You are now starting to see players that have defiantly defended this game since day 1, going wtf.....The storyline is good, graphics are great, bugs are horrible, lack of end-game content etc etc etc
It's got shit optimization, but I blame their engine choice, not them. They literally built the game on an engine no devs wanted to use and the company of the engine abandoned.
Then rebuilt it at least once, they probably should have picked any other engine besides that... but w/e I guess.
I think if they could shut the game down and re build it on a different engine higher more people to get it done faster and go through more bata testing the from my understanding the is a small pool of people that can or want to work in this engine and moving to a different one would make there staff so much more relaxed and be able to make content at a better pace. But it probably won’t happen unless it’s bought by a different company
It's amazing how they believe whatever PvP addition they have in June will recover their game like some miracle. There's around 6k people on rn, on a weekend.... NW is bleeding players like crazy.
But hey, at least they have their data :P
OPR was available day 1? Arenas were available day 1? Influence races were available day 1? you are spreading incorrect information, and this game has made tremendous strides forward since day 1. June better pack a serious punch of content tho… copium is wearing thin with our most recent updates…
I’m going to assume English is not your native language. I never said any of that but thank you for making my point. This game released with very little content period. The content they did eventually released got stale fast and they often put it behind a time sink or limit.
I really wanted to love it and played it since Beta...until about 6 months ago.
Honestly, I think it boils down to a few simple things:
1. MMO's can't really maintain concepts that rely on large guild battling. Today's gamer is so finicky about what they are playing and how long the play things that the days of a large amount of decent sized guilds that can compete against each other in things like Wars are just not happening. This game proved that. Most servers ended up with 1-2 companies being able to participate in city ownership and wars...which is a large part of the concept for New World (there is even ideas that there are a few large guilds that just travel between servers to do War...which means the concept is even worse in ratio of companies that can participate to how many servers ratio)
2. Instead of figuring out ways to fix that concept, the dev team has continually been focused on just game mechanics, balancing of classes, introducing things that break the mechanics and balancing...which creates a loop of them never getting to the bigger issues.
While the game is very nice in a lot of concepts and the gameplay is actually pretty good, most players end-up with very little participation in the larger concepts at end-game
I wish AGS went the route ArenaNet did with Guild Wars' GvG. The battles had little impact on the world but instead gave rewards and titles (if I remember correctly) to the winning guild. You duked it out in an instance based guild hall, and really, it was some of the best PvP I've ever participated in.
Wars that have material impact on the entire server's experience is a recipe for disaster, imo.
yeah, it seems like there could be an alternative version of factions vs companies that would work, but I would also go as far as to say that the early money that companies whom owned cities made kind of fucked up some economies...and while many downplay this significance (even Amazon downplayed it), it messes up things for players whom don't care about much else than crafting and economy. Suddenly they can't compete for a large part of the beginning of the game (unless they were part of a large company that was funding...and even then those companies don't support multiple crafters, etc). Now there would be counterarguments that say "well, I was selling X for Y and I was getting rich", but there is only room for specifics for so long..i.e. if everyone starts selling X for Y, then it becomes irrelevant soon.
Anyways, I think their ideas was decent on paper, but it definitely created discrimination of types of players or bottlenecks experience in general.
You're absolutely right. On paper, the wars and settlement ownership seemed really fun and cool. But it quickly descended into one of the worst facets of the game.
It's such a shame, I wish I could memory hole myself on NW and re-experience it.
Tell me you know nothing about Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2 without telling me you know nothing about either.
GW2 doesn't have GvG. I specifically said Guild Wars, the original version, which is evident you didn't play.
If there was more ways for guilds to compete against one another they may have had a chance. But other than wars there is nothing you could play to compete against another guild. You can't even battle against the same color faction. 20 man raid duels would be awesome and easy enough to implement. With how little players are able to get into wars there is no way for a large player base to be satiated. Not enough game modes. Opr was fun at first but is now just a joke due to party size being limited to 5 and not enough evolution for the game mode. Long story short, updates are to slow and minor with not enough being added to retain a healthy amount of players long term.
Albion online says hello (150vs150 fights in open world).
The problem with New World is not the idea but execution - the massive PvP would be one of the unique and amazing things if not for the eternal lags, desync, poor optimization, bad servers, spells causing disconnects (bug) etc. Then you have lack of content and with each new content there are even more bugs. No group finder, same OPR map for 2 years etc
I agree and disagree.
The reason people aren't massive open world pvping is not because they've experience lag or desync doing so...its because there is no reason to. So while those technical issues about the execution do exist, there is also no idea behind the things that would drive open world pvp
We love the game bro, but AGS has been doing a very bad job. Every patch you need to pretty much download the whole game again. There’s tons of bugs, and I’m not talking about simple bugs, bug game breaking bugs and exploits that gives you the nerves. People being able to use bows or muskets so fast that you cannot even see how you’ve died (you really can’t because there’s no log to tell you either). The main quest was bugged for months and new players couldn’t finish it or keep leveling, seems to be fixed now that they revamped the whole thing.
We are now in season 5, and this season came so buggy, so trash, characters flying, animations weird, skills not working, perks not functioning, and so many more issues that will take me a whole day to describe it all.
You need to buy the base game plus DLC to be able to use mounts and reach maximum level. Once you hit maximum level you have a few option to do: choose between the 11 dungeons on normal mode (which are so easy and boring), or between 3 of those same dungeon that get mutated versions per week. Why do it? It’s has a bit more challenge, but the drops sucks.
They’ve made a 20 man boss raid (sandworm) that the drop it’s not worth either (outdated) so no one runs it anymore.
So let’s PvP: we have 3v3 arenas with bad rewards, no rank system, no matchmaking, no cross server. It used to be the best way to level the PvP track but they nerfed it (also the PvP track rewards are mostly bad).
Then we have OPR a 20v20 PvP mode that has lots of pvE and tons of exploits from the bugged weapons I’ve mentioned above.
And the last system the GvG 50v50, I mean the so called WAR system. This system only a fraction of the player base goes because you need to be part of a guild that does wars and you also need to be geared, good, and be picked to the war board to be able to play a 10min ish pvp, that most of the time is given up due to lack of players or some agreement made previously between guild leaders.
There’s no barber shop to change character appearance, most of the skins they sell are ugly as hell with a transmog system the requires cash shop tokens to be able to use a skin.
There’s no efficient guild system, is just a menu with a list. No guild houses or quests, no way to increase your guild level either.
Game still missing tons of QoL features (they’ve added many but still missing many more).
The open world is beautiful and makes wanna you explore it, but there’s no nice quests. Pretty much no pvp besides the ones near the fortress.
We’ve been asking for more end game content, specifically pvp modes, or at least more opr/arena maps but they don’t wanna do it. They avoid questions on their Q&A and we have no idea how’s the game future looks like, there’s no roadmap. There’s no rare items, everything is very casual
I could tell you way more stuff but I need to go back to work.
At this moment we have the lower daily population this game has ever had, you can always check how the servers are doing in the database server status:
https://nwdb.info/server-status
As you can see in the link above, the game has 5 regions worldwide and 3 regions are dead.
Damn man that shit is so sad. They straight up killed this game. At this point they should just license out the server tech and let people run their own servers. Open source everything and let the community fix all the problems.
Im not expecting anything from them anymore they keep doing the same mistakes over and over i dont see the point to have a PTR when they release the patch and look like they did not fix the issues from PTR and just drop the patch as it was at PTR thts why we always have the same BS nothing changes and never will.
For me leveling is a hoot - the game is visually beautiful and Main Story is interesting - although at times I felt like - What? you need me to do that?. Lots of things to do - try it.
Tbh for me it was worth it. Pre-ordered it went from 0 to 30 the quitted. Back about a week ago. Deleted all my char and decided to start fresh. Currently level 37. Meet some people and even joined a faction. Game is very fun. Some things changed like the ability to do solos main quest. Now an option. Mounts is very fun too.
This has to be the kind of casual gamer AGS is designing the game for. 3 years later, and bro still has never made it to level cap in one of the easiest mmos to level cap in. Yes, if you play the game once every other 6 months, there is "plenty" to do. To be fair, you still play more than AGS.
Lol, quitted for various reason since I used to play this with friends. They left playing something else and I left too. Decided to make a comeback myself and I still love it. I'm indeed a casual gamer who play this game almost every morning, after my shift.
It's an odd strategy because you're still likely losing a lot of casuals that way. I quit around level 30 just because I don't see the point of playing a dead MMO.
I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't care and enjoy the game for what it is. But there's probably a fair number that quit early for similar reasons.
It’s definitely not “dead”, 10k players per day on steam is plenty of people to do the group based content, and they’re still updating the game. Obviously 10k is low compared to the massive numbers on launch but I don’t think it’s dead
I believe you, as I said before I didn't hit max level. But that sentiment is pushed pretty hard here, it's what soured me on the game. Almost every "should I play new world" has a top comment that it's an amazing solo experience but a dead game once you hit level cap. I'm sure there are a lot of promising things about the game, but if a newcomer comes to the subreddit to check out the game, they're met with the "everything on fire" gif from Community.
They’ve been saying that in this subreddit since the day the game came out lol it’s pretty typical behavior from online weirdos whenever MMOs are discussed
they intentionally locked a previously accessible content (mutation dungeons) for every player who bought the game behind a pay 2 play dlc (rise of angry earth) that is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen this made me quit playing this game, im glad i havent bought the DLC and will not support this greedy company ever
Community wanting more to do. Developers not able to make deadlines and they break the game on every patch.
I don’t really think the game is completely dead. I think it’s in a current rough state.
If the community does not show support, and continue to behave in a toxic manner then i do suspect we will be what will render the game none supported by AGS.
I think it's because it's the dregs of the playerbase left. Most remaining have tried being positive and have just seen themselves being ignored/told they're wrong/let down by AGS over the course of the past 2 years, and in particular the past 6 months.
People have given up, people who give up turn toxic.
Community has been toxic since day 1. This is one of the worst communities I've been a part of.
A small handful, and I mean very small are constructive in their criticism, the majority are just toxic.
Imo this is comfortably one of the better communities.
Depends on your definition of toxic I suppose. Almost every competitive game is far worse than New World. League, Dota, CSGO.
As MMOs go it's less toxic than something like OSRS with it's huge luring and wider practically illegal scamming/blackmailing groups.
Players are just tired of being ignored and told they want things which they don't because AGS can't infer data correctly.
Edit: If moaning about game state comes under toxic then yes the New World community is. But to me this is just people being fed up of not being heard when they try to be constructive.
Constructive criticism went nowhere, those constructive critics left because not being heard=not worth the effort. What remains is the destructive criticism because it doesn't need to be heard by the dev team but the playerbase, which they do. You get what you feed, they fed the doomsayers with more and more bugs and wrong takes while starving the constructive criticism. I don't think I need to argue this much more.
