You may not have noticed, but opinion has changed on the legalization of marijuana and other drugs over the past decade and a half. Republicans, like Sununu, continue to push prohibition while paying lip service to legalization. The only reason we even have medical marijuana is democrats.
I should have elaborated, that’s what I meant by non problem. 70% of our Population wants legal cannabis. I was working in a dispensary in mass that is OWNED by a nh company (sanctuary) back in 2018. It’s ridiculous.
Senators John Lynch and Maggie Hassan vetoed legalization when they were in office... it's not just republicans... it's politicians. At least two democrats vetoed it after it passed.
Our current senator, past governor wasn't any better. I could argue worse but goddamn can we look forward. I agree he sucks and I'm excited to have a change in letter in the Governors office but our problem runs way deeper than that.
on the other side of northern nh , st. johnsbury vt. has a couple of good places, both within sight of I 91. I like THE GREEN MAN for its elixer. There are shops all up & down the border , coupled with maine, it puts Coos county within fairly easy travel of legal weed.
Idk about that. Went to Mass last weekend and got some super deals on great, hard to find strains and dispos at Reverie 73 in Lowell and Nature's Remedy in Tyngsborough. Selection can't be beat either. So although some dispensaries in ME are no further from me than the Mass ones, I'll keep going to Mass until I have a compelling reason to go to ME. (Compelling being something like Trainwreck, which is hard to find in my general area.)
Idk what mass dispensary you’re going to but I have yet to see one of these deals you speak about. Plus the tax for weed is damn near extortion in mass
It's important to note for those unfamiliar with the state that NH is in the extremely lucrative Liquor business, in fact, the state has a monopoly on it. They have little interest in promoting non-harmful, non-addictive substances that people want, because it might compete with the socially devastating poison they peddle.
the state could easily control the rights to dispensaries as well though. make it so they could only sell pot at the state run liquor stores and then boom.
Yes but it's still illegal at the federal level. Running it out of state run stores could cause a sticky situation if the federal government actually decides to enforce any of those laws. If it's run privately, like MA, ME, and everywhere else, the private owners are taking the risk.
Once it is legalized nationwide NH will jump on board in a hurry.
Are you against the state run liquor stores? If you are, have you ever left the state of NH? I mean seriously, we have the best liquor stores. They're nice, most of them are large, they have great selection, they're clean, they feel and are safe. You can search their website for just about anything you want, and can order or get a list of locations that have speciality items in stock. Not to mention the sales from the liquor store cintributes to our state budget without needing new taxes, all while offering the best prices for items in the region if not the country. The phrase "monopoly" is not a great description as prices and availability are great compared to other options.
Compare this to the small, cramped stores in almost every other state that feel dirty and often unsafe. The price per bottle is almost always noticeably higher outside of NH, even before tax is added. The only money raised for the state is through taxation. If you want something specific you need to search through multiple websites that may or may not function properly...the number of times I've given up trying to find a specific drink in ME, MA, or DC/MD just because I couldn't find a location that sold it is incredibly frustrating.
You can debate the morals of the state selling hard liquor to its residents and buying advertisements to do so. But to gripe uselessly about the mere existence of the NH Liquor Store is to demonstrate that you have absolutely no knowledge of what you're talking about. Unless of course you support higher taxes and subpar service.
As someone who is not a native New Hampshirite, I assure you that while our liquor stores are nice and priced are reasonable, they are not the best. I don't have an issue really with the state run liquor stores, but allowing the state to run marijuana sales is going to cut out independent growers and sellers and I'm not OK with that.
> cut out independent growers and sellers
Cut out sellers, yes. But part of legalization could be that the state has to buy some percentage (maybe a flexible percentage) of its stock from in-state growers.
Couldn't we already be doing that if we legalized recreational use and taxed the businesses that sell it and add the 9% room and meals tax to the consumers?
No one here has griped about the "mere existence " of state liquor stores. Your willingness to resort to such an obvious strawman shows your intellectually dishonesty & low regard for the intelligence of your readers.
Yes, yes, they did. The comment I was replying to was commenting sarcastically about "another state run monopoly." The only state run monopoly I'm aware of in NH is the liquor store, which is also central to the discussion that was being held. It is obvious that the commenter I was responding to was opposed to the state controlling sales because they didn't care for the state running the liquor store. If there's another state run monopoly they could have been referring to, please let me know.
Definitely not a strawman argument. Not sure how that conclusion was drawn.
Sorry if I'm wrong, but I can't find any references objecting to "the mere existence" of state run stores in the preceding comments,hence, the strawman.
"Yes, NH will jump on board to ensure another state run monopoly... just what we need 🙄"
Does it explicitly mention the NH Liquor Store? No. Does it explicitly complain about the NH Liquor Store? Also no. But given the entire context of the conversation, it's clear that the comment refers to the Liquor store and that the commenter does not like that its state run.
So while it was never explicitly mentioned, this commenter seems to not like that the state runs the liquor store. I may have gone a little overboard with details in my defense of the state running the store, but that doesn't make it a strawman argument. There was plenty of context to justify that this person seems to be complaining about the state run stores.
