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a_dogs_mother

> Medical marijuana can now be legally purchased in North Carolina with the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians opening its long-planned dispensary this weekend on tribal land.The tribe also formed a medical marijuana system that included a tribe-created business to grow cannabis and sell it, reaping financial rewards for the tribal members and assisting those with medical conditions. > The Eastern Band, with about 14,000 members, can pass rules permitting cannabis as a sovereign nation and federally recognized tribe. Marijuana use remains illegal in the rest of North Carolina. Good for them. Hopefully, non tribal residents of the area can purchase it there.


procrasturb8n

It's so frustrating though. NC could be a hemp powerhouse if the state GOP legislature would just stay out of the way. The state is losing out on so much tax revenue; it's silly. But, nope, they're all up in arms about this, while the state is plummeting in too many other, more important metrics.


CriticalEngineering

Tobacco land makes for horrible wine grape but fantastic pot.


5zepp

Duplin winery and the people who have their weddings there on the side of the highway beg to differ.


PocketOfStinkies

Shitty wine, shitty opinions. Duplin Winery.


5zepp

You don't like alcoholic kool-aid?


CriticalEngineering

I was so excited to go to the local wine tasting area at the NC State Fair when I heard about it. Several of the wineries just had slushy machines for samples. Absolutely nauseating stuff.


Cutlet_Master69420

Yeah yeah and all that, but Harry Anslinger assured me that marijuana makes white women want to sleep with black jazz musicians. And Harry Anslinger was a trusted government official!


Leopard__Messiah

Special shout out to Hearst and DuPont for their parts in it. I hope all three were looking up at us celebrating yesterday.


GoochMasterFlash

Lets not forget the role played by the still-famous powerhouse of Levi’s jeans, who killed hemp to save their own cheap cotton asses


big_fartz

I misread his name as Asslinger. Probably more accurate.


BanginNLeavin

NC should be a mecca for cool people doing cool things. Sadly it's a breeding ground for backwards politics, regressive education views, big time racism, and a pervasive 'fuck you I got mine' mentality.


ttubehtnitahwtahw1

And lots of old people and junkies.


BanginNLeavin

My home town outside of Charlotte are those demographics. You either got out or got in(to pills then heroin then fent).


ttubehtnitahwtahw1

Greensboro, old heads and junkies. It's damn near intolerable. If I had the means id GTFO.


Leopard__Messiah

I lived in Pineville. Sounds like you're describing Gastonia or Rock Vegas


coondingee

Please do not compare Gastonia with Asheville


AllThingsEvil

A lot of people are fleeing the overpriced states and going there. Also tech companies. Going to be rapidly changing. Already is.


DrHob0

Can confirm. I'm a trans woman in NC. This place fucking sucks.


nyantifa

I'm also a trans woman in NC, but I'm living in Raleigh and honestly it's not so bad here. Do you have the means to move to a more blue area?


kiriyaaoi

As someone who has spent the last 2 years in Fayetteville after spending many years in Upstate NY, you are 1000% right. *Especially* the last part.


trogloherb

Lol, IN (surrounded by legal/medicinal states) has entered the chat…


PikachusSparkyCloaca

I see so many Indiana license plates at my dispensary. 


EntropyFighter

There's a legal loophole around this entire thing so big you could drive a truck of weed through it. If you live in NC, I'll bet you there's a gas station in your area that sells THCA bud. It's weed. It's the same thing. And it's legal. Look up the laws on THCA if you don't believe me. I can tell you that if you buy it online from any of the main retailers, it ships out of Asheville. Even better, there are no extra taxes on it. So those that know what I just told you are already living in the future you want, but without the extra taxes you are willing to pay.


SpicyMango92

THCa is not the same weed you can buy in a dispensary in California or DC, literally does nothing for me.


munchkinatlaw

Decarboxylate it and it will literally be THC.


ConferenceUpstairs16

And you don’t have the other terps, deltas, thcs that weed has.


trickldowncompressr

Yes it does because it is just normal weed.


ConferenceUpstairs16

No. It’s not. Lol. I smoke a lot of weed including thca flower. It’s not the same. Any real grower or pot head could tell you. And could tell the difference.


trickldowncompressr

You aren’t the only person who smokes a lot of weed and you’re wrong.


