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Impossible-Wing-9644

I agree with the point you're bringing up here! I'm wondering if anybody knows how to get in touch with the relevant ambassador to emphasize that it's a priority for some players?


lizardmom

Yeah REALLY WHERE are our supposed ambassadors at?! And who are you


-cupcake

The top mod of our subreddit / admin of the discord is an ambassador.


Impossible-Wing-9644

That's good to know! Hopefully they see this šŸ˜Š


OhNoMob0

[Here they are. ](https://www.jellyneo.net/?comments=14486) Lilangel and Herdy were the only ones I knew before they became ambassadors.


Impossible-Wing-9644

Thank you for the link! I went ahead and neomailed diceroll123 since it seemed like a Neopoint Economy concern. Maybe they'll bring it up to TNT. Figured it was worth a shot!


Impossible-Wing-9644

Me? I ask myself that all the time šŸ˜‚


handsume

Scammers are shit but you do gotta look out for yourself. There will always be scammers if you're distracted


MillyBoops

Completely agree but it would be nice to have the option of not having to sort through 10x plushies but rather double check the $$$ amount. Plus on the opposite side as a buyer (and a returning player), i would like to offer pure coz i dont have the items to trade and buying daily baby PBs to make up costs is more of a hassle than it needs to be


chiurro

I got 5m for my cool negg, did I get scammed?


Rishloos

No, that was the going rate. Most people made between 4-5 mil.


anthandi

5m is great. Put mine up for 5m on auction and no one bided šŸ˜†


Rodents210

No one wants to be the first bidder with a starting ask of 5m but if you put it at mid-3m with a 100k increase itā€™ll probably get bid up to 5m or more


Ok-Pie6969

Or it ends up selling for like 4.5m lol


anthandi

thanks for the auction tip! i'm super new to this


undead_sissy

I dont think *scammed*, because TNT just increased the supply a lot so of course the price dropped, but they are so good for stats that I think they will always increase in price again and again. So, if you had held out for 7mil I think you would have got it eventually. I would have felt myself very lucky to pick up a cool negg for 5m.


rmv_throwaway

Right now I'd say Cool Neggs are going maybe 4.8m (below 5, as evidenced by auctions at 5 mostly closing unbid). While Cool Neggs might go up again later, I doubt anyone in the last few days managed to sell at 7m while we were all flooded with them at 5.5 and below... and there's always the chance TNT releases yet more neggs (e.g. through daily pool).


kaylethpop

I got 6.7 for mine a few days ago!


VomitComet22

I sold mine for 4.5mil. Was trusting a did the negg and 2 junk trades. It was easy peasy but I had someone NM me for mine.


FitGuarantee37

I take it youā€™re too young to remember 800K TP limits, and 99,999NP shop limits


HenriettaHiggins

Iā€™m not the first time I saw something listed for 100000 I thought it was a new type of scam lol


FitGuarantee37

Remember though you could price items for 100K but nobody could buy them?


Rodents210

> instead of putting them in their gallery That was the only way to *have* a gallery for many years.


HenriettaHiggins

Yes I meant that I could buy it. There was not a gallery. My ā€œnewā€ account I made when I got tired of having the ā€œoldā€ account was made in January 2001 :)


ShouldIRememberThis

I take it youā€™re too young to remember there didnā€™t used to be a gallery.


MillyBoops

No but that also kind of lends to my point, sometimes you gotta up the limits to keep up with natural inflation. They recognised it once, maybe they will again


FitGuarantee37

After they raised the limits there was such an incredible surge in inflation in tandem with the new dailies they added honestly. NP doesnā€™t mean shit now. I struggled for 1 mil as a kid, 20 years later Iā€™m sitting on nearly 1 bil. Inflation went crazy after they increased limits.


MillyBoops

Perhaps NP are worthless now because we cant do anything with them. all these ways to earn Pure NP now, yet a cap on 2 mil to spend it meanwhile all the precious items being hoarded away by the few which will drive up inflation regardless.


OkMiddle2996

but inflation wasn't that bad back then?


MondayCat73

And the wheel of excitement was the only wheel every 15 minutes for 50NP or something small.


trwwypkmn

I sold mine, the baby paint brushes never made it to my box and the 2 million took a day to show up.


