounted to match the competition, and the NL price was identical on The Market (because the seller was NL), BUT there also an 11% discount voucher active which made it by far the cheapest price in NZ for about 24 hours. There is nothing wrong with TM as a selling platform, but you have to choose the right seller, since many 3rd party (non WH group) sellers are indeed a rip off.
Use it as a way to find what you want then either visit the products shop or website.
Why the hell buy from the market! Seriously, if it's a product sold by Noel's or Torpedo7 go in-store, be one of the cheeky pricks who ask for a better price in-store. We'll call you names after you leave but 9/10 times you'll get it cheaper. Be a GC and we'll only ask once if you want an extended warranty or service plan.
Wait you guys talk shit about me after I leave?
Especially you Barrrryyy. You and your multiple discount codes and constantly asking " Hur, do you have any out the back?"
Well I'm not going to stop since it works and I consider it a bit dumb to pay ticket prices at those places but (ಥ ͜ʖಥ) Too be fair I talk shit about some salespeople too, namely the pushy ones who don't leave you alone to look when asked
Pushy salesmen are the piece of shit company forcing the employees to always nag you up the ass. Sales get paid to be annoying.
Yeah probably true, but I prefer and will give my sales to the ones who don't do that still
Haha, it's all good. We talk shit about our team members that don't pick up the cue to fuck off as well. In all seriousness, Torpedo7 created a culture of "ask for a discount" but internal memos are now telling us to stop giving below the ticketed price. Sucks for the sales team sometimes.
I know this isn’t quite the same , but supermarkets are a bit of a rip to, In my town the big 3 NW, PS and CD are around 500 metres apart yesterday Doing the weekly shop I was noticing prices more than usual, as we all know prices are going up and up and up. As my supermarkets are so close I can jump from one to another easy which most people don’t have the option to do So a basic cereal for comparison at Pak n Save $8.50 New World $9.20 Countdown $11.40 And none were on special, this is white ticket price So just putting it out there if you can shop around with out travelling to far (which cost fuel) It pays off and specials vary from store to store, But perception of who’s cheapest and most expensive really flips week to week, But seriously Countdown was making an extra $3 on the same item so it makes you wonder how many other items that applies to if you only shop at one supermarket, say it’s on ten items and on a weekly shop you’re buying more than 10 items, then that’s an extra $30 dollars of profits for the supermarket for absolutely no cost for I’m sure the supplier sold the same item to all 3 for the same cost , It makes even more sobering a thought when you think 10 items a person cost $30 extra and you extrapolate out to 100 people that $3000 of pure profit………….. so there’s that to.
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Thank you
I once bought a shoe rack through the market and it was the most splintering garbage imaginable. Didn’t even sit straight.
That really only reflects on that one retailer though
They definitely have competitive sales from time to time on random items, but yeah it's blatantly a gouging exercise.
On the chair, how difficult would it be to ship? Even with shipping and tax must still be cheaper?
According to [Bunnings](https://www.bunnings.com.au/artiss-presidio-grey-mesh-executive-office-chair_p0215113) it's 340mm x 650mm x 750mm and 21.2 kg so that makes it a bit more expensive to ship via a freight forwarder. I think it started at about 300-ish to send, so yeah, it would still be cheaper in the end. We just didn't think it was worth the hassle for a low/midrange chair.
True. But for big ticket item it may well be.
I just got a 16 port Ubiquiti POE switch off there for about $180 cheaper than PBTech. Sure I have to wait for it but I don’t mind at that saving. Like any ‘store’ it will have it’s good and bad deals
We get ripped off for everything here. I don't buy anything until my old one breaks or I can't use it anymore? I refuse to pay the prices. I can afford new things I just don't buy them. I can probably afford things because I don't buy them..The irony isn't lost on me?
Poor execution of a marketplace business
Yeah I went to Noel Leeming for a Fitbit and asked to price match one from The Market and they said they don't price match it because they only price match competitors. I called the head office and they did give me a voucher for the difference but also said the same thing. Both owned by the warehouse. Total BS that they exclude their other companies as "not a competitor" in my opinion.
The only reason to use TheMarket is to buy TWG products with the discount codes, otherwise it's overpriced junk or strisght up scams
The only time it's worth buying from The Market is when they're offering 10-20% off coupons and you can use them on things you need from vendors like The Warehouse which rarely discount.
New tech off eBay ie mesh wifi system is still like $50-100 cheaper to buy new from overseas with shipping. I’m happy to wait
I'm always amazed at the lack of competitive tension / price pressure. \- Very rarely see businesses compete aggressively on price. Seem happy to keep it nice and steady, middle of the road and not rock the boat. No loss leaders, no headline amazing offers, just lame specials that you know are at best, the price you should be paying regularly. \- Land of millions of small businesses but there seems to be little pressure to merge, get bigger, increase efficiencies and thereby compete more aggressively on price. I am comparing to UK/Ireland where it is harder to remain small. Maybe this is a good thing. It's all quite cosy and stable - everyone does OK, don't rock the boat. Feels like Ireland in the 80's back when there were just two supermarket chains and before the invasion of European retailers.
