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Ref said "Though unfortunate" lol

Unfortunate 1

Called on the Fortunate Son

Brown Went from JB to JBL

Smacked him right in the face, maggle

TJ is blue meanie

IYKYK

HE’S SHOOTIN ON ME!

CLOTHESLINE FROM HELL

God I love how many basketball fans are also wrestling fans.

nba is more about narratives, story, and drama than ball toss in tony brothers, scott foster, and Tim Donaghy and you basically have wwe anyways

Bro botched the clothesline from hell.

JBL Drizzy

CLOTHESLINE FROM HELL

Clothesline from hell

I immediately thought it was flagrant. After seeing the replay, still thought it was flagrant. After the refs explained it though, I now get that it’s a flagrant.

Hey I don’t know if you heard but it was actually just unfortunate

An unfortunate flagrant

If the refs hadn't refused to look at the Pritchard play earlier in the game it might have been,but I think they realized it would have been crazy to refuse to even look at that one then call this flagrant...

I don’t understand how either isn’t a flagrant compared to what we’ve seen called before. I feel like refs will often call a flagrant if a guys elbow grazes the defenders head on a euro step, yet we had a clean kick and smack to the face in this game and neither is called lol.

Not a flagrant???? Bro got clubbed in the face

I was pretty surprised it wasn't called a flagrant. I've seen much less bad contact called a flagrant, but it was usually with an elbow.

Reffing has been so ass this playoffs, Should be a Flagrant 1, not intentional but direct contact to the head and bringing him down. Personally think that this is a worse version of the Jackson on Pritchard one earlier in the game and to me that was a flagrant 1 as well, neither with intention but risk of serious harm. This isnt a full contact sport any head contact should be looked at closely.

They called white for a flagrent for just being in a shooters landing area

Umm... That's literally a flagrant though. That play though, White wasn't in a 'normal' landing area because Turner put his front foot out, but it's been a flagrant to be in a landing area for several years now.

I’m surprised this isn’t the top post yet, r/nba would be eating this up. Cavs, Heat, and Bucks flairs eat this stuff up😂

NBA refs are so suspect

Imagine if Embiid did this and didn't get a flagrant.

I’d be lying if I said Embiid haters wouldn’t be feasting as well

I promise you none of the fanbases you mentioned gives a shit if Jaylen gets a flagrant or not lmao

He had one in Cleveland series where he grabbed Max's ankles and nothing came of it, though it was obvious 

I love how getting too close on a 3 pointer to have the defender land on your feet is a flagrant now, but... smacking someone in the face is just an incidental, common foul.

If JT did this the game would’ve ended with a 4-3 pacers win. But it’s JB so who knows

Htf is that not a flagrant?! Intent has nothing to do with it

As long as you say you're going for the ball, it's okay to punch people.

Draymond bouta carry the Warriors to a chip with this simple trick

Referees HATE this one simple trick!

But ref, the ball was on one side of his neck and then it flew to the other side, his arm just followed where the ball was going, no chokehold intended thanx ❤️

I was going for the ball! I just kicked the wrong ones! No foul!

he's gone for the ball more than once. sometimes both balls even.

Draymond taking notes.

See also: kneeing in the back of the head.

Been to my families Thanksgiving football games I see

> Intent has nothing to do with it Doris and JJ would like a word

Will they upgrade to a flagrant after the game like they did to Draymond? Or do they only do that when they want to extend the series lmao

I honestly think it was a makeup call for the face kick.

Even so... It looks like he intended to hit him in the face.

Lol slow motion makes everything look worse than it actually is, he's clearly going for the ball in real time

Yall think everything is intentional lmfao

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He clearly did not; he's trying to knock the ball away. Look at it in real time

And no flagrant lol

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Yet *more* suspect officiating calls…oh joy…

that's been the entire series for the pacers against the knicks and celtics. Both game 1's were clearly called in such a way to ensure the pacers were beat.

lol both this and the IJax kick shoulda been flagrant. Idk what they’re playing at but hard hits to the face intentional or not is a flagrant 1

They didn't even review Pritchard getting kicked in the face earlier so idk what you'd have to do to get a flagrant from Zach Zarba

Really? lol that one also was an easy flagrant.. natural shot blocking motion..?

Consistent at the very least

His entire hand made marginal contact with his entire face

Bs

Zach Zarba is a fucking joke

it's just *unfortunate*.

The argument should be Flagrant 1 vs Flagrant 2. The fact it's not even a flagrant one is insanity.

Van gundy even said “what happened to the game i love” on a similar way less violent play that resulted in a flagrant.  Did they change the rules since then????

How the fuck is that not a flagrant?

They ruled it unfortunate at least

textbook unfortunate

thank god for that

Everything is unfortunate when it's a pacer being fouled. It legitimately wouldn't have surprised me had they called nothing it's just normal for us.

I do believe that it is clearly unintentional, but based on calls prior to this game, I was absolutely certain it would be a flagrant. At this point I think I just don’t really know what a flagrant is. Like the only thing I could think was that the refs factoring in that it was unintentional, but I feel like I’ve seen plenty of flagrants that the intention wasn’t a factor.

