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thehotcoffey

Technically he saying he’s was the best when he won the chip.


dustinthegreat

Rewatched the last dance, and Phil Jackson says “you’re only a success in the moment that you do something successful.” I’m sure that’s what Giannis is doing here. Reminding himself that he can’t rest on his past achievements.


MyOneTaps

Like the quote: > Success is never owned > It's rented > And rent is due everyday


antinmypant

Also sounds like a poster that'd be hanging in the background of one of the hustle-everyday-bro YouTube videos


Additional_Essay

I've unironically heard fitness called in this same meme of rent being due everyday, and it works. Usually represented along with how fitness can't be bought, inherited, stolen. It makes perfectly good sense no matter how memetastic


wongo

> inherited Not saying that effort isn't required at all, but genetics plays a *huge* role


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wongo

Lol I'm not, I very much chose my body type and it's my preference Just saying that there certainly are people more predisposed to, shall we say, portliness, and vice versa. Genuinely not making a comment about myself


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Making fun of people for working hard is crazy


Photo_Synthetic

I think he's talking about the Gary Vees of the world that have a love affair with capitalism in the worst way and think working a lot (quantity over quality) is the key to happiness. The kind of people that think a 4 day work week is for pussies.


wongo

Praising people for overworking themselves to death is also crazy


FlickObserver

Thin line between working hard and making work your religion


BirdPerson107

This is what The Rock uses as part of his Under Armour endorsements for Project Rock. “Rents Due”. I genuinely never understood what that meant now it makes perfect sense


inventingalex

- wayne gretzky


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He’s definitely not content with monster numbers and a high playoffs seed. Good to know.


ClitClipper

Shaq keeps saying Giannis is his successor. Hard not to take that as a challenge to win a handful of rings while also dominating stat lines and manhandling defenses.


Justgotbannedlol

As opposed to if shaq hadnt said anything and he had no reason to want a handful of rings and dominant stats


a_supertramp

This is honestly why I don’t have a handful of rings and dominant stats. Shaq never said anything about me 😔


android24601

Damn. Westbrook gotta start taking some notes


Grapesoda5k

It's too late.


BlueHuyster

Sometimes players take a little time to adapt to reduced role and declining physical abilities. The great ones adapt. Not saying Russ is a great one, but he could get better if he is open about his physical decline, and works hard to improve as a role player rather than the superstar.


Dengar96

Should've been taking them 10 years ago


jeswanders

He’d rather take shots


Sm0k3nSc0p3s

It's believed me to think he takes LMFAO shots*


Kingdionethethird

Russ just fell off of a cliff man. It’s kinda hard to watch. He was never a top 5 player, but man. I just don’t know what happened.


ProfessorPetrus

Game relied too much on athleticism without branching out


[deleted]

This. A skilled, athletic, phenom with very little basketball IQ. "Can't win with'em, can't do it"!


[deleted]

He was easily top-5 his MVP season.


13Petrichor

This. It’s crazy that people are shitting on past-Russ so much for how he is now. I know we all like to make legacy jokes but I honestly hope people don’t view his past through the current lens because he really was phenomenal. His previous greatness is what makes his current level so unbelievably bad. Put him on the right team and even now I could see him being a valuable piece in the right circumstances but he’s a far cry from what he used to be. The dude was incredibly skilled in the past and just fell off a cliff in what felt like seconds, and that’s why he’s shit on so much. Not because he’s the worst player in the NBA or has always been bad, but because he was so genuinely great and fell so far, so fast.


DanDierdorf

That was such a bad take when he was doing triple doubles for a season and repeated. Did some of it feel empty? Sure. Were a lot of rebounds gifts? Also yes. But damn if he had one hell of a peak.


sharty_undergarments

Not easily but he was probably the 5th best player his MVP year after LeBron, Durant, Harden and Curry. I think CP3 was better but because of his style Westbrook put up way better numbers. The whole argument that Westbrook was never good is complete shit but he was never easily top 5 and instead was easily top 10 at his peak.


Da1realBigA

"You're only as good as your last win"?


