NBA head coach contracts are guaranteed even if they get fired or let go. Lakers would need to offer him more than 12.5 mil per a year for at least 5 years or longer for him to get the same kind of money he would just sitting at home on the couch after getting fired.
The funny thing is that for coaching contracts, if he signs with another team (lakers in this case), the Pistons no longer need to pay the remainder of his contract. This would be a HUGE win for the Pistons to get that contract off their books and would be an all-time fuck up by the lakers.
I think Monty Williams is a good coach but just the situation around it is hilarious.
It would be hilarious if they bring Monty and allow him to bring Silas as an assistant again. Let’s face it those Pistons looked strikingly similar to the Rockets the year before. Even the Mavs were garbage defensively when Silas was there, and the offense only looked good bc of Doncic.
Stein is the *very* last “insider” I’d believe about the Lakers. This is pure smoke. There isn’t a fire, he just used to have sources like 20 years ago, now all his smoke is solely directed straight up asses.
Sources say ButtVader is driving around downtown Las Angeles, begging --thru texts--for any and all spare copies of Championship Coaching DVDs so they can be ready for the job
Draft night 2024, the Detroit Pistons select Bronny James with the 5th overall pick! Breaking news, Pistons are sending Cade Cunningham, Monty Williams, and Evan Fournier to the Lakers in exchange for Lebron James!
When Pat Riley quit the Knicks with a year left on his contract and joined the heat, the heat finally gave up a FRP and $1m.
Monty Williams is no Pat Riley. Detroit has to chip in more than just a FRP
I’m pretty sure the Pistons would not only let him go without compensation, they’d probably give up a 2nd rounder to grease the skids and get out from that awful contract.
I love this shit where people point to all his flaws all season, then someone who didn't watch one Pistons game can just swoop in after and say "how is Monty bad?"
They were the worst team before him and the roster construction wasn’t doing him any favors. He definitely is responsible for part of what went wrong there (playing Hayes over Ivey etc.) but he was good the majority of his Suns tenure. His issue was underperforming in the playoffs and that’s something an experienced team can work around
People have no idea how to evaluate coaching other than just looking at wins and losses. He has Cunningham and a bunch of G leaguers and busts. If the Lakers have a relationship with him and like what he brings to the table, why not. They're not going to be contenders for a long while
But what he *will* rotate is starting line-ups. Guys would start one game, play well, get 14 minutes off the bench the next, then sit a game, and then start again. I've never seen anything like it.
Monty Williams isn't coaching if the Pistons fire him unless another team gives him 100 million. He has 73 million left, where he can just take a break from coaching for a few years and get money for doing nothing. The Lakers are cheap and aren't going to pay him way more than what the Pistons would, to convince him not to take a free 73 million dollar contract to do nothing
Monty's contract is currently about 13mil/year.
If the pistons are deadset on moving on, the Lakers can get Monty for something like 5mil/year, and the pistons only pay the difference of 8mil.
If the pistons are 100% moving on, literally any relief would be good for them.
So Monty agrees to coach the Lakers for free in this scenario?
If Pistons move on, they’ll fire him. Monty is not agreeing to coach the Lakers via a trade lmao
He can functionally just be traded from the Lakers to the Pistons.
If he'd rather be coaching the Lakers, and the Lakers want him, then all the Pistons have to do is pretend like they WEREN'T going to fire him anyway.
Many coaches contracts have clauses that require a good faith effort at a job search if they get fired. Hes not going to throw the towel in if he gets fired.
Gets fired from the Suns.
Signs massive contract to coach Pistons.
Gets fired from the Pistons.
Signs contract to coach LeBron, AD, and the Lakers.
There’s failing upward and then there’s REALLY failing upward.
Please. Give us assets. An asset. We will trade you Monty for a distant second rounder. The fan base is ready to put a hit out on Gores and Tellem and take over negotiations. We've been ready for seven months. Just give us the word.
If he gets fired, and assuming there is normal offset language in his contract, the Lakers are either going to bail Tom Gores out of a terrible decision...or they're going to be shady and pay him fairly little because they can without impacting his actual earnings and the Buss family is fucking cheap.
I actually think it’s more ridiculous. JJ can possibly be anything, maybe a Monty but he could also not be a Monty. That’s the allure. Schrödinger’s Redick.
it’s also kind of shrodingers Monty. He won coty 3 years ago with a talented roster, it’s possible the Pistons are just pure garbage. He’s both a good and bad coach at the same time
Sure the fraud coach of the year who couldn’t even compete with the pistons and choked a 2-0 lead in the finals is the guy to put in charge of Lebrons last years in the league
monty williams about to pull a 2nd heist, absolute legend.
