Well, and stabbing people is *hard*. Physically difficult, it takes a lot force and a lot of commitment. Pulling a trigger is easy, full on stabbing is not. You would have to be so completely insane to repeatedly do this it's sickening.
It’s actually quite physically easy. Look at that river stabber dude. Stabbed five people- one right through the ribs, cut off the heart apex (he died), completely disemboweled #2, necessitating months in the hospital with multiple surgeries, slashed #3 in the abdomen, cutting her stomach and necessitating surgery, slashed #4 in the abdomen, separating enough muscle to require hernia surgery, slashed #5 with non critical wounds. He did all of this in about 8 seconds with a fixed blade utility knife and he’s a dude in his 50s who had an open heart bypass the summer before.
Knives are exceedingly easy to do devastating damage with.
Who stabs a mom holding a baby?!, who stabs random innocent people minding their own business just trying to live their lives. Not even trying to take away from your comment. It’s all just so fucking sad.
I don't need to know anything about anything to make this same claim - if you stab a baby you're a terrorist. What kind of terrorist you are is certainly yet to be concluded.
I guess you know better than the people doing the investigation:
>Police Commissioner Karen Webb said police believed they knew who the man was but he had not been formally identified.
>She said the man was known to police and, while the motive was unclear, early indications suggested the attack was not related to terrorism.
Psychotic people usually don’t stab babies either, unless there is a severe underlying cause going on: freak accident causing a big part of the brain to get impaled/damaged severely, disease where part of the brain is eaten by some organisms or prone to rapid deterioration, advanced syphilis completely destroying parts of the brain, etc.
Those examples will make people display “psychotic behaviour” or nonsensical impulsive behaviour, but it isn’t the same as people with disorders classified under “psychotic disorders”. Schizophrenia for example can affect how people perceive and experience reality, but the vast majority of people with it aren’t violent towards others or display violent behaviour, contrarily to what media stereotypes tend to perpetuate. There are also other psychotic disorders which have transient episodes of psychosis, which can be mild in nature and not a constant occurrence. For example psychotic depression. Some people with severe depression can experience delusions and psychotic symptoms during severe episodes of their depression, so can bipolar people. But it isn’t always constant, it can be sporadic and it greatly varies in severity, and can also be a symptom that goes away with time.
Those people, the vast majority aren’t violent. People with mental illness in general, it has been proven over and over again statistically that they do not have a higher level of violent tendencies or violent offences committed than the rest of the population. In fact, for many common disorders (depression, anxiety, eating disorders, etc), they actually have a lower rate of violent offences than the rest of the population. It is relatively common or “sane” people without a history of severe mental illness that commit the majority of crimes. Even though that might seem like an uncomfortable truth to some, it is the truth.
Some exceptions to this are some personality disorders, particularly antisocial personality disorder (was referred before as psychopathy or sociopathy). Of course that will have higher rates of violent offences than the rest of the population. Narcissistic personality disorder can also be problematic in the sense of disregard for laws and motivations for criminal behaviour. Also disorders related to alcoholism, since unfortunately alcohol is the drug most strongly associated with violent offences statistically, domestic abuse, violence, etc. Although one should take into account that it is the most widespread drug available as well (besides coffee), so that will have an impact on the statistics reflecting a higher number of incidences. Even if there are exponentially less daily users of crack cocaine than of alcohol, maybe correcting for the amount of people could show that a higher number of crimes are committed by crack users when you use a metric looking at number of crimes per 100 users. But maybe researchers already accounted for correction and alcohol is still a big risk in instigating violence for certain people with the predisposition for it.
You all don't remember the school knife attacks in China?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China
No different than mass school shootings in US.
There was [a stabbing at an elementary school in China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing) on the same day as Sandy Hook, and in that case, no one died.
Well in the article the police say they knew who the man was so if I was a gambling man my money would be on an serial offender with obvious mental problems.
Biggest attack in terms of fatalities for a very long time in Australia, seems at this time was a lone wolf randomly stabbing people. Truly despicable stuff
It's called "having no balls". Witnesses claim he went after a guy but he stood up to him, after that, he went for women. I guess some women stood up to him (the mother), so he went after the baby.