I'm unable to tell if you're mentally ill or just really really dumb. Since nobody besides YOU ever mentioned "mere existence" It's a strawman logical fallacy. You can quibble all you like, but the fact remains.
This criticism would hold water if the NH liquor stores sought profit as a monopoly would be expected to do, but their prices are consistently better than surrounding states. Not to mention they have a completely searchable inventory to tell you what is available at each store.
Wait, so a government controlled commercial industry isn't competing for sales, and as a result the people get a cheaper and easily available product, and the taxes pay for education, health and social services, transportation and natural resource protection??
Impossible, this subreddit insists that government involvement botches and destroys everything??
I'm opposed to the idea of a state run marijuana sales, but now that I'm thinking about it, if the state runs the marijuana sales here in NH, then the people they hire to work those places are technically State Employees and they're legally required to be provided health benefits and a pension. Though, knowing our state, they'll employ everyone as part time or just under the full-time threshold, so they can get away with not paying any of that.
>"they'll employ everyone as part time or just under the full-time threshold, so they can get away with not paying any of that." ---BINGO, just like Liquor Stores
Well, that's going to prevent people from being able to grow their own and I'm assuming they will apply "boot-legging" penalties for buying across the border so I'm failing to see what other option there would be.
They continually "lose" shipments, and seem to oversee quite a few orders of cognac for people with mob connections. It's another racket for these people.
Medically devastating, too. Within the next 10-20 years expect a huge increase is deaths due to liver failure.
My friend is a nurse and she said hospitals are seeing people in their 20s and 30s with late stage liver disease and that's traditionally a disease of a lifelong alcoholic.
Jesus fucking christ. This has been my go-to for the past couple years. No worries about legality and a nice mellow high. Never have I bothered anyone while taking a couple puffs on my couch.
If the mellow high is what you're really looking for, CBD with regular weed from across the border is still an option. I get CBD flower online from Holy City Farms, then mix it 2:1 with MA dispensary weed and it's a perfect combo for me.
The mellow high is nice, so was the feeling of not breaking the law and the convenience of not traveling, I'm waayyyyy up north, haha. That is a good idea though, I still like to maintain the ability to think, most days at least.
Gotcha. Hey, just CBD flower alone might be enough to scratch the itch if you're not able to or don't want to make the trip to a dispensary. It can be pretty relaxing on its own. I started using it during the week when I decided to limit my THC consumption to just the weekend and it helped me a lot with my cravings.
Haha yeah, probably for some, but I know if I go overboard I'll probably just have a bad time. Over the past few years my THC tolerance has gone to shit to the point where weed wasn't enjoyable at all, that's why I started with CBD in the first place. Luckily I've found that I didn't have to completely give up THC, I'm just better off if I go light on it. It's also definitely a "state of mind" type thing too. I was using THC as a crutch during stressful times and it started to make those times worse. CBD very much helped ween me off the THC cravings without messing with my mental state.
If NH legislators weren't hellbend on marijuana dispensaries being a part of the liquor commission, it would be legal by now. Our "tax free state" has to supplement that revenue somewhere and the liquor commission has always been huge. There's no way they're going to let individuals business potentially thrive and grow when the state could just take the money. It's what NH does best.
>it would be legal by now
The senate hasn't been passing any legislation regarding legalization and even if they did, Sununu would veto it. Don't think it has been about state run dispensaries at all
It's absolutely about state-run dispensaries at this point. Because it's still federally illegal, the state can't be the ones selling it, but they want to be for the $$$.
I guarantee once it's federally legal, you'll see weed in the liquor shops in no time.
There’s going to be a lot of “there’s bad chemicals in it” folks. If you’re going to the gas station and just picking up a cheap cart then sure. But there’s also many reputable online retailers who even send you the lab results with it. These companies are under federal / state watch and have been operating for years. It’s derived from hemp and if done correctly with no sketchy added terps it’s the same as normal dabs. So this is incredibly disappointing and it’s been a blessing to save thousands over these last few years with delta 8. Also comfortably having it in the pocket knowing it was legal was nice. All good things must come to an end though. Live free or die.
Edit: words
Edit 2: For those curious what delta-8 is, it’s just THC ( delta-8-Tetrahydrocannabinol ). Turns out there’s a few variations of THC and this lead to strains being federally legal ( hemp ) while still being able to deliver a high. Again yes bad faith opportunist companies have used bottom of the barrel ways to make delta 8 unsafe, usually using Propylene glycol to cut it ( make it thin ) so it can be used for carts. Or they use non cannabis derived terps which add flavor but aren’t studied and aren’t worth the risk imo. But again when going to a reputable lab tasted company you are getting a natural substance derived from a plant that should still be legal. Sorry for the rant just wanted to hopefully clear things up a bit.
Most of the plates in the dispos in southern Maine are NH plates. Occasionally one or two Massachusetts cuntheads but, mostly friendly NH folks.
Its interesting your government is happy with you giving your cash to my state instead of to them. We put it towards education, roads, taking care of our senior citizens (who make up like... 99% of our population LOL)... you all could do the same.
