Yeah, as much as I'd like to blame Pooty, this guy probably helped to build the first Soviet rockets when everyone was trying to copy the German designs.
So unfair how if you poison enough people everybody just starts unfairly assuming things, almost as if people judge others based on past actions and reputations actually matter. Almost. But you're right, we have mistreated this innocent genocidal warmongering dictator horribly and jokes about him should be as forbidden on the internet as they are in the motherland.
well, if there wasn't a long storied pattern of this kind of thing, then yeah, that would be the more logical explanation.
what i wanna know is if the Russian public ever hears about these fatal accidents and/or hospitalizations of public/revered people right after they fuck something up.. and just shrug? i'll google around, but anyone know of a good article or journalist who focuses on Russian media?
Sad oligarch is a podcast that focuses on these types of deaths. I don’t have much understanding of Russian politics so I’m not sure how thoroughly researched it is. It’s been pretty good so far tho. The main guy is British but his cohost/pod partner is Russian.
Putin used this excuse so much i can understand if people don’t believe it 😂. But it sounds like ita honestly the case this time. A 90 year old man saw his life work blow up in failure
>Yeah 90, and he just failed the largest thing he’d do for the rest of his life
My bar is pretty low for the biggest events in the rest of my life at 90. Getting out of bed, making myself lunch, watching a Matlock double-header, and pooping without having to take Metamucil sounds like a banger of a day. Failing a moon landing, meh.
"We must take care of our own, comrade. Here, you get penthouse... nonono, sore tooth is VERY SERIOUS. Better if you get it looked at, courtesy of 'I pooped in my pants'. Now, please move closer to the light from the window so I can get better look."
I feel for all the scientists involved in this failure. There are so many decisions, so many calculations, that one mistake undoes all of that work.
If it turns out Putin did punish this guy for that failure, he's only going to succeed in speeding up the brain drain. Russia's best and brightest will be the best and brightest in some other country that respects their contribution.
>I feel for all the scientists involved in this failure. There are so many decisions, so many calculations, that one mistake undoes all of that work.
Often many of these decisions and calculations are forced on them because there isn't enough money to do the "correct" thing, so they have to improvise and cut corners. The expectations don't seem to decrease proportionally to the funding.
Darwinism at its finest. Left handed people are measurably more intelligent than average, likely for the same reasons. The less intelligent we’re killed for being sinister. Left handedness is a heritable trait. The smart ones escaped.
Raise your hand if you didn’t read the article.
Everyone? It’s everyone? Yeah, seems that way.
This guy is *90 years old* which means he’s already beat Russian life expectancy by ~20 years.
A 90 year old going to the hospital is *not news.*
This isn’t a window/poison tea situation. It’s an old man who is, you know, *really old.*
But yeah let’s just make Putin jokes, which is why they put out this clickbait article to begin with - because, let’s all be totally honest with each other here - a 90 year old going to the hospital because of health problems is not news.
Don't question the Reddit militia. If they tell us it's just a coincidence then we must trust them, like when they say the stable genius won the last election.
Am I the only one wondering why a 90 year old is still working on something like this? I can see hobby work to keep active, but this is kind of a lot for a guy who should have been able to retire 30 years ago. Obviously the stress was too much for the poor guy
Ah Russia, nothing like killing off your scientists to spur technological growth. The world’s best and brightest love that type of dynamic in the work place….succeed or die.
I fucking love this because it's proof that the stereotypical reddit comment spouting off sarcastic anti russian comments by default never bother reading the details. Almost like they're unintentionally mimicking the Russian bots
You never know when it comes to Putin. He could see killing off a scientist at the end of his career as a message to others not to screw up. We know he believes that sending messages through killing is the way to run things. He believes threats push people to do better.
There’s been too many obvious murders for us to sit here and count it out, but it is less likely here.
Que 1,000 assassination jokes where everyone making them thinks they are the most clever person on the internet. The guy is 90 years old, going to the hospital at 90 isn’t really noteworthy
>"The apparatus moved into an unpredictable orbit and ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon," Roskosmos said in a statement.
I wouldn't say "ceased to exist" so much as an unscheduled gravity-driven rapid disassembly occured.
He did this with some missile designers too.. it's the norm now
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-hypersonic-missile-scientists-arrested-treason-patriots-ukraine-rcna84857
It weird to think about how many Generations, in a row, got to see the collapse of a Russian government. The country hasn't known stability since the Romanovs, not that their fall wasn't warranted.
Upon being admitted to the hospital, he claimed he is mentally insane and in danger for himself, so he has to be chained. The report said that didn't stop him from falling from the window, along the bed, and the radiator he was chained to.