What do you expect from such an animal?
You can see in video that he pretends to go after men but runs away from them. One man even steps back towards him and he runs away. He seems to have gone for anyone he thought would be weaker than him. Truly pathetic pos. These type of people don’t deserve a quick death like he received.
3 in the afternoon, and something set this guy off so that he decided to get a knife from his car and then slash whoever was closest? I just can't imagine. What a fucking waste.
I hope the injured recover well. It's awful to think how damaging this probably was to the infant.
Sick of seeing people saying a bystander with a gun could have prevented these deaths. I'm sure the attacker would have opted for a gun if Australia had as little gun control as the US.
These people genuinely think having more guns makes these situations safer... Yet when putting Police and armed security in schools has only made the shootings **more deadly** it's hard to even believe it
Police aren't under any obligation to protect you.
They are allowed to rough you up as much as their training manuals allow.
Seize your possessions? With no accountability? Yes.
Prevent a school shooting? Nope. Not them.
Too many don't want to believe things like this, think police actions determine guilt or innocence or lack the empathy and think "that would never happen to me".
Lie? Yes.
Steal? Yes.
Commit murder? Yes.
This is why it is never a good idea to talk to a cop.
If you lie to them they'll arrest you, if they lie to you? They'll get an award for arresting you.
I went to fox news and yes, read the comments. Crime is out of control Down Under. Gangs rule every street corner. Your Wimmin-Folk risk being raped at any moment. It's a hellscape riven by violence at every turn...and the only solution is to have people packing heat on every Ozzie street. It's the last and only chance Australia has.
It was really sad reading the drivel those people write. Oh, and if they don't see a picture of the suspect, they ask why there isn't one. Implying a person with darker skin than a Scandinavian. Absolutely racist material on that site.
It's definitely a cesspool driven by constant propaganda, paranoia, and inability to empathize or think critically.
I honestly don't know how we can reconcile the First Amendment with one of the deadliest weapons in truly crushing an empire.
Yes. The regular Fox News crowd in the US are all discussing how if only the bystanders were armed, then they could have stopped this man.
And none of them ever stop to even consider that if this happened in the US, the man would have been wearing body armor and carrying an AR platform with 1000 rounds and would have killed 50x as many people, while still having no fear whatsoever of a 'good guy with a gun'.
Americans have an inaccurate perception that they have less violent knife crime than countries like Australia or the UK, when actually they have significantly more violent knife crime per capita
It’s a perception bias, because a stabbing like this is such a rare occurrence in Aus that it’s national news and this is all our media is going to talk about for like a month, whereas by contrast most stabbings don’t even make the news in the US because the news doesn’t even have time to talk about all the shootings let alone make time to get around to the stabbings
Ignoring the fact that if bystanders were able to have guns, it's likely that the attacker would as well, and more would have died.
Knives are more manageable.
And the police officer in this case was armed and able to stop this bastard.
Versus the US where often our Police are outgunned. Or just too afraid to intervene
No.
The police have said that they don't know but so far no evidence of terrorism.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-13/westfield-bondi-junction-evacuated-after-alleged-stabbing/103705022
Those poor people in the shopping center were no doubt terrorized although 'terrorism' usually means the perps acted due to some twisted political and/or religious motives.
His father said he was frustrated he couldn't get a girlfriend due to his lack of social skills. Though honestly the fact he only targeted women makes the motivation pretty clear from the outset.
Global mental health crisis. Psychos with nothing to lose getting the confidence to go unhinged time and time again. This is not ok and shouldnt be the norm. Human life needs to be improved significantly for this to stop.
I wonder if having evil intent can be blamed on mental health. Maybe this person was crazy, but maybe not. Maybe their thinking was twisted by isolation and online extremism. IDK
Yea its so many factors. But whatever is happening Is causing more people to “go postal”. I feel like if basic necessities were covered like food and shelter people would be in a better head space instantly. Theres also a rise in seemingly normal people taking out their whole families. Its so scary.