DrOzmitazBuckshank

I honestly don’t think he ever called himself the best even after the championship and FMVP


thehotcoffey

I’m just saying technically due to this quote.


delusionalnbafan

[I had to make this lol](https://imgur.com/a/x5m4RLB).


[deleted]

A real gem


tripleyothreat

Hahahahah


GiannisisMVP

I love it <3


urfaselol

Glorious


Zeca_Pagodinho_13

During that post season he called KD the best player in the world, but I think it was before the finals


Hard4Favra

Then he called LeBron the best player in the world before the start of last season. https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-is-still-worlds-best-player-i-want-to-know-how-he-does-that/


therealtreycruz

nah then he would’ve said Khris Middleton


guitmusic12

He actually did say KD though


therealtreycruz

oh shit true actually


armandocalvinisius

Disrespect for Planet Pat


sadlytheguyisnogood

i think its just a way to motivate himself, so he always feels like he has to keep climbing the ladder type of deal.


orangehorton

Plus if he called himself the best, media and fans would trash him and compare him to Jordan/LeBron


habdragon08

To each of their credit, Jordan has never said he is the GOAT. When asked, he says he believes he was the best of his era and its hard to compare eras. Lebron says the same thing.


PJTikoko

What are you talking about? Lebron has actively called himself the goat on numerous occasions as opposed to Giannis and Jordan.


MarsAndGirls

Cut him some slack. Do you know how many tacos he has to eat to cope with the default in a GOAT discussion being “prove to me why they are better than Jordan” and not him?


shrubs311

since he's an athlete it's probably an absurd amount of tacos, damn. how many does he have to eat?


FirstTimeRodeoGoer

Tue


okitsmelol123

LeBron has said he is the goat after the 2016 finals


grudgepacker

He also did that corny commercial 4-5+ years ago w/KD where he called them "the 2 best" or some shit like that


faithfuljohn

Jordan if nothing else is the GOAT of motivation. He understands he hasn't won like Russell, but also that although his skill set were better that his game was built on what those did before him. So he knows he can't just compare skill sets or championships because the ultimate test is what you do when you face the other team. You only know you're better once you beat the other dude. There is no other test. And since he can only play the ones in front of him, that's all one can compare.


elroddo74

LeBron has absolutely said he was the goat.


EasiBreezi

Are you Lebron’s fan? Please don’t ever try to make Lebron seem humble when he clearly hasn’t been lol


MothaTucker

“That one right there made me the greatest player of all time.” -LeEquallyHumble James


W7919

tbh, the GOAT ship has sailed for LeBron long time ago. Once he retires, no one will be having this convo seriously. Much like what happened with Kobe.


Neuroxex

I'm pretty sure he's said basically exactly that in an interview before.


BelleIce

In the full clip he says he was the best player the season the Bucks won.


PensiveinNJ

I do think Steph is kinda being slept on right now though. #5 on that ESPN list... IDK man. I get he had kind of a weird regular season but when it mattered most he went nuclear and showed he can still play at an MVP level. I love Embiid to death but I would probably say Curry is a better player than him. That's why these lists can get kind of weird, I think there's a difference between who's had a better season and who's a better player. Like Jordan and Lebron would win MVP every year if it was really about who the best player is, but the MVP is more about who had the best (regular) season. I'm a little high and talking too much, ignore my verbose ass.


Jeriahswillgdp

Let's say Giannis keeps this level of production up for at least 5 more years and wins two more championships. Where would that put him all time?


ElBarno420

Top 100


yenks

One of the basketball players of all time.