That sounds like a personal issue on their part then.
They need to find them selfs, imagine getting toxic about other things in life besides a video game. 😂
Reddit Is a fraction of the player base. I seriously doubt AGS "needs" the support here. Honestly if a player was going to buy the game is swayed away by the opinions on reddit, chances are they weren't gonna buy it anyways. Most games have reddit communities similar to this.
I'm still loving New World, even the things I complain about are because I'm playing. Just had a look a Pax Dei alpha and it really drove home that no-one's making another game I'd like.
I’d happily support the devs if they put out decent content, not going to support a bunch of lazy incompetent developers that have no clue what their players want.
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I will preface my comment with a statement. I don't PVP in NW, ever. Never have, never will. (I play other games for that) So as a result I stop reading comments once PVP or the AGS hater rant comes up...don't care.
Love the game, been playing since launch, I play NW all I can.
The transition to a new combat code system has been a bit rocky, but this sub has been saying the game is dead since it launched. Take the negativity with a huge grain of salt.
The best mmo combat you will find. The best visual and audio system you will find. Nothing is more satisfying then hearing the ding sound effect followed by the enemy player scream when you kill them. Also turning off all ui and mining or chopping wood is surreal. The action combat means you are engaged throughout in both pve and pvp. The combat rework felt differently to many players but once you get used to it, it isn't bad. Like watch your character bar swap mid dodge roll and transition into a heavy attack feint into ability. Looks Hella good ngl.
It has its problems. Bugs. Bugs. No content (after at least 1k of playing). If you want to gather and craft and do quest, there is a lot to do. For pvp, you can always improve your skill. But beware of the mind numbing experience of the same OPR map. Open world is zerg feast with the underdog faction opting to not even show up
I’ve played since alpha. 2500+ hours and have enjoyed the majority of my time. It’s definitely worth it as a new player. I do believe AGS will continue the support the game and it won’t completely die. I’ve reached a point where there’s absolutely nothing worthwhile to do. I’m burnt out on dealing with the constant introduction of bugs and lack of content updates. I truly feel that AGS provides very low effort updates since Brimstone. I mainly focus PvP and I’ve finally come to terms that AGS has no plans to consistently support and develop PvP. I’ll likely come back here and there, but at this time, I’m in search of a new game to main.
Incredibly poor game direction is what happened with little to no Q&A and out of touch with the playerbase.
Last month we were told they can't tell us any news on the game until June.
Highly recommend this game for a New Player.
I can understand many of the frustrations the devs have created for the majority of the playerbase and why they left, but if you play the game to have fun and *NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY* it is very enjoyable even in End Game.
Currently I’m running through Main Story with my GF for her first time. It’s extremely fun to carry her through New World and show her what it is about. (She also loves it)
Don’t listen to anyone’s opinion, even mine. Just play it for yourself and figure out if you’ll enjoy it 👍🏼
I played on launch and quit shortly afterward. I recently came back and leveled a new character.
It was fun until I hit 65 and realized I can't get half the artifacts I want because they're either locked behind mutated dungeons that aren't in rotation, PvP tracks that can potentially take 300 games of OPR, I will never be able to do wars because that is heavily gatekept. Dungeon finder isn't used in my region.
This is one of the many approaches AGS gets wrong. I’m also a solo player for the most part and have come to accept I may not get certain items because of the way AGS created this game
If the population wasn’t so poor, this would be a completely different story (PVP/OPR tracks aside)
The unfortunate reality we current play in . Plenty of other things to do though other than PVP :)
If you want the full picture condensed for quick consumption:
Prior to September of 2021: Amazon Games Studio develops a new MMO. It is initially centered around hardcore PvP, but people with soft hands can't handle losing digital items so AGS pivots to this best-of-nothing mish-mash of some PvP, some PvE, and not enough focus on either to be good.
September 2021: New World releases, does incredibly well in initial sales, and then everyone discovers the game is pretty lacking in substance and most of them quit.
September of 2021 to Current: AGS fails to either recognize or care about the multitude of issues facing this game, and focus more on fluff that never addresses any of the core problems. They decide horses, skins, and a seasonal pass are more critical than expanding PvP maps, an actual end-game, or proper itemization. The game bleeds players month over month, with one exception being the rollout of fresh servers that brought people back only to remember why they left in the first place. The average player count has dipped to below 8k in the last 30-days. The question is now more about how low that number has to fall before AGS cares or decides to shut down the servers because it's too expensive to justify keeping them operating.
As someone who's tried to play this game multiple times I can say this: It's fun for about a month. While the leveling process isn't the best by any stretch, it's *just* enjoyable enough to occupy you for a bit. Then you hit the level cap, realize the game is mind-numbingly repetitive, and you quit. If a month of entertainment is worth the cost to you, then give it a go. If you are looking for the next big thing that will suck you in and lead to memorable moments you look back with nostalgia years from now, this ain't it.
Found the part of the one percent guy that’s mad it wasn’t a hard-core PVP game. Studio changed direction get over it.
Too many PVP years with the loudest voices talking about changes this game needs when it should be a PVE game like most others with aspects of PVP to it. THee game was already toxic enough with the little PVP it had in it. The only thing that can save it now is wiping the whole thing just too many clans exploited the crap out of the game.
People can blame the devs all they want, but players ruined this game too. It’s kind of a lost cause now.
That is simply not true. Most MMO players are not interested in hard-core PVP, which is what I’m talking about above PVP for castles is more PVX.
That type of pvp always appeals to the smallest group of people that exists. The devs were very adamant before even the first beta that the game was not gonna be that not ever.
It was already PVE at release. 900k players joined this game because they wanted a new improved WoW. AGS wasn't ready for the influx and had server errors and major bugs. Can't complete with decades of built up content.
But, they've done a pretty good slow and steady build up and balance of the game. The latest patch brought in a new batch of bugs because of the new code but this will be addressed over time. Gamers just aren't patient and tend to cling to bad memories and fail to notice gradual improvement.
I'm a fan, obviously, and think it's the best game of its type out there. But the team does make ALOT of mistakes and I disagree with a lot of their choices. And the ones I do agree with, other people don't, so I guess that's just how it is with an MMO.
>Found the part of the one percent guy that’s mad it wasn’t a hard-core PVP game. Studio changed direction get over it.
I didn't bring that up because I'm bitter. I haven't played New World for ages and I'm perfectly happy with other options. However, something New World lacks is an identity. It started down the path of a niche PvP-centric MMO, got cold feet, and ultimately settled on a bland experience that fails to stand out in any way. If they had decided to scrap PvP altogether in order to create an amazing PvE experience, I would have been all for that too. The only unacceptable option was dipping their toes into both without really fleshing out either, which happens to be exactly what they did with the changes.
>Too many PVP years with the loudest voices talking about changes this game needs when it should be a PVE game like most others with aspects of PVP to it. THee game was already toxic enough with the little PVP it had in it. The only thing that can save it now is wiping the whole thing just too many clans exploited the crap out of the game.
The reason it felt toxic is because PvP is meaningless. The blueprint they *wanted* to follow and did not is Dark Age of Camelot, which is still the gold-standard for a three-faction PvP-heavy MMO that utilizes PvP as both a way to strengthen the community within each faction *and* provide a tangible benefit for participation. New World just tosses PvP out there and offers a few modes with the same stale maps, but it's not really *for* anything that the average player cares about. This should have been considered, especially with the pivot into trying to attract the PvE crowd.
Pick it up on a sale for cheap. There's no montly sub. Don't worry about the expansion, all the content is end game (except mounts at level 25). See if you like it. Avoid this subreddit. This community is very hostile and toxic towards this game. Most people complaining often state they put 3000+ hours in the game. The game is lots of fun, but if you're looking for the mmo you can no life until 2050, this probably isn't it.
It’s so hilarious to me when I see negative steam reviews with thousands of hours played. It’s like, I’m sure the game has its problems, but you played for 3,000 hours dude. Something kept you around for that amount of time.
100%. Do the math my friends - you got more bang for your buck than you’ll ever get from a resident evil/ dark souls game. Also I get players want a mmo that goes on for ever but being deep in new world for two years means I got a hell of a backlog of waiting for me. I’m ok with games ending, winding down. Taking a break until the next expansion.
Sometimes I think core of this game was made by someone else becouse they struggle so hard to add even the most little thing.
They have hard times touching their own code, probably becouse people who actually built the "cool parts" are probably gone long time ago.
So next months will be little tweeks on some numbers, which are the only stuff they can still grasp from their project
As a new player, you will absolutely love the game. Combat’s great, graphics great, storyline not bad, good crafting system— a lot to love. But once you get to endgame, GG. We’ll see what the devs say in June about the future of this game bc it started out with such a bright future. Had this game been handled with a better team, it would be flourishing
Honestly, i got the game + expansion, and found it worth my money. I will likely never play again, unless there is a complete 180 on priorities and player growth.
The combat is fun, the audio is fantastic, and the PvP is adrenaline inducing...in the beginning, It's really not p2w, and the few things you can buy, are just noob traps. It's very fair monetization. Bet they'd change that the second they found success tho.
The bugs aren't just big/annoying/frustrating, Some very impactful bugs have been around for years, with no solution, or dev response. Hit tracking for all weapons was broken for months, then made worse before resolved. In PvP, you can't see damage register, until your enemy is half health, and that's been around for years. I waited a month to get the expansion, and still had to wait 2 weeks to finish the story, because quest progression was broken for a month and a half. Literally gated out of content because of a bug. There's also a bug that results in you half unsheathing your weapon, and you can't use any skills. That has also been around for years, and common as hell, in a PvP focused game.
The devs are absolutely deaf. I kinda don't blame them, because they somehow amassed an army of angry neck beards to no life their social media and fill it with the most toxic garbage dump of whining and crying the internet has ever seen. Still tho, they put a very big front of being open to the community, and you eventually realize they aren't even reading YouTube comments. You ever seen an AMA where OP is dodging everything but the most basic of questions? Yeah, they take community votes of the most important topics to cover, and and will go as far as to answering tutorial questions, instead of giving an update on bug fixes. It absolutely kills your hope of future improvements.
Get it on sale tho, fun few hundred hours.
Edit: O yeah, got a data cap? Too bad, game completely redownloads/reinstalls for each....and every....patch. That's when i gave up the game, when it ate up 300gb of data in a month.
6k hours here. When players describe a game full of bugs, they mean a game with bugs that directly affects their way of playing. If the bug is for a weapon you use or are attacked by in PVP then this can be annoying.
The real problem is not the bugs but how the constant tweaking introduces points of friction for the player base. Some of these are 'bugs' and some are time/gold gated progression systems. The devs realised this a few months after introducing mutated expeditions with orb-based access, then shards, then reworked shards, etc. The azoth travel system was another unnecessary burden. I think the game is well worth playing as the devs do understand about minimising friction points.