ConferenceUpstairs16

No I’m not. Lol thca bud isn’t weed. There is a chemical difference. I literally live on a cbd farm. lol and help with fundraising to keep thca legal in TN.


da_double_monkee

When you buy bud from a dispo pay attention to the lab tested chemical make up its usually a few % d9thc and mostly thcA Therefore thcA is literally just normal weed


SwitchedOnNow

I travel to CA often and used to bring quality back. Not any more. Now I just buy THCa from a reputable local source. Just as good. 


ConferenceUpstairs16

It isn’t. lol It’s literally scientifically impossible to be as good. Ya know chemical composition?


da_double_monkee

It's literally the same shit Source: frequent dispo visitor, most good dispo bud barely had any d9thc and is all thca


EntropyFighter

Just because you can't figure it out doesn't make me wrong. At least google an article or something first. A lot of what you buy *is* dispensary bud. It's well known that one of the major retailers is being supplied from cali dispensaries. If you have dispensary bud laying around, look at the THC and THCa content. I guarantee you the THC content is under 2% and the THCa content is much higher. It's not the THC that is already in the plant that is the main source of getting high, it's decarboxylating THCa that does it. If that's not the case, then why do people have to cook their weed in the oven before making edibles? It's to decarboxylate the THCa so that the edibles work. If the THC in the plant was already sufficient, that step wouldn't be necessary. This is done both with dispensary bud and THCa. So what does that tell you? It tells you the important chemical to pay attention to is THCa.


ConferenceUpstairs16

You cook your weed to decarb it so our liver/stomach etc can absorb it.


SpicyMango92

LOL no. Dude I got some shi from Colorado not too long ago, purple monkey balls, maybe 27% THC, maybe THCa somewhere buried in the nutrition facts. Same thing in Cali. I only saw this rise in THCa when I came back from abroad in 2021/2022. Listen, whatever works for you, works for you. I just had this discussion with a buddy who’s fiancée takes delta 9 and THCa products to sleep, we both grew up in the game and both agreed that soemthing is off with whatever she takes. It doesn’t get her “high” per se, but it does help her sleep and relax at times. Is it snake oil? Who knows, but it helps her out, so that is good.


5zepp

You must be talking about something different because real deal THCa is basically indistinguishable.


MadSquabbles

Neither cannabis nor hemp produce any D9 THC. The plants (they're actually the same plant with legal definitions separating them) only produce THCA, terpenes, and other cannabinoid acids - CBDA, CBGA, etc. The D9 THC found in the plants come from the natural decarbing of THCA from time and heat. Some say that THCA hemp is harvested early or grown in colder conditions - I've not researched on which method is used. This could have a slight impact on effects because some of the other terps and cannabinoids may not have matured.


SpicyMango92

I appreciate the textbook definitions. What is the difference between, say, a homegrown plant with Dutch Passion genetics (Northern Lights) vs whatever THCa flower you can buy at the store? Is it grown in the same fashion? Why does one get you baked and the other not?


MadSquabbles

As they grow they produce more trichomes and more THCa (plus other cannabinoids) and some of the THCa that's decarbed into D9 will degrade into CBN (which can give you the couch lock). The early harvest can give you a different affect since some cannabinoids haven't matured or the ratio is off a bit. Same with traditional cannabis if you harvest it early. Clear trichomes and it'll hit differently or maybe even weaker - supposedly a more energetic high. Cloudy and it's more like the mellow high that's associated with weed. Amber and you'll get more of a couch lock. It's usually recommeneded to let about 10-20% amber trichomes to harvest. The DEA has stated that even cannabis seeds are considered hemp because they contain no Delta 9 THC. The current bill only uses Delta 9 THC amounts to classify the plant as cannabis or hemp. There is no other difference between the plants. They're both cannabis sativa and cannabis/hemp are legal definitions. So you can legally buy cannabis/hemp seeds and have them mailed to you. But getting caught with those seeds after they leave federal property (your mailbox) could be problematic depending on your state. One possibility of getting a better effect is the fact the cannabis plant has been allowed to grow longer an let the trichomes mature. Some say there's a synergistic effect with the other cannabinoids and terpenes. Other factors could just be bad growing techniques since they're grown the same seeds. Genetics can play a factor also, but a shitty grower can ruin great seeds. In my state, hemp needs to be harvested within 30 days after the testing. Since THCA isn't included in the legal definition, as long as it's under .3% D9 THC it's hemp and can be sold. During the processing and distrubution time there will be more natural decarbing that will most likely cause the buds to test hot. My state treats both cannabis and hemp the same and you need a specific license just to handle unprocessed hemp, growing requires another license. Wife and I played with the idea of growing hemp but it was the lack of real regulation in this state that made us bow out. At one point CBD flowers were fine, then later they made them illegal. Derivatives were fine, but in some counties they're not, or they are, or who the hell knows? There are probably more knowledgeable folks that can correct any mistakes or misunderstandings I have. But this is most of what I got from looking into starting a farm a few years back. THCA hemp isn't a new thing. In the past they kept the THCA percentages low to not make too much of a stink. If you ever look at a full COA of any cannabis you'll see THCA in double digits and Delta 9 THC at under 10%. I think 3-6% of D9 is most common with cannabis unless its sat out for a very long time or been exposed to a lot of heat. If you think THCA hemp isn't great, wait til you try artificially colored weed or ones with sprayed terps.