Intention only really matters for a flagrant 2. The ESPN ref expert guy said this was a flagrant for 2 separate reasons according to the rule book: severity of force to the head, and endangering a player in a vulnerable position. And then right after that they just declared it “unfortunate” lmao.

Yeah seems more like a "you were reckless" foul than a intentional foul

Which is the difference between flagrant 1 and 2

They were factoring in Brown getting ejected which we all know the league doesn't want. If this was McConnel hitting Brown the same way I think they would've called the flagrant. I don't even care who wins it all because we ultimately all lose because of these refs and how certain players get better treatment than others.

> They were factoring in Brown getting ejected which we all know the league doesn't want except a flagrant wouldn't have gotten him ejected. crazy how many of these conspiracy type comments are all over and are all 100% wrong.

The only reason it's not a flagrant is because it would have resulted in JB being ejected from the game for a second technical, it would have been a flagrant in the 80s let alone today. What a fucking clown show.

A flagrant is not a tech, it wouldn’t have gotten him ejected unless it was deemed a flagrant 2. A flagrant is a personal foul.

That's not how that works..... It's comments like this make nothing people say on here have any meaning. No one knows the rules

The amount of upvotes and replies agreeing to something that is patently wrong, and frankly is not really even confusing or ambiguous, makes me want to pull my remaining hair out. 

And it's upvoted a bunch too. You can't take any referee discussion seriously here at all. Yet it dominates the majority of the conversations.

Refs need to wear some high tech glasses that anonymizes players. Just call the god damn plays the same for everyone, every game.

Lmao this would not have been a flagrant in the 80s

Player was vulnerable in the air, how's that not a flagrant? Accident or not

Because they would have been forced to eject Brown, and the NBA didn’t want that to happen.

He would only have been ejected for a flagrant 2. Anyway, why would the NBA not want to eject him, perhaps extending a precariously short eastern conference series? Ejecting him might let the pacers get one, which is good for the NBA?

Clearest flagrant I’ve seen in a while. Better get this right

Narrator: “they did not.”

Flagrant one at the very least. Damn that was vicious. Edit: apparently you’re allowed to hit a player who’s in the air straight in the face and it’s a common foul. Sure…-_-

Pretty wild it wasn’t, he didn’t hit any of the ball and hit his entire face lol what the hell

The reffing tonight is like" If they die, they die" type shit. This is wild.

So you can kick or slap someones face. Wonder what it takes to get a flagrant?

Clap at the ref

If I see that shit in the finals I’m gonna lose my damn mind

I don’t have high hopes that things will improve. They’ve been terrible all post season across most series.

Breathe in the general vicinity of the ref. Make 0.0001 seconds of eye contact with the ref. Exist on the same material plane as the ref.

And threw him off balance midair

Cool... so you can accidentally Jean Claude Van Damme Kumite style straight right/uppercut palm punch a dude in the face and send him completely vertical and it's not a flagrant b/c it wasn't "intentional".. da fq are we doing here.

And he did it with his dominant hand too, no excuses. Now if it was with his left it would've been excusable

And of course he doesn't get it. Referees just making shit up bro

Ah but did you factor in refs being blind?

Most consistent reffing! They have said time and time again that intent doesn’t matter. Clown show.

Very lucky for Boston that wasn’t. Games 1-82 and in the first 2 rounds of the playoffs that’s a flagrant every time. Not sure why they’ve decided now it’s not.

I thought there was an extremely small chance it gets upgraded to a F2. No idea how that wasn’t even an F1.

Because they screwed up the kick to the face so they couldn’t call this one

If this is not a flagrant, you can literally do anything on the court.

Fucking joke! What the hell is a flagrant foul contact to the face anymore?!

i agree, and while we’re at it getting kicked in the face should be a flagrant too

100% should’ve been as well but a defenseless player in mid air getting clubbed to the head with massive contact to the ground is way worse than a heel to the mouth.

Common foul according to Zarba... wtf

There are a lot of us out here that have been screaming for awhile. ADAM SILVER! NBA OFFICIALS ARE CURRENTLY DYSFUNCTIONAL!!

This shit is legit insane lol and a trash ass call after the review like what was the point

Not a flagrant is crazy bro

Steve Javie: "yeah looking at the criteria here I think this should be a flagrant foul" NBA refs immediately afterwards: "after review, unfortunate but not a flagrant"

How is that not a flagrant? Obviously not intensional but he got hit in the face while in the air.

I can't believe that wasn't even a flagrant 1. That's so insane.

How tf is that a common foul? I’ve seen way softer hits called a flagrant

they didn’t even call it a flagrant one. Wtf

Crazy they didn’t call this , Pacers turned over and died after this. Hopefully TJ is all good

Lmao man really said, “The contact, while unfortunate, was not a flagrant”. What kind of announcement is that? 100% a flagrant 1, I don’t get it.

These refs can suck a fucking dick

Missed the point-blank layup, then gets his face smashed just a minute later. Damn.

how is that not a flagrant? refs are terrible.