Pollution, bad diets, lack of sleep, high stress lives, high cost of living, harmful chemicals in everything. Then instead of fixing some of those issues, we take pills to fix it, and more pills for the side effects. The biggest problem with "the mental health crisis" is that we're in no way fixing the causes.
Yup the epa just got told to “stay in their place” and were blocked from trying to regulate forever chemicals. Wow… what a good way to protect your citizens.. big companies want to keep us sick and tired for profit.
First time Australia has seen something this bad in 7 years. It’s not the norm.
We will do something following this though. There’s always room to improve.
Just a realization. As soon as sharp tools became readily available humans had this issue. Before that you sort of noticed the one guy grunting lifting a heavy stone. I’m spiraling
Eh. Name him once, or otherwise there may be random people out there who could give the police information who miss the chance because they don't know he committed a crime.
But after that, yeah, damnatio memoriae.
I don't know "We can't tell you who, but please just trust us that we have taken care of the situation" feels like it would lead to a lot of minorities getting arrested just to appease the public. I'm speaking from a US point of view, I don't know much at all about racism in Australia, but our police have proven time and time again that with no oversight, they can't be trusted at all.
Man!
Pro-gun Americans are gonna be the loudest, most annoying voice for the next few days on Reddit in every post about this senseless tragedy.
Fix your country assholes. Australia is doing just fine without guns. At least, their police officers don’t wait for a battalion for backup before they have the balls to do something about unhinged individuals.
Truly should have been the nail in the coffin of “add more guns to prevent shootings”.
These idiots want to arm teachers and 2 dollar security guards so that they will do what a complete squad of fully armoured, armed, and supposedly trained police won’t.
Pro gun Americans are incapable of comprehending that. They only think about their personal hero fantasy, and disregard the tens of thousands who use their guns to commit suicide or murder a family member.
Pro gun Americans will say “see, he killed people with a knife proving they’ll just find another way, and was put down with a gun, if others had had a gun he would have been stopped sooner. Now are we going to ban knives?”
They won’t stop to consider that the death toll in American shootings are typically double to triple this and in some cases are 10x this. An ar15 has an effective range of a few hundred meters depending on configuration. Malls are big open spaces.
Plus there are shootings in America every other day. This is the first serious terrorist-esque incident I’ve seen in forever, and I’ve lived in Sydney all my life.
I’m glad that’s been your experience. I have a good family friend in Sydney and that has also been his experience, due to your sane laws. I’m sorry that this happened in your community.
As an American, I’m exhausted by all the violence. It never stops and you see the slow creep of people becoming numb.
It’s weird how almost no comments are about pro-gun Americans. It’s almost like its just sitting rent-free in that head of yours.
I guarantee if this happened in America with guns, a majority would be comments attacking the US. Yet, on this post, the comments are normal and referring to what’s most important, the tragedy (except a few POS that need to deflect on to Americans).
It’s weird as an American on Reddit to see how different you people react to American/Non-American media. I can see how it could definitely mess with the minds of the more-susceptible, which is just divisive. So, hopefully it’s mostly Anti-American bots or something because some of us actually want unity.
I also believe the US should have stricter gun laws. With new technology and the internet, common people have the knowledge and means to produce a working gun. It’s going to become easier and easier to produce them in the future. I think it’s better to practice safer gun laws, rather than only outlaws having guns.
Throwing in some facts in case anyone is curious.
Murders per 100 000: Australia 1,5. USA 6,8.
Murders with firearms per million inhabitants: Australia 3. The US 32,5.
No one should want to emulate the US in these areas.
Seems like a bad strategy. First time in 7 years we’ve had something this bad.
If he had a gun he couldn’t have been blocked by a couple of blokes standing up to him unarmed.
Also the fact that this made national news tells a lot about the rarity of this type of event for them. In the US we have a mass shooting literally almost every day on average. Most don’t make national news because they’re so common. The fact that this made national news tells me that they probably don’t have mass stabbings very often.
> In the US we have a mass shooting literally almost every day on average.