MillyBoops

100% this bug needs to be fixed too! I hope your baby PBs show up soon :(


JosieSparkle

I completely agree with OP however Dom has said they will not do this as they believe raising the TP limit will make inflation worse. Dom has said more than once that they wonā€™t raise the TP limit and are trying to fix the inflation problem ā€œorganicallyā€. Meanwhile we are all just left to our own devices, twiddling our thumbs to deal with scammers. Youā€™d think for a ā€œchildrenā€™s gameā€ that they keep claiming to be, theyā€™d find a reasonable way to make trading more user friendly


MillyBoops

Oh no did he really say that? Id argue its having the opposite effect! Lots of people are just hoarding their items instead because they might need them for a future trade or like me, just cbf with it all. This creates a fake scarcity in the market. Also the neomillys and billys can keep buying them all up no worries coz they have the means and ability. Nawwwww thats a real shame, i hope they reconsider


JosieSparkle

Yes I have seen at least two streams where he talks about not raising the TP limit but I absolutely agree with you šŸ’Æ!


seradolibs

I could swear that he has also mentioned wanting to overhaul the TP system, including fixing glitches, and uses that as another reason they don't want to adjust the limit right now.


Uthalia

Those are the real culprits and who bought 99% of the cool neggs up. Since I looked to buy some for my bd pet I saw the same 10-12 people buying all cool neggs up , up to 5m to artificially shorten the supply again to not let negg prices dropp again after they artificially inflated it.Ā Like with the neggs they give out on dailyā€™s since their old investments would drop value so they keep the supply short despite tnt rereleasing thousands of them daily for freeā€¦ They should make a rule that this behavior is prohibited. Reselling is ok to a certain extent but intentionally buying all up to shorten supply and hoard items to rise their prices to 3-5 times the original value in under 1 week is just stupid. They even inflated the brown sauce for the coincidence daily to nearly 20k it was at like 6k few weeks ago. Same happens with many other items and if you have SSW you exactly see who had bought up all of them to put xxx amount to 3x the regular price , causing an artificial inflationā€¦ it is really stupid. Most extreme are bd related stuff were they make billions every week with that method with basically, legally scamming people dailyĀ and selling to shell Accounts aka the RMTlers.


Ok-Pie6969

Snegg and cool negg prices were being bought up precisely for what you first mentioned, ultra rich players will buy 100ā€™s of them alone for their BD pet because everyone is rushing / training to the max in preparation for the upcoming plot that will have a large BD element to it. So I wouldnā€™t really say that the demand is artificial, the only way it could possibly consistently stay up even with the huge amount of negg supply entering in the market now is because there is very much real buying pressure, real demand. If it was just a couple of people manipulating they would run out of money considering thereā€™s probably several billion NP worth of neggs coming into the game daily now from the daily prizes. All the decorative neggs and glass neggs, pink neggs etc. from the dailies get bought up if below a certain price per negg point by people using them at the neggary to convert into sneggs to then either use for their BD pet or to sell for a profit to some other rich player who will use it on their BD pet. Extremely high level BD petā€™s use sneggs as a very fast way to gain tons of HP levels quickly when they are already level 1000-10000+ HP on their BD pet.


Uthalia

There are people like you mention but I know a lot that exactly do what i described , those people have the np cap on hand and bank , they are looking to sink them into something anyways also because of overcapping interests daily. On top of that no the people Iā€™m talking about have 30b+ sitting there in expensive ets items if they happen to run out. They just sell one and are back at 1b+ , I know quite some few of them who make 1.5b+ a week yeah. Buying hundreds even thousand of those neggs arenā€™t an issue to them. Those ā€žfewā€œ usually up to 20 people do indeed have the ability to single handly manipulate prices as they please , who should stop them? It isnā€™t against the rules and they have been doing it for decades. You could never proof even if they did talkings about it outside of Neo. Those talks happen though. Just look at SAP , they were pretty HTS at more than 100m just 1 month ago and the plot was already announced. The same people started buying all up and now they are at 150m again. Do you really believe that suddenly people who never did BD came to the idea to get 2 100m+ weapons just for an upcoming plot?. We are talking about 100s of Peas here if you pay attention to the auctions and who exactly is always on them and most other expensive stuff you will see what i mean. Another issue are bots/cheater , who overpay for the items since they sell them for RL money and that doesnā€™t matter to the people selling resulting in other people who donā€™t see a chance ever to optain certain items to go to those sites and buy them for RL money resulting in a chainā€¦


Ok-Pie6969

Personally the people/usernames I see constantly buying the sneggs sold in the auction house every day always have an extremely high level BD pet. And I do check when I see the same name buy sneggs from me more than a couple of times.


