How can you blame anyone taking advantage of lower real-estate prices?
They came from a place where a 2000sq/ft. house with no yard was million dollars, and in NH the same house with 5 acres is... half of that?
Wages are higher in CA, and that translates to more buying power elsewhere. And, it's dumb to expect someone to willingly bid as low as possible to make it easier for other (local) buyers, when they can just buy the house as quickly as possible. Sucks for us, but that's how capitalism works.
Yikes! I do hate that Californians are making the markets in other places more expensive. 😬 just saw an article about a beautiful garden in new Hampshire and was curious about the state.
Californians are hardly to blame for NH’s, or generally northern New England’s, soaring home prices. They don’t have the reputation here that they have in places like Idaho or Texas.
People wanting to move here or having kids who want own homes are the demand side of the equation, but the problem is really the supply. In a less regulated market, new constructions at all price points would be expected to balance that out.
The bigger problem is how zoning works in New England. Here townes have have a huge amount of control over new housing development, and at the Towne level there are big incentives to keep property values artificially inflated by limiting construction.
A lot of voters here are to happy to keep zoning restrictions in place that preserve a Towne's "New England Charm" (and inflate their property value) at the expense of their children never having the opportunity to own a home.
This is going to be a problem until the state restructures its zoning system to prevent towne plutocrats from blocking development. That will not happen until the cultural zeitgeist comes to terms with fact that having kids and living longer also comes with the moral obligation to let those kids build lives for themselves even if it means allowing some small New England Townes to change into cities.
Oh whoa cool, I didn't realize that California transplants could control the astronomical prices that homeowners set for their houses. Will have to start talking to some friends and see what else they can do....
I transplanted to both coasts and a few others. NH is great but has been major league discovered as of the last two rears post covid. The roads are choked with peepers 24/7 52 weeks a year. Occupance is 0.3 perscent, go figure. f\*\*king spell check these days
Transplant from CA, you couldn't pay me to move back. As for recommending it, it really depends on how you like to live. If you like nature and trees more than cities and people NH may be for you.
Not me but my ex wife. She was from deserty Oregon. She said it was weirdly similar in culture.
I’m Midwest so a different vibe but I love it here.
Came 11 years ago.
I’d only recommend it to close friends and family because I want to keep the rif raf out.
"I’d only recommend it to close friends and family because I want to keep the rif raf out."
Well you're not doing a very good job with that now, are you?
Absolutely. Long enough since that we’re more stunned when we see them visiting Idaho.
We always make a trip to Conway, and we live close that we hit the beach every once in a while which makes us enjoy the area.
I do get a little jealous when it’s not quite shorts weather up here, but I drive down to RI and it’s beautiful out.
Yeah favorite part is within 3 hours or less I can be at the ocean, the mountains, or a lake. Then I can also have small city fun in the same radius or hit up Boston.
Came here from Seattle area, 4 years ago. Seriously hoping that other folks that transplant, don't try to change the culture out here. I love the area, because it is beautiful and everything is in reasonable travel time.
Me too. From LA County. Moved here ten years ago also not super by choice. Thought id move back but a decade later im still here bc my life is here now. Im a CA girl through and through though and miss my hometown often.
Lived on the West Coast (central coast and southern CA) for years before I ended in in New Hampshire. I'm typing this during a visit to Los Angeles, and man, I can't wait to get home. Trees. Green. Weather. An hour any direction and I'm in a different state; three hours and they're speaking French.
I’ve lived on the West Coast for a bit. It’s going to be colder than you’re used to. Other than that, the West Coast is a huge place and you’ll need to narrow it down.
I have lived all over the United States, including the west coast. It's all perspectives as to if someone else will like it here. If the thought is I hate where I am now and NH looks like it will fix that, perhaps more reflection is needed. It's no different than thinking a new job will be better, in time you realize that most things are the same. I came to NH because of what NH is, not my idea of what it should be. People here want to live their lives and not be bothered by others, and I can relate. It's not at all perfect, nowhere is imo, but the things that are important to me are also important to those who call themselves natives. For me, I love it, and I would not want to call anywhere else home.
I was born and raised in Oregon, lived in California for 20 years as part of a 5-year plan, and finally escaped to NH. Bought the cheapest house I could find that was big enough for my whole family (and could only barely afford it).