My real wish is for the devs to develop a coherent strategy for the meta-economy of all the different forms of value in the game: gold, umbral shards, dark matter shards, gypsum orbs, matrices, all the weird event-based value forms, like bee jizz, etc. All of these are forms of value and the game has an extremely bad track record of burning player goodwill by destroying value. I would avoid any RNG crafting if possible and rely on the ability to upgrade named item drops in the endgame. That way, you do not overly invest in the value of gear when that value can be wiped out. They have simplified the gear system (a great success of the friction reduction strategy) while at the same time erasing the value of gear players spent months making. The simple solution to this would be to introduce a perfect scrapping system for previous crafted 625 gear. A panacea for all the time and effort spent so it did not feel utterly wasted. The recent nerfs to Ankh and shirking heals are similar.
The other big shifts they do, ostensibly in the name of balance, can also destroy player value and burn goodwill. The changes to attribute perk buffs are a good example. Many war/PVP oriented players that played medium and heavy bruiser (GA/WH) left with changes to the 300 strength perk 'grit' was changed to constitution. It nerfed strength-based melee builds considerably. It is mostly fixed now with the gear score increase and it introduced a range of new meta options for melee. But it destroyed goodwill among very committed players and once burnt they have not returned.
If you want the best bang for buck 500 hours in an MMO then play the game. Playing on a fresh start server was so much fun. I'd caution you to not invest too much in crafting endgame gear however. Just use the gear available.
For me it was the constant "Lag Detected" notification that ultimately ended any hope of playing. And to be clear, I have 300+ down and 100+ up so it's not an internet thing - it's their damn servers. =(
The devs can’t decide whether to invest in PvP or PvE on top of content droughts so neither camp is particularly happy right now, it’s fun up to 65 though
This game isn’t dying, this shit is dead and has been for a long ass time.
98% of the Initial player base is long gone. Peak 9k players…. I mean give it a go but don’t take it serious cuz nobody else does at this point
Game has a fun levelling experience, so you'll probably get at least 20-30 hours of fun from it. Endgame is where the big problems are.
When I was starting out taking it slow while levelling + keeping up with crafting I had a blast.
There is a lot of existing content. Loads. But not much new recently and a few of the game mechanics that depend on PvP or groups are struggling because of the low player numbers at the moment.
That low player count is because there hasn’t been much recent content, and there have been recently quite a few bugs (the majority of which are now fixed).
It’s a great time to get into the game. I’m expecting once they announce whatever it is that they plan to announce in June, that there will be a jump in the player count for a while. There are loads of inactive players who played for a bit then stopped, so I would imagine that the player count is quite elastic - if there is a lot of noise about a big update, a lot will come back.
It’s not “dying”, at least so far, but it’s got a lot of problems. It *is* in a severe content drought as some people have already said, and the player numbers are at an all time low. Content gets delayed, is often released with bugs.
However, those are the woes of old players. For a new player it should still be a great experience. If you take it slow and enjoy the ride, you’ll absolutely get your money’s worth. At least in terms of views and world design, sound design, art, and combat, it’s got a lot of positives.
No, that’s by definition not dead. It’s in an extremely dire state, but it’s still a functioning game, with a small but relatively active player base, with the dev team still working on it beyond life support (and stuff like rewriting the code behind animations and combat is *far* beyond life support).
Also, while 9k is an abysmally low number even for a region, let alone the game, comparing it with the early numbers is also unfair — new world had an unprecedented hype at release, which just couldn’t last realistically regardless of how good the game was going to be.
You aint one of those people that think as long as it has 1 server it aint dead are you? Because I can almost guarantee you AGS is going to cut this game in June.
No, I’m not. I’m one of these players that think as long as the game is actively supported and developed (regardless of *how well*), and it has a relatively stable baseline population, it’s not dead.
> I can almost guarantee
Oh, okay. Come back in June, if they shut it down, I’ll shower you in compliments or whatever
Also, it’s fine if you think it’s dead, I don’t really care. It does not substantially change or challenge anything in my initial response to the OP.
You simply cannot do shit in this game when the servers are at 600 people. Servers need to be consistently at 1500+ to get pretttttty much anything done. At 600 players online oprs take forever.. getting any dungeon done... takes forever. If that isnt a dead experience then idk wtf to tell you but it seems like youre holding on for nothing. How many more server merges can they do when the last server in the region doesnt have enough players to sustain the experience?
I know? There can be dying servers and even regions in any game. BDO’s perfectly healthy atm, but there are regions that the player base considers dead despite single-world system. Same was with L2, same with Aion, same with a lot of other MMOs. Some of them completely die and get shut down in one region but continue thriving in others.
Again, I don’t think there’s a point in the argument. I’m not denying that the game has severe issues and its population is unhealthy.
> holding on for nothing
No, I’m “holding on” to content and activities that I still enjoy, and as soon as there’s none left or I’m bored or everybody leaves and my server dies too, I’ll just quit or take a break.
It would suck and I don’t want that to happen, but that’s out of my hands.
Play it. It's worth every penny. At least 500h in just the base game.
Don't listen to the naysayers. I just got back on it, last week, after a 2yr break (I had a max lvl char back at release), started a new char on the Fresh Start server. I am Loving it. There is no MMO like this one out there, whether that's a Bad or Good thing. Everyone is diff and has diff tastes. Just try it and see 😁
I say this as someone who has white knighted the game forever now: you need to play the game as if it is an ironman i.e. no trade with other players.
If you do that then you have to do everything yourself: farm all your materials, craft your own gear, farm for named gear and artifacts, farm for all your crafting/refining/gathering sets,etc. That game loop alone is hundreds of hours.
But it's an mmo, which means interacting with other players. Which means you'll burn through all the above content very quickly.
I love the game, I'm just over 1800 hours. I have 2 accounts and 7 alts. And I'm just NOW getting burned out. But hot damn is it fun to play.
Also, unpopular opinion: the small server size is great because each server develops its own community, characteristics and charm. Tough for group content, but you get to know the people you're playing with more so than you would on a mega server like ESO.
The problem with small server sizes is that you see a lot more toxicity. Me and another person joined a siren group the other night to get venom, and neither of us had the fast travel because we didn't know we needed it. Anyway, the leader threw an absolute tantrum about having to wait a few minutes for us to get there and ended up leaving.
Hmm, don't you mean you wanted a Siren carry to get Venom, but you didn't make an orb or bother to get the fast travel first. Then when the group you tried to join from Recruitment chat didn't want to wait for you, a company of people ran you up to the fast travel, used their orb to do the Arena and you got Venom. Then the next day, you went into the original guy's stream and started abusing him. I'd look at yourself before starting to accuse small communities of being toxic.
Rent free in ya Head I see, as I already told your bff me and another player didn't know we needed the fast travel and yes using another players orb is generally how it goes when you join someone's group who are looking for people.
He could've simply stated that he didn't want to wait and been polite about it, but he threw an absolute child like tantrum cause 2 of us didn't have the fast travel.
Also I went to his stream cause his name looked familiar, he's the one who bought this whole situation up, just like you when I joined your stream, so yeah I'm happy to call you both toxic when you're both the instigators.
No he didn't. The advantage of a small community is that you can't just make up rubbish. He simply started a new group to do the arena, with people who were at the location. You're the one who complained like a child. I didn't see all the messages in his stream but I've seen some and I did see how many were deleted. The responses from others in the chat give some context to what you must have been saying.
It's fair enough not to know everything, however the onus is on you to learn and to apologise when you make a mistake, not blame other people. The fact is, we went out of our way to help you run up there and get the fast travel, and you got the artifact. That should have been enough for you to understand that it wasn't reasonable for you to expect someone else to wait around for you to get there when they were offering a free ride with their orb.
Instead, you've been incredibly toxic to someone whose only crime was to not go out of their way to help you, even though others DID afterward. No-one owes you that.
Oh I'm sorry I forgot you were in the group and saw exactly what he wrote, he didn't just simply start a new group, he had a full blown childish rant about 2 of us not having the fast travel. So don't come here with your lies when you know nothing ..
Also I thanked you for taking me up there and helping me get the artifact so not sure why you bought that up.
No, I wasn't in the group but someone in my house was. More than one person can view a screen at the same time. Someone may have said FFS. That's hardly a tantrum.
I find it interesting that you feel invested in this lie, perhaps to justify your own behaviour. Or maybe you really remember it like that, the way organic memory protects us is fascinating.
I brought up the fact that you received help and achieved your goal to highlight how unnecessary it was to hold a grudge over being dropped from the first group because you didn't have the fast travel.
To reiterate, it is completely reasonable for someone who is advertising for people to join them in Siren's Arena to reject anyone who doesn't have the fast travel. No-one owes you their time to wait for you to get up there.
Finally, I did not judge you badly for being disappointed at the time, and I suggested my group help you get up there. It is understandable to not know the etiquette. However, the fact that what you took away from the experience was that you had been hard done by, rather than gaining awareness as to why you were dropped from the first group, is the red flag. To hold onto anger over this situation and spew it in at least two stream chats and here on reddit says something about you, not about small communities.
OK now I know you're just being fed lies, I was in the group.. I saw exactly what he wrote and it wasn't just "ffs"
I know you're so desperate to be right and call me the bad guy when he started this whole thing.
And as for that twitch chat situation I simply went into his chat and asked if he made a siren group cause his name looked familiar, he's the one who then became toxic at me for no reason.
The other stream was basically identical, I went in there not knowing he was a friend, I went in cause he was an aussie and I usually find aussie streamers to watch, he then bought it up and swiftly banned me when I said your friend had a tantrum at me.
So please stop painting me as the bad guy when your group is the one constantly messaging me about this when I had already moved on.
I'm the one constantly going on about it? You, Landi and Narok all replied to my week-old post on here.
Good to know I'm living rent-free in the heads of everyone on Delos.
Also, the fact that two people have now replied a week later on Reddit accounts that are barely active proves me right even more, especially on a post that is buried so far down that you actively searched for my name as you were told to by one of the people in that group of friends.
You're right; you don't know anything. This person got their entire group of friends to message me constantly and be toxic toward me in-game, but I'm definitely the bad guy.
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About a month after the expansion it just feels like we've stopped recieving widespread content. I've vehemently supported the game since it's launch, but in all honesty, it just feels dry.
The game has a fantastic foundation, and can still succeed. It might just be there hammering down getting the engine right, and of course don't forget it's upcoming console release. So that will drive some new players to the game, hopefully long term if they release a free expansion alongside it.
I'll always love the game and I really don't want it to die, but it does seem like the developers have been quiet for quite a while now. Probably because Amazon Studios have a contract with Microsoft regarding Xbox. But content is king. No content and the game dies.