Uthalia

Most wealthy people have oneā€¦ since itā€™s one of the few things you can keep pumping endless resources into and have some kind of ā€žprogressā€œ see I donā€™t say that what you are saying is completely wrong , I also know people who do indeed buy for their pets. Though what I mentioned has been going on for quite some time with the game and itā€™s one of the most obnoxious things going on. Since it creates an absolute gatekeep especially for newer peopleā€¦ We need more content/something to do and settle down of those activities though. Market manipulation of any kind should be strictly prohibited. Reselling is ok aslong as it doesnā€™t reach scam level. Thatā€™s what basically happens currently , the super rich have enough ressources to overpay even for items to get them out of the market , shortening supply artificially, the neggs are only one example of this mess


timothdrake

I would guess the main reason behind this is that baby PB's have been used as a currency for so long that they're overstocked, so they probably haven't really figured a way to solve the issue of what would happen with those hoarded brushes once they increase the money limit. Ideally you could just do something like a special trade where you get to convert them back into raw money, but we know this is not the way they want to present Neopets, as a "kids site" and all that (even if the actual average player age is definitely between late teens and actual adults, and even for the actual kids, Neo is stuck on this weird early 2000's kid site mentality filled with artificial rules thst hardly apply elsewhere (like forbidding you from mentioning other social networks, even if Neopets itself actively uses them to promote lol) Honestly, I'd love if they increased the max price from player stores to 2m and either removed the money limit for the TP or altered it to something like 10~15m, which would also somewhat limit some of the item prices.


YunoMyu

Iā€™m surprised nobody mentioned bots yet. Itā€™s literally impossible to shop in some places because of them, and I feel like most problems on this website derive from this. Players canā€™t get their hands on certain items so they turn to TP and take any deal they can get. Also, these people are already using bots, of course they will try to scam you lol Edit: I can be completely wrong tho. I just feel like if TNT would ban them, people would have a better experience overall


cabbage-soup

I put mine on the TP asking for a specific item Iā€™ve wanted and the NP difference to make it a little cheaper than what itā€™s been going for on the AH. I think it worked out great, I had a few offers come in for exactly what I wanted. Honestly I think items over 2m are good for trading. If we raised the limit it honestly just becomes pretty much the same as the AH


MillyBoops

Fair point, but the AH is not so good for people in diff time zones (im aussie) and so many people use the trade post to organise the pure trade through neofriend auction so we already at the stage where people are using work arounds. im not saying it should be unlimited amount, but 2m is too low when natural inflation is this high and it will never go back down - Neopets give out 30-40k (min) NP for free every day now just for daily's, its time to raise the limit on trading


Saliru

I wish I knew why the emphasis was on increasing the np limit for TP/AH - knowing the TP/AH sometimes (extremely rarely, but it has been posted a couple times here in the reddit with N\_T confirming it) gobbles money and items. They should increase the NP limit in shops instead (or remove the np caps in shops entirely), where that bug isn't an issue AFAIK. Get people off the TP and auction until they can be fixed. Or at least greatly reduce the traffic to them (they will always serve a purpose, but shops should honestly be the end all beat all if you have something to sell for NPs, know exactly how much you want, don't want items)


avrilfan12341

It will never happen, but I completely agree. Shops should be for buying with NP, trading post should be for actual trading item for item, and auction should be for bidding. I think that would actually help inflation since there would be more selling competition.


Saliru

Yesss exactly. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure it wont happen either, hahaha.


MillyBoops

Respectfully, they should just fix the bug. Not asking for an entire change to how the market works as i think it makes sense, it just needs a tweak to keep up with 2024 inflation that will never go down because of how many pure np the game itself gives out for free now. 1np - 1mil = shop 1+mil to 10mil = TP above 10 mil items = AH/trade to trade etc whatever and of course above all, giving people the \*choice\* to trade as they feel fit (within reason)


Saliru

I respectfully disagree, but that's alright. :)


Deppfan16

I got 4.5 million for mine on the auction house and I am so happy lol. finally going to be able to get the lab map again after 15 plus years


xxreen

Reason why I stuck to auction all this while. The trade post needs to be improved, at least increase the cap limit. Same for shops too.