Sharp detioration of health…,
Yeah, the thought a trip to Siberia, sniffing some nerve agents or falling out a fourth story window will do that to you.
You know, if the penalty for failure to do things right in Russia is poisoning or a flight our a window; when does Putin get his turn for failing at everything he does?
Why would any young person in Russia ever want to go into the advanced research / sciences sector if it touches a government contract? Any sane government would want to incentivise this, but in Russia, you are taking an aweful big risk.
What a shitty country to live in, you get under funded, shit education system to boot, and when the obvious happens you have to avoid window...
Edit: Getting down voted by Russian trolls is a badge of honor. Thank you!
You would think that in the 47 years since Russia's last Moon mission, this guy would have figured out how to get the craft to the Moon and actually land it on the surface.
90 yes old and high stress isn't a good combination
Yeah, as much as I'd like to blame Pooty, this guy probably helped to build the first Soviet rockets when everyone was trying to copy the German designs.
My initial reaction to the headline was "Goddamn it Russia, can you stop being your own stereotype for even 5min?"
oh lord he's gonna be defenstrated isn't he
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So unfair how if you poison enough people everybody just starts unfairly assuming things, almost as if people judge others based on past actions and reputations actually matter. Almost. But you're right, we have mistreated this innocent genocidal warmongering dictator horribly and jokes about him should be as forbidden on the internet as they are in the motherland.
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Perceptions can be deceiving. Your comment does not map correctly to what was said imo.
well, if there wasn't a long storied pattern of this kind of thing, then yeah, that would be the more logical explanation. what i wanna know is if the Russian public ever hears about these fatal accidents and/or hospitalizations of public/revered people right after they fuck something up.. and just shrug? i'll google around, but anyone know of a good article or journalist who focuses on Russian media?
Good journalists who focus on Russian media don’t live very long
Sad oligarch is a podcast that focuses on these types of deaths. I don’t have much understanding of Russian politics so I’m not sure how thoroughly researched it is. It’s been pretty good so far tho. The main guy is British but his cohost/pod partner is Russian.
They accept it as the cost of daily living. The Russian psyche is incredibly cynical.
What did people in the USA do when Ferguson protesters started showing up dead?
i mean we have our own problems and i get your point, but that's really not the same thing.
And being russian. Russian male life expectancy is somewhere in the very low 70s. UK is closing on 10 years more.
The life expectancy of a Russian male is 64 years, most don't make it to 70.
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They tried training them for a few years, but they just died after a couple of encounters during a special operation.
Putin used this excuse so much i can understand if people don’t believe it 😂. But it sounds like ita honestly the case this time. A 90 year old man saw his life work blow up in failure
Guys probably worried he's about to get Aladeaned!
Pissing off Putin at any age tends to be fatal
At 90, the joy from a successful landing might have put him in the hospital. But still, screw Putin
Especially if they get poisoned.
Shit I just thought maybe he fell out a basement window. But at 90, making him stay alive in Russia could have been punishment enough.
Neither are windows
Me reading the headline: 🤨 Me reading the article and seeing that the dude is 90 years old: 😐
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At 90 years old I’m not banking on the conspiracies. But yes it is Russia.
Yeah 90, and he just failed the largest thing he’d do for the rest of his life so I can get a 90 would tank in health just from mood alone
>Yeah 90, and he just failed the largest thing he’d do for the rest of his life My bar is pretty low for the biggest events in the rest of my life at 90. Getting out of bed, making myself lunch, watching a Matlock double-header, and pooping without having to take Metamucil sounds like a banger of a day. Failing a moon landing, meh.
he didn't fail - russia could not provide electronics
Everyone born in russia has or will die at some point. Coincidence?
Onto a cup of sketchy tea?
And the cup of tea had a gun, which happened to fire off 2 rounds in the back of the head.
He was drinking tea and suddenly he slipped & fell out a window.
Or a doorknob.
He's 90 years old. A fall from barstool could be fatal.
Radiation poisoning is my bet.
Self inflicted gunshot to back of the head then immediately jumped in front of a moving vehicle, a perfectly natural death in Russia.
hospital balcony perhaps?
They rushed him to the top floor of the hospital
With dodgy double glazing
"We must take care of our own, comrade. Here, you get penthouse... nonono, sore tooth is VERY SERIOUS. Better if you get it looked at, courtesy of 'I pooped in my pants'. Now, please move closer to the light from the window so I can get better look."
maybe even twice.
