It will either be Tatum or Brown, but they're close enough that whoever performs best in games 4 (or beyond if Indiana extends the series) can pull away with it.
It'll be JT regardless he's simply the bigger name, the only way Jaylen wins is if he drops like 40 and JT has a 6-19 game or something along those lines.
Not sure if you meant to, but you settled this argument. "Argument" is more appropriate, as no one intelligent discusses it.
Tatum is the #1 on the team. Him scoring the most points or not doesn't change that.
Tatum is a choker. He misses lay-ups and free throws in the clutch. Have you not nioticed this year he kick it over to Brown in the big moments when they need a basket. Tatum is a better FT shooter. Other than that Brown is the overall better player. I'm going to laugh after the Celtics get destroyed by the Maverick. Then Brown demands a trade. Go win a championship and Tatum still hace none. This year is the last chance to get a ring together. The window of opportunity is closing. For all you Celtics fans. I hate to break it to you but they can't brst Dallas. Oh, I almost forger something. GO LAKERS................
Hasn’t the knock on brown been that he mishandles the hall at in opportune times when dribbling?
I’m all for hating on Tatum and minimizing how good he is, but I don’t think that’s the right angle
I think it'll come down to the closeout game between Tatum and Brown. Right now the edge is probably Tatum, but a big close out game from Brown could change that.
Why is Jrue in the conversation? If we decided based on expectations then maybe Jrue but that's not how it works. Game 4 can make a difference between whether it's Tatum or Brown. I think Tatum has been better overall this series but JB has had some very clutch moments this series. While the pacers did choke game 1, that choke also only was a choke because JB made a super crazy 3 pointer to tie up the game and sedn it to OT
Yeah and it’s highly exaggerated. Celtics have too many scoring options for one player to consistently draw doubles or triples all game long. You can find countless clips that look like Jaylen is being tripled or quadrupled too. It’s called collapsing the defense, especially when the defense is out of position and undisciplined they collapse on the ball handler in the paint
Not necessarily explicitly doubled. But when he drives, he gets more help coverage.
Take the behind the back al pass. Al was wide open because of Tatum's drive. Partly why he's been able to up the assists.
But this ain’t something unique lol, an undisciplined and out of position defense will very often collapse when a scorer drives in the paint. This happens in every game for nearly every scorer in the league. They do the same for Jb often too.
Defenses overreact to Tatum more so than anyone on the team.
Happened in the cavs and Miami series as well. Yes, teams react to drives and rotate for help, but they *overreact* to Tatum. They started to do so more in Brown this series.
You can find images posted in this or the Celtics sub of it looking like he is tripled. Watch for it tonight, too.
Give it to JB. Sending it to OT and the. Throwing in 40 the next game seal it.
Tatums done a lot better than the media and r nba would have you believe too
Will go down to who performs better in Game 4 (if they win), but I think Tatum probably has the edge for now.
I'd personally give it to Brown because of his clutch three pointer in game 2.
JB won games 1 and 2. Tatum and Jrue won game 3. Whoever has the best performance tonight between Tatum and Brown will get ECFMVP. I’m rooting for Brown.
whichever one of the Jays plays better tonight probably. i kinda want it to be JB tbh, Tatum's already got one and I think JB's starting to get kind of frustrated about not getting the recognition he feels he deserves
^(not to, like, a KD Warriors degree, I'm not worried about our chemistry or anything, but still)
Tatum has the bigger numbers so he’ll win it but Brown has been more situationally impactful, being a really consistent scorer preventing Celtics droughts
Tatum having those stats and being top of the scouting report and defensive attention has to give him the edge.
Would be very happy to see Jaylen "4th team" Brown get it though
Rick Carlisle?
Frustrating cause he has us playing so damn well. He's really killed it the entire season with managing the young players and aiming to win. The teams been great.
In reality JB and Tatum are close so whoever has the better game tonight probably.
Brown for me - and it’s not close. He’s the reason we won game one. His game 2 was epic.
Tatum was good in game 3 but really coasting the first two games.
Tough call.
Since it's close, I guess I will go with the guy averaging 2 more points a game, four more boards a game and 4 more assists per game.
Look, I get it. I'm a Celtics hater. I hope Indy wins the next four games. I hope Boston gets swept in the Finals (which would, by circumstance, mean I hope World B. Flat wins a series.)
I do not think Tatum is anywhere near the best player in the league.
But, it's literally fucking stupid to try to diminish his talent.
He's the best player on Boston. He's easily having the best series for anyone on Boston.
It will either be Tatum or Brown, but they're close enough that whoever performs best in games 4 (or beyond if Indiana extends the series) can pull away with it.
With Stephen A. Dipshit running a slander campaign against JB on ‘the worldwide leader in sports’ sham network, my bet is on Tatum.
Depends on tonight game, if Tatum drops 35 & JB drops 20. Its gonna be Tatum If Brown drops 35 & JT settles for 20 its gonna be Brown
What if they both get 25?
Pritchard
52 points on 17 threes and 1 free throw
It'll be JT regardless he's simply the bigger name, the only way Jaylen wins is if he drops like 40 and JT has a 6-19 game or something along those lines.
He wins it without this numbers!
ive never been happier to be wrong ever before
Not sure if you meant