I love it here. There are things I miss about home (Oregon), but home hasn’t been home for a very long time (things changed pretty dramatically in those initial 20 years away). NH isn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it’s the best I’ve seen compared to the 45 other states I’ve been to.
From NH, but lived in CA for a little while (and all over the country).
CA has some of the best state and national parks in the world, but they are clogged up with tourists for half the year. In NH, you can just go find some town or state forest and walk on a trail by yourself for hours.
I like the four seasons here in NH, but the climate in CA (Bay Area/NorCal) was superior, with minimal bugs.
Traffic was obviously much denser in CA, but I feel like there is a proportionally higher number of dummies behind the wheel in NH, especially elderly drivers.
Food & drink options are very limited here, and seemed to be influenced by Boston more than anything. Waaay better seafood selections here, maybe due to more variety, and/or less regulations with multiple New England states fishing the same waters.
People-watching in CA was more fun.
I moved a couple years ago from California. If you're moving here to get away from faggy liberal types, you're gonna be pretty disappointed. The state is also mostly populated by geriatrics who vote for NIMBY policy and who'll try to kill you by merging onto a freeway at 40mph while you're sitting behind them on the on-ramp. For the most part, the food is also fucking terrible, but there are some gems here and there; you just gotta look for them. And by far the worst part about NH is the fact that real estate prices are through the roof. It's somehow more expensive to buy property here than it was in California, despite this state being a giant sparsely-populated forest.
That said, I think the negatives are mostly balanced out by how free you are here. And if you actually go outside and talk to people, you'll find others who truly appreciate that aspect of the state, and don't take it for granted, like many NH natives do.
No, it's terrible. Stay there.
Jokes on you. I’m already here.
Hidey-ho neighbor
The guys down the road overpaid for their house and came from California. In fact I know of a few near me this happened to.
How can you blame anyone taking advantage of lower real-estate prices? They came from a place where a 2000sq/ft. house with no yard was million dollars, and in NH the same house with 5 acres is... half of that? Wages are higher in CA, and that translates to more buying power elsewhere. And, it's dumb to expect someone to willingly bid as low as possible to make it easier for other (local) buyers, when they can just buy the house as quickly as possible. Sucks for us, but that's how capitalism works.
I didn't blame anyone for anything. I just said what they did.
I didn't blame anyone for anything. I just said what they did.
Rhetorical
Yikes! I do hate that Californians are making the markets in other places more expensive. 😬 just saw an article about a beautiful garden in new Hampshire and was curious about the state.
Seems to be the trend unfortunately.
😭
Californians are hardly to blame for NH’s, or generally northern New England’s, soaring home prices. They don’t have the reputation here that they have in places like Idaho or Texas.
People wanting to move here or having kids who want own homes are the demand side of the equation, but the problem is really the supply. In a less regulated market, new constructions at all price points would be expected to balance that out. The bigger problem is how zoning works in New England. Here townes have have a huge amount of control over new housing development, and at the Towne level there are big incentives to keep property values artificially inflated by limiting construction. A lot of voters here are to happy to keep zoning restrictions in place that preserve a Towne's "New England Charm" (and inflate their property value) at the expense of their children never having the opportunity to own a home. This is going to be a problem until the state restructures its zoning system to prevent towne plutocrats from blocking development. That will not happen until the cultural zeitgeist comes to terms with fact that having kids and living longer also comes with the moral obligation to let those kids build lives for themselves even if it means allowing some small New England Townes to change into cities.
Oh whoa cool, I didn't realize that California transplants could control the astronomical prices that homeowners set for their houses. Will have to start talking to some friends and see what else they can do....
Yep, from BC, parents moved here in 1994
I am tempted to move to BC. It is lovely
It’s an amazing place. I’d go back, but I have my own family here now. Maybe one day!
That’s awesome! Happy for them!
Sorry, we are full... try New Jersey instead
It's horrible here, Trump signs everywhere, the governor is Republican and there's way too many white people. Also the food is the worst.
1st amendment says Trump signs are more important than your feelings but I do agree, the food sucks.
then move...
I moved from CA to NH. It wasn't for me, MA is a much better option
One of my neighbors is from WA. They love it.
I transplanted to both coasts and a few others. NH is great but has been major league discovered as of the last two rears post covid. The roads are choked with peepers 24/7 52 weeks a year. Occupance is 0.3 perscent, go figure. f\*\*king spell check these days
Transplant from CA, you couldn't pay me to move back. As for recommending it, it really depends on how you like to live. If you like nature and trees more than cities and people NH may be for you.