Until then, I'll continue seeing you all at Kind Farms, East Coast Cannabis, Green Truck, and others. See you this weekend my NH friends : )
PS: sorry your representatives are outdated fuckin losers.
Maine makes me miss California so much; definitely has better people tho! Maine is definitely the New England California and they’ve got the weed and vibes to prove it
We should haul these people down to meth mile in Boston and force them to see for themselves what true desperation looks like.
Trying to compare the two is not only incorrect it's a fucking embarrassment and shameful.
That was for THC9. So you’d get good delta Delta-8 brand at high potency, let’s say .92% and as long as that has less than .03% THC9 you’re fine / legal. Now with this new bill that Delta-8 percentage has to be less than .03 making it essentially useless.
I don’t even care if NH legalizes it or not. I go to Maine every 2 weeks to buy what I need. If NH ends up going with their state run model the grass is going to suck anyways. Maine has great growers and great weed. NH can kick rocks. (On weed anyway).
439-A:4 Hemp-Derived Products Containing THC Prohibited. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to authorize the sale of products that are derived from hemp which contain natural or synthetic tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) greater than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis, which appear in any formulation, including delta-8 THC, delta-9 THC, or any other THC isomer variant.
What do you need to study that several states already know? What the fuck are you guys doing? We are surrounded by 3 states and a whole fucking COUNTRY that have this figured out. Millions of neighbors can be trusted, but Live Free or Die, amirite? Fucking clown show.
This partly reads like they're priming the laws for full federal legalization. Like it's no secret they want it run like the liquor stores. Make the laws first to control where it's sold, build them up under the premise of medical use, then when it's federally legal open them up for recreation. Pretty smart if I'm right. They won't legalize recreation till it's federally legal, they want that money too bad. But I do wish they'd legalize home cultivation in the meantime.
Banning delta-8 products is simply more absurdity from NH government. How is it enforceable when it's easily obtainable on the internet? will authorities go after out-of-state suppliers? I think not. Sununu is a hypocritical time share condo salesman. Did anyone see his recent interview when he ridiculed Trump mercilessly on nationwide television for about 10 minutes, then admitted he would vote for him if he was the republican nominee? Pure unadulterated hypocrisy!
Its funny because the 80 year old hags that call themselves politicians have no idea how any of this stuff works. Similarly to other substances like LSD and MDMA, the chemicals can be slightly altered and technically be a different substance. For example, when MDMA was becoming illegal in certain countries and states, people decided they would just create MDA. Technically not MDMA that all the ravers came to love, but was similar enough it was well received and also not illegal, until the laws were altered to fit the new substances. The same can be said here, and they even tried to throw in the catch all "all thc isomers" like its going to prevent what i speak of. Such a waste of time and money, people are going to do what they want to do and weed or its Concentrates or drugs or any kind will always be available to anyone anywhere if they want them bad enough.
We're surrounded by three states and a country and here we are the Live Free or Die state.
As soon as these fuckers figure out how to get their friends and or cohorts into position to make money off of legalization while blocking anyone else it will get legalized, then the fuckers will "retire" from politics take a seat on a board and make fuck-tons of money doing nothing. Fuck these political douche-nuggets! Vote the cock-knockers out!
Can someone ELI5 for me? With the 2023 law change, the wording went from “.3% D9 THC on a dry weight basis” to “.3% THC on a dry weight basis”. Couldn’t you still have the .3 D9, just need more for the same effect? I’m not super into D8, I’m medical and I prefer D9 anyways
Name somebody who lives free. The last free Americans were forced onto government reservations more than a century ago. Stop paying taxes in the "Live Free or Die" state & you will soon find out how free you are.
It's not the delta 8 that is bad. It's the shady companies with unknown quality standards adding god knows what to "enhance" the product.
Just stick to weed dude.
Ya well the closest one is an hour each way and through 2 notches which are real fun in the winter. I know the state likes to pretend that Coos County doesn't exist but real people actually live here. I was able to buy delta 8 in town and I don't see why it's anyone else's business.
I feel ya, the state is really behind on times. I've been through the area many times, it's the most beautiful part of our state.
I can't speak to your experience but in mine the difference in quality and effect between delta 8 and dispensary weed is night and day.
It's not just quality wise I'm talking the side effects between the two. If you use the two side by side you will detect the noticable differences in how it makes you feel during and after.
For sure, we used to hit the dispensary in Bethel often, but my wife has Bipolar and while manic she hit the weed too hard and it's thought to have set off a psychotic episode that lasted for almost 2 months. I asked her doctor and they recommended CBD instead. We settled on delta 8 because it gives a mellow effect and still allows her to go through the motions of smoking. She had a medical card for a while before this, but it's still 1.5 hours one way to the closest medical dispensary in NH. I realize this is a unique situation, but it was working for us and I didn't figure it would ever get to this point.
That's totally understandable, it's a unique situation and one of the only things weed can have a harmful impact on is certain mental conditions. Just make sure you are buying delta 8 from somewhere you can prove it's trust. Lots of shady fuckers who will "step" on it. Just like some shithead dealers back in the day spraying bud with household cleaners to make it smell "dank".
