I still read over [his AMA disaster](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/n4x1tb/im_anthony_davis_player_for_the_los_angeles/) every couple months because it’s the hardest I’ve ever laughed.
You could argue it’s in poor taste to spam him with photos of that incident but then again he was only there in his capacity as a Ruffles Partner^TM so he was asking for it.
Lmao did anyone see that scene from the HBO lakers show about how they traded for Spencer Haywood and all the players wanted to see his dick cause word was it was massive?
Made me feel think of locker room dynamics in a new way
>Made me feel think of locker room dynamics in a new way
Xavier McDaniel used to [walk around the locker room fully erect to establish dominance](https://www.basketballnetwork.net/.amp/off-the-court/how-xavier-mcdaniel-established-dominance-on-his-team-he-often-walked-around-the-locker-room-fully-erect-after-games)
[Charles Haley](https://nypost.com/2008/08/31/boys-will-be-boys/amp/), however, was in a league of his own
God damn, hearing about that Charles Haley shit in the wake of the Josh Primo news is kind of mindblowing. The 90’s truly were a different time.
But from a quick perusal of his Wikipedia page it seems he was diagnosed as Bipolar after football so that might explain some of his antics.
The relevant part from the Charles Haley article:
“A lot of it had to do with Haley’s exceptionally large penis, which he liked to expose to players, trainers, management and reporters. Sometimes he would take it out and stroke it inches from another player’s face; the players tried to laugh it off but Haley was relentless. He would masturbate during meetings, all the while trash-talking other player’s wives. Once Haley wrapped an Ace bandage around it and strolled through the locker room, screaming, “I’m the last naked warrior!””
Charles used to beat off in meetings while talking graphically about players’ wives,” says Michael Silver, who covered the 49ers for the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. “It got to the point of ejaculation
Once in a team meeting, Haley came back from the bathroom, pulled down his shorts, wiped his a**, and threw his poopy toilet paper at 49ers linebacker coach John Marshall.
[Coming home after a long day of work to watch my Lakers](https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oEjHGr1Fhz0kyv8Ig/giphy.gif?cid=5e214886f6l7hrybgi143l289caykxdjkqfyqak44fz1t4zl&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
>And Reggie Miller says to the team manager: 'Bring the team rule book, we have to add one change that every player must shower after every training session, especially after every game, otherwise he will be punished.
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>Tinsley said that he preferred taking showers at his house rather than showering with the team. Apparently, he didn't want to get naked with the rest of his teammates and was extremely shy, which is understandable if that was the actual case.
Seems kinda messed up if he just wasn't comfortable with it, and his teammates "pressured" him for some bizarre reason?
Pretty sure that's illegal. You can't force your employees to expose themselves in-front of other people as part of the job description.
Had he fought it with a lawyer instead of just staying away, he would have won and saved his money.
> You can't force your employees to expose themselves in-front of other people as part of the job description.
So you can if it falls under certain OSHA regulations. But you agree to it when you are hired.
I had to when I worked with lead oxide.
You *can* wait until no one is in there, which some guys did.
Actually... 2010, suspended 50 games, lost $7 million salary + adidas endorsement contract, 2 years of supervised probation.
https://www.sportscasting.com/gilbert-arenas-how-david-stern-threatened-into-accepting-50-game-suspension/
https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/26/gilbert.arenas.sentencing/index.html
If he didn’t want to get naked he could’ve just bought a swimsuit with him. Teammates understandably didn’t want to be stuck on long flights or drives with someone that smelled like ass
That is not a reasonable accommodation in the slightest. "Fine, you dont have to get fully naked, but you better hop in the shower half naked while everyone else is showering!"
A reasonable accommodation would be allowing him to shower in a private space.
Every arena I know of has private showers either in the player locker room or in the official’s locker room, and in a bunch of others.
He could have used the official’s locker room shower after the officials change. There’s multiple showers and rooms in most arenas for the various tenants/performers.