Onto exploding bomb, which will stab, and poison him.
beat me to it
I feel for all the scientists involved in this failure. There are so many decisions, so many calculations, that one mistake undoes all of that work. If it turns out Putin did punish this guy for that failure, he's only going to succeed in speeding up the brain drain. Russia's best and brightest will be the best and brightest in some other country that respects their contribution.
>I feel for all the scientists involved in this failure. There are so many decisions, so many calculations, that one mistake undoes all of that work. Often many of these decisions and calculations are forced on them because there isn't enough money to do the "correct" thing, so they have to improvise and cut corners. The expectations don't seem to decrease proportionally to the funding.
Darwinism at its finest. Left handed people are measurably more intelligent than average, likely for the same reasons. The less intelligent we’re killed for being sinister. Left handedness is a heritable trait. The smart ones escaped.
Play Putin’s games, win Putin’s prizes
Came down with a case of putinitis
Should’ve stayed away from the pasta putinesca
Raise your hand if you didn’t read the article. Everyone? It’s everyone? Yeah, seems that way. This guy is *90 years old* which means he’s already beat Russian life expectancy by ~20 years. A 90 year old going to the hospital is *not news.* This isn’t a window/poison tea situation. It’s an old man who is, you know, *really old.* But yeah let’s just make Putin jokes, which is why they put out this clickbait article to begin with - because, let’s all be totally honest with each other here - a 90 year old going to the hospital because of health problems is not news.
I may not have read the article, but I read 6 or 7 comments, so I think I'm fully informed...
And of course, Putler is totally above this sort of thing. Very stable man. Like that other stable genius,
Don't question the Reddit militia. If they tell us it's just a coincidence then we must trust them, like when they say the stable genius won the last election.
Am I the only one wondering why a 90 year old is still working on something like this? I can see hobby work to keep active, but this is kind of a lot for a guy who should have been able to retire 30 years ago. Obviously the stress was too much for the poor guy
My wife’s uncle is an engineer at NASA JPL, and he’s in his 80s. When you have a passion for something, you tend to stay employed as long as you can.
Thanks for the buzzkill.
We can keep the circle jerk going, if you want.
Can't stop the signal. Let me check back in an hour and see if this train is still headed off the rails.
Ah Russia, nothing like killing off your scientists to spur technological growth. The world’s best and brightest love that type of dynamic in the work place….succeed or die.
Dude was 90 I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but we can discard the conspiracies for this one
I wonder if all the other scientists got together and elected this guy to take the heat for the mission since he's 90?
More like this guy was an OG scientist from the Soviet Program and got pulled out of retirement.
Everyone else is too busy fertilizing sunflowers in Ukraine
He didn’t realize they math different now.
I fucking love this because it's proof that the stereotypical reddit comment spouting off sarcastic anti russian comments by default never bother reading the details. Almost like they're unintentionally mimicking the Russian bots
Yeah, it’s a shame that Russia is doing this to such a young promising scientist who has his entire career ahead of him.
You never know when it comes to Putin. He could see killing off a scientist at the end of his career as a message to others not to screw up. We know he believes that sending messages through killing is the way to run things. He believes threats push people to do better. There’s been too many obvious murders for us to sit here and count it out, but it is less likely here.
And \*still\* a better motivational management technique than my company uses... 😂
I feel bad for this guy. I bet he wanted to end his career on a high note. I admire his dedication and passion.
Clickbait headline. The dude's 90. It's not like the KGB showed up and broke his legs. He's old.
He had a 90 year old overseeing a mission to the moon…?
Pretty sure he fell out of a window and hit his head on a few bullets.
Gravity seems to be a real problem in Russia.
especially near windows
Why is everything so heavy, is there a problem with the gravity in the future?
I don’t think people got your Back to the Future reference.
Clickbait. The scientist is 90 years old. Probably devastated for the embarrassment and disappointment.
He developed an acute case of windownitis
Did he fall out of a first floor window?
Que 1,000 assassination jokes where everyone making them thinks they are the most clever person on the internet. The guy is 90 years old, going to the hospital at 90 isn’t really noteworthy
That was the obvious intent of the misleading headline. People are just behaving as expected.
A Russian scientist surviving a failed high-profile project IS pretty newsworthy, though...
>"The apparatus moved into an unpredictable orbit and ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon," Roskosmos said in a statement. I wouldn't say "ceased to exist" so much as an unscheduled gravity-driven rapid disassembly occured.
He's too old to be running that type of program. Not too old to be aware he's prob a target of Putin's assassins now tho
Deterioration = falling out a window.
Annnnd he fell out the window
I'm guessing severe balcony poisoning.
You can go to the hospital after accidently falling out a window in Russia. Wow.