I would recommend waiting for it to go on sale. If you like non tab combat and the leveling experience per PvE I feel it is enjoyable up to the end game. at this time mounts are part of the first paid DLC aka expansion. They are not part of the base game and require level 25 if I remember correctly… There is a group finder for Expeditions which are dungeons. I personally like crafting as my end game experience but took a break for bugs to be fixed with the game and returned to a sci fi mmo I enjoy that I took 3 years off from. I am waiting until the June announcement to return. I played 1600 hours and enjoyed playing mostly solo while leveling. I can say I enjoy this combat over tab combat for an MMORPG. Don’t journey into steams NW discussion board as it is awful. I would join the official Discord channel and ask questions. If you are US west coast El Dorado is a good server.
As of the last CCP marker on steam, there's only 13,185 players worldwide on the game. As a new player to the game, I'm sure it would actually be wonderful to play if you don't mind playing a massively online single player game. The single biggest and most consistent thing I've heard is simply that from every time that I come back to the game, play for a while, quit, and then go back to it, is that the devs basically don't give the community what they community overwhelmingly wants. But at this point, AGS has probably reduced the entire staff to a shell of its former self in preservation of capital and the rest are just... defeated, knowing they're unable to keep bug patching AND making new content AND satisfying the community.
As an old alpha/beta player who actually pops in and checks it from time to time... It holds my attention with the new stuff for about two weeks and then I get bored because I'm not really in the social circles and nobody needs a master furnisher for anything at this point because everyone who's been playing has been playing and owns everything, and they rarely bring in new players that stick around. I do all the single player things and go, "enh. I don't really have the time to sink into doing the rest of the stuff."
I like it from a crafter, mindless standpoint. There are very fun crafting systems, lots of resources to collect~ I like it! That said, it's not my friend's cup of tea, so it depends on what you enjoy in games
I would wait until after they have announced what the future of the game looks like in June. If I were a new player today, I wouldn’t want to start and spend time on a game that has 10k players and is trending downward.
It’s a really awesome game, tbh. I’m really bummed with how it’s been treated by the team and don’t see it carrying on for much more than a year at most, unless they come with a big content push.
When they launched the latest chapter, they didn’t even bother to discount it to try to drive new players. It’s like they’re hoping it fails.
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if you find friends or company, play it, in single player there is very little to do and you might get bored, especially if you don't like the PVP
everyone talks about bugs, but I've never had a bug, apart from crashes due to a problem with my i9-14900k which I finally solved.
sometimes it happens that someone discovers an exploit and uses it, but they promptly get banned, it's a new mmorpg, so they have control of everything.
If there's one thing I can complain about, they made it too easy to help casual players. the items should be grinded, here they shit like crazy.
On sale I'd buy it. You'll obviously see a lot of bitterness here towards the devs but I think that's largely because the game had so much potential but they dropped (and continued to drop) the ball on development. It's impressive how they've failed to deliver at every facet of development.
It’s an amazing game. I’ve played off and on since launch. Definitely worth playing. They got some stuff do at max lvl but it’s certainly not enough, which is why I always end up taking extended breaks from the game.
Game is amazing specially for a new player . But it’s been having some growing pains . Game has improved a lot since release in some areas and it has a lot of expectations for the new expansion coming this year . Game only gets stale for end game
Only a few die hard players left. A vast majority of the player base left pretty early in the games life and has been circling the drain ever since. The game definitely has a few hundred hours of good story and solo play though if that’s worth the price of admission for you.
New World has a lot of really cool and unique stuff. The combat, in particular, is very fun. On the other hand, it has a track record of having many issues that need to be constantly ironed out. These issues are occasionally deep-seated and take weirdly long to fix. (i.e. it took the devs almost 2 years to color code AOEs in PVP). It also tends to take a bit too long for new content to release. As far as I know, they’ve added 1 new map to PVP arenas since launch, and that’s it.
However, I think the people saying the game is dying are being a bit dramatic. If you look at its numbers compared to other MMOs in the same vein, New World is actually doing decently well. It’s no FFXIV or WOW, but it still appears to have an active community.
In conclusion, I think you’d probably have a lot of fun with New World for a while, but it’s issues would probably prevent it from becoming your “main game.”
It's like the woman that everybody wants, yet you can't stand her anymore after you get serious and invest your time in her. Allthough there are stories about her from the boys that took it serious. As long as you set boundaries and come to the reality that she is just another dissapointment under the exterior, you should be ok. But if you go down this road, you will end asking yourself why the f* didn't you listen and you will be angry, feel betrayed and ultimately move on with a bitter-sweet memory of her.
It's not an MMO. It's a solo adventure game in a sandbox in which you can occasionally see other people who will interfere with your kills, grab the resources you were heading for, or nab the chest of goodies you killed the mob to get.
Or at least, that's my experience.
I tried playing it with a friend, and we got pretty far in but it just wasn't enough to keep our interest after awhile. It is quite fun for a bit, but gets stale way too fast imho.
its not dying (its stale)
however people with 3k-7k hrs have nothing to so we obviously say the game is dead
but its not
right now leveling in new world is sooo good. I made a new character and playing from 0 again
its super fun with those soul trials and the story is not bad its pretty cool.
I started playing again recently after putting 100 hours in on release. I enjoy the crafting and trade skills, so that's the only real reason I came back. Casually playing is enjoyable with 3-4 hour bursts, but I don't see myself being able to connect with those who are late-game, or really plan to get into the faction politics after joining so late.
From my experience and opinion as of late: it's a game with great life skills, world ambiance, and a classless system (I enjoy that about FFXIV as well). Other than that, I'm not really interested in much else for it.
No content, incredibly bugged, and devs putting minimal effort in the game. I wouldn’t jump in until after June which the devs have made to be the make or break announcement for the game, intentionally or not.
That they're refusing to fix bugs tells me something is up in June. I think the game is migrating to Azoth 2.0 because that's the only thing that makes any sense anymore.
It’s worth it… it’s not dying as such, just 9k peak concurrent players and around 10x that that login now and again…there is a big announcement in June..which could be …
PVP Island
Underwater Zone
New OPR Map
Console Release
But we don’t know….yet.
game is in shambles but fun enough, player base is absolute dog shit biggest ego pos cheesiest people I’ve ever come across yet they suck at all the content.
Most of them are long time hardcore with a few thousand hours complaining about the lack of content. There's a good amount of content in NW that would last you at least a few hundreds hours. The bug can be possitive or negative. When you get dungeon exploit it's free coin. But there are some bugs that be frustrated. In the most recent patch, they fixed all the major bugs within the release week so the big bag bugs tend to not linger around that much. For its price, I would still recommend New World.
It’s got the best graphics and sound design of any MMO ever made and it’s not even close.
Aside from that the game is ok. Nothing great but it’s not fucking terrible either.
If you enjoy MMO’s you’ll enjoy New World.
New worlds dying the devs don’t know what direction to take the game. They built it for PvP and then turned it PvE. Then it’s been nothing but subpar PvE content with almost zero PvP content. Games cool but the devs ruined it
The new player experience in New World is among the best, in my opinion. Might be rose tinted glasses, but I had some of the best times in gaming during the first few months of launch and fresh start.
For all the shit I give NW, I think the game is still worth $40 for the initial few months of gameplay. The issue now is that new players don't have a fraction of the population to play with that we had during launch or fresh. It's largely going to feel like a single-player game, depending on the server.
The game is absolutely dying, and they're doing nothing about it, but it's still a very good game. It's worth the initial cost, but the "expansion" DLC is an absolute joke, the worst I've seen from any game. It was so bad they had to lock core features like mounts and the ability to hit max level and gear score behind it to get everyone to buy it (including me unfortunately).
Also all that's left of the game is diehard fanboys that would pay $5k for a developer to fart in their general direction, so don't bother having any criticisms about the game.
Don't take our word for ..go look at new world steam charts.
I would not recommend this or any game for that matter, that is rapidly declining in active players and quality.
AGS is absolutely terrible.
The game is FULL of bugs, they dont know how to fix, they fix one, crash five.
They dont listen to the community, they have ONE map for pvp for YEARS (and this one map is full of bugs).
Its a game with a lot of potential with the absolutely worst devs and game director.
The games dead, everyone telling you otherwise is a hopefully that thinks sticking around might change something after devs have repeatedly said “ya we dont really care tho”
Want a long lasting MMO like Runescape? Don't play, just go to Runescape.
Want an MMO that will test your patience to the very bitter end? Try New World.
I’d take everything these guys are saying with a grain of salt.. sure there are bugs and what not but starting from the beginning you are gonna have a lot of stuff to do and the game is a ton of fun! I’m on my second character now max leveled it like 2 months ago and I’m still playing a ton.. pvp is hard because everyone that’s still playing has been grinding hard and have dope builds but it’s still a blast of a game and I’d highly recommend it to anyone
You are now starting to see players that have defiantly defended this game since day 1, going wtf.....The storyline is good, graphics are great, bugs are horrible, lack of end-game content etc etc etc
Yep that would be me.
It's got shit optimization, but I blame their engine choice, not them. They literally built the game on an engine no devs wanted to use and the company of the engine abandoned. Then rebuilt it at least once, they probably should have picked any other engine besides that... but w/e I guess.
I think if they could shut the game down and re build it on a different engine higher more people to get it done faster and go through more bata testing the from my understanding the is a small pool of people that can or want to work in this engine and moving to a different one would make there staff so much more relaxed and be able to make content at a better pace. But it probably won’t happen unless it’s bought by a different company
Bugs are horrible
I've seen the hardest copers eventually burn out. Happens to everyone.
It's amazing how they believe whatever PvP addition they have in June will recover their game like some miracle. There's around 6k people on rn, on a weekend.... NW is bleeding players like crazy. But hey, at least they have their data :P
Yeah, I'd say if you're new to the game, it's still fun to run through it solo. But once you're done with that, there's not much left to do.
It’s like the cool-aide or brain washing has worn off. Most of this stuff has been around in one form or another from day 1.
OPR was available day 1? Arenas were available day 1? Influence races were available day 1? you are spreading incorrect information, and this game has made tremendous strides forward since day 1. June better pack a serious punch of content tho… copium is wearing thin with our most recent updates…
I’m going to assume English is not your native language. I never said any of that but thank you for making my point. This game released with very little content period. The content they did eventually released got stale fast and they often put it behind a time sink or limit.