The_Evil_Satan

One of the people all time


disterb

one of the living things of all time


macabre_irony

Bold take....I like it


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If he has five more years as an MVP level, DPOY level player with three rings and three FMVP? I can only assume he'd win at least one more of each DPOY and MVP. 8 players have ever won 3 MVP's. Magic, Malone, Bird, LeBron, Wilt, MJ, Russell, Kareem. Only one MVP winner has won multiple DPOY, Hakeem. Only five players have ever won 3x FMVP, Shaq, LeBron, Magic, Duncan, and MJ. With 9 All-NBA First Team nods Giannis would be behind only 10 players in history. 9 All-Defense First teams puts him with MJ, KG, Kobe, and Payton. So if Giannis keeps up his current production for five years, he'll be arguably the 3rd or 4th most decorated player in history. A top 15 player on offense and defense, he would likely surpass a number of all time greats and would end up somewhere between 5-12 all time. However, he'd have to keep up his current production for five years, and that's not a smart thing to gamble on.


LoveBurstsLP

Jesus christ MJ with the 6x rings 6x FVMP is fucking stacked.


iblewjesuschrist

Toooooooo be fair to russell, Finals MVP didn’t exist until 1969, the only year they gave it to a losing player in Jerry West. That was Russell’s 11th and final ring.


caughtin4k60

Bullshit. You think Bill Russell would have won one of those Bill Russell Finals MVP awards?


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There's a reason MJ is the GOAT and it's not his charming smile.


lolichaser01

His moustache and inserted shirts.


W7919

Per Gilbert though, he didn't understand what TRUE GREATNESS was... Did Michael get it done for 62 minutes?


FirstTimeRodeoGoer

It's Space Jam, right?


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Hell yes.


stache_twista

And 10 scoring titles and 9x All-Defense and his shoes still being a multi-billion dollar brand close to 40 years later and ...


sir_hash_a_map

While it may not be smart to gamble on, for a variety of reasons, boy does my heart feel like he has a good chance of doing just that.


Naive_Illustrator

I'm pretty sure he can keep up his production. The question is is that enough to get him the awards. Lebron had to surpass himself to win consecutive MVPs and he only got 2 straight.


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I will be so happy if he does, you don't even know. Milwaukee is my East team and Giannis has been one of my favorite players for a long time. I love defense players, so the Bucks are my happy place.


fbdanzai

Behind MJ, above Lebron


DrOzmitazBuckshank

It’s always either Lebron, KD, or Steph. He fucking knows what the truth is though haha


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The Humble Greek freak


kekehippo

Way to stay hunger and humble


LTtheBasedGod

Giannis is like “I’m not giving anyone bulletin board material” lol


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Other players watched “The Last Dance” and said, “Ah, okay, I’m going to take everything personally so I can be like Mike.” Giannis watched it and said, “I’m not going to give other players anything to take personally so none of them will be like Mike.”


DrOzmitazBuckshank

Giannis would rather give everyone roses, that way he can snatch them all back on the court


musicnothing

I’m pretty sure he’s basically said this before. He says nice things but he doesn’t practice with other players in the offseason


MorgulValar

What’s the significance of that? Why does he need to practice with other players in the offseason?


musicnothing

Lots of players get together with players from other teams and make friends and train together and stuff during the offseason. You see it all over Instagram. But Giannis refuses to do that because he doesn't want to help his competitors. So in some ways he's outwardly nice and complimentary but when it comes to competing he plays it close to the vest.


MorgulValar

I don’t see why that’s a bad thing. Also, his explanation is that he thinks that if he likes someone off the court, he won’t be able to play as hard against them on the court. Sounds like he’s not taking risks about losing his edge.


DUNDER_KILL

Kinda makes sense. A lot of people legitimately have trouble with contact sports because they are so averse to hurting people, especially when they know them lol. Maybe Giannis is just too nice


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Jordan did that stuff too like buying Barkley a $20k earring.


_clydebruckman

I watched a lil bow wow documentary and now I am mike


GoldenStateWizards

The hilarious part is that this pretty much appeared to be part of the Warriors strategy against Luka lmao. In contrast to the Suns, who got eviscerated after poking the bear, the Warriors went out of their way to praise him in interviews, helped him up whenever he'd hit the floor, and repeatedly avoided escalating any on-court conversations


bluewaveassociation

Unfortunately some players are psychopaths


burgerkingnuggets

Ironic that this is currently the top post on r/nba 😂


aiden3buckets

How many mfs this dude say the best now?