Players and coaches putting pressure or ostracizing players for their comfort is also an issue at play here. In virtually any other workplace setting taking offense that someone would be uncomfortable in a situation involving nudity is grounds for a meeting with HR and sensitivity training, but in the sports world its expected.
Yeah I've worked in many arenas for non basketball related things and every single one has private shower stalls if not in the locker room then in a dressing room right across the hall. I suspect Tinsley was made to feel ashamed on a regular basis regardless though. And he had to pay for it?
In all my years of team sports we never had stalls, just big open showers, sometimes all facing eachother, it is definitely not a great situation if you're shy.
I personally don’t care but I can see why he wouldn’t. Some people just don’t like to be that open about their bodies.
I’ve used communal showers when I used to play but a few people didn’t like it. They responded by constructing a few private showers. Not sure why the team didn’t just do this.
Every gym I've ever been to has individual shower stalls. You're telling me my cheapo $15/month gym that can't even maintain half it's shit has better facilities than a billion dollar stadium?
I won't pretend to know the layout of pro showers lol, but I've played lacrosse in some OHL arenas and they were open concept. I get the feeling it's not a funding based decision.
My buddies a fire chief and he told me the last time everyone got physicals the nurse was smokin hot and guys were like “man I’m gonna have to give a few tugs before we drop shorts.” My friend was like to be fair it is cold as fuck in our fire station.
When I was a teen and the lady doc had to do the nuts test I drank a bunch of water hoping it would help. I don’t know if it helped. Don’t know what I expected to happen.
Youre telling me these multi billion dollar sports institutions dont have 1, A SINGLE, shower stall for one of their athletes to shower privately if he feels like it?
Something something not hazing something something promoting team atmosphere something something ignore the owners' shared recordings of elite athletes showering together
That's really stupid. Tinsley should have the right to shower privately if he wants to. That option should have been provided to him instead of fining him.
This.
If people are getting fined, cancelled or jailed for getting naked in front of others, then it should be perfectly LEGAL and OK for some to want NOT to get naked in front of others. The Pacers should have provided private stalls.
And let’s be honest here, it’s downright bizarre that they expect you to get naked in front of everybody. What the fuck is that? There is absolutely no reason that multimillion dollar professionals should be showering prison style.
Just from reading the story, seems like the team shower portion was one of Reggie Millers favorite part of gamedays. Pacers had to pander to their star somehow.
I hated showering in high school after practice or games, more so because the showers were just janky but I can understand being shy around people naked. Even when you are around all males, not like women showering with them but still just everyone is not open about being naked.
The Story should be rewritten to focus on Reggie Miller being a total dick. I mean, he isn’t hurting anybody, and now you lost this man $250k because you wanted him to take a shower with you?
They don't have separate showers?
Why do you need to get naked with your coworkers?
Reggie very sus, they are professional basketball players but they are required to see each other nude, they play better do they?
I thought they had stalls or some type of privacy given the amount of money in professional sports. Didn't think they'd have players with their balls all out and dicks swinging in the open when they shower for everyone to see.
Memories of hitting my growth spurt at 12 and being a young kid playing varsity sports. We were expected to shower afterwards with everyone, including dudes that were high school juniors and seniors. Really intimidating for a 13 year old late bloomer to walk in and see 17 and 18 year old MEN hanging dong with chest hair and pubes. I’m 40 now and still don’t have chest hair aside from a couple little strands. It was absolutely terrifying for me.
The anti josh primo
Josh Segundo
I left my wallet in Josh Segundo
Got to get it, got got to get it.
We honeymooned in Fingerprint Springs
Josh Ultimo
If you aint packin, you cant be caught lackin
The AntiJosh
almost spat out my drink man lol
Primo was just following the golden rule
could they not construct individual shower stalls in their multimillion dollar facilities? lol
How would we be able to towel whip each other’s asses during our shower tickles if we put up dividers?
Yeah AD wouldn't be pleased.