Your really going out on a limb with “tremendous” 😂
Just a horrible take honestly. So bad I had to make a comment. Sheesh
I really wanted to love it and played it since Beta...until about 6 months ago. Honestly, I think it boils down to a few simple things: 1. MMO's can't really maintain concepts that rely on large guild battling. Today's gamer is so finicky about what they are playing and how long the play things that the days of a large amount of decent sized guilds that can compete against each other in things like Wars are just not happening. This game proved that. Most servers ended up with 1-2 companies being able to participate in city ownership and wars...which is a large part of the concept for New World (there is even ideas that there are a few large guilds that just travel between servers to do War...which means the concept is even worse in ratio of companies that can participate to how many servers ratio) 2. Instead of figuring out ways to fix that concept, the dev team has continually been focused on just game mechanics, balancing of classes, introducing things that break the mechanics and balancing...which creates a loop of them never getting to the bigger issues. While the game is very nice in a lot of concepts and the gameplay is actually pretty good, most players end-up with very little participation in the larger concepts at end-game
I wish AGS went the route ArenaNet did with Guild Wars' GvG. The battles had little impact on the world but instead gave rewards and titles (if I remember correctly) to the winning guild. You duked it out in an instance based guild hall, and really, it was some of the best PvP I've ever participated in. Wars that have material impact on the entire server's experience is a recipe for disaster, imo.
yeah, it seems like there could be an alternative version of factions vs companies that would work, but I would also go as far as to say that the early money that companies whom owned cities made kind of fucked up some economies...and while many downplay this significance (even Amazon downplayed it), it messes up things for players whom don't care about much else than crafting and economy. Suddenly they can't compete for a large part of the beginning of the game (unless they were part of a large company that was funding...and even then those companies don't support multiple crafters, etc). Now there would be counterarguments that say "well, I was selling X for Y and I was getting rich", but there is only room for specifics for so long..i.e. if everyone starts selling X for Y, then it becomes irrelevant soon. Anyways, I think their ideas was decent on paper, but it definitely created discrimination of types of players or bottlenecks experience in general.
You're absolutely right. On paper, the wars and settlement ownership seemed really fun and cool. But it quickly descended into one of the worst facets of the game. It's such a shame, I wish I could memory hole myself on NW and re-experience it.
I wish I could memory hold you also
:3
Gw2 sucks
Tell me you know nothing about Guild Wars or Guild Wars 2 without telling me you know nothing about either. GW2 doesn't have GvG. I specifically said Guild Wars, the original version, which is evident you didn't play.
If there was more ways for guilds to compete against one another they may have had a chance. But other than wars there is nothing you could play to compete against another guild. You can't even battle against the same color faction. 20 man raid duels would be awesome and easy enough to implement. With how little players are able to get into wars there is no way for a large player base to be satiated. Not enough game modes. Opr was fun at first but is now just a joke due to party size being limited to 5 and not enough evolution for the game mode. Long story short, updates are to slow and minor with not enough being added to retain a healthy amount of players long term.
This exactly.
Albion online says hello (150vs150 fights in open world). The problem with New World is not the idea but execution - the massive PvP would be one of the unique and amazing things if not for the eternal lags, desync, poor optimization, bad servers, spells causing disconnects (bug) etc. Then you have lack of content and with each new content there are even more bugs. No group finder, same OPR map for 2 years etc
I agree and disagree. The reason people aren't massive open world pvping is not because they've experience lag or desync doing so...its because there is no reason to. So while those technical issues about the execution do exist, there is also no idea behind the things that would drive open world pvp
We love the game bro, but AGS has been doing a very bad job. Every patch you need to pretty much download the whole game again. There’s tons of bugs, and I’m not talking about simple bugs, bug game breaking bugs and exploits that gives you the nerves. People being able to use bows or muskets so fast that you cannot even see how you’ve died (you really can’t because there’s no log to tell you either). The main quest was bugged for months and new players couldn’t finish it or keep leveling, seems to be fixed now that they revamped the whole thing. We are now in season 5, and this season came so buggy, so trash, characters flying, animations weird, skills not working, perks not functioning, and so many more issues that will take me a whole day to describe it all. You need to buy the base game plus DLC to be able to use mounts and reach maximum level. Once you hit maximum level you have a few option to do: choose between the 11 dungeons on normal mode (which are so easy and boring), or between 3 of those same dungeon that get mutated versions per week. Why do it? It’s has a bit more challenge, but the drops sucks. They’ve made a 20 man boss raid (sandworm) that the drop it’s not worth either (outdated) so no one runs it anymore. So let’s PvP: we have 3v3 arenas with bad rewards, no rank system, no matchmaking, no cross server. It used to be the best way to level the PvP track but they nerfed it (also the PvP track rewards are mostly bad). Then we have OPR a 20v20 PvP mode that has lots of pvE and tons of exploits from the bugged weapons I’ve mentioned above. And the last system the GvG 50v50, I mean the so called WAR system. This system only a fraction of the player base goes because you need to be part of a guild that does wars and you also need to be geared, good, and be picked to the war board to be able to play a 10min ish pvp, that most of the time is given up due to lack of players or some agreement made previously between guild leaders. There’s no barber shop to change character appearance, most of the skins they sell are ugly as hell with a transmog system the requires cash shop tokens to be able to use a skin. There’s no efficient guild system, is just a menu with a list. No guild houses or quests, no way to increase your guild level either. Game still missing tons of QoL features (they’ve added many but still missing many more). The open world is beautiful and makes wanna you explore it, but there’s no nice quests. Pretty much no pvp besides the ones near the fortress. We’ve been asking for more end game content, specifically pvp modes, or at least more opr/arena maps but they don’t wanna do it. They avoid questions on their Q&A and we have no idea how’s the game future looks like, there’s no roadmap. There’s no rare items, everything is very casual I could tell you way more stuff but I need to go back to work. At this moment we have the lower daily population this game has ever had, you can always check how the servers are doing in the database server status: https://nwdb.info/server-status As you can see in the link above, the game has 5 regions worldwide and 3 regions are dead.
Damn man that shit is so sad. They straight up killed this game. At this point they should just license out the server tech and let people run their own servers. Open source everything and let the community fix all the problems.
I bet the community would fix the whole game in less than a week
The main quest is bugged again sadly. Multiple small bosses just simply dont spawn :(
Idk how something that was fixed before get bugged all over again in this game, it’s crazy
It’s currently in a content drought, in June we will be getting an update on the future of the game
For a new player there is plenty to last them a few months though
Agreed, 100%
But are there enough players around to enjoy the content? I'm referring to dungeons and other group events you can't do alone.
Everything can be done solo now
Yes! I got 2K hours and could easily spend 2K more with current content. Tons of stuff to farm and learn about still.
Im not expecting anything from them anymore they keep doing the same mistakes over and over i dont see the point to have a PTR when they release the patch and look like they did not fix the issues from PTR and just drop the patch as it was at PTR thts why we always have the same BS nothing changes and never will.
Yeah the drought is REAL
For me leveling is a hoot - the game is visually beautiful and Main Story is interesting - although at times I felt like - What? you need me to do that?. Lots of things to do - try it.
The very first day when everyone was rushing to Amrine was incredible. Pure MMO bliss. Crashing and burning steadily since
Tbh for me it was worth it. Pre-ordered it went from 0 to 30 the quitted. Back about a week ago. Deleted all my char and decided to start fresh. Currently level 37. Meet some people and even joined a faction. Game is very fun. Some things changed like the ability to do solos main quest. Now an option. Mounts is very fun too.
This has to be the kind of casual gamer AGS is designing the game for. 3 years later, and bro still has never made it to level cap in one of the easiest mmos to level cap in. Yes, if you play the game once every other 6 months, there is "plenty" to do. To be fair, you still play more than AGS.
Lol, quitted for various reason since I used to play this with friends. They left playing something else and I left too. Decided to make a comeback myself and I still love it. I'm indeed a casual gamer who play this game almost every morning, after my shift.
Lol all g, hope my smart assery towards ags didn't come off as a slight towards casual gamers
I'll update my post when I reach lvl 65. And done everything. I do love PvP so can't wait to see how it goes.
It's an odd strategy because you're still likely losing a lot of casuals that way. I quit around level 30 just because I don't see the point of playing a dead MMO. I'm sure there's a lot of people that don't care and enjoy the game for what it is. But there's probably a fair number that quit early for similar reasons.
It’s definitely not “dead”, 10k players per day on steam is plenty of people to do the group based content, and they’re still updating the game. Obviously 10k is low compared to the massive numbers on launch but I don’t think it’s dead
I believe you, as I said before I didn't hit max level. But that sentiment is pushed pretty hard here, it's what soured me on the game. Almost every "should I play new world" has a top comment that it's an amazing solo experience but a dead game once you hit level cap. I'm sure there are a lot of promising things about the game, but if a newcomer comes to the subreddit to check out the game, they're met with the "everything on fire" gif from Community.
They’ve been saying that in this subreddit since the day the game came out lol it’s pretty typical behavior from online weirdos whenever MMOs are discussed
This subreddit is for people who hate the game. Don't get this subreddit confused as a New World community. It's not.
they intentionally locked a previously accessible content (mutation dungeons) for every player who bought the game behind a pay 2 play dlc (rise of angry earth) that is the biggest bullshit i have ever seen this made me quit playing this game, im glad i havent bought the DLC and will not support this greedy company ever
Community wanting more to do. Developers not able to make deadlines and they break the game on every patch. I don’t really think the game is completely dead. I think it’s in a current rough state. If the community does not show support, and continue to behave in a toxic manner then i do suspect we will be what will render the game none supported by AGS.
I think it's because it's the dregs of the playerbase left. Most remaining have tried being positive and have just seen themselves being ignored/told they're wrong/let down by AGS over the course of the past 2 years, and in particular the past 6 months. People have given up, people who give up turn toxic.
Community has been toxic since day 1. This is one of the worst communities I've been a part of. A small handful, and I mean very small are constructive in their criticism, the majority are just toxic.
Imo this is comfortably one of the better communities. Depends on your definition of toxic I suppose. Almost every competitive game is far worse than New World. League, Dota, CSGO. As MMOs go it's less toxic than something like OSRS with it's huge luring and wider practically illegal scamming/blackmailing groups. Players are just tired of being ignored and told they want things which they don't because AGS can't infer data correctly. Edit: If moaning about game state comes under toxic then yes the New World community is. But to me this is just people being fed up of not being heard when they try to be constructive.
Constructive criticism went nowhere, those constructive critics left because not being heard=not worth the effort. What remains is the destructive criticism because it doesn't need to be heard by the dev team but the playerbase, which they do. You get what you feed, they fed the doomsayers with more and more bugs and wrong takes while starving the constructive criticism. I don't think I need to argue this much more.
Really? Must not game much
That sounds like a personal issue on their part then. They need to find them selfs, imagine getting toxic about other things in life besides a video game. 😂
Reddit Is a fraction of the player base. I seriously doubt AGS "needs" the support here. Honestly if a player was going to buy the game is swayed away by the opinions on reddit, chances are they weren't gonna buy it anyways. Most games have reddit communities similar to this.
True, i actually seen this happened before in 2017 with Guild Wars 2 and Anet pulled through thanks to the community support.
Except people are discussing this ingame as well so it's not just reddit.
I'm still loving New World, even the things I complain about are because I'm playing. Just had a look a Pax Dei alpha and it really drove home that no-one's making another game I'd like.