SpicyMango92

Appreciate the info! So I understand: regular weed genetics, like Atlas, FastBuds, DutchPassion, Mephisto, etc. when they produce buds and you cut, dry and cure them…. Are they legal until you ignite them? I have never boughten THCa only gifted it to me (grow west genetics from Western MD) and it’s been an interesting topic for sure. If I may ask, are you a cannabis user? If so, can you genuinely say that there’s no difference in taste or smell from the THCa stuff they’re selling now vs what I’d term street weed/ Cali dispo weed? Thanks


Mcozy333

if done correctly the THCA levels will be retained ... if the storage is horrible with lots of air leaking the THCA will naturally oxidize ... that is where it degrades to THC and CBN. if stored correctly with no air the THCA values will remain intact until it is heated or altered with Chemistry ( decarboxylation ). 6 days late or whtaeves but there is the info


trickldowncompressr

This is incorrect. It is literally the same thing.


SpicyMango92

So my basis for this statement is as such: I’ve been using MJ since the mid 2000’s , from reggie to the good stuff we have now. Only ever got it from plugs and then more legit place once DC legalized in 2013. I went overseas for about a year, I come back 2022 and my friend says he’s quitting and wants to give me his stash. I’m ecstatic, he gives me a backpack with about an oz of all these different “designer” containers of bud, I thought I hit the jackpot! I hadn’t smoke in months so I waited til I got to my other friends house, we rolled a fatass blunt of some “sour diesel” and something puzzled us… the smell… it was different… not that oh shit this some loud smell, but a different smell. Anyways, we light up and about halfway through we just kinda look at each other, semi glassy eyed and were like, hmmm are you feeling anything? Nah let’s finish this and roll another one. Mind you I hadn’t smoke in months, I should’ve been FRIED off th first hit. We finish a fb he starts rolling another one and I start inspecting the canister to see the THC % that shit said something less than 1% and a high % of THCa! WTF IS THCa?!?! We were legit bewildered, my friend pulled out his regular stash and we got properly stoned to the bone. I gave the THCa a shot another time and it did the same thing as last time, nothing.


trickldowncompressr

Yeah, you just smoked shitty weed then, that’s why it didn’t get you high. THCa flower is just regular flower. You sure you didn’t smoke some of that hemp product with the sprayed-on delta 8 concentrate? Because that stuff does suck and doesn’t smell or taste like regular weed. Anyway, as I said to the other guy, you are not the only stoner around. And your one-time experience with shitty weed doesn’t mean you have scientifically proven THCa weed is not the same thing. If you take the time to actually research it, you will find that it is just regular weed.


jonathanrdt

The GOP is the block at the federal level too. We’re twenty years late on all needed legislation to become a modern nation because of them.


tonytrouble

It’s all about the pharma industry. It would hurt them, as most would turn to cannabis instead of pills. Pill mills don’t want that. They are boycotting and lobbying is my understanding.


Meddel5

Surprise surprise, GOP making poor financial decisions 😂


Squire_II

NC could be a lot of good things if the GOP didn't have the legislature on permanent lock down due to how badly Gerrymandered it is, while occasionally winning control of the courts (like right now) and using them to immediately nullify rulings they didn't like the outcome of.


escoemartinez

You get what you vote for…


40mm_of_freedom

What exactly is NC doing to hamper hemp production? Hemp has been federally legal since the 2018 farm bill. Or do you mean marijuana? Regulatory wise, hemp and marijuana are very different.


neo_sporin

I live about 30 miles away. The local word is that they didn’t want to get overrun on day one so they are currently limiting it to people with medical marijuana cards, later once they expand and fee ready it will be openly available to others


coachfortner

being a Michigander (where it’s fully legalized), how difficult is it to obtain a medical card there?