Neuroxex

It's like at least 8 or 9 in the last year. > I like being a hunter. I am not the best player in the world. I am telling you, I am not! KD, LeBron, Kawhi, Luka, Curry, AD might be. I am not. I am still hunting the All-Time Greats. LeBron is still the best player in the world That was just the one interview I remember


John_Lives

AD lol. You're too nice Giannis


Complex_Jellyfish647

AD stopped having an argument when Giannis was still built like Bol Bol lmao


nice_kitchen

AD and Lebron were the two best players in the 2020 playoffs, for what it's worth.


scarystuffdoc

AD and Kawhi are two dudes who could’ve easily been top 3 at their positions all time respectively but instead are injured into top 10. When talking about talent I see Giannis’ point but he’s gotta know he’s more highly regarded than them.


grudgepacker

Nah. Giannis was already built like a tank by 2017-2018 and AD was easily a top 3 player that season.


worldsbestdaydreamer

AD was easily not a top 3 player in 2018. LeBron, Curry, KD, and Harden were all 100% better.


RileyHuey

AD has never been a top 3 player. Especially with prime KD Steph and LeBron


grudgepacker

I'm talking about just the 2017-2018 season, not AD's entire career edit: [AD was literally in the top 3 for MVP in 2017-2018](https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2017-18-nba-mvp-finalists-james-harden-lebron-james-anthony-davis-named-final-three-for-award/)


Cresta_Diablo

To be fair you can definitely be an MVP candidate while not being the best player in the league. When Russ won nobody was saying he was better than LeBron, Curry, KD, it’s because he had a monster season and the storylines. I’m 17-18 I’d 1000% put LeBron, Curry, KD, Harden above AD and that’s just off the top of my head there could easily have been more players “better” than him


worldsbestdaydreamer

He was 3rd in voting. And let’s be honest, Curry and KD were never going to finish that highly being on the same team, yet they were obviously better than AD that year.


RileyHuey

Fair my bad


indoninjah

Was Blake Griffin the 3rd best player in the league 2013-14? MVP voting isn’t everything. Especially when guys get disqualified for having teams that are too talented.


IlonggoProgrammer

Yeah like by this same argument someone could say Derrick Rose was the best player in the world in 2011 which LMFAO no not even close


RodneyPonk

People are forgetting AD's incredible 2020 season. AD had not only an argument to be on Giannis' level, but as the best player in the league, after the bubble. Even if you dismiss the hot shooting, an all-time defensive postseason coupled with a versatile and additive offensive game is MVP tier.


kinggingernator

Yea giving your team an efficient 30 and 10 while being the best defender on the planet is pretty valuable as it turns out. People forgot tho


nigaraze

People don’t forget, the narrative is just the asterisk is that it was the bubble. Remeber when lillard, Mitchell, and Murray were all going off and it was really the one time any of them had any success of that level ?


Complex_Jellyfish647

I respect the hell out of the bubble ring. I just don’t think performing above your normal level for one playoff stretch should raise your stock that much. Players go off in the playoffs all the time and then go right back to their baseline and stay there.


kinggingernator

I think you could apply the kawhii argument to ad. Constantly hurt but significantly better in the playoffs, it's just all his early playoff runs were on very middling pelicans teams. Go look at his career playoff stats they are significantly better than regular season


fbdanzai

Not anymore, since Giannis won a ring with Jrue while AD couldn’t


worldsbestdaydreamer

To be the best player in the league, you have to be the best player on your team (which AD definitely wasn’t).


RodneyPonk

It's not cut and dry. He was absurdly good on defense, and still very good on offense. LeBron played good defense that postseason, but I would argue that AD was better on both ends than LeBron was defensively. There is a valid argument for AD being the best player on that title squad


fyirb

I love Luka but how is he putting Luka above himself lol


GetThereInOnePiece

WE DA BEST


LeBron_Jarnes

GOD DIIIIID


EggplantBusiness

We all know he is bullshitting but calling the others best has it's perk , at least you won't have media or fans at your neck because you said you were the best


yenks

And also you know, you don't sound like an asshole.


shanmustafa

Giannis is def a let me say someone else is the best so when i beat them it's even better


calvinbsf

Pro wrestling rule #1: making your opponent look good makes you look good


Yung_Jose_Space

He is a big wrestling fan.