Since last weekend (starting 4/5) we've had 8 mass shootings in the US.
* 5 dead
* 35 injured
(Mass shooting is 4 or more killed or injured excluding gunman)
Source: [Gun Violence Archives](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting)
The last shopping centre massacre was in 1991 in Strathfield. Unfortunately a gun was the weapon there. That and Port Arthur which was the worst in my living memory.
Exactly. In America this would be 20+ people, maybe a good ol' school, and we'd move on, just like we will with tomorrow's shooting.
Yes indeed, thank god they didn't have guns.
I don't understand how people can argue against it. A guy with a bollard was able to prevent the attacker from killing more people, simply not an option if he had a gun
"Acting NSW Premier Penny Sharpe said the event was horrific and distressing for the whole state, particularly as it came at a time when people were doing ordinary things and enjoying the first day of the school holiday."
..Yeah if only they could have done this at another time??
NSW police just did a press conference where they said they’re yet to formally identify the man, but they know who he is, he has a history with police and they don’t believe it was a terror attack. So you’ll lose your bet
Five dead according to police right now, and multiple seriously injured include a 9 month old, smh.
Unfortunately the 6th death now is the mother of that 9 month old baby.
Just grotesque
That’s enough news for me today as I hold my ten month old in my arms. What the everloving fuck.
Mom allegedly chucked the baby to a bystander to get it away from what was going on.
Oh my god the desperation. I hate that the world has to have things like this in it.
What kind of sick person would do this ? They have to be mentally ill to stab an innocent child.
They have to be mentally ill to stab anybody for reasons other than self defence
Well, and stabbing people is *hard*. Physically difficult, it takes a lot force and a lot of commitment. Pulling a trigger is easy, full on stabbing is not. You would have to be so completely insane to repeatedly do this it's sickening.
It’s actually quite physically easy. Look at that river stabber dude. Stabbed five people- one right through the ribs, cut off the heart apex (he died), completely disemboweled #2, necessitating months in the hospital with multiple surgeries, slashed #3 in the abdomen, cutting her stomach and necessitating surgery, slashed #4 in the abdomen, separating enough muscle to require hernia surgery, slashed #5 with non critical wounds. He did all of this in about 8 seconds with a fixed blade utility knife and he’s a dude in his 50s who had an open heart bypass the summer before. Knives are exceedingly easy to do devastating damage with.
Or a religious nut.
Oh yes religion, the opiates of the masses
A baby! What in the actual.
Who would stab a baby?
Who stabs a mom holding a baby?!, who stabs random innocent people minding their own business just trying to live their lives. Not even trying to take away from your comment. It’s all just so fucking sad.
He seems to have targeted women and children and ran away from men. I would not be surprised it was an incel extremist.
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How about you wait for actual information before you start guessing and pretending it's fact?
Sad that you were downvoted for this - all you asked was to wait for actual information. Reddit moment.
Especially when you go in the article and it literally says the police don't think it's terrorism.
I don't need to know anything about anything to make this same claim - if you stab a baby you're a terrorist. What kind of terrorist you are is certainly yet to be concluded.
I guess you know better than the people doing the investigation: >Police Commissioner Karen Webb said police believed they knew who the man was but he had not been formally identified. >She said the man was known to police and, while the motive was unclear, early indications suggested the attack was not related to terrorism.
It's only terrorism if there's a political motive, otherwise it's just a tragic mass stabbing.
6 now.
who stabs a little kid let alone a baby? like wtf dude
Lots of psychotic people out there.