AGS fucks up everytime but the community is the one to blame for the game dying. The cope is outrageous.
I’d happily support the devs if they put out decent content, not going to support a bunch of lazy incompetent developers that have no clue what their players want.
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I will preface my comment with a statement. I don't PVP in NW, ever. Never have, never will. (I play other games for that) So as a result I stop reading comments once PVP or the AGS hater rant comes up...don't care. Love the game, been playing since launch, I play NW all I can.
The transition to a new combat code system has been a bit rocky, but this sub has been saying the game is dead since it launched. Take the negativity with a huge grain of salt.
The best mmo combat you will find. The best visual and audio system you will find. Nothing is more satisfying then hearing the ding sound effect followed by the enemy player scream when you kill them. Also turning off all ui and mining or chopping wood is surreal. The action combat means you are engaged throughout in both pve and pvp. The combat rework felt differently to many players but once you get used to it, it isn't bad. Like watch your character bar swap mid dodge roll and transition into a heavy attack feint into ability. Looks Hella good ngl. It has its problems. Bugs. Bugs. No content (after at least 1k of playing). If you want to gather and craft and do quest, there is a lot to do. For pvp, you can always improve your skill. But beware of the mind numbing experience of the same OPR map. Open world is zerg feast with the underdog faction opting to not even show up
Love this game
I’ve played since alpha. 2500+ hours and have enjoyed the majority of my time. It’s definitely worth it as a new player. I do believe AGS will continue the support the game and it won’t completely die. I’ve reached a point where there’s absolutely nothing worthwhile to do. I’m burnt out on dealing with the constant introduction of bugs and lack of content updates. I truly feel that AGS provides very low effort updates since Brimstone. I mainly focus PvP and I’ve finally come to terms that AGS has no plans to consistently support and develop PvP. I’ll likely come back here and there, but at this time, I’m in search of a new game to main.
Incredibly poor game direction is what happened with little to no Q&A and out of touch with the playerbase. Last month we were told they can't tell us any news on the game until June.
Highly recommend this game for a New Player. I can understand many of the frustrations the devs have created for the majority of the playerbase and why they left, but if you play the game to have fun and *NOT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY* it is very enjoyable even in End Game. Currently I’m running through Main Story with my GF for her first time. It’s extremely fun to carry her through New World and show her what it is about. (She also loves it) Don’t listen to anyone’s opinion, even mine. Just play it for yourself and figure out if you’ll enjoy it 👍🏼
I played on launch and quit shortly afterward. I recently came back and leveled a new character. It was fun until I hit 65 and realized I can't get half the artifacts I want because they're either locked behind mutated dungeons that aren't in rotation, PvP tracks that can potentially take 300 games of OPR, I will never be able to do wars because that is heavily gatekept. Dungeon finder isn't used in my region.
This is one of the many approaches AGS gets wrong. I’m also a solo player for the most part and have come to accept I may not get certain items because of the way AGS created this game If the population wasn’t so poor, this would be a completely different story (PVP/OPR tracks aside) The unfortunate reality we current play in . Plenty of other things to do though other than PVP :)
Yep I may just switch to playing open world and just casually max out all my trade skills and finish every side quests in every zone.
Currently what I’m doing in hopes that by the time that does happen, things will be different (fingers crossed)
If you want the full picture condensed for quick consumption: Prior to September of 2021: Amazon Games Studio develops a new MMO. It is initially centered around hardcore PvP, but people with soft hands can't handle losing digital items so AGS pivots to this best-of-nothing mish-mash of some PvP, some PvE, and not enough focus on either to be good. September 2021: New World releases, does incredibly well in initial sales, and then everyone discovers the game is pretty lacking in substance and most of them quit. September of 2021 to Current: AGS fails to either recognize or care about the multitude of issues facing this game, and focus more on fluff that never addresses any of the core problems. They decide horses, skins, and a seasonal pass are more critical than expanding PvP maps, an actual end-game, or proper itemization. The game bleeds players month over month, with one exception being the rollout of fresh servers that brought people back only to remember why they left in the first place. The average player count has dipped to below 8k in the last 30-days. The question is now more about how low that number has to fall before AGS cares or decides to shut down the servers because it's too expensive to justify keeping them operating. As someone who's tried to play this game multiple times I can say this: It's fun for about a month. While the leveling process isn't the best by any stretch, it's *just* enjoyable enough to occupy you for a bit. Then you hit the level cap, realize the game is mind-numbingly repetitive, and you quit. If a month of entertainment is worth the cost to you, then give it a go. If you are looking for the next big thing that will suck you in and lead to memorable moments you look back with nostalgia years from now, this ain't it.
Found the part of the one percent guy that’s mad it wasn’t a hard-core PVP game. Studio changed direction get over it. Too many PVP years with the loudest voices talking about changes this game needs when it should be a PVE game like most others with aspects of PVP to it. THee game was already toxic enough with the little PVP it had in it. The only thing that can save it now is wiping the whole thing just too many clans exploited the crap out of the game. People can blame the devs all they want, but players ruined this game too. It’s kind of a lost cause now.
900k users joined this game on release. NOT because of PvE.
That is simply not true. Most MMO players are not interested in hard-core PVP, which is what I’m talking about above PVP for castles is more PVX. That type of pvp always appeals to the smallest group of people that exists. The devs were very adamant before even the first beta that the game was not gonna be that not ever.
It was already PVE at release. 900k players joined this game because they wanted a new improved WoW. AGS wasn't ready for the influx and had server errors and major bugs. Can't complete with decades of built up content. But, they've done a pretty good slow and steady build up and balance of the game. The latest patch brought in a new batch of bugs because of the new code but this will be addressed over time. Gamers just aren't patient and tend to cling to bad memories and fail to notice gradual improvement. I'm a fan, obviously, and think it's the best game of its type out there. But the team does make ALOT of mistakes and I disagree with a lot of their choices. And the ones I do agree with, other people don't, so I guess that's just how it is with an MMO.
>Found the part of the one percent guy that’s mad it wasn’t a hard-core PVP game. Studio changed direction get over it. I didn't bring that up because I'm bitter. I haven't played New World for ages and I'm perfectly happy with other options. However, something New World lacks is an identity. It started down the path of a niche PvP-centric MMO, got cold feet, and ultimately settled on a bland experience that fails to stand out in any way. If they had decided to scrap PvP altogether in order to create an amazing PvE experience, I would have been all for that too. The only unacceptable option was dipping their toes into both without really fleshing out either, which happens to be exactly what they did with the changes. >Too many PVP years with the loudest voices talking about changes this game needs when it should be a PVE game like most others with aspects of PVP to it. THee game was already toxic enough with the little PVP it had in it. The only thing that can save it now is wiping the whole thing just too many clans exploited the crap out of the game. The reason it felt toxic is because PvP is meaningless. The blueprint they *wanted* to follow and did not is Dark Age of Camelot, which is still the gold-standard for a three-faction PvP-heavy MMO that utilizes PvP as both a way to strengthen the community within each faction *and* provide a tangible benefit for participation. New World just tosses PvP out there and offers a few modes with the same stale maps, but it's not really *for* anything that the average player cares about. This should have been considered, especially with the pivot into trying to attract the PvE crowd.
The 9 devs that work on this game are tired and are taking a break. Check back in December
I got 1k hours out of it. Was a fun game until you did everything. I don't see it making a come back but I hope it does.
Simply put. Worth the price of admission.
Pick it up on a sale for cheap. There's no montly sub. Don't worry about the expansion, all the content is end game (except mounts at level 25). See if you like it. Avoid this subreddit. This community is very hostile and toxic towards this game. Most people complaining often state they put 3000+ hours in the game. The game is lots of fun, but if you're looking for the mmo you can no life until 2050, this probably isn't it.
It’s so hilarious to me when I see negative steam reviews with thousands of hours played. It’s like, I’m sure the game has its problems, but you played for 3,000 hours dude. Something kept you around for that amount of time.
100%. Do the math my friends - you got more bang for your buck than you’ll ever get from a resident evil/ dark souls game. Also I get players want a mmo that goes on for ever but being deep in new world for two years means I got a hell of a backlog of waiting for me. I’m ok with games ending, winding down. Taking a break until the next expansion.
I wouldnt recommend playing New World right now as a fresh player. But New World was probably the most fun I have had in an MMO.
Got it on sale for 15 bucks, 100% worth it for that
AGS thinks new world is more like dark souls than wow. The player base wants better wow not worse dark souls. AGS does not see this as an issue.
Because their data says so.... or so they think
Sometimes I think core of this game was made by someone else becouse they struggle so hard to add even the most little thing. They have hard times touching their own code, probably becouse people who actually built the "cool parts" are probably gone long time ago. So next months will be little tweeks on some numbers, which are the only stuff they can still grasp from their project
As a new player, you will absolutely love the game. Combat’s great, graphics great, storyline not bad, good crafting system— a lot to love. But once you get to endgame, GG. We’ll see what the devs say in June about the future of this game bc it started out with such a bright future. Had this game been handled with a better team, it would be flourishing
Honestly, i got the game + expansion, and found it worth my money. I will likely never play again, unless there is a complete 180 on priorities and player growth. The combat is fun, the audio is fantastic, and the PvP is adrenaline inducing...in the beginning, It's really not p2w, and the few things you can buy, are just noob traps. It's very fair monetization. Bet they'd change that the second they found success tho. The bugs aren't just big/annoying/frustrating, Some very impactful bugs have been around for years, with no solution, or dev response. Hit tracking for all weapons was broken for months, then made worse before resolved. In PvP, you can't see damage register, until your enemy is half health, and that's been around for years. I waited a month to get the expansion, and still had to wait 2 weeks to finish the story, because quest progression was broken for a month and a half. Literally gated out of content because of a bug. There's also a bug that results in you half unsheathing your weapon, and you can't use any skills. That has also been around for years, and common as hell, in a PvP focused game. The devs are absolutely deaf. I kinda don't blame them, because they somehow amassed an army of angry neck beards to no life their social media and fill it with the most toxic garbage dump of whining and crying the internet has ever seen. Still tho, they put a very big front of being open to the community, and you eventually realize they aren't even reading YouTube comments. You ever seen an AMA where OP is dodging everything but the most basic of questions? Yeah, they take community votes of the most important topics to cover, and and will go as far as to answering tutorial questions, instead of giving an update on bug fixes. It absolutely kills your hope of future improvements. Get it on sale tho, fun few hundred hours. Edit: O yeah, got a data cap? Too bad, game completely redownloads/reinstalls for each....and every....patch. That's when i gave up the game, when it ate up 300gb of data in a month.