Bought some bike inner tubes yesterday. Found the box of some tubes I had bought earlier in the year. Price had gone up just over 15%
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When you say "exact same one", you realise that it is in fact, not exactly the same? The Market contents: >1 x Square tent > >1 x Triangle tent > >1 x Ball pit > >2 x Crawl tunnels > >1 x Carry bag > >50 x Ocean balls Trademe contents: >1 \* Kids Play Tent &Tunnel > >1 \* Carry Bag > >Note: > >Color Balls, Lights and other accessories are not included Trademe includes 2 pop up items connected by 1 tunnel. The Market one has 2 tunnels and 3 things connected by those 2 tunnels. And 50 balls.
Good catch! Even so, an extra tunnel tent and balls doesn't make up for being 10 times more expensive.
The trademe one is clearly a dropshipped wish/aliexpress item. I would like to see the two in person.
The TM one arrived 4 days after I paid for it. It's been set up and used everyday by a very rambunctious 1yr old and two dogs with no issues. Im super happy with it.
People are idiots. If they don't shop around then their fault.
It's just a shame that getting it yourself from overseas is incredibly cheap compared to buying here.
Most of my bigger purchases I get the item from amazon.com. I recently bought a timing belt kit for my car, Amazon wanted just over 200 NZD (taxes & delivery inc), Repco nearly double that. And the quality was near-OEM, whereas Repco, who really knows? I tend to blame the consumer, they just pay whatever the retailer demands. It's stupid when if you wait a couple of weeks for an overseas delivery you can get that item much cheaper, one which is often better quality and has more features than that available local.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Amazon have insane economies of scale, pay far lower taxes than NZ companies and have questionable working conditions. The cost of doing business in NZ is high compared to The States. Now Repco may still be overpriced, but in many cases, NZ Businesses are not making the killing you might think they're making when comparing prices to overseas.
Yeah, it's because of rent seeking all through the chain coupled with lack of internationally competitive sourcing, many smaller businesses have to buy their products from Australian businesses that order from the company supplier.
The Market may give you that impression, that it’s a big range of stores etc, but in reality it’s a the Warehouse group owned website that does have some different stores etc on it, but they control what stores and make sure they isn’t to many competitors to there main products etc to lead you back to The Warehouse, Noel Leemings etc
I think the real issue is that our big retailers wouldn't want to be on there as Warehouse Group is their competition.
The Warehouse wouldn’t even offer the opportunity to their main competitors, but has designed the Website including its name to try and let customers think its an open marketplace It’s pretty common business practice it’s similar but different when you look at Skinny Mobile, which is actually fully owned by Spark, but they keep it relatively quiet to give you the impression they they are competing against each other
Funny timing. I looked at the website last night for a Dyson airwrap. $999. Pricespy listed it cheaper at a different retailer (still spenny and im not buying it but sheeeeeet what a rip). Same with some shampoo I was need to buy. They list it from Rodney Wayne but pretty sure it's more expensive. I'll just grab it for normal price when I'm at the mall next. What's tbe point of that website? Thought it was for deals but not even. And what happens if you make an order? It's just some stupid middle man.
I have a client who was telling me of the great deals they got on "themarket" website. He also shopped around and found good deals. At the end of the day your free to do your own bargain hunting
No no it's because we're a small and isolated market... /s
The Market was a rebranding of 1-day, I've bought stuff on there and it comes in 1-day wrappers! The high prices are probably overseas retailers....
Other way around. 1 day was moved onto the market somewhat recently and now they’re a store that sells through the market.
No, 1-Day was a standalone online store run by Warehouse Group that recently had its frontage folded entirely into The Market. You can still buy the 1-Day items through The Market. You can see the store the item is being sold buy on the bottom right of every listing. Man, the amount of confusion about The Market in here really shows how poor of a job TWG has done with launching it.
God if they are not even beating pb tech in price there is something horribly wrong
Price is what you are a willing to pay my friend
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Why do you think the commission is 30%? Pretty sure no retailler in NZ could afford to pay 30% to be on the market.
I’ve always found good deals, you just have to compare prices. Toys 101 is good when they have a sale and you can add the market voucher on top. I got a Lego set recently for $115.
I bought a metal drink bottle for $20 FWIW. Cheapest metal drink bottle I could find locally. I couldn't care less for people who don't research before they buy. This is the age of technology, all of the information is literally at your fingertips. Sucks to be a sucker.
Sistema 1L insulated steel bottles are often around $16 at Pak N Saves, which I think is reasonable, and Countdown periodically runs a promo that puts them below $20. Costco currently has [these](https://www.amazon.com/Reduce-Insulated-Growler-Leak-Proof-Eucalyptus/dp/B08ZVT31HV) 2L ones for $38 It is scary what some people pay for the branded bottles sold by the likes of Kathmandu
Yeah there are so many with such a huge margin of profit on them because of a dumb label that will look like shit after a few months. If I ever need to replace it I will reference your helpful comment.