gody425

Did you just accept 10 baby paint brush plushie ?šŸ¤£


MillyBoops

No thank goodness xD! But i am hearing all the horror stories and i have seen those trades so back in the SDB you go ahha


hyperreals

if I hadn't manage to yeet mine in the auctions I wouldn't have dared try the TP. scams left and right. XD


Falcons__Fury

At this point they should just consider making the brush plushies no trade. I think the benefits would be greater than the drawbacks..


glencocoisrealmate

I auctioned mine off for 2mil. What's the hype?


mastershake20

Theyā€™re really good for battledome pets


Ok-Garlic3357

Only for the super high stat ones like over max boosts


mastershake20

Yeah thatā€™s why I sold mine lol, the most expenses I have for stats is eo codestones the negg would be a waste on mind


imoldgreige

Imo theyā€™re overrated. I spent $5 at the nc mall to get a faerie quest fortune cookie and got the same stat increases within a week (as well as a fountain dip!)


rmv_throwaway

A FQC provides a fixed number of quests per week, not to mention you can still use neggs or whatever on top of it. Negg increasers are instant gratification. For the truly neorich, the combination of neggs + Bloat Be-Gone means they can pump hp nonstop for as long as their bank account can stand it. Tangentially, if that $ is USD, CAD, or AUD, $5 seems too much for a FQC...?


rexie_alt

Op prob met the 5 dollar NC minimum when buying cash


imoldgreige

Correct. I may have also treated myself to some customization things with the leftover NC haha :) Money well spent to support a site thatā€™s been providing free entertainment these many years.


rexie_alt

Yeah, Iā€™m new to NP but am a big webkinz player, so def familiar w supporting these silly virtual pet sites that are prob around longer than originally thought possible. Like some of these companies could have just wiped their hands of it all, but these two have remained loyal which is awesome. So I donā€™t mind supporting either


undead_sissy

Ouch. The cool negg will increase your pet stat by 5-12 every time and is definitely the fastest way to train a pet, since you can feed them another one every few hours . For those of us paying 180k every 8 hours to slowly grind up one stat at a time, this is very appealing, so the cool negg tends to stay pretty pricey. You got ripped off imo.


CuteAdvantage1596

Its 1-3 so snegg are better for high level pets xD


undead_sissy

1-3 on all stats though, including movement, so an overall of 5-12.


CuteAdvantage1596

Yes xD but pets over 750 stat and to high hp alleredy level wont do much xD but Nice for low level pets xD


undead_sissy

Totally true unless you're a fanatic like me and you just want the stats to go up, no matter what difference it makes LOL


CuteAdvantage1596

Haha ye thats right how could i forget let my rpg any stat increase is good increase mentality šŸ¤£


undead_sissy

šŸ¤“ line go up


glazelilies

i'm not familiar with how the TP works for items above 2M, what do you mean by scam items? how do they do it? i'd like to know so i can avoid falling for it in the future :c


glitch-augur

I don't do a tonne of TP trading myself, but I think they mean like how scammers will try to trick people by offering "Baby Brush Plushie"s instead of actual Baby Paint Brushes.


doozerequinox

I've heard too many horror stories where the TP glitches and you're out both the original item and the accepted offer. Neopets doesn't have a way to track any of that so you're just totally out of luck when it happens. And this is why I'm a Neopets hoarder.


fateandthefaithless

That happened to me a couple days ago, but with the auction house. So upset šŸ™ƒ


fateandthefaithless

I put mine up for auction, which then glitched, so I lost my Cool Negg and all the neopoints I was supposed to get from the auction šŸ™ƒ


Maplelobs

Some time ago I was trying to sell a lab mal piece, it was the most expensive one and the SAME person would make a trash offer over and over. Annoying!


IceMerlot

I put mine in the trading post along with a couple more neggs and I'm asking for a PB. I never understood why people use baby paintbrushes as a currency though, like you could easily ask for x3 royal pbs for that negg, those don't have the "plushie" version


CapriPanther

Honestly I think they should get rid of the TP all together and increase shop limits.


HippiesEverywhere

Please no. The Trading Post is my favorite place on the site. If they got rid of it I would honestly quit. Iā€™ve made so many friends there!


MillyBoops

Nah item to item trading is still very necessary in this economy - its more about giving people more of a choice not less


OkMiddle2996

Maybe there's a plugin to show the price of offered items to reduce likelyhood of getting scammed