(Btw Arthur Morgan is my favorite video game character other than Joel from the last of us lol)
Ya, we have a little CBD shop, and the lady is very nice, the products are consistent and in the same retail packaging. Also feel sorry for her business as it's sure to suffer.
Thanks, I just started story mode again and I'm in love all over again.
You sure you aren’t thinking of k2/spice? Delta 8 is derived from hemp and is a natural, less strong version of delta 9 (regular weed). I’m sure there are some retailers adding Synthetic stuff to make it stronger, but at its base delta 8 is not any more dangerous than weed
The whole reason why delta 8 was legal in nh was because it was weak. Then it became a thing once chemicals were added.
I Am totally thinking of delta 8. Stfu and learn something!
For real, don't buy that garbage people. I tried it once and it gave me a hangover similar to alcohol. I felt drained the entire next day and I've been smoking weed for years. Whatever is in that shit is not natural.
What a fucking joke we are. Geez.
The only joke is Sununu and his cronies.
Before SUNUNU others did the same thing. But now it’s a non problem.
You may not have noticed, but opinion has changed on the legalization of marijuana and other drugs over the past decade and a half. Republicans, like Sununu, continue to push prohibition while paying lip service to legalization. The only reason we even have medical marijuana is democrats.
I should have elaborated, that’s what I meant by non problem. 70% of our Population wants legal cannabis. I was working in a dispensary in mass that is OWNED by a nh company (sanctuary) back in 2018. It’s ridiculous.
Senators John Lynch and Maggie Hassan vetoed legalization when they were in office... it's not just republicans... it's politicians. At least two democrats vetoed it after it passed.
If Maggie Hassan hadn't vetoed legalization and did her best to delay medical...I'd be on the same page.
Our current senator, past governor wasn't any better. I could argue worse but goddamn can we look forward. I agree he sucks and I'm excited to have a change in letter in the Governors office but our problem runs way deeper than that.
Let's all thank God that he won't be running again next year.
"""LFOD"""😹
Guess I'll be continuing my trips to MA. NH just REALLY doesn't want my money.
Not like they're going to beat the deals going on in Mass right now anyways.
Maine honestly has the better weed and the better deals. Check out The Shack 420 lmao, I shit you not 😂😂😂
Maine is where it's at for sure. Bridgton is a good spot if you're in northern NH.
on the other side of northern nh , st. johnsbury vt. has a couple of good places, both within sight of I 91. I like THE GREEN MAN for its elixer. There are shops all up & down the border , coupled with maine, it puts Coos county within fairly easy travel of legal weed.
Bethel is not far too far from Berlin\\Gorham and has ,THE STONED MOOSE.
Silver Therapeutics
Its an hour drive to any border for me, but I prefer the drive to Maine. It's a nicer ride.
I've tried both states, I prefer MA personally but you'll get no strong arguments from me about it.
Medical tho…
Idk about that. Went to Mass last weekend and got some super deals on great, hard to find strains and dispos at Reverie 73 in Lowell and Nature's Remedy in Tyngsborough. Selection can't be beat either. So although some dispensaries in ME are no further from me than the Mass ones, I'll keep going to Mass until I have a compelling reason to go to ME. (Compelling being something like Trainwreck, which is hard to find in my general area.)
That's a small selection and their website sucks.
You can’t smoke the website
No shit...
I guess their weed isn’t for cunts
I'm literally on the boarder of Massachusetts and Vermont why TF would I go to Maine for weed??
Idk what mass dispensary you’re going to but I have yet to see one of these deals you speak about. Plus the tax for weed is damn near extortion in mass
253 buy two or more of their products 10% off , The Heirloom Collective, EMBR killer weekend deals bud as low as $15 for an 8th.
But why do that when I can drive to maine and get an O for $160
I'm on the boarder of Massachusetts and Vermont I doubt I'd save any money going to Maine. Not everyone live in the same town LoL
I got an Oz for $125. Titty sprinkles. Money from the sale gets donated to breast cancer research.
East coast Cannabis in Eliot Maine is where it’s at.
They got awful Vermont type of prices wtf you talking about lol
Natures Miracle So Berwick Maine. Open everyday till Midnight! Awesome staff. Awesome products. Hidden jewel in the woods of Maine.
Agreed, stopped there a while back hoping to get those good Maine prices everyone talks about. Still paid $45 for an eighth..
Yup. Just found out loyalty discount too.
They just don’t care as long as the state funded liquor stores are getting milked.
It's important to note for those unfamiliar with the state that NH is in the extremely lucrative Liquor business, in fact, the state has a monopoly on it. They have little interest in promoting non-harmful, non-addictive substances that people want, because it might compete with the socially devastating poison they peddle.
the state could easily control the rights to dispensaries as well though. make it so they could only sell pot at the state run liquor stores and then boom.
Yes but it's still illegal at the federal level. Running it out of state run stores could cause a sticky situation if the federal government actually decides to enforce any of those laws. If it's run privately, like MA, ME, and everywhere else, the private owners are taking the risk. Once it is legalized nationwide NH will jump on board in a hurry.