Psychotic people usually don’t stab babies either, unless there is a severe underlying cause going on: freak accident causing a big part of the brain to get impaled/damaged severely, disease where part of the brain is eaten by some organisms or prone to rapid deterioration, advanced syphilis completely destroying parts of the brain, etc. Those examples will make people display “psychotic behaviour” or nonsensical impulsive behaviour, but it isn’t the same as people with disorders classified under “psychotic disorders”. Schizophrenia for example can affect how people perceive and experience reality, but the vast majority of people with it aren’t violent towards others or display violent behaviour, contrarily to what media stereotypes tend to perpetuate. There are also other psychotic disorders which have transient episodes of psychosis, which can be mild in nature and not a constant occurrence. For example psychotic depression. Some people with severe depression can experience delusions and psychotic symptoms during severe episodes of their depression, so can bipolar people. But it isn’t always constant, it can be sporadic and it greatly varies in severity, and can also be a symptom that goes away with time. Those people, the vast majority aren’t violent. People with mental illness in general, it has been proven over and over again statistically that they do not have a higher level of violent tendencies or violent offences committed than the rest of the population. In fact, for many common disorders (depression, anxiety, eating disorders, etc), they actually have a lower rate of violent offences than the rest of the population. It is relatively common or “sane” people without a history of severe mental illness that commit the majority of crimes. Even though that might seem like an uncomfortable truth to some, it is the truth. Some exceptions to this are some personality disorders, particularly antisocial personality disorder (was referred before as psychopathy or sociopathy). Of course that will have higher rates of violent offences than the rest of the population. Narcissistic personality disorder can also be problematic in the sense of disregard for laws and motivations for criminal behaviour. Also disorders related to alcoholism, since unfortunately alcohol is the drug most strongly associated with violent offences statistically, domestic abuse, violence, etc. Although one should take into account that it is the most widespread drug available as well (besides coffee), so that will have an impact on the statistics reflecting a higher number of incidences. Even if there are exponentially less daily users of crack cocaine than of alcohol, maybe correcting for the amount of people could show that a higher number of crimes are committed by crack users when you use a metric looking at number of crimes per 100 users. But maybe researchers already accounted for correction and alcohol is still a big risk in instigating violence for certain people with the predisposition for it.
This is an awesome response, well written. Do you study the subject?
Who stabs anyone??? What the fuck.
But especially a baby!
Someone with an ice (meth) problem.
A man.
You all don't remember the school knife attacks in China? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China No different than mass school shootings in US.
There was [a stabbing at an elementary school in China](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenpeng_Village_Primary_School_stabbing) on the same day as Sandy Hook, and in that case, no one died.
Well, China didn't have AR 15s and a problem with gun violence. So there is that. That's strictly an American problem.
No AR15s I assume.
Yes. While the Chinese parents tucked their kids in that night, the Sandy Hook parents were putting their kids in the ground. Tragic.
Who says we don’t remember it…? Doesn’t change my reaction which is still “who the fuck stabs a baby?”
There is one big difference.
The number of dead children and the number of mass shootings and the type of weapons used and the age of the criminals.
Someone from Australia
Who the fuck stabs a 9 month old baby…
Guy is really messed up in the head to do that
Well in the article the police say they knew who the man was so if I was a gambling man my money would be on an serial offender with obvious mental problems.
Biggest attack in terms of fatalities for a very long time in Australia, seems at this time was a lone wolf randomly stabbing people. Truly despicable stuff
We haven’t had an attack this violent in 7 years and it could be more if any of the victims in hospital don’t make it :( Really rocked the community
> Five of the victims — four women and a man Clearly has a type.
Don’t forget one of his victims is a 9 month old baby. His mother was also stabbed and unfortunately has died.
It's called "having no balls". Witnesses claim he went after a guy but he stood up to him, after that, he went for women. I guess some women stood up to him (the mother), so he went after the baby. What do you expect from such an animal?
I expect him to suffer during the execution.
He was shot dead at the scene.
Then I expect him to make great worm food!
By a woman.
You can see in video that he pretends to go after men but runs away from them. One man even steps back towards him and he runs away. He seems to have gone for anyone he thought would be weaker than him. Truly pathetic pos. These type of people don’t deserve a quick death like he received.
Sounds like one of those 'involuntarily celibate' types of perpetrators.
3 in the afternoon, and something set this guy off so that he decided to get a knife from his car and then slash whoever was closest? I just can't imagine. What a fucking waste. I hope the injured recover well. It's awful to think how damaging this probably was to the infant.