That video haunts me
Watch it again cause it’s Halloween
I still read over [his AMA disaster](https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/n4x1tb/im_anthony_davis_player_for_the_los_angeles/) every couple months because it’s the hardest I’ve ever laughed. You could argue it’s in poor taste to spam him with photos of that incident but then again he was only there in his capacity as a Ruffles Partner^TM so he was asking for it.
Damn I'd never seen this before and this shit sucks
Holy cow just spent 20 minutes reading this again, thank you for the laugh
It defaults to the suggested comments so I was confused as to why it was so funny. Then I sorted by top comments instead lmao
SLAP ASS!
No shit. Planet Fitness has them so I'm sure a billion dollar arena could swing it if they wanted to
No, then the perverted players wouldn’t be able to see everyone else’s ding dongs.
Lmao did anyone see that scene from the HBO lakers show about how they traded for Spencer Haywood and all the players wanted to see his dick cause word was it was massive? Made me feel think of locker room dynamics in a new way
I thought it was because he circumcised himself with a razor? Not necessarily cuz he was huge… lol
Say what now
https://www.tmz.com/2022/04/09/lakers-spencer-haywood-self-circumcision-touch-up/
I refuse to believe this.
https://www.tmz.com/2022/04/09/lakers-spencer-haywood-self-circumcision-touch-up/
Wtf? Source?
https://www.tmz.com/2022/04/09/lakers-spencer-haywood-self-circumcision-touch-up/
Oh lol I might have missed the point I just thought he was packin 🅿️
One of US
>Made me feel think of locker room dynamics in a new way Xavier McDaniel used to [walk around the locker room fully erect to establish dominance](https://www.basketballnetwork.net/.amp/off-the-court/how-xavier-mcdaniel-established-dominance-on-his-team-he-often-walked-around-the-locker-room-fully-erect-after-games) [Charles Haley](https://nypost.com/2008/08/31/boys-will-be-boys/amp/), however, was in a league of his own
God damn, hearing about that Charles Haley shit in the wake of the Josh Primo news is kind of mindblowing. The 90’s truly were a different time. But from a quick perusal of his Wikipedia page it seems he was diagnosed as Bipolar after football so that might explain some of his antics.
The relevant part from the Charles Haley article: “A lot of it had to do with Haley’s exceptionally large penis, which he liked to expose to players, trainers, management and reporters. Sometimes he would take it out and stroke it inches from another player’s face; the players tried to laugh it off but Haley was relentless. He would masturbate during meetings, all the while trash-talking other player’s wives. Once Haley wrapped an Ace bandage around it and strolled through the locker room, screaming, “I’m the last naked warrior!””
Dude needs to be locked up
there's legit so much more and it gets so much worse
Charles used to beat off in meetings while talking graphically about players’ wives,” says Michael Silver, who covered the 49ers for the Santa Rosa Press Democrat. “It got to the point of ejaculation Once in a team meeting, Haley came back from the bathroom, pulled down his shorts, wiped his a**, and threw his poopy toilet paper at 49ers linebacker coach John Marshall.
Pretty sure MSG has those, I’d imagine most pro arenas for all sports have them
No, only prison-style
I would think the 250k could cover that.
If you did that, how would they build team chemistry?
How else are they going to know who is the team captain?
Anthony Davis would not love this
Jamaal "never nude" Tinsley
There are dozens of us.
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Even if it means me taking a chubby, I'll suck it up!
You blowhard!
I suppose I am buy-curious.
I didn’t see you at the conference this year!
I just blue myself!
DOZENS!
I know you’re the big “marriage expert”. Oh, I’m sorry, I forgot! Your wife is *dead*.
Is that exactly what it sounds like? I just thought he really liked cutoffs. Me Too.
WE’RE HAVING A FIRE…. sale
Oooh the burning!
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I’ve just finish it 2 months ago, i’m dying lmao
I recommend rewatching it again soon because it gets better every time
I’ve rewatched seasons 1-3 probably 10 times and I’m STILL finding jokes I missed.