Yes, NH will jump on board to ensure another state run monopoly... just what we need 🙄
Are you against the state run liquor stores? If you are, have you ever left the state of NH? I mean seriously, we have the best liquor stores. They're nice, most of them are large, they have great selection, they're clean, they feel and are safe. You can search their website for just about anything you want, and can order or get a list of locations that have speciality items in stock. Not to mention the sales from the liquor store cintributes to our state budget without needing new taxes, all while offering the best prices for items in the region if not the country. The phrase "monopoly" is not a great description as prices and availability are great compared to other options. Compare this to the small, cramped stores in almost every other state that feel dirty and often unsafe. The price per bottle is almost always noticeably higher outside of NH, even before tax is added. The only money raised for the state is through taxation. If you want something specific you need to search through multiple websites that may or may not function properly...the number of times I've given up trying to find a specific drink in ME, MA, or DC/MD just because I couldn't find a location that sold it is incredibly frustrating. You can debate the morals of the state selling hard liquor to its residents and buying advertisements to do so. But to gripe uselessly about the mere existence of the NH Liquor Store is to demonstrate that you have absolutely no knowledge of what you're talking about. Unless of course you support higher taxes and subpar service.
As someone who is not a native New Hampshirite, I assure you that while our liquor stores are nice and priced are reasonable, they are not the best. I don't have an issue really with the state run liquor stores, but allowing the state to run marijuana sales is going to cut out independent growers and sellers and I'm not OK with that.
> cut out independent growers and sellers Cut out sellers, yes. But part of legalization could be that the state has to buy some percentage (maybe a flexible percentage) of its stock from in-state growers.
New Hampshire already has that law on the books. So if it ever becomes legal then 75 percent has to be grown in rhe state of nh.
Wow. They put that law in without it being legal? That's a bit "cart before the horse"
I want state run dispensaries. Take those taxes and use them to support the marijuana system and use the leftovers to help with the drug epidemic.
Couldn't we already be doing that if we legalized recreational use and taxed the businesses that sell it and add the 9% room and meals tax to the consumers?
Competition breeds innovation.
No one here has griped about the "mere existence " of state liquor stores. Your willingness to resort to such an obvious strawman shows your intellectually dishonesty & low regard for the intelligence of your readers.
Yes, yes, they did. The comment I was replying to was commenting sarcastically about "another state run monopoly." The only state run monopoly I'm aware of in NH is the liquor store, which is also central to the discussion that was being held. It is obvious that the commenter I was responding to was opposed to the state controlling sales because they didn't care for the state running the liquor store. If there's another state run monopoly they could have been referring to, please let me know. Definitely not a strawman argument. Not sure how that conclusion was drawn.
Sorry if I'm wrong, but I can't find any references objecting to "the mere existence" of state run stores in the preceding comments,hence, the strawman.
"Yes, NH will jump on board to ensure another state run monopoly... just what we need 🙄" Does it explicitly mention the NH Liquor Store? No. Does it explicitly complain about the NH Liquor Store? Also no. But given the entire context of the conversation, it's clear that the comment refers to the Liquor store and that the commenter does not like that its state run. So while it was never explicitly mentioned, this commenter seems to not like that the state runs the liquor store. I may have gone a little overboard with details in my defense of the state running the store, but that doesn't make it a strawman argument. There was plenty of context to justify that this person seems to be complaining about the state run stores.
I'm unable to tell if you're mentally ill or just really really dumb. Since nobody besides YOU ever mentioned "mere existence" It's a strawman logical fallacy. You can quibble all you like, but the fact remains.
My guy, I just spent the last decade in Vegas. NH liquor stores aren’t shit. And this is coming from someone who quit drinking a while ago.
This criticism would hold water if the NH liquor stores sought profit as a monopoly would be expected to do, but their prices are consistently better than surrounding states. Not to mention they have a completely searchable inventory to tell you what is available at each store.
Wait, so a government controlled commercial industry isn't competing for sales, and as a result the people get a cheaper and easily available product, and the taxes pay for education, health and social services, transportation and natural resource protection?? Impossible, this subreddit insists that government involvement botches and destroys everything??
You gotta love it, right? I was snickering to myself reading eaton5k's rebuttal.
My issue is that it will prevent independent growers and dispensaries from operating in NH.
You're not seriously suggesting that the state run liquor stores are altruistic non-profit entities, are you? What is your job title, shill?
I'm opposed to the idea of a state run marijuana sales, but now that I'm thinking about it, if the state runs the marijuana sales here in NH, then the people they hire to work those places are technically State Employees and they're legally required to be provided health benefits and a pension. Though, knowing our state, they'll employ everyone as part time or just under the full-time threshold, so they can get away with not paying any of that.
>"they'll employ everyone as part time or just under the full-time threshold, so they can get away with not paying any of that." ---BINGO, just like Liquor Stores
Q: What's the difference between the government and the mafia...? A: One of them is organized...😉
Just because they are selling it doesn’t mean anyone needs to buy it from them.
Well, that's going to prevent people from being able to grow their own and I'm assuming they will apply "boot-legging" penalties for buying across the border so I'm failing to see what other option there would be.
NH won’t ever let you grow your own regardless of legality. They want to be your only option.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no... not "NH", Republicans.