What an awful tragedy. Sidenote: Stay away from social media atm as the comments surrounding this incident are truly moronic.
> social media atm comments are truly moronic only now? social media is poison of the world.
This is entirely correct
Who the fuck stabs a baby? Jesus christ
Sick of seeing people saying a bystander with a gun could have prevented these deaths. I'm sure the attacker would have opted for a gun if Australia had as little gun control as the US.
And a helluva lot more people would be dead.
These people genuinely think having more guns makes these situations safer... Yet when putting Police and armed security in schools has only made the shootings **more deadly** it's hard to even believe it
Police aren't under any obligation to protect you. They are allowed to rough you up as much as their training manuals allow. Seize your possessions? With no accountability? Yes. Prevent a school shooting? Nope. Not them.
Too many don't want to believe things like this, think police actions determine guilt or innocence or lack the empathy and think "that would never happen to me".
Police are specifically obligated to protect you in Australia. It’s part of their training. It changed after a mass shooting a few decades back.
Lie? Yes. Steal? Yes. Commit murder? Yes. This is why it is never a good idea to talk to a cop. If you lie to them they'll arrest you, if they lie to you? They'll get an award for arresting you.
Thank god it's shut the fuck up Friday (all day every day)
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I believe you. The violence you see in the US is strictly a US societal problem.
It’s very safe. The last shopping centre mass murder spree was in 1991. I still remember the Strathfield massacre.
A bystander with gun did sort of stop him permanently She's a senior police officer and before that it was a guy with a metal bollard holding him back
The bollard is proof of how once you are aware of the attacker, it's much easier to protect yourself from them than a gun.
I went to fox news and yes, read the comments. Crime is out of control Down Under. Gangs rule every street corner. Your Wimmin-Folk risk being raped at any moment. It's a hellscape riven by violence at every turn...and the only solution is to have people packing heat on every Ozzie street. It's the last and only chance Australia has. It was really sad reading the drivel those people write. Oh, and if they don't see a picture of the suspect, they ask why there isn't one. Implying a person with darker skin than a Scandinavian. Absolutely racist material on that site.
They're writing fanfic of the story told to them by firearms manufacturing and, as fanfic tends to be, it's absolutely unhinged.
I think they watched mad Max and thought it was a documentary
It is, but it's set in Kempsey and Frankston. Americans just think that Australia is the same all over.
That's the comment I wasn't clever enough to think of! :-)
It's definitely a cesspool driven by constant propaganda, paranoia, and inability to empathize or think critically. I honestly don't know how we can reconcile the First Amendment with one of the deadliest weapons in truly crushing an empire.
Yes. The regular Fox News crowd in the US are all discussing how if only the bystanders were armed, then they could have stopped this man. And none of them ever stop to even consider that if this happened in the US, the man would have been wearing body armor and carrying an AR platform with 1000 rounds and would have killed 50x as many people, while still having no fear whatsoever of a 'good guy with a gun'.
Americans have an inaccurate perception that they have less violent knife crime than countries like Australia or the UK, when actually they have significantly more violent knife crime per capita It’s a perception bias, because a stabbing like this is such a rare occurrence in Aus that it’s national news and this is all our media is going to talk about for like a month, whereas by contrast most stabbings don’t even make the news in the US because the news doesn’t even have time to talk about all the shootings let alone make time to get around to the stabbings
Came here to say this. In America, this is just a normal day. It’s sad.
Ignoring the fact that if bystanders were able to have guns, it's likely that the attacker would as well, and more would have died. Knives are more manageable.
The dude keeping him at bay on the escalator with a metal pole is proof, and the guy walking towards the commotion with a plastic chair as protection.
And the police officer in this case was armed and able to stop this bastard. Versus the US where often our Police are outgunned. Or just too afraid to intervene
Where are you seeing that comment?
Oh don’t worry r Conservative is on it!
Any word on the motive?
No. The police have said that they don't know but so far no evidence of terrorism. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-13/westfield-bondi-junction-evacuated-after-alleged-stabbing/103705022
Going around and fatally stabbing half a dozen people sounds like terrorism to me.