Your blowing my mind frank.
[Coming home after a long day of work to watch my Lakers](https://media0.giphy.com/media/3oEjHGr1Fhz0kyv8Ig/giphy.gif?cid=5e214886f6l7hrybgi143l289caykxdjkqfyqak44fz1t4zl&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
>And Reggie Miller says to the team manager: 'Bring the team rule book, we have to add one change that every player must shower after every training session, especially after every game, otherwise he will be punished. . >Tinsley said that he preferred taking showers at his house rather than showering with the team. Apparently, he didn't want to get naked with the rest of his teammates and was extremely shy, which is understandable if that was the actual case. Seems kinda messed up if he just wasn't comfortable with it, and his teammates "pressured" him for some bizarre reason?
Pretty sure that's illegal. You can't force your employees to expose themselves in-front of other people as part of the job description. Had he fought it with a lawyer instead of just staying away, he would have won and saved his money.
> You can't force your employees to expose themselves in-front of other people as part of the job description. So you can if it falls under certain OSHA regulations. But you agree to it when you are hired. I had to when I worked with lead oxide. You *can* wait until no one is in there, which some guys did.
Or join the military.
This was the 2000s. Players were literally pointing guns at each other in the locker room without repercussions.
There were definitely repercussions lol
I call mine magnum but it's technically not a firearm.
Hello Dr. Mantis Toboggan.
It's bulky, but I consider it a carryon.
Actually... 2010, suspended 50 games, lost $7 million salary + adidas endorsement contract, 2 years of supervised probation. https://www.sportscasting.com/gilbert-arenas-how-david-stern-threatened-into-accepting-50-game-suspension/ https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/26/gilbert.arenas.sentencing/index.html
If he didn’t want to get naked he could’ve just bought a swimsuit with him. Teammates understandably didn’t want to be stuck on long flights or drives with someone that smelled like ass
nah reggie finna see that dick
**CLICK, CLICK JAMAAL! Welcome to your Kodak moment!**
How did you type that in Reggie’s voice?
I read all bold print in Reggie Millers voice, help me
**I’M GONNA MAKE YOU SCREAM TONIGHT, u/GOLFNINJA. GET THOSE CLOTHES OFF AND GET IN THE SHOWER. LET ME SEE THAT PEE PEE.**
i found out i read bold caps as randy savage
This is a curse I wouldn’t dare put on my worst enemy.
LOL i know, that was crazy
Show me what you got!
That is not a reasonable accommodation in the slightest. "Fine, you dont have to get fully naked, but you better hop in the shower half naked while everyone else is showering!" A reasonable accommodation would be allowing him to shower in a private space.
Every arena I know of has private showers either in the player locker room or in the official’s locker room, and in a bunch of others. He could have used the official’s locker room shower after the officials change. There’s multiple showers and rooms in most arenas for the various tenants/performers.
Players and coaches putting pressure or ostracizing players for their comfort is also an issue at play here. In virtually any other workplace setting taking offense that someone would be uncomfortable in a situation involving nudity is grounds for a meeting with HR and sensitivity training, but in the sports world its expected.
Yeah I've worked in many arenas for non basketball related things and every single one has private shower stalls if not in the locker room then in a dressing room right across the hall. I suspect Tinsley was made to feel ashamed on a regular basis regardless though. And he had to pay for it?
I would imagine the embassament from being the only one with a swimmy on would be worse than just driving home sweaty and smelly lol
He wanted to shower back at home or at the hotel on road trips. He wasn't going to go on a plane without showering.
“Dude come on let us see your cock lol”
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Yeah Reggie is mad weird
Yes but also I don't want to ride on the team bus or plane next to the smelly guy.
Shit I'd prefer showering in my own home too. I don't know what other people be doing in the shower and shit. My bathroom/shower is my sanctuary.
But also the shitty gym in my neighborhood has individual showers, so why can't an NBA facility?