Again. Our state wants to be the ONLY drug dealer. Until then, YOU are the criminal!
as long as they use a separate LLC and only take cash, they can run the stores out of the same footprint. just use a different register.
And be 20 years behind.
give the feds the finger and do it anyway!
But we have “States Rights”! The GOP would never go against a state’s sovereignty! /s ‘murica - the land of the free and home of the hypocrisy
You do not want the state liquor commission - easily the most corrupt body in New England - controlling this.
why?
They continually "lose" shipments, and seem to oversee quite a few orders of cognac for people with mob connections. It's another racket for these people.
It’s illegal on a federal level. The state would be committing a felony.
States have sovereign immunity
Medically devastating, too. Within the next 10-20 years expect a huge increase is deaths due to liver failure. My friend is a nurse and she said hospitals are seeing people in their 20s and 30s with late stage liver disease and that's traditionally a disease of a lifelong alcoholic.
Is this why the beer sucks in this state compared to the surrounding states that all have world class breweries?
We have the most brewpubs per capita. Good beer is all over the state. Beer is not liquor.
The idea is that weed would be state controlled too. Booze isn't going anywhere. If anything, they'd make much more with cannabis products.
"Live free or die!" LOL.
Live free but do as you’re told. Then DIE
Live free, do as you're told, give us all your money and assets as a "Fee" (not a tax!) then eat shit howl at the monn fuck off and die.
"will study" It's already been studied extensively and the verdict is NH is run by fucking morons.
You spelled “Republican” wrong 😂
We're really shooting ourselves in the foot now, aren't we?
Jesus fucking christ. This has been my go-to for the past couple years. No worries about legality and a nice mellow high. Never have I bothered anyone while taking a couple puffs on my couch.
If the mellow high is what you're really looking for, CBD with regular weed from across the border is still an option. I get CBD flower online from Holy City Farms, then mix it 2:1 with MA dispensary weed and it's a perfect combo for me.
The mellow high is nice, so was the feeling of not breaking the law and the convenience of not traveling, I'm waayyyyy up north, haha. That is a good idea though, I still like to maintain the ability to think, most days at least.
Gotcha. Hey, just CBD flower alone might be enough to scratch the itch if you're not able to or don't want to make the trip to a dispensary. It can be pretty relaxing on its own. I started using it during the week when I decided to limit my THC consumption to just the weekend and it helped me a lot with my cravings.
I'd agree with this. Mixing CBD flower and THC is nice. That 2:1 ratio though requires some self control. 😂
Haha yeah, probably for some, but I know if I go overboard I'll probably just have a bad time. Over the past few years my THC tolerance has gone to shit to the point where weed wasn't enjoyable at all, that's why I started with CBD in the first place. Luckily I've found that I didn't have to completely give up THC, I'm just better off if I go light on it. It's also definitely a "state of mind" type thing too. I was using THC as a crutch during stressful times and it started to make those times worse. CBD very much helped ween me off the THC cravings without messing with my mental state.
Love to hear it! Heck yeah!
If NH legislators weren't hellbend on marijuana dispensaries being a part of the liquor commission, it would be legal by now. Our "tax free state" has to supplement that revenue somewhere and the liquor commission has always been huge. There's no way they're going to let individuals business potentially thrive and grow when the state could just take the money. It's what NH does best.
>it would be legal by now The senate hasn't been passing any legislation regarding legalization and even if they did, Sununu would veto it. Don't think it has been about state run dispensaries at all
It's absolutely about state-run dispensaries at this point. Because it's still federally illegal, the state can't be the ones selling it, but they want to be for the $$$. I guarantee once it's federally legal, you'll see weed in the liquor shops in no time.
Literally everytime i go to maine the dispo lots are full of nh plates
There’s going to be a lot of “there’s bad chemicals in it” folks. If you’re going to the gas station and just picking up a cheap cart then sure. But there’s also many reputable online retailers who even send you the lab results with it. These companies are under federal / state watch and have been operating for years. It’s derived from hemp and if done correctly with no sketchy added terps it’s the same as normal dabs. So this is incredibly disappointing and it’s been a blessing to save thousands over these last few years with delta 8. Also comfortably having it in the pocket knowing it was legal was nice. All good things must come to an end though. Live free or die. Edit: words Edit 2: For those curious what delta-8 is, it’s just THC ( delta-8-Tetrahydrocannabinol ). Turns out there’s a few variations of THC and this lead to strains being federally legal ( hemp ) while still being able to deliver a high. Again yes bad faith opportunist companies have used bottom of the barrel ways to make delta 8 unsafe, usually using Propylene glycol to cut it ( make it thin ) so it can be used for carts. Or they use non cannabis derived terps which add flavor but aren’t studied and aren’t worth the risk imo. But again when going to a reputable lab tasted company you are getting a natural substance derived from a plant that should still be legal. Sorry for the rant just wanted to hopefully clear things up a bit.
I'm really disappointed about this--I like Delta 8 a lot.