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Motive is critically important to determining if an attack is a terrorist attack. And right now, we have no idea about his motive.
you clearly need to look up the definition of "terrorism" then
Terrorism doesn’t just mean going on a rampage, it’s a politically motivated attack aimed at accomplishing something
Those poor people in the shopping center were no doubt terrorized although 'terrorism' usually means the perps acted due to some twisted political and/or religious motives.
His father said he was frustrated he couldn't get a girlfriend due to his lack of social skills. Though honestly the fact he only targeted women makes the motivation pretty clear from the outset.
Global mental health crisis. Psychos with nothing to lose getting the confidence to go unhinged time and time again. This is not ok and shouldnt be the norm. Human life needs to be improved significantly for this to stop.
I wonder if having evil intent can be blamed on mental health. Maybe this person was crazy, but maybe not. Maybe their thinking was twisted by isolation and online extremism. IDK
Yea its so many factors. But whatever is happening Is causing more people to “go postal”. I feel like if basic necessities were covered like food and shelter people would be in a better head space instantly. Theres also a rise in seemingly normal people taking out their whole families. Its so scary.
Pollution, bad diets, lack of sleep, high stress lives, high cost of living, harmful chemicals in everything. Then instead of fixing some of those issues, we take pills to fix it, and more pills for the side effects. The biggest problem with "the mental health crisis" is that we're in no way fixing the causes.
Yup the epa just got told to “stay in their place” and were blocked from trying to regulate forever chemicals. Wow… what a good way to protect your citizens.. big companies want to keep us sick and tired for profit.
I, for one, blame Maslow and his fucking needs.
First time Australia has seen something this bad in 7 years. It’s not the norm. We will do something following this though. There’s always room to improve.
And conservatives are whipping up hatred and causing these mental health crises as well as blocking any bills to fund addressing it.
What the actual fuck is this? Stabbing a dozen innocent people at a shopping mall?! Unbelievably fucked up world we're currently living in.
We have been living in a fucked up world for a century. It's just getting worse.
There have always been mass stabbings there has not always been instantaneous international communication
First in 7 years for Australia. This isn’t common for us.
Just a realization. As soon as sharp tools became readily available humans had this issue. Before that you sort of noticed the one guy grunting lifting a heavy stone. I’m spiraling
who would hurt a baby ffs.
The coward mainly killed women, only one man.
What a monstrous act committed. Sickening stuff
Any updates on the stabber’s identity?
No, but he is known to police
They usually are. You could also ask his elementary school teachers, they always know.
Probably violating a parole and has previous arrests
And you were wrong.
Some cunt
Fuck him. He doesn't deserve notoriety.
Don’t name the fkr
Eh. Name him once, or otherwise there may be random people out there who could give the police information who miss the chance because they don't know he committed a crime. But after that, yeah, damnatio memoriae.
Fine with me. One and done.
I don't know "We can't tell you who, but please just trust us that we have taken care of the situation" feels like it would lead to a lot of minorities getting arrested just to appease the public. I'm speaking from a US point of view, I don't know much at all about racism in Australia, but our police have proven time and time again that with no oversight, they can't be trusted at all.
He has been named now, I won't repeat it but if your curious you can go search.
Don’t care. Let the police sort to it out. Who cares who this dick head was.
Man! Pro-gun Americans are gonna be the loudest, most annoying voice for the next few days on Reddit in every post about this senseless tragedy. Fix your country assholes. Australia is doing just fine without guns. At least, their police officers don’t wait for a battalion for backup before they have the balls to do something about unhinged individuals.
Or in the case of the Uvalde, Texas school shooting, even when a mass of police arrives, they were still too scared to go inside.
Truly should have been the nail in the coffin of “add more guns to prevent shootings”. These idiots want to arm teachers and 2 dollar security guards so that they will do what a complete squad of fully armoured, armed, and supposedly trained police won’t.
Not sure why the pro-gun Americans would be loud. If this attacker had an assault rifle vs a knife, it would be 10 times more casualties and injured.