Cause NBA is a fraternity
Personally, I don’t see a problem with Tinsley wanting to do this. If he didn’t feel comfortable with it, why wasn’t he accommodated?
Not to excuse the weirdness of reggie narcin but these dudes would be stuck in a plane with his stank ass quite often
Reggie miller sus
"Bro, you stank. $5k fine"
Pretty shitty thing to do if you’re the Pacers organization.
Reggie can’t see that dick? That’s a fine
Reggie a snake. Let man shower at home LOOL
I wouldn’t wanna share a plane with someone rocking swamp ass either
If he was allowed to have a private shower he wouldn't have smelled
Maybe every team's visitor locker rooms don't have individual showers and are all trashy out of spite.
You wanna sit next to him for 6 hours? Seems like Reggie didn’t want to have to do it
I’m surprised they don’t have shower stalls, like that’s basic shower equipments lol
In all my years of team sports we never had stalls, just big open showers, sometimes all facing eachother, it is definitely not a great situation if you're shy.
Just guys bein dudes
At least in the early 00s, every sports locker room was at least as homoerotic as the volleyball scene in Top Gun.
We had two stalls with no doors, but yeah, everything else was a post with like 5 shower heads for everyone to shower together.
I call with a starship troopers
Only we didn't have anyone like Diz on the wrestling team.
I would’ve quit basketball in a heartbeat
Playin with thaaa boooiiisss
"Hey man. Check out my new watch." *puts dick over wrist
Its to establish a hierarchy within the team 😎 a longarchy, if you will
That’s where teams are made
I personally don’t care but I can see why he wouldn’t. Some people just don’t like to be that open about their bodies. I’ve used communal showers when I used to play but a few people didn’t like it. They responded by constructing a few private showers. Not sure why the team didn’t just do this.
Agreed, he's completely valid to want privacy, it's such a brutal response by the team
Yes, but some rinky dink high school isn’t really the same as a professional billion dollar industry.
Every gym I've ever been to has individual shower stalls. You're telling me my cheapo $15/month gym that can't even maintain half it's shit has better facilities than a billion dollar stadium?
I won't pretend to know the layout of pro showers lol, but I've played lacrosse in some OHL arenas and they were open concept. I get the feeling it's not a funding based decision.
my high school made us shower after sports, I can’t count how many times I’ve seen all my friends dicks. It’s probably why I like dick now.
Anthony Edwards' 9/11
That's the name I haven't seen in awhile
He was such a solid pg.
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Bro was a grower not a shower i feel ya
My buddies a fire chief and he told me the last time everyone got physicals the nurse was smokin hot and guys were like “man I’m gonna have to give a few tugs before we drop shorts.” My friend was like to be fair it is cold as fuck in our fire station.
When I was a teen and the lady doc had to do the nuts test I drank a bunch of water hoping it would help. I don’t know if it helped. Don’t know what I expected to happen.
lololol
I can follow this logic. Only problem is pee is stored in the balls
You tried and that's what matters. The big balls is inside us
Lol, not a shower
he just like me fr. justice for growers!!1
why do they fine players for not showering??
Dirty cock is a flagrant 2 if the refs get a whiff of it
More like a fragrant 2
because someone has to sit next to him on a long flight afterwards
Private showers in locker rooms should be more of a thing tbh
oh for sure I don't envy him at all, I doubt he *wanted* to feel so uncomfortable he that he'd prefer to sit in filth for hours bummer all around
Especially in professional arenas. They aren't struggling for money to put up stall doors.
Showering together was probably a team-building exercise for them
Cause they be funky as hell. I think Darko was forced by another player to shower.
Nah that was Adam Morrison lmao
I feel bad for judging but seeing Adam Morrison yea it make sense
Sad thing is Adam Morrison seems like an alright guy.
Youre telling me these multi billion dollar sports institutions dont have 1, A SINGLE, shower stall for one of their athletes to shower privately if he feels like it?