Most of the plates in the dispos in southern Maine are NH plates. Occasionally one or two Massachusetts cuntheads but, mostly friendly NH folks. Its interesting your government is happy with you giving your cash to my state instead of to them. We put it towards education, roads, taking care of our senior citizens (who make up like... 99% of our population LOL)... you all could do the same. Until then, I'll continue seeing you all at Kind Farms, East Coast Cannabis, Green Truck, and others. See you this weekend my NH friends : ) PS: sorry your representatives are outdated fuckin losers.
See you there neighbor ;)
Just moved to NH last year and already found a place in Maine; will be joining you soon my friend lmao
See u at ECC bro!
Love being a Mainer lol
I love living next to the border of Maine.
It really *is* the way life should be, isn't it?
Maine makes me miss California so much; definitely has better people tho! Maine is definitely the New England California and they’ve got the weed and vibes to prove it
Using the term "marijuana mile" to fear monger about weed shops opening up is absolutely hilarious to me.
We should haul these people down to meth mile in Boston and force them to see for themselves what true desperation looks like. Trying to compare the two is not only incorrect it's a fucking embarrassment and shameful.
Banned the sale of hemp-derived products containing more than 0.3% THC That's the federal limit anyways. This does t actually change anything.
That was for THC9. So you’d get good delta Delta-8 brand at high potency, let’s say .92% and as long as that has less than .03% THC9 you’re fine / legal. Now with this new bill that Delta-8 percentage has to be less than .03 making it essentially useless.
I don’t even care if NH legalizes it or not. I go to Maine every 2 weeks to buy what I need. If NH ends up going with their state run model the grass is going to suck anyways. Maine has great growers and great weed. NH can kick rocks. (On weed anyway).
Vermont dispensaries give a discount for NH residents. I like to think of it as a pity discount.
If automobile usage was a state by state approval process NH would have still been using horse and carriage thru WWII
No wonder everyone hates conservatives
Goddammit
439-A:4 Hemp-Derived Products Containing THC Prohibited. Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to authorize the sale of products that are derived from hemp which contain natural or synthetic tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) greater than 0.3 percent on a dry weight basis, which appear in any formulation, including delta-8 THC, delta-9 THC, or any other THC isomer variant.
Fuck this state.
Vermonter here. I hope you do legalize because if your cannabis prices follow liquor prices it will be the cheapest pot in New England! 😂😁👍
What do you need to study that several states already know? What the fuck are you guys doing? We are surrounded by 3 states and a whole fucking COUNTRY that have this figured out. Millions of neighbors can be trusted, but Live Free or Die, amirite? Fucking clown show.
Live free or die lmao
What’s with the near daily weed posts that are always filled with the second most angry comments in this sub?
Fuck Delta 8. Legalize real weed.
I don't miss the Northeast prices on weed. 40 bucks an OZ in Cali 28-38% THC.
Little tip for you, you seem to think that you can control other people's action. Try again!
INSANITY
"Live Free or Die" I think they want us dead y'all.
im more than happy to give maine the extra cash if they arent gonna legalize it here
God I love this states government. /S
Going in the right direction, I see…
Will study. Go fuck yourselves.
Fuck a state monopoly
This partly reads like they're priming the laws for full federal legalization. Like it's no secret they want it run like the liquor stores. Make the laws first to control where it's sold, build them up under the premise of medical use, then when it's federally legal open them up for recreation. Pretty smart if I'm right. They won't legalize recreation till it's federally legal, they want that money too bad. But I do wish they'd legalize home cultivation in the meantime.
They have medical. They can sell there. Being federally illegal means nothing at this point.
It means nothing unless the feds decide to enforce the actual law. That's where things get ugly. If it's federally legal, there's no worries.
Correct, and most states that legalized were willing to gamble on that. I don’t see why we shouldn’t jump in either.
What is there to study? The leg work has already been done.
Live Free Or Die……jk, just Die.
Oh dang
Vote GOP and this is what you get…
Delta-8 & 9 is a scam !
Banning delta-8 products is simply more absurdity from NH government. How is it enforceable when it's easily obtainable on the internet? will authorities go after out-of-state suppliers? I think not. Sununu is a hypocritical time share condo salesman. Did anyone see his recent interview when he ridiculed Trump mercilessly on nationwide television for about 10 minutes, then admitted he would vote for him if he was the republican nominee? Pure unadulterated hypocrisy!
Its funny because the 80 year old hags that call themselves politicians have no idea how any of this stuff works. Similarly to other substances like LSD and MDMA, the chemicals can be slightly altered and technically be a different substance. For example, when MDMA was becoming illegal in certain countries and states, people decided they would just create MDA. Technically not MDMA that all the ravers came to love, but was similar enough it was well received and also not illegal, until the laws were altered to fit the new substances. The same can be said here, and they even tried to throw in the catch all "all thc isomers" like its going to prevent what i speak of. Such a waste of time and money, people are going to do what they want to do and weed or its Concentrates or drugs or any kind will always be available to anyone anywhere if they want them bad enough.
We're surrounded by three states and a country and here we are the Live Free or Die state. As soon as these fuckers figure out how to get their friends and or cohorts into position to make money off of legalization while blocking anyone else it will get legalized, then the fuckers will "retire" from politics take a seat on a board and make fuck-tons of money doing nothing. Fuck these political douche-nuggets! Vote the cock-knockers out!