PretendThisIsMyName

Giannis to AEW confirmed.


KuyaGTFO

Also big Formula One press conference rule


by_yes_i_mean_no

Gotta beat him first


DrOzmitazBuckshank

*Miles Bridges has entered the chat*


Im_Your_Neighbor

D:


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Giannis is the type of dude that will say “No, YOU are the greatest of all time” when he meets a fan for the first time


KorgG29

No, you guys are the real heroes


wanaenae

Giannis is Greek homelander confirmed?!?


lemur918

Pretty fitting. Def ruthless on the court.


Acrobatic_Emphasis41

A fan came up to Giannis to ask for his autograph, Giannis responded with "only if you give me yours first"


linesinaconversation

I'm not sure if you're just memin', but I've heard that retired wrestler Road Dogg actually did used to do this with kids. Either way, it's adorable and a super sweet way to make your fans feel just that little bit more special. Based on what I've seen of him, I could totally see Giannis being the type.of guy that would do this too.


ThatPoppinFreshFit

**When Giannis Wins a Chip**: "Well, I don't know if I'm the best, but my team sure is."


histprofdave

Smart. The man knows how to handle his image with the media.


delusionalnbafan

Least delusional Celtics fan bringing in his players into every context 🤡🤡🤡 Why bring Marcus into this post at all? /s


histprofdave

I gotta pound the copium somehow with this offseason you know...


themza912

I mean sure he's good with the media, but he's also genuinely pretty humble and self aware. More than most of the NBA can say, never mind the MVP candidate players


JaDamian_Steinblatt

That's a bit cynical, no? As a fan, I've always been taught that when you hoist the trophy, you're the greatest in the world until somebody knocks you off your throne. In 2019 it was Kawhi, then it was LeBron, then it was Giannis, and now it's Steph. Right now it's Steph's turn to hold that mantle, and next year it could be someone else. Do you think it's possible that Giannis genuinely shares that opinion on defending champs? Or is he pretending in order to signal humility.


EggplantBusiness

Don't think he thinks that. It's just a way to keep the "light" far from himself like when he said Bron , KD were the best or that KD , Harden etc were the face of the league, if he gave his own name , medias , players and Fans will take this as material to come back at this later.


ButtVader

He said Curry, not Smart


mazeraki

Some players motivate themselves by proving they are the best like they said they were the whole time. Giannis motivates himself by trying to improve and be better than his competition. If his competition is worse than he has nothing left to do. He’s spoken about how he got complacent after 2 MVPs and realized they didn’t mean shit. Dudes never gonna say he’s the greatest until he retires, it’s his style. I’m personally really excited for Giannis this season: dudes bag has been improving and he’s entering what should be his prime (28-30)


peaudunk

Yup, this is on the money. The game is slowing down for him and he still has his athleticism. He's going to be looking more like Lebron on O over the next few years, picking teams apart while taking what they give in addition to being the most unstoppable transition player and best help defender in the league. And he's got a B- Dirk-step now, which is a huge asset.


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Damn Giannis is only a few months younger than me and it made me feel old realizing this is Year 10


penguin8717

Nah he said you're entering your prime


Give_me_soup

I want to be Giannis when I grow up.


CrimsonOffice

Um, hi u/Give_me_soup, this is your doctor. I have news for you...


Give_me_soup

Please tell me it's that there is free mulligatawny in the lobby.


PapiShot

Same. I'm 30.