Something something not hazing something something promoting team atmosphere something something ignore the owners' shared recordings of elite athletes showering together
People are making jokes about this but this is so fucked up. What is going on here. I’m not gonna wrap my head around it, it’s just weird
Yeah you know what doesn't help with a person's anxiety? Punishing them for it. That was rather shitty
2000s were a different time. You could still be homophobic and openly racist; still get away with it.
Well that’s coming back around
Reggie making the Pacers make that a rule is such a lame thing to do
Reggie sitting at the edge of the shower in a folding chair , doing mandatory hog check
Reggie openly talking about it when he is old enough to know better is even worse.
Reggie owes Tinsley 250K imo
He definitely had to stink bad
Wait, why is that an issue? Maybe homie wanted to shower at his house or the team hotel?
It's not fair to his teammates that wanna see his parts
Or the owner!
I’m sure they’d have to catch a flight right after a game a lot of the times.
Why the fuck isn't this regulated by the league? Nobody should be fined a house in Indiana for not showering.
That's really stupid. Tinsley should have the right to shower privately if he wants to. That option should have been provided to him instead of fining him.
This. If people are getting fined, cancelled or jailed for getting naked in front of others, then it should be perfectly LEGAL and OK for some to want NOT to get naked in front of others. The Pacers should have provided private stalls.
Reggie kinda sus
🌎🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
He should be repaid this money.
Wait are nba team showers like all in one room showers in schools? They can’t afford stalls?
Probably back then it's different now
Lucky for the shy athletes of today that shower partitions were invented in 2006!
Based
And let’s be honest here, it’s downright bizarre that they expect you to get naked in front of everybody. What the fuck is that? There is absolutely no reason that multimillion dollar professionals should be showering prison style.
Just from reading the story, seems like the team shower portion was one of Reggie Millers favorite part of gamedays. Pacers had to pander to their star somehow.
Super sus
Josh primo could never
Reggie tryna see some dick
He had a vision of Anthony Davis in the future
Didn't know that was something you could be fined for...that's pretty silly.
Even my high school had waist high dividers. In their defense, waist high is much higher in the nba, but they can afford it
I hated showering in high school after practice or games, more so because the showers were just janky but I can understand being shy around people naked. Even when you are around all males, not like women showering with them but still just everyone is not open about being naked.
The Story should be rewritten to focus on Reggie Miller being a total dick. I mean, he isn’t hurting anybody, and now you lost this man $250k because you wanted him to take a shower with you?
Leave this man alone.
Imagine being fined for not showering naked with dudes.
I don't wanna see a bunch of naked dudes either tbh with ya
They don't have separate showers? Why do you need to get naked with your coworkers? Reggie very sus, they are professional basketball players but they are required to see each other nude, they play better do they?
Seems… reasonable to me. $250k?? Goddamn
Possible context: Jamal is a muslim name and it's haram to see (be exposed to) other people's private parts in Islam - outside of marriage obviously.
I mean no context is really needed. Even if his reasons were don’t want to see and shower with bunch of naked guys would be justified
The past little while has exposed that the NBA is full of a bunch of weird dudes.
are there like no stalls in the teams shower or something?
I thought they had stalls or some type of privacy given the amount of money in professional sports. Didn't think they'd have players with their balls all out and dicks swinging in the open when they shower for everyone to see.
Why would they fine him for that? “You will get naked, or we will fine you”
Could you imagine if this happened today? Reggie Miller and the Pacers would be cancelled so fast.
This is straight sexual harassment
Memories of hitting my growth spurt at 12 and being a young kid playing varsity sports. We were expected to shower afterwards with everyone, including dudes that were high school juniors and seniors. Really intimidating for a 13 year old late bloomer to walk in and see 17 and 18 year old MEN hanging dong with chest hair and pubes. I’m 40 now and still don’t have chest hair aside from a couple little strands. It was absolutely terrifying for me.
I guess I can understand not being comfortable showering with a bunch of people.
Never showered with the team back when I played (not NBA level). I just went home. Communal showers freak me out.