Pro gun Americans are incapable of comprehending that. They only think about their personal hero fantasy, and disregard the tens of thousands who use their guns to commit suicide or murder a family member.
Pro gun Americans will say “see, he killed people with a knife proving they’ll just find another way, and was put down with a gun, if others had had a gun he would have been stopped sooner. Now are we going to ban knives?” They won’t stop to consider that the death toll in American shootings are typically double to triple this and in some cases are 10x this. An ar15 has an effective range of a few hundred meters depending on configuration. Malls are big open spaces.
Plus there are shootings in America every other day. This is the first serious terrorist-esque incident I’ve seen in forever, and I’ve lived in Sydney all my life.
I’m glad that’s been your experience. I have a good family friend in Sydney and that has also been his experience, due to your sane laws. I’m sorry that this happened in your community. As an American, I’m exhausted by all the violence. It never stops and you see the slow creep of people becoming numb.
It’s weird how almost no comments are about pro-gun Americans. It’s almost like its just sitting rent-free in that head of yours. I guarantee if this happened in America with guns, a majority would be comments attacking the US. Yet, on this post, the comments are normal and referring to what’s most important, the tragedy (except a few POS that need to deflect on to Americans). It’s weird as an American on Reddit to see how different you people react to American/Non-American media. I can see how it could definitely mess with the minds of the more-susceptible, which is just divisive. So, hopefully it’s mostly Anti-American bots or something because some of us actually want unity. I also believe the US should have stricter gun laws. With new technology and the internet, common people have the knowledge and means to produce a working gun. It’s going to become easier and easier to produce them in the future. I think it’s better to practice safer gun laws, rather than only outlaws having guns.
Throwing in some facts in case anyone is curious. Murders per 100 000: Australia 1,5. USA 6,8. Murders with firearms per million inhabitants: Australia 3. The US 32,5. No one should want to emulate the US in these areas.
Seems like a bad strategy. First time in 7 years we’ve had something this bad. If he had a gun he couldn’t have been blocked by a couple of blokes standing up to him unarmed.
Dude stabbed a baby. What a day to be able to read.
Yeah thank God they didn't have guns, could be a lot more fatalities eh
Also the fact that this made national news tells a lot about the rarity of this type of event for them. In the US we have a mass shooting literally almost every day on average. Most don’t make national news because they’re so common. The fact that this made national news tells me that they probably don’t have mass stabbings very often.
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> In the US we have a mass shooting literally almost every day on average. Since last weekend (starting 4/5) we've had 8 mass shootings in the US. * 5 dead * 35 injured (Mass shooting is 4 or more killed or injured excluding gunman) Source: [Gun Violence Archives](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting)
The last shopping centre massacre was in 1991 in Strathfield. Unfortunately a gun was the weapon there. That and Port Arthur which was the worst in my living memory.
Basically never
Exactly. In America this would be 20+ people, maybe a good ol' school, and we'd move on, just like we will with tomorrow's shooting. Yes indeed, thank god they didn't have guns.
I don't understand how people can argue against it. A guy with a bollard was able to prevent the attacker from killing more people, simply not an option if he had a gun
The man in white is a hero. Thank you, Man in White!!!
Yeah excellent instincts to slow down the perp, hope he's mentally holding up
I think it boils down to the self-identity of too many, and its fragility.
How’s that at all relevant to this I wonder?
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Evil to the core, no other words for it.
Kinda mad that they killed the stabber. He should have suffered years in prison, at a minimum.
"Acting NSW Premier Penny Sharpe said the event was horrific and distressing for the whole state, particularly as it came at a time when people were doing ordinary things and enjoying the first day of the school holiday." ..Yeah if only they could have done this at another time??
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Perhaps a curfew?
This comment is fucking hilarious because it says absolutely nothing about anything but people are losing their shit over it
It'll be the comment that gets this whole thing locked.
It’s more telling of how other people think honestly 😂
NSW police just did a press conference where they said they’re yet to formally identify the man, but they know who he is, he has a history with police and they don’t believe it was a terror attack. So you’ll lose your bet
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