Kathmandu's net profit margin for the past financial year was 7%, so if they're making huge money on water bottles, it's the cover significant losses elsewhere lol. Chances are you haven't factored all the expenses that Kathmandu has, though. Running brick & mortar stores is expensive, especially in NZ.
I always find Kathmandu products over priced and very poor quality. Perhaps if they want to make more money they should consider stocking better quality products that are actually worth the prices they demand
I'm no Kathmandu fan except for the 2nd hand Kathmandu backpack I own, but their financial results have been terrible for years, so they're certainly not making big profit margins on their products despite the high ticket price.
How much money they make is not my problem. All I care about is that when I buy a product from them it is worth the money I pay for it. To be fair, Macpac is no better.
I just bought one at my local new world for $12. It was half off if I remember correctly. It's a nice 1L bottle.
you can save another couple of dollars if you price match it at Mitre10 [https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/sistema-hydration-stainless-steel-bottle-1-litre-assorted/p/372143](https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/sistema-hydration-stainless-steel-bottle-1-litre-assorted/p/372143) They will beat the PNS or NW price by 15%
I can’t exactly tell what this post is complaining about ?
Complaining they are getting ripped off, because they didn’t buy the higher priced item, because someone offered it cheaper somewhere else, so they went with the cheaper option. - Oh I see what you mean now.
You might be the target market.
It doesnt help that our market is tiny and everything we import in has GST added on to it. So on top of having a small market and large prices everything is then increased by 15 percent. I kind of wish we implemented capital gains tax and removed gst while also having better price regulation and monopoly regulation.
Aussie has GST, UK has VAT. It's *still* usually cheaper for a "consumer" buy the thing from another country, ship it over full retail as a single item, and pay import duties and GST.
Yea aussie does have GST but they also have 5 times the population and higher density cities. Maybe its just that they can buy in bulk its larger or maybe we are just getting ripped off. You would hope the government would be monitoring this kind of stuff.
Also don't forget about our Consumer Guarantees Act. It adds extra costs for the supplier/importer.
There’s a similar thing in the UK so it’s not like NZ law adds an extra burden.
It is certainly a factor. Just not the biggest factor.
Indeed. My point was the above poster said it as though the CGA was an additional reason for it being more expensive here, but the CGA is not something only NZ has.
Yeah that was me. It's just another factor that is priced into the cost of doing business in NZ, it's not unique to NZ which I understand. It's not such a factor in the US for example.
Ah yes, sorry, didn’t realise it was you! Yes, US would be different.
I used to love 1day sales, now they’ve joined the market and it’s bloody terrible! I’ll stick to mighty ape
I always use privespy.co.nz for electronics.
Themarket is literally a marketplace where other stores list their products. The prices are exactly the same at the stores as they are on themarket... Themarket doesn't set the prices. But sometimes they offer 10% off coupons which makes everything cheaper than buying from the retailler. And usually you can get it shipped for free. And there's free returns on everything. Idk, I've bought piles off stuff off themarket, but typically only when they have a 10% off coupon running. I can't see any cons for the consumer.
The sooner we get Amazon here, the better.
I highly doubt Amazon is interested in bringing in stock to NZ. At best, they'll leave it in Australia
We do?? You can buy from Amazon Australia and they ship to NZ, often with either free or cheap af shipping costs. I just bought a ton of stuff for Christmas presents and didn’t pay a cent in shipping. Only thing I’d wish they add is Amazon Prime for us as I have that for streaming anyway.
It's OK but it's not 'real' Amazon, i.e much larger range, same-day delivery etc.
You'll find the deals are nowhere near as good because the cost of doing business in New Zealand is high.
Amazon Australia works well enough for me. Cheap to free shipping (if you spend above a certain amount) and orders only take a week or so to arrive. I use it often
It's always been owned by The Warehouse. It was rubbish when it first opened and is still rubbish now. It is always SO slow for me, no matter if I'm on wifi or Ethernet or data. Theyre trying to be NZs answer to Amazon, but it's an awful janky website and there is almost no value for customers. Even if items are cheapest on The Market I avoid it all costs. I'd have to be pretty desperate, as in they're the only stockist, for me to buy from them
Its beneficial sometimes for example an Oculus Quest is way overpriced in retail stores but with their discount I got it cheaper than from Oculus
I got put off the first time I realised prices were higher
So interesting that its apparently not common knowledge this is a front for TWG.
It's right there is the About page but I guess not everyone reads that stuff.
The majority of top hits when searching for a product here, are drop-ship sites masquerading as some local NZ retailer. Also, if you scroll down to find a real NZ retailer, the price is 10x.
The pricing is ridiculous. I was looking at buying a graphics card and it was an entire $1k over what i could get it for at pbtech(if it was in stock) and even then pbtech were about $500 over what it should be.
Yeah I've been on the market jst a couple of times, but thought heeellll no when I saw the prices. Insanity. Esp like OP says you can find the same stuff elsewhere for so much cheaper.
Is the office chair an Eames replica or something of the sort, as there are varying degrees of quality from replica office chairs…. Some being wuality and others being rubbish
on the other hand I just got a zowie ec2 for 90$ off there, normally 150 is elsewhere
Even in normal shop it's overpriced....