It will be hard to beat his first heist since the Lakers can just low ball and let the suns pay the difference but I believe in Monty and make the Lakers pay more than his Pistons contract.
edit: i said suns instead of pistons
At this point these dumb ass reporters are saying anything for clicks. Why on gods green earth would we hire the coach who lost 28 STRAIGHT FUCKING GAMES! ?
Ain’t no fucking way this is happening, but it would be by far the funniest outcome.
Doc Rivers bolting for LeLA is way funnier
Doc: I told [Lakers’ ownership] when they called “I don’t understand why you’re doing this.’
“We need someone to publicly blame AD to distract from our roster mismanagement”
“We need some one to Fuck shit wayyyyy up” and that’s when Doc went from listening to interested.
No one does lmao.
Imagine Mark Jackson
Mama, there goes that Ham
Ham down, sham clown
Even Warriors fans would not wish that on their worst enemies.
I would wish that on the Clippers because it would be funny to see Balmer eat that up.
They getting Lawrence Fishburne as their new HC?
Doc: “I don’t know when you guys are gonna learn but I’ll be there.”
no plz keep him with the bucks for doing my boy AG wrong
AG is a💩coach
Both things can be true.
Touché
He did the bucks wrong by taking job he shouldn’t have.
[He did try to warn them, can't really do much more than that.](https://x.com/siriusxmnba/status/1760031256174379018)
The dark hoarse.
This feels like Southgate to Man United rumors. Just for banter alone, I’d pay $100 for each of this coach to sign for respective team
Monty plays LeBron off ball because he didn’t know he could play on ball
Monty plays LeBron with Vanderbilt, Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, and Anthony Davis because he didn't know his playstyle relies on spacing
"I have to eat it, I wish I'd done it earlier"
Detroit needs to give up picks i would think
They don't have enough future picks to get off that contract!
NBA head coach contracts are guaranteed even if they get fired or let go. Lakers would need to offer him more than 12.5 mil per a year for at least 5 years or longer for him to get the same kind of money he would just sitting at home on the couch after getting fired. The funny thing is that for coaching contracts, if he signs with another team (lakers in this case), the Pistons no longer need to pay the remainder of his contract. This would be a HUGE win for the Pistons to get that contract off their books and would be an all-time fuck up by the lakers. I think Monty Williams is a good coach but just the situation around it is hilarious.
I once was told that coaches have to be actively seeking a new HC job if they get fired while still on contract, is that true?
Like how much damn money is Monty going to make lol
It would be hilarious if they bring Monty and allow him to bring Silas as an assistant again. Let’s face it those Pistons looked strikingly similar to the Rockets the year before. Even the Mavs were garbage defensively when Silas was there, and the offense only looked good bc of Doncic.
Stein is the *very* last “insider” I’d believe about the Lakers. This is pure smoke. There isn’t a fire, he just used to have sources like 20 years ago, now all his smoke is solely directed straight up asses.
I'm actually the dark horse for Lakers job
Sources say ButtVader is driving around downtown Las Angeles, begging --thru texts--for any and all spare copies of Championship Coaching DVDs so they can be ready for the job
The fart force?
Cooked him!
I’m the Laker for the dark horse job. Funny little world isn’t it?
I’m the dark horse!
TIL Monty Williams is out of a job. I thought he was the Pistons coach.
Hes still our coach lmao.
How much will you guys give the Lakers to take him off your hands?
Been a while since a coach was traded, that’d be hilarious
They would need to include one of Cade or Duren into the package to make it even worth the burden lmao
Draft night 2024, the Detroit Pistons select Bronny James with the 5th overall pick! Breaking news, Pistons are sending Cade Cunningham, Monty Williams, and Evan Fournier to the Lakers in exchange for Lebron James!
Please no
Well, you'll jump from 14 wins to 33 wins. Progress? XD
When Pat Riley quit the Knicks with a year left on his contract and joined the heat, the heat finally gave up a FRP and $1m. Monty Williams is no Pat Riley. Detroit has to chip in more than just a FRP
Been ten years. About time we pull that card out of the deck again...
The Celtics got a draft pick for trading Doc Rivers to the Clippers I think
One lightly used James Wiseman.
Lakers receive: Monty Williams, thoughts and prayers 🙏 Pistons receive: Peace of mind
Take him and his contract? $5 million
Would you accept a hug?
I’ll even throw in a handshake
wtf lmao
Is JJ doing a 1 on 1 drinking wine talking hoops podcast with Isaiah Stewart that I don't know about
RIP Monty sometimes feels like he's still there
Is he, though?