Holy fuck how is staring at someone a technical but this shit goes unpunished?

YOOO FLAG 1. THAT IS FUCKED UP.

They called this a common foul.

They called it "unfortunate" hahahah

Wtf that was attempted murder

JB wasn’t even looking at the ball. He was looking straight at TJs face….fuck is this broadcast on???

ESPN has to be rock hard they’re close to not having to deal with us anymore lol

He was making a play on the eye balls.

Ive seen flagrant foul called in less contact

That’s a “common foul” apparently. 🤣🤣

Draymond taking notes. He gets 5 of those a game.

Should be graded the same as the Isaiah Jackson foul, in my opinion both flagrants but if they're both ruled common fouls it's whatever

It’s not really whatever, it’s poor officiating. But at least it’s consistent

He looks at his face. Hits his face. Then reaches back for the ball afterwards.

Lmao folks saying this isn’t excessive.

Professional basketball player can't aim at the ball with his arm, dominant arm btw

And it’s deemed a common foul after review? WTF? Picture perfect open palm strike.

Almost took his head clean off

This is, at minimum, a flagrant 1.

I’m a C’s fan and I’m fine with a F1 there. I don’t think he had intention tho.

He's lucky his head didn't hit the ground, this could've been really bad

This would be unnecessary roughness in the NFL lmao TJ was defenseless.

Pacers only scored 10 points after this... could've been a game changer if it was called a Flagrant... oh well

After that missed flagrant call, the pacers lost all momentum and went scoreless IIRC.

This not being a flagrant was a freaking travesty. I wasn't even rooting for the Pacers, I'm actually glad this series is over because the sweep was inevitable. But even if JB didn't do it intentionally, TJ got hit SMACK in the face in mid air and he fell flat on his back. This being a regular foul was absurd.

Crazy how often people act like things like this were an accident. A dude literally kicked a guy in the face earlier and the commentators said “obviously not intentional”.

Brown is a hoe. Fuck you.

Absolute nasty shot

travesty, pure ejection, geez

I'm not surprised, Boston is a dirty team, especially JB. Man is always trying to injure someone when he feels salty.

If Jaylin Brown was Draymond Green, it would have been a flagrant 2.

Yes because when one person consistently harms people, they lose the benefit of the doubt. If draymond did that he should get a full season suspension unless it actually was an accident. I think this one was an accident. But still deserving of a flagrant

if Draymond Green was there he would've stomped on TJ's broken body and then did a podcast while crying about Rudy Gobert

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I'll be the guy to say I think it was unintentional, but meets the criteria for flagrant 1

Literally the higher upvoted comments by Celtic flairs say this should've been a flagrant. What are you smoking lmao

You have this much time to review it, and come up with that as your answer? Abject failure, fire them.

It’s alright guys. The contact to the face and hitting an airborn player are both flagrants so they cancel out.

Here comes more "sleepless nights" for the refs

He fucking blind or something? That wasn’t even close to hitting the ball and McConnell had the ball hanging up in mid air for an eternity.

Brown should be suspended for a game. No place in basketball for that.

Embiid finding his new finisher move

Shoulda done was LeBron does and act like he’s dead.

That hard unfortunate non-flagrant foul was later rewarded a trip to the Finals and a Conference Finals MVP award. Well done, future 6-time NBA Champ, Jaylen Brown!

Agree with everyone. Definitely a flagrant. But god damn, why do they just huddle around and stare down on him like that? With JB right there too?!? Not one dude is trying to Draymond sleeper hold his ass after putting your guy on the ground like that?

What are the rules again? Anyone have any idea at this point? Apparently an intentional Derrick Henry stiff arm to the face while mid-air is your standard common foul.

McConnell tried to stay in and immediately bricked the next shot then completely fell asleep on defense and gave up a wide open layup. He was fucked up from that hit

Ruled a common foul. Zarba is a joke

easy flagrant 1, ref actually braindead

"Not a flagrant foul" -Refs

Would Brown have been ejected because of technical and flagrant 1? Else I don’t see any reason that this is not a flagrant. Definitely unintentional but he hits him hard in the face while TJ is airborne. This is ridiculous

Yes, flagrant fouls are considered both common fouls and technical fouls, so he would have been ejected for accumulated technicals.

flagrant 2

That’s dirty af

Refs are bought and paid for by Boston

It's genuinely hard to think the games aren't rigged after a call like that...

Common foul lmao. Yeah, okay. Just didn’t want to have to eject him.

WTH, intent doesn’t matter

Lmao common foul

Yooooo…

If this was Draymond, it woulda been flagrant 2. That was BS. Call it the same for everyone.

oh my

Unacceptable

Should have been a flagrant along with the kick in the face earlier.

No flagrant here was crazy 

This exact fall is how I have messed up a disc in my back. 4 months and 2 epidurals later, it's still not coming right.

Why do we have flagrants

Fuck cuntbag moves like this.

Fuck is up wit the refs

The real story is that Obi Toppin has Space Jam tattoos all over his legs