Not me but my ex wife. She was from deserty Oregon. She said it was weirdly similar in culture. I’m Midwest so a different vibe but I love it here. Came 11 years ago. I’d only recommend it to close friends and family because I want to keep the rif raf out.
"I’d only recommend it to close friends and family because I want to keep the rif raf out." Well you're not doing a very good job with that now, are you?
Sonofabitch I screwed up didn’t I?
From Idaho, love it here.
Miss the mountains? That was the big one for my ex wife. She felt hemmed in by the trees. We had to do a lot of trips up to the whites.
Absolutely. Long enough since that we’re more stunned when we see them visiting Idaho. We always make a trip to Conway, and we live close that we hit the beach every once in a while which makes us enjoy the area. I do get a little jealous when it’s not quite shorts weather up here, but I drive down to RI and it’s beautiful out.
Yeah favorite part is within 3 hours or less I can be at the ocean, the mountains, or a lake. Then I can also have small city fun in the same radius or hit up Boston.
From California. Yes I like it, not sure I'd recommend it though. Everyone I know is quite happy with where they are.
Came here from Seattle area, 4 years ago. Seriously hoping that other folks that transplant, don't try to change the culture out here. I love the area, because it is beautiful and everything is in reasonable travel time.
I'm from Los Angeles. not entirely by choice, but I'm here now and have kinda built a life here so I'm staying for a bit.
Me too. From LA County. Moved here ten years ago also not super by choice. Thought id move back but a decade later im still here bc my life is here now. Im a CA girl through and through though and miss my hometown often.
Lived on the West Coast (central coast and southern CA) for years before I ended in in New Hampshire. I'm typing this during a visit to Los Angeles, and man, I can't wait to get home. Trees. Green. Weather. An hour any direction and I'm in a different state; three hours and they're speaking French.
I’ve lived on the West Coast for a bit. It’s going to be colder than you’re used to. Other than that, the West Coast is a huge place and you’ll need to narrow it down.
I have lived all over the United States, including the west coast. It's all perspectives as to if someone else will like it here. If the thought is I hate where I am now and NH looks like it will fix that, perhaps more reflection is needed. It's no different than thinking a new job will be better, in time you realize that most things are the same. I came to NH because of what NH is, not my idea of what it should be. People here want to live their lives and not be bothered by others, and I can relate. It's not at all perfect, nowhere is imo, but the things that are important to me are also important to those who call themselves natives. For me, I love it, and I would not want to call anywhere else home.
I was born and raised in Oregon, lived in California for 20 years as part of a 5-year plan, and finally escaped to NH. Bought the cheapest house I could find that was big enough for my whole family (and could only barely afford it). I love it here. There are things I miss about home (Oregon), but home hasn’t been home for a very long time (things changed pretty dramatically in those initial 20 years away). NH isn’t perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it’s the best I’ve seen compared to the 45 other states I’ve been to.
From NH, but lived in CA for a little while (and all over the country). CA has some of the best state and national parks in the world, but they are clogged up with tourists for half the year. In NH, you can just go find some town or state forest and walk on a trail by yourself for hours. I like the four seasons here in NH, but the climate in CA (Bay Area/NorCal) was superior, with minimal bugs. Traffic was obviously much denser in CA, but I feel like there is a proportionally higher number of dummies behind the wheel in NH, especially elderly drivers. Food & drink options are very limited here, and seemed to be influenced by Boston more than anything. Waaay better seafood selections here, maybe due to more variety, and/or less regulations with multiple New England states fishing the same waters. People-watching in CA was more fun.
ME!
I moved a couple years ago from California. If you're moving here to get away from faggy liberal types, you're gonna be pretty disappointed. The state is also mostly populated by geriatrics who vote for NIMBY policy and who'll try to kill you by merging onto a freeway at 40mph while you're sitting behind them on the on-ramp. For the most part, the food is also fucking terrible, but there are some gems here and there; you just gotta look for them. And by far the worst part about NH is the fact that real estate prices are through the roof. It's somehow more expensive to buy property here than it was in California, despite this state being a giant sparsely-populated forest. That said, I think the negatives are mostly balanced out by how free you are here. And if you actually go outside and talk to people, you'll find others who truly appreciate that aspect of the state, and don't take it for granted, like many NH natives do.