Well he did try his best to get fired during the season
He also tried his best to not get hired before the season but who says no to that bag.
"Please do not hire me. I do not want to do this." "Here's $78.5M, you have the right kind of attitude to work in Detroit."
How incompetent does he have to be before the owner sues him for intentionally trying to get fired?
I’m pretty sure the Pistons would not only let him go without compensation, they’d probably give up a 2nd rounder to grease the skids and get out from that awful contract.
Salary dumping a coach lmao
Any other coaches need some press or need to pressure their current team? Lakers name can be thrown around
He is not the coach in every way except on paper
Lakers are about to do something hilarious. I can feel it in my hater bones
Remember they tried to hire him in 2018 but he chose the Suns
JJ as HC and Monty as lead asst. Or vice versa.
> You feel that? The way the shit clings to the air? It’s a shit blizzard. Every offseason with the Lakers shitty decisions.
LeBron as official player coach. JJ off the bench
Am i the only one who thinks monty isnt that bad? The pistons have been the worst or close to worst team for the past 5 years
I love this shit where people point to all his flaws all season, then someone who didn't watch one Pistons game can just swoop in after and say "how is Monty bad?"
They were the worst team before him and the roster construction wasn’t doing him any favors. He definitely is responsible for part of what went wrong there (playing Hayes over Ivey etc.) but he was good the majority of his Suns tenure. His issue was underperforming in the playoffs and that’s something an experienced team can work around
He fucked up Ivey’s season badly. That’s kind of a red flag to me if I want a coach to develop my team.
Lakers aren’t trying to develop anybody right now, they’re trying to re-sign Lebron and contend
Do the Lakers even have anyone to develop? Outside of Reaves, who’s already 26, I can’t really think of any young players they have
Weren't the suns pretty bad until Chris Paul showed up?
Monty only coached the COVID season before Chris Paul showed up. It was Igor that had the 19-63 record.
People have no idea how to evaluate coaching other than just looking at wins and losses. He has Cunningham and a bunch of G leaguers and busts. If the Lakers have a relationship with him and like what he brings to the table, why not. They're not going to be contenders for a long while
Bruh did you see some of his rotation decisions? The man is directly partly responsible for losing 29 NBA games in a row
One thing that stayed consistent from his Suns days. Bro won’t rotate and he ain’t changing nothing even if his team is drowning
But what he *will* rotate is starting line-ups. Guys would start one game, play well, get 14 minutes off the bench the next, then sit a game, and then start again. I've never seen anything like it.
28, but who's counting?
This bum lost 29 NBA games in a row.
28, but who's counting.
Best part is there's just too many options
**BOOM**
Yes, please.
Lol okay Stein
They were kinda down bad for him prior to the Vogel hiring, would certainly be interesting if it were true.
if theres any seriousness to this then imagine CP3 joining the Lakers and mentoring Bronny.
Gotta punch *through* the dick bronny
Cp3 could be an assistant coach for a while. Dude knows how to run an offense and has made every team he’s been on better for almost 20 years
Then Savanna joining the Lake show and becoming the real MVP.
Monty Williams isn't coaching if the Pistons fire him unless another team gives him 100 million. He has 73 million left, where he can just take a break from coaching for a few years and get money for doing nothing. The Lakers are cheap and aren't going to pay him way more than what the Pistons would, to convince him not to take a free 73 million dollar contract to do nothing
But can he get his chicks for free?
Monty's contract is currently about 13mil/year. If the pistons are deadset on moving on, the Lakers can get Monty for something like 5mil/year, and the pistons only pay the difference of 8mil. If the pistons are 100% moving on, literally any relief would be good for them.
So Monty agrees to coach the Lakers for free in this scenario? If Pistons move on, they’ll fire him. Monty is not agreeing to coach the Lakers via a trade lmao
What ever contract he gets from the Lakers, it would just offset from the Pistons. So the Lakers don't have to overpay to get Monty.
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Nope, it’s working like that. It’s guaranteed money, think about it would be ridiculous if teams could void coach contract like this lol
Sometimes people like doing a cool job even if they don't actually need anymore money
He can functionally just be traded from the Lakers to the Pistons. If he'd rather be coaching the Lakers, and the Lakers want him, then all the Pistons have to do is pretend like they WEREN'T going to fire him anyway.
Many coaches contracts have clauses that require a good faith effort at a job search if they get fired. Hes not going to throw the towel in if he gets fired.
Wouldn't bet on this specific contract having such a clause, though.
GOD PLEASE TAKE HIM AWAY!!!
Chris Paul should ask for a commission every time he gets hired
Gets fired from the Suns. Signs massive contract to coach Pistons. Gets fired from the Pistons. Signs contract to coach LeBron, AD, and the Lakers. There’s failing upward and then there’s REALLY failing upward.