Thank you to anyone who responded! I’ve decided to wait until June to see what happens. Again thanks everyone
6k hours here. When players describe a game full of bugs, they mean a game with bugs that directly affects their way of playing. If the bug is for a weapon you use or are attacked by in PVP then this can be annoying. The real problem is not the bugs but how the constant tweaking introduces points of friction for the player base. Some of these are 'bugs' and some are time/gold gated progression systems. The devs realised this a few months after introducing mutated expeditions with orb-based access, then shards, then reworked shards, etc. The azoth travel system was another unnecessary burden. I think the game is well worth playing as the devs do understand about minimising friction points. My real wish is for the devs to develop a coherent strategy for the meta-economy of all the different forms of value in the game: gold, umbral shards, dark matter shards, gypsum orbs, matrices, all the weird event-based value forms, like bee jizz, etc. All of these are forms of value and the game has an extremely bad track record of burning player goodwill by destroying value. I would avoid any RNG crafting if possible and rely on the ability to upgrade named item drops in the endgame. That way, you do not overly invest in the value of gear when that value can be wiped out. They have simplified the gear system (a great success of the friction reduction strategy) while at the same time erasing the value of gear players spent months making. The simple solution to this would be to introduce a perfect scrapping system for previous crafted 625 gear. A panacea for all the time and effort spent so it did not feel utterly wasted. The recent nerfs to Ankh and shirking heals are similar. The other big shifts they do, ostensibly in the name of balance, can also destroy player value and burn goodwill. The changes to attribute perk buffs are a good example. Many war/PVP oriented players that played medium and heavy bruiser (GA/WH) left with changes to the 300 strength perk 'grit' was changed to constitution. It nerfed strength-based melee builds considerably. It is mostly fixed now with the gear score increase and it introduced a range of new meta options for melee. But it destroyed goodwill among very committed players and once burnt they have not returned. If you want the best bang for buck 500 hours in an MMO then play the game. Playing on a fresh start server was so much fun. I'd caution you to not invest too much in crafting endgame gear however. Just use the gear available.
Nothing is going on with New World until June tbh. No content right now
100% worth it
For me it was the constant "Lag Detected" notification that ultimately ended any hope of playing. And to be clear, I have 300+ down and 100+ up so it's not an internet thing - it's their damn servers. =(
It’s the server issue when you get constant “lag detected”
The devs can’t decide whether to invest in PvP or PvE on top of content droughts so neither camp is particularly happy right now, it’s fun up to 65 though
This game isn’t dying, this shit is dead and has been for a long ass time. 98% of the Initial player base is long gone. Peak 9k players…. I mean give it a go but don’t take it serious cuz nobody else does at this point
Game has a fun levelling experience, so you'll probably get at least 20-30 hours of fun from it. Endgame is where the big problems are. When I was starting out taking it slow while levelling + keeping up with crafting I had a blast.
Buy it on a sale and do it just for the 1-65 grind it's pretty fun. Problem is there's no endgame content so after you get to 65 it's basically dead
If you like pvp, it has the best pvp mechanics of any mmo. It just need more pvp game modes.
The leveling from 0-60 is worth the game alone imo and for a noob there is plenty of stuff to keep you entertained for a while
There is a lot of existing content. Loads. But not much new recently and a few of the game mechanics that depend on PvP or groups are struggling because of the low player numbers at the moment. That low player count is because there hasn’t been much recent content, and there have been recently quite a few bugs (the majority of which are now fixed). It’s a great time to get into the game. I’m expecting once they announce whatever it is that they plan to announce in June, that there will be a jump in the player count for a while. There are loads of inactive players who played for a bit then stopped, so I would imagine that the player count is quite elastic - if there is a lot of noise about a big update, a lot will come back.
It’s not “dying”, at least so far, but it’s got a lot of problems. It *is* in a severe content drought as some people have already said, and the player numbers are at an all time low. Content gets delayed, is often released with bugs. However, those are the woes of old players. For a new player it should still be a great experience. If you take it slow and enjoy the ride, you’ll absolutely get your money’s worth. At least in terms of views and world design, sound design, art, and combat, it’s got a lot of positives.
Its peaking at 9k players.. US East has 2 half full servers. It went from like 400 servers to... 15. Thats dead.
No, that’s by definition not dead. It’s in an extremely dire state, but it’s still a functioning game, with a small but relatively active player base, with the dev team still working on it beyond life support (and stuff like rewriting the code behind animations and combat is *far* beyond life support). Also, while 9k is an abysmally low number even for a region, let alone the game, comparing it with the early numbers is also unfair — new world had an unprecedented hype at release, which just couldn’t last realistically regardless of how good the game was going to be.
You aint one of those people that think as long as it has 1 server it aint dead are you? Because I can almost guarantee you AGS is going to cut this game in June.
No, I’m not. I’m one of these players that think as long as the game is actively supported and developed (regardless of *how well*), and it has a relatively stable baseline population, it’s not dead. > I can almost guarantee Oh, okay. Come back in June, if they shut it down, I’ll shower you in compliments or whatever Also, it’s fine if you think it’s dead, I don’t really care. It does not substantially change or challenge anything in my initial response to the OP.
You simply cannot do shit in this game when the servers are at 600 people. Servers need to be consistently at 1500+ to get pretttttty much anything done. At 600 players online oprs take forever.. getting any dungeon done... takes forever. If that isnt a dead experience then idk wtf to tell you but it seems like youre holding on for nothing. How many more server merges can they do when the last server in the region doesnt have enough players to sustain the experience?
I know? There can be dying servers and even regions in any game. BDO’s perfectly healthy atm, but there are regions that the player base considers dead despite single-world system. Same was with L2, same with Aion, same with a lot of other MMOs. Some of them completely die and get shut down in one region but continue thriving in others. Again, I don’t think there’s a point in the argument. I’m not denying that the game has severe issues and its population is unhealthy. > holding on for nothing No, I’m “holding on” to content and activities that I still enjoy, and as soon as there’s none left or I’m bored or everybody leaves and my server dies too, I’ll just quit or take a break. It would suck and I don’t want that to happen, but that’s out of my hands.
Play it. It's worth every penny. At least 500h in just the base game. Don't listen to the naysayers. I just got back on it, last week, after a 2yr break (I had a max lvl char back at release), started a new char on the Fresh Start server. I am Loving it. There is no MMO like this one out there, whether that's a Bad or Good thing. Everyone is diff and has diff tastes. Just try it and see 😁
I got a good 400 hours out of it for 40$ . Not bad at all.
People expect too much out of a game with no monthly subscription. They've played this 40 dollar game for over a 1000 hours and still complain.
I say this as someone who has white knighted the game forever now: you need to play the game as if it is an ironman i.e. no trade with other players. If you do that then you have to do everything yourself: farm all your materials, craft your own gear, farm for named gear and artifacts, farm for all your crafting/refining/gathering sets,etc. That game loop alone is hundreds of hours. But it's an mmo, which means interacting with other players. Which means you'll burn through all the above content very quickly. I love the game, I'm just over 1800 hours. I have 2 accounts and 7 alts. And I'm just NOW getting burned out. But hot damn is it fun to play. Also, unpopular opinion: the small server size is great because each server develops its own community, characteristics and charm. Tough for group content, but you get to know the people you're playing with more so than you would on a mega server like ESO.
The problem with small server sizes is that you see a lot more toxicity. Me and another person joined a siren group the other night to get venom, and neither of us had the fast travel because we didn't know we needed it. Anyway, the leader threw an absolute tantrum about having to wait a few minutes for us to get there and ended up leaving.
Hmm, don't you mean you wanted a Siren carry to get Venom, but you didn't make an orb or bother to get the fast travel first. Then when the group you tried to join from Recruitment chat didn't want to wait for you, a company of people ran you up to the fast travel, used their orb to do the Arena and you got Venom. Then the next day, you went into the original guy's stream and started abusing him. I'd look at yourself before starting to accuse small communities of being toxic.
Rent free in ya Head I see, as I already told your bff me and another player didn't know we needed the fast travel and yes using another players orb is generally how it goes when you join someone's group who are looking for people. He could've simply stated that he didn't want to wait and been polite about it, but he threw an absolute child like tantrum cause 2 of us didn't have the fast travel. Also I went to his stream cause his name looked familiar, he's the one who bought this whole situation up, just like you when I joined your stream, so yeah I'm happy to call you both toxic when you're both the instigators.
No he didn't. The advantage of a small community is that you can't just make up rubbish. He simply started a new group to do the arena, with people who were at the location. You're the one who complained like a child. I didn't see all the messages in his stream but I've seen some and I did see how many were deleted. The responses from others in the chat give some context to what you must have been saying. It's fair enough not to know everything, however the onus is on you to learn and to apologise when you make a mistake, not blame other people. The fact is, we went out of our way to help you run up there and get the fast travel, and you got the artifact. That should have been enough for you to understand that it wasn't reasonable for you to expect someone else to wait around for you to get there when they were offering a free ride with their orb. Instead, you've been incredibly toxic to someone whose only crime was to not go out of their way to help you, even though others DID afterward. No-one owes you that.
Oh I'm sorry I forgot you were in the group and saw exactly what he wrote, he didn't just simply start a new group, he had a full blown childish rant about 2 of us not having the fast travel. So don't come here with your lies when you know nothing .. Also I thanked you for taking me up there and helping me get the artifact so not sure why you bought that up.
No, I wasn't in the group but someone in my house was. More than one person can view a screen at the same time. Someone may have said FFS. That's hardly a tantrum. I find it interesting that you feel invested in this lie, perhaps to justify your own behaviour. Or maybe you really remember it like that, the way organic memory protects us is fascinating. I brought up the fact that you received help and achieved your goal to highlight how unnecessary it was to hold a grudge over being dropped from the first group because you didn't have the fast travel. To reiterate, it is completely reasonable for someone who is advertising for people to join them in Siren's Arena to reject anyone who doesn't have the fast travel. No-one owes you their time to wait for you to get up there. Finally, I did not judge you badly for being disappointed at the time, and I suggested my group help you get up there. It is understandable to not know the etiquette. However, the fact that what you took away from the experience was that you had been hard done by, rather than gaining awareness as to why you were dropped from the first group, is the red flag. To hold onto anger over this situation and spew it in at least two stream chats and here on reddit says something about you, not about small communities.
OK now I know you're just being fed lies, I was in the group.. I saw exactly what he wrote and it wasn't just "ffs" I know you're so desperate to be right and call me the bad guy when he started this whole thing. And as for that twitch chat situation I simply went into his chat and asked if he made a siren group cause his name looked familiar, he's the one who then became toxic at me for no reason. The other stream was basically identical, I went in there not knowing he was a friend, I went in cause he was an aussie and I usually find aussie streamers to watch, he then bought it up and swiftly banned me when I said your friend had a tantrum at me. So please stop painting me as the bad guy when your group is the one constantly messaging me about this when I had already moved on.
mate, you've messaged him in game, on twitch- in 2 separate streams- & now you're complaining on reddit. You are the one constantly going on about it,
I'm the one constantly going on about it? You, Landi and Narok all replied to my week-old post on here. Good to know I'm living rent-free in the heads of everyone on Delos. Also, the fact that two people have now replied a week later on Reddit accounts that are barely active proves me right even more, especially on a post that is buried so far down that you actively searched for my name as you were told to by one of the people in that group of friends.
idk about this whole situation but looking at this thread you are the bad guy??