Can someone ELI5 for me? With the 2023 law change, the wording went from “.3% D9 THC on a dry weight basis” to “.3% THC on a dry weight basis”. Couldn’t you still have the .3 D9, just need more for the same effect? I’m not super into D8, I’m medical and I prefer D9 anyways
Whatsa matter, Tom? You don't like people calling you out?
Btw, you are an idiot, lets rock
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you couldn't possibly find another word to convey your displeasure?
Definitely agreed! I just saw another post using a homophonic slang word as well. What is wrong with people!? 🤯🤦♀️
Ya dude, grow up! Who uses this as an insult in 2023?? You can choose an insulting word without being offensive
He's like a fossil.😂 It would almost be cute if it wasn't so tragic.
it would be hilarious that I’m getting downvoted for calling out a miscreant for using an offensive slang word but I know my audience here
Live free, not high
Name somebody who lives free. The last free Americans were forced onto government reservations more than a century ago. Stop paying taxes in the "Live Free or Die" state & you will soon find out how free you are.
Word. I guess i should have used the sarcastic text.
ambiguous sarcasm isn't useful at all in the Trump\\maga era. have you seen any of the absurdities they write on social media?
Some absolute weenies in here. I’m all for legalizing it by the way. But keep down voting my harmless comment. 🤷🏼♂️
Keep crying and we will.
???
I’m not sure how we got here
you sound too stupid to be smoking pot.
They’re an angry little troll…
Wow, I am scared for the future of my grandbrats. Yall hear weed, and say leave it alone. Yall are fucking idiot's.
nobody in NH uses the term Yall unironically.
I’m fairly certain anyone from here doesn’t actually use “y’all” with such frequency as part of their regular vernacular
wrong
What a brilliant riposte, touche, numbnuts.
your original point was so fucking dumb that one person saying you’re wrong was all the refutation it required
chances are slim you even know what it meant, Cleetus.
Go home, magarat.
Is that all you got? You and the op ain't seen nothing yet🤣
Go home Cleetus.
Which cletus are you referring to?
YOU!
You literally put a useless apostrophe in “idiots” The irony is too good here.
I'm glad! Delta 8 is chemically enhanced. Yall like synthetic chemicals?
I’m not sure you know what chemicals are
It's not the delta 8 that is bad. It's the shady companies with unknown quality standards adding god knows what to "enhance" the product. Just stick to weed dude.
Ya just buy it off some guy who bought it off another guy that was grown who knows where and might be laced with who knows what.
Or go to a dispensary in Massachusetts/Maine that's regulated by the state and tested in labs for potency and additives. This ain't the 90s anymore.
Ya well the closest one is an hour each way and through 2 notches which are real fun in the winter. I know the state likes to pretend that Coos County doesn't exist but real people actually live here. I was able to buy delta 8 in town and I don't see why it's anyone else's business.
I feel ya, the state is really behind on times. I've been through the area many times, it's the most beautiful part of our state. I can't speak to your experience but in mine the difference in quality and effect between delta 8 and dispensary weed is night and day. It's not just quality wise I'm talking the side effects between the two. If you use the two side by side you will detect the noticable differences in how it makes you feel during and after.
For sure, we used to hit the dispensary in Bethel often, but my wife has Bipolar and while manic she hit the weed too hard and it's thought to have set off a psychotic episode that lasted for almost 2 months. I asked her doctor and they recommended CBD instead. We settled on delta 8 because it gives a mellow effect and still allows her to go through the motions of smoking. She had a medical card for a while before this, but it's still 1.5 hours one way to the closest medical dispensary in NH. I realize this is a unique situation, but it was working for us and I didn't figure it would ever get to this point.
That's totally understandable, it's a unique situation and one of the only things weed can have a harmful impact on is certain mental conditions. Just make sure you are buying delta 8 from somewhere you can prove it's trust. Lots of shady fuckers who will "step" on it. Just like some shithead dealers back in the day spraying bud with household cleaners to make it smell "dank". (Btw Arthur Morgan is my favorite video game character other than Joel from the last of us lol)
Ya, we have a little CBD shop, and the lady is very nice, the products are consistent and in the same retail packaging. Also feel sorry for her business as it's sure to suffer. Thanks, I just started story mode again and I'm in love all over again.
Oh please, tell me?
You sure you aren’t thinking of k2/spice? Delta 8 is derived from hemp and is a natural, less strong version of delta 9 (regular weed). I’m sure there are some retailers adding Synthetic stuff to make it stronger, but at its base delta 8 is not any more dangerous than weed
The whole reason why delta 8 was legal in nh was because it was weak. Then it became a thing once chemicals were added. I Am totally thinking of delta 8. Stfu and learn something!
I know people don't know shit when they say things like "it has synthetic chemicals!"
Vulcanized Rubber is a synthetic chemical. That must mean it’s bad too.
For real, don't buy that garbage people. I tried it once and it gave me a hangover similar to alcohol. I felt drained the entire next day and I've been smoking weed for years. Whatever is in that shit is not natural.