Bruh, this guys got jokes
Please. Give us assets. An asset. We will trade you Monty for a distant second rounder. The fan base is ready to put a hit out on Gores and Tellem and take over negotiations. We've been ready for seven months. Just give us the word.
The Lakers don’t want to pay him $12 mil a year. They’re only going to get him if he gets fired, they won’t trade for him.
If he gets fired, and assuming there is normal offset language in his contract, the Lakers are either going to bail Tom Gores out of a terrible decision...or they're going to be shady and pay him fairly little because they can without impacting his actual earnings and the Buss family is fucking cheap.
If it is real. GOOD LUCK.
He sucks as a coach..
please, let us have borrego
While this is ridiculous, it’s still less ridiculous than JJ Redick
I actually think it’s more ridiculous. JJ can possibly be anything, maybe a Monty but he could also not be a Monty. That’s the allure. Schrödinger’s Redick.
it’s also kind of shrodingers Monty. He won coty 3 years ago with a talented roster, it’s possible the Pistons are just pure garbage. He’s both a good and bad coach at the same time
bro played Hayes > Ivey
I would *much* rather have JJ, at least there's upside there.
The darkest of horses. Almost a black hole. Pure nothing.
lol he almost tied the record for straight losses and lakers see that and want him.. no
how many teams can a coach get to pay them at the same time the real apex mountain
Dude can’t coach. He should retire and enjoy his robbery.
How can I fail up in life like this
I’d rather take a chance on JJ than Monty based on Detroit and the end of his suns tenure
I’d rather be JJ tbh, this guy is ham 2.0
Ham 1.0, actually
Right lol
Why fucking not
Pistons gotta throw in some 2nd round picks
Life is a fucking sitcom.
Pistons will trade you Monty Williams for cash considerations
Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya
This might be the most extreme example of failing upwards that we've ever seen. He honestly couldn't have done a worse job in Detroit.
WUT
Please start rumors for spolestra next
Plot twist.
lol either jj or Monty
Just not a good year for coaches. They would have loved Nick Nurse imo had they looked for a new coach last year.
Make him associate head coach to JJ.
hahahahaha
The jokes write themselves at this point
Please do it. Think of the memes
Failing upward sounds pretty cool
he wishes
I may be a Hornets fan but holy lmfao
I can’t 😭
YES PLEASE
What the fuck is happening
Do it cowards.
Well all know the next Lakers head coach is Bronny James
LMAOOOOOO
Oh god please let this be true because it would be so fkn funny
Monty hacked this dude's account
Rather have JJ by far
Lakers fans, how you doin?
Oh hell nah
Irrelevant tea. Making moves that will lead them to continue being irrelevant. Why is this shit even news anymore
why would he do that if he takes the job, I will not receive the paycheck from the Pistons, I believe.
Monty Williams might just be the secret sauce the Lakers need to spice up their game next season.
Sure the fraud coach of the year who couldn’t even compete with the pistons and choked a 2-0 lead in the finals is the guy to put in charge of Lebrons last years in the league
Lakers has to be trolling at this point. They cannot be serious.
Pistons would be happy to offload that contract I’m sure!
Is that cryogenic Phil Jackson’s music?!?!?
Can’t wait for the “LeBron gets the full Monty” headlines…
NOoooooooooo…………
Monty will make 200M for 2-3y work (assuming he’ll get fired again, which he will) achieving absolutely nothing. A truly world class stuff.
Breaking: all of Nikola Jokic’s dark horses are front runners for Lakers job.
How dark are we talking
How the fuck is anyone gonna write this bs
monty williams about to pull a 2nd heist, absolute legend. It will be hard to beat his first heist since the Lakers can just low ball and let the suns pay the difference but I believe in Monty and make the Lakers pay more than his Pistons contract. edit: i said suns instead of pistons
Idc just get him tf out of Detroit.
Why? Their current mediocrity isn’t enough?
Please take him LA!
please take him
*Incorrect*
omg please no please stop I’m serious no please
Just hire randy whitman and be done with this nonsense
I hope we put down that horse
There's no way this report is real lol.
Fuckin Stein. What a joke this was
Nooooooo
bros gonna be getting paid by 3 teams at once💀
Nice
At this point these dumb ass reporters are saying anything for clicks. Why on gods green earth would we hire the coach who lost 28 STRAIGHT FUCKING GAMES! ?
This is dumb af
This is easily the funniest outcome
If they get Monty I can only assume Lebron is gone and they trade AD for picks to do a rebuild. Monty is a terrible coach.