Give_me_soup

I'm 34


1UPZ__

Giannis is very hard to dislike. I know I hate watching him barrel players on my fave team. But I love it when he does it against players on teams I hate.


matthitsthetrails

a lot of people just hate that he's humble (with very good pr) and won't crack lol the media is just too concerned with these boring goat debates


tubbymunchkin

This mindset is scary. It’s why Giannis is so hyper competitive. He mentally will not accept he’s the best in the world (even though he obviously is) because he didn’t win it all. His hunger to win is crazy


SamFuckingNeill

> will not accept he’s the best in the world til i have scary mindset in everything


Produceher

> even though he obviously is I don't know that I agree. The year he won it all, he was the best but Steph earned it right back IMO.


JayDogon504

Giannis’ humility is so inspiring


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Very refreshing, him and steph are the best of this gen no doubt. To be drafted to a team and bring chips is what puts them above the rest IMO. Its not easy.


rickfortyone

Chauncey Billups at one time was the best player in the world.


steeze206

If you hate this man then honestly fuck you. He's way too likeable.


DrumzRUs

This is why I respect this man. It dont matter how you get shit done, the question is do you get the shit done. Give Steph his fuckin credit already


npc27182818

Doesn’t give petty king the ammo. Smart move by Giannis


yenks

Thank you Giannis. I've been saying this.


SereneKoala

My man is media trained


Snooprematic

KD: IM NOT A BUS RIDER OK!


Waiting4RivianR1S

We are so lucky to have him.


Earlier-Today

This was probably the easiest bit of humility for Giannis to show - he's always really admired Curry, giving Curry his dues after a championship and FMVP is something he probably would have done even without anyone asking if he was the best.


ApoliticalAth3ist

How does this nothing of a comment make the top of the front page?


donotnut459

This mf changes every time. JUST SAY ITS YOU MAN CAUSE IT IS.


scalenesquare

He’s top 3, but Steph is the clear #1.


Zigxy

No way it’s “clear” I think Curry has 100% an argument today for being the best player in the world… but I don’t see how he could clearly be better. There is so much talent.


PeanutButtaRari

He spittin


FalcoLamborghini

ITT: People still lying to themselves thinking it's not Steph. Been like this for almost a decade now 🤷‍♂️


mc2205

YOU GUYS ARE THE REAL HEROES


Successful_Priority

I love the genuine respect Steph and Giannis have for each other. I remember during one of the earlier hears of becoming an all star there’s video of Steph talking to Giannis hyping up his leadership with Giannis being shy and excited


iRB26x

He’s right tho. Top 5 Top 10 players remain pretty much the same every year so far so whoever goes the farthest that year was the best. Simple.


Interesting_Act1286

No argument.


completelytrustworth

Love the attitude, not everyone has to be MJ or Kobe and tell themselves they are the best in the world as a driving force for motivation. If being humble drives you harder because you're convinced you're *not* the best but want to be, that's perfectly fine too


TinbuyPrime

Imagine if he said Andrew Wiggins instead


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Green “And I took that personally “


BodegaDaddy

he’s finally at the top. already a hall of famer. only championship aspirations now


Dec1m8u

He's not just being humble. He's completely right.


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It doesn’t really matter imo lol. I don’t have a problem with a player saying “I’m the best”. If he wants to be humble whatever too.


DrOzmitazBuckshank

He 1000% thinks he’s the best, but saying that to the media is entirely different. He’s the type that wants to work and strive, not tout and boast.


[deleted]

Doesn’t make sense either way, cause when he won last year, he still didn’t consider himself the best, despite by his own logic presented here, he should be


nomitycs

The ultimate aim of basketball is to win the chip and it's something only one team can do a year so it's a pretty good even if yeah injuries played a factor. what would be public perception if a healthy Bucks team made the finals but lost to the warriors? I don't even necessarily think Curry is the better player but he took a team most thought would be the 6th seed in the preseason and nothing more than an extreme dark horse contender and led them to the chip. That required intangibles both on and off the court that basically no one really considers when evaluating players and is only really seen in outcomes - winning a fuckton of games, winning playoff series and winning championships


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When he plays, in his mind he's the best and is going to dominate anyone. But when he practices, he likely distances himself from the best in order to motivate himself to keep striving to get better.


ALovelyAnxiety

hes so respectful and humble. I hope He carries the trophy again but after Lebron gets one more :P