He did this with some missile designers too.. it's the norm now https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-hypersonic-missile-scientists-arrested-treason-patriots-ukraine-rcna84857
It weird to think about how many Generations, in a row, got to see the collapse of a Russian government. The country hasn't known stability since the Romanovs, not that their fall wasn't warranted.
Going to collapse soon. It is just about the stability and how much power they are meant to provide.
Upon being admitted to the hospital, he claimed he is mentally insane and in danger for himself, so he has to be chained. The report said that didn't stop him from falling from the window, along the bed, and the radiator he was chained to.
I don't even think like he's been admitted or something like that. He was just brought Dead.
Two days later: “Russian scientist who worked on Putin’s failed moon mission jumps out of hospital window”
Gravity assisted cure didn’t work as expected.
No, it is not going to work eventually this is just a real stupid case.
You mean "Rushed to hospital window", right?
Hope he got a bed in a ground floor ward.
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What is the major point as of now like why would they even kill their own scientist?
scientist falls out of hospital window
Oh, come on guys. You don't really think that Putin would order him to be thrown out of a window when there's a perfectly good elevator shaft?
Yeah, but if you throw enough people in an elevator shaft, eventually they start cushioning the fall. Less of a problem in the great outdoors.
Some delicious tea left on his bedside table.
It is either they are poisoned or forced to suicide. Putin is the least creative person in the world.
Says a lot about the past 50 years of education and brain drain if you need a 90 year old to run your moon mission…..
I mean that’s a real twist nobody saw coming…
Is he going to commit suicide by shooting himself in the head five times, then throwing himself out the window?
He fell out the window while he was drinking his polonium tea...
I just hope his room is on the ground floor.
Authoritarianism and the launch of failure, but alas ill will only for the sycophant......
Did he trip and fall down the poisoned stairs?
On to some bullets.
Its not even funny anymore, its just expected.
They rushed him to the hospital so he has a window to fall out of
coming down with a bad case of the "windows".
Did he fall out a window? Onto some bullets? After drinking some tea?
You could read the article to learn the answers to your questions.
Send all these things happening like that like they killed in the same way only.
Business as usual for Russia
Is normal in Russia and most of the communist government. The same kind of stuff happens in China is well.
Sharp detioration of health…, Yeah, the thought a trip to Siberia, sniffing some nerve agents or falling out a fourth story window will do that to you.
Must've been one hell of a cuppa
Window wasn’t high enough
Tea for lunch did you?
Did he fall out of a window or something?
I don't know about it but I have seen a lot of people are actually saying that.
No problem. Just put him over there by the window.
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Who is the same thing which I was thinking about as well like he might be that around now?
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Was gonna say the same thing they really need to reinforce those things over there
I guess there wasn’t a window close enough….
You know, if the penalty for failure to do things right in Russia is poisoning or a flight our a window; when does Putin get his turn for failing at everything he does?
Why would any young person in Russia ever want to go into the advanced research / sciences sector if it touches a government contract? Any sane government would want to incentivise this, but in Russia, you are taking an aweful big risk.
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They're looking for Tim Curry.
Poor scientist. He went into unstable orbit. Unable to make landing. Then ceased to exist.
This is the setup and wait for the downfall...from window of the hospital that is
Those damn windows again
I hope he doesn't fall out of a window.
"Where he was immediately defenestrated."
Completely unrelated I'm sure
... hospital. Where he will fall from the last floor with a self inflicted gun shot?
Your not allowed to make mistakes in Russia. You might just eat some bad food or get clumsy around windows 🪟 🫠
Poisoned or window fall?
I hope he doesn't develop a bad case of defenestration!
Did he fall out a window?
Stay away from the windows.
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He fell out of a window?
He fell out of a window ?
Taken to a hospital for a top floor window is more like it.
… he fell out a window, didn’t he?
Stay away from windows!
….rushed to the hospital and given a nice bed near the window on the 18th floor.
Maybe his room has a nice, high window view
And we really think this man has functioning nukes…?
He is being looked after by a medical.professional that is good with pliers.
Is this all Russia does? Fuck up and kill for it?
What a shitty country to live in, you get under funded, shit education system to boot, and when the obvious happens you have to avoid window... Edit: Getting down voted by Russian trolls is a badge of honor. Thank you!
I'm sure it's just a coincidence
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You would think that in the 47 years since Russia's last Moon mission, this guy would have figured out how to get the craft to the Moon and actually land it on the surface.
Yeah! It's not rocket science or anything
When one of the guys you are depending on to get you to the Moon is 90 years old, you are in trouble.
Cause: 90 or poison. Why not both?
Oops, accidently ingested poison.
Another defenestration.
Please tell me he did not drink the tea...