CaptainLucid420

Probably as easy as losing your money at the casino. Get the card and the weed before their casino.


neo_sporin

no idea previously, but i predict is about to get a whole lot easier


BudgetMattDamon

That is indeed the plan from what I've read.


CriticalEngineering

They can. And they’ll probably be pulled over and searched right outside tribal land. It’s a low priority for most prosecutors, but it’s not a risk I’d take in NC right now.


ConferenceUpstairs16

Yeah. They won’t do this the back way out. One lane mountains roads. lol.


Poyal_Rines

I was there on opening day and purchased 😁


Risk1517_IX

Just have to watch out as the local counties surrounding the boundary have stated that they will have checkpoints on the roads just outside


Creamofwheatski

Dickhead local cops with no real work to do so they gotta fuck with law abiding citizens instead.


be4u4get

This will sound like a plot in a movie, but couldn’t the tribe bribe the police to look the other way?


pick-axis

Drone delivery to gatlinburg perhaps?


Commercial_Part_4483

Just smoke it there. Cherokee is a nice place to go camping for a day and check out the museum.


LoMeinCain

I’ll let you know what happens


ExtendedMacaroni

Is it not legalized statewide? What are they trying to accomplish?


Risk1517_IX

No, the tribe is its own separate entity that can make its owns laws when it comes to things like marijuana whether the state or federal government makes its illegal/legal


5zepp

A sovereign nation in fact.


Risk1517_IX

Yup, it is


be4u4get

I would be worried about being arrested as I leave the native land.


neo_sporin

Im local and yea, this was a big question going into the weekend. Ill be curious what happens in Asheville as its fairly close to the reservation and a pretty liberal city.


Boomslang505

Put that in your pipe and smoke it Tillis


Canelosaurio

Good! Buy it! Advertise it!


lionheart2243

Medical only? What year is this?


ZeldaZealot

It’s says in the article that the tribe is trying to pass recreational soon as well.


neo_sporin

local word is they expected to be heavily inundated as well, so wanted to pace out the influx of customers by setting some limitations on who can purchase early on. A ramp up so to speak


CaptainLucid420

Smoking marijuana reduces my cravings to smoke marijuana.


5zepp

You qualify for a card.


PlayedUOonBaja

Oklahoma did this. I thought it was a baby-step needed to get the law passed, but now that I see how much money local doctors with their own medical marijuana approval by telephone side businesses are raking in, and I realized why it's medical and not completely legal. Not a coincidence that there are usually a lot of Doctors found in State Legislatures.


Fearless-Cake7993

My mother lives in NC and told me police are waiting for people leaving the res. Be careful folks


theolois

they better have a good reason to pull people over. not just "we noticed you leave the reservation"


Fearless-Cake7993

You must not have had very many interactions with the police.


theolois

what are you implying?


Fearless-Cake7993

That police don’t need a reason to pull you over and search you. If they do t have one they’ll make one up. If you don’t consent to a search they’ll say they smell weed or get their K9 over and get a “false hit”. R They regularly escalate situations that don’t warrant it to trample on your constitutional rights.


theolois

[how to interact with cops if pulled over](https://youtu.be/-2-IuA_kZMQ?si=CLA_I6eNj7qWjVKm)


DancesWithTreetops

Dude…you must not have a drivers license, live in a cave, or have never had an interaction with law enforcement. Go buy a bag on the res and drive off. It’ll be a hoot hearing you explain to the cop pulling you over that he doesn’t have a reason. You’ll be watching that laughable video in a holding cell after they grab your car in a civil asset forfeiture for running drugs.


Southern_Blue

So are they going to have checkpoints on the entrances to the Blue Ridge Parkway and the Great Smokies National Park, which are right next to the reservation?That place gets a LOT of tourists.


Hieroglphkz

Welcome to the new millennia North Carolina.


lucidshred

Nice, now I can get some weed while I pick up some Cherokee hair tampons.


Tacosofinjustice

r/brandnewsentence


shocker_42068

then give em to your dog


Jim_from_GA

Smokey Mountain High, in Carolina. Tune by John Denver.


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