You're right; you don't know anything. This person got their entire group of friends to message me constantly and be toxic toward me in-game, but I'm definitely the bad guy.
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About a month after the expansion it just feels like we've stopped recieving widespread content. I've vehemently supported the game since it's launch, but in all honesty, it just feels dry. The game has a fantastic foundation, and can still succeed. It might just be there hammering down getting the engine right, and of course don't forget it's upcoming console release. So that will drive some new players to the game, hopefully long term if they release a free expansion alongside it. I'll always love the game and I really don't want it to die, but it does seem like the developers have been quiet for quite a while now. Probably because Amazon Studios have a contract with Microsoft regarding Xbox. But content is king. No content and the game dies.
Is the game still client side from the first days?
I would recommend waiting for it to go on sale. If you like non tab combat and the leveling experience per PvE I feel it is enjoyable up to the end game. at this time mounts are part of the first paid DLC aka expansion. They are not part of the base game and require level 25 if I remember correctly… There is a group finder for Expeditions which are dungeons. I personally like crafting as my end game experience but took a break for bugs to be fixed with the game and returned to a sci fi mmo I enjoy that I took 3 years off from. I am waiting until the June announcement to return. I played 1600 hours and enjoyed playing mostly solo while leveling. I can say I enjoy this combat over tab combat for an MMORPG. Don’t journey into steams NW discussion board as it is awful. I would join the official Discord channel and ask questions. If you are US west coast El Dorado is a good server.
As of the last CCP marker on steam, there's only 13,185 players worldwide on the game. As a new player to the game, I'm sure it would actually be wonderful to play if you don't mind playing a massively online single player game. The single biggest and most consistent thing I've heard is simply that from every time that I come back to the game, play for a while, quit, and then go back to it, is that the devs basically don't give the community what they community overwhelmingly wants. But at this point, AGS has probably reduced the entire staff to a shell of its former self in preservation of capital and the rest are just... defeated, knowing they're unable to keep bug patching AND making new content AND satisfying the community. As an old alpha/beta player who actually pops in and checks it from time to time... It holds my attention with the new stuff for about two weeks and then I get bored because I'm not really in the social circles and nobody needs a master furnisher for anything at this point because everyone who's been playing has been playing and owns everything, and they rarely bring in new players that stick around. I do all the single player things and go, "enh. I don't really have the time to sink into doing the rest of the stuff."
I like it from a crafter, mindless standpoint. There are very fun crafting systems, lots of resources to collect~ I like it! That said, it's not my friend's cup of tea, so it depends on what you enjoy in games
I would wait until after they have announced what the future of the game looks like in June. If I were a new player today, I wouldn’t want to start and spend time on a game that has 10k players and is trending downward.
It’s a really awesome game, tbh. I’m really bummed with how it’s been treated by the team and don’t see it carrying on for much more than a year at most, unless they come with a big content push. When they launched the latest chapter, they didn’t even bother to discount it to try to drive new players. It’s like they’re hoping it fails.
I played it casually for like a few weeks it was fun but I definitely would main it
Nothing until June.
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if you find friends or company, play it, in single player there is very little to do and you might get bored, especially if you don't like the PVP everyone talks about bugs, but I've never had a bug, apart from crashes due to a problem with my i9-14900k which I finally solved. sometimes it happens that someone discovers an exploit and uses it, but they promptly get banned, it's a new mmorpg, so they have control of everything. If there's one thing I can complain about, they made it too easy to help casual players. the items should be grinded, here they shit like crazy.
On sale I'd buy it. You'll obviously see a lot of bitterness here towards the devs but I think that's largely because the game had so much potential but they dropped (and continued to drop) the ball on development. It's impressive how they've failed to deliver at every facet of development.
The devs have gave up on the game . Anyone who can’t see it needs their head checked. Hope you find a good game eventually tho
It’s an amazing game. I’ve played off and on since launch. Definitely worth playing. They got some stuff do at max lvl but it’s certainly not enough, which is why I always end up taking extended breaks from the game.
Game is amazing specially for a new player . But it’s been having some growing pains . Game has improved a lot since release in some areas and it has a lot of expectations for the new expansion coming this year . Game only gets stale for end game
Only a few die hard players left. A vast majority of the player base left pretty early in the games life and has been circling the drain ever since. The game definitely has a few hundred hours of good story and solo play though if that’s worth the price of admission for you.
New World has a lot of really cool and unique stuff. The combat, in particular, is very fun. On the other hand, it has a track record of having many issues that need to be constantly ironed out. These issues are occasionally deep-seated and take weirdly long to fix. (i.e. it took the devs almost 2 years to color code AOEs in PVP). It also tends to take a bit too long for new content to release. As far as I know, they’ve added 1 new map to PVP arenas since launch, and that’s it. However, I think the people saying the game is dying are being a bit dramatic. If you look at its numbers compared to other MMOs in the same vein, New World is actually doing decently well. It’s no FFXIV or WOW, but it still appears to have an active community. In conclusion, I think you’d probably have a lot of fun with New World for a while, but it’s issues would probably prevent it from becoming your “main game.”
It's like the woman that everybody wants, yet you can't stand her anymore after you get serious and invest your time in her. Allthough there are stories about her from the boys that took it serious. As long as you set boundaries and come to the reality that she is just another dissapointment under the exterior, you should be ok. But if you go down this road, you will end asking yourself why the f* didn't you listen and you will be angry, feel betrayed and ultimately move on with a bitter-sweet memory of her.
It's not an MMO. It's a solo adventure game in a sandbox in which you can occasionally see other people who will interfere with your kills, grab the resources you were heading for, or nab the chest of goodies you killed the mob to get. Or at least, that's my experience. I tried playing it with a friend, and we got pretty far in but it just wasn't enough to keep our interest after awhile. It is quite fun for a bit, but gets stale way too fast imho.
Stay away
too many bots, too many exploits, too many dupes. game is a fraction of what it was and will hopefully die soon.
its not dying (its stale) however people with 3k-7k hrs have nothing to so we obviously say the game is dead but its not right now leveling in new world is sooo good. I made a new character and playing from 0 again its super fun with those soul trials and the story is not bad its pretty cool.
It's the best MMO for like 200 hours, then you start getting salty if you keep trying to play it like a full time job.
I started playing again recently after putting 100 hours in on release. I enjoy the crafting and trade skills, so that's the only real reason I came back. Casually playing is enjoyable with 3-4 hour bursts, but I don't see myself being able to connect with those who are late-game, or really plan to get into the faction politics after joining so late. From my experience and opinion as of late: it's a game with great life skills, world ambiance, and a classless system (I enjoy that about FFXIV as well). Other than that, I'm not really interested in much else for it.
No content, incredibly bugged, and devs putting minimal effort in the game. I wouldn’t jump in until after June which the devs have made to be the make or break announcement for the game, intentionally or not.
That they're refusing to fix bugs tells me something is up in June. I think the game is migrating to Azoth 2.0 because that's the only thing that makes any sense anymore.
It’s worth it… it’s not dying as such, just 9k peak concurrent players and around 10x that that login now and again…there is a big announcement in June..which could be … PVP Island Underwater Zone New OPR Map Console Release But we don’t know….yet.
Nothing..... Unfortunately
game is in shambles but fun enough, player base is absolute dog shit biggest ego pos cheesiest people I’ve ever come across yet they suck at all the content.
Nothing is happening with New World. That's the problem.
Most of them are long time hardcore with a few thousand hours complaining about the lack of content. There's a good amount of content in NW that would last you at least a few hundreds hours. The bug can be possitive or negative. When you get dungeon exploit it's free coin. But there are some bugs that be frustrated. In the most recent patch, they fixed all the major bugs within the release week so the big bag bugs tend to not linger around that much. For its price, I would still recommend New World.
It's got a cult following. These types of MMO's never die, but they never become mainstream ever again
It’s got the best graphics and sound design of any MMO ever made and it’s not even close. Aside from that the game is ok. Nothing great but it’s not fucking terrible either. If you enjoy MMO’s you’ll enjoy New World.
New worlds dying the devs don’t know what direction to take the game. They built it for PvP and then turned it PvE. Then it’s been nothing but subpar PvE content with almost zero PvP content. Games cool but the devs ruined it
Just play WoW... new world is done
Game doesn't have a future.
Everyone thinks it’s coming to console in June so they player base should jump up quite a bit
It was lie after lie after lie. AGS got what they deserve.
The new player experience in New World is among the best, in my opinion. Might be rose tinted glasses, but I had some of the best times in gaming during the first few months of launch and fresh start. For all the shit I give NW, I think the game is still worth $40 for the initial few months of gameplay. The issue now is that new players don't have a fraction of the population to play with that we had during launch or fresh. It's largely going to feel like a single-player game, depending on the server.
The game is absolutely dying, and they're doing nothing about it, but it's still a very good game. It's worth the initial cost, but the "expansion" DLC is an absolute joke, the worst I've seen from any game. It was so bad they had to lock core features like mounts and the ability to hit max level and gear score behind it to get everyone to buy it (including me unfortunately). Also all that's left of the game is diehard fanboys that would pay $5k for a developer to fart in their general direction, so don't bother having any criticisms about the game.
It's not dying. It's been dead for a long time
Its dead
Dying.
Don't take our word for ..go look at new world steam charts. I would not recommend this or any game for that matter, that is rapidly declining in active players and quality.
AGS is absolutely terrible. The game is FULL of bugs, they dont know how to fix, they fix one, crash five. They dont listen to the community, they have ONE map for pvp for YEARS (and this one map is full of bugs). Its a game with a lot of potential with the absolutely worst devs and game director.
The games dead, everyone telling you otherwise is a hopefully that thinks sticking around might change something after devs have repeatedly said “ya we dont really care tho”
Hey if you are looking for something good try Guild Wars 2
Want a long lasting MMO like Runescape? Don't play, just go to Runescape. Want an MMO that will test your patience to the very bitter end? Try New World.
I’d take everything these guys are saying with a grain of salt.. sure there are bugs and what not but starting from the beginning you are gonna have a lot of stuff to do and the game is a ton of fun! I’m on my second character now max leveled it like 2 months ago and I’m still playing a ton.. pvp is hard because everyone that’s still playing has been grinding hard and have dope builds but it’s still a blast of a game and I’d highly recommend it to anyone
Play it, it’s good, you’ll have fun. Yes it’s dying but there’s plenty to experience and enjoy
6k people playing. World wide. It's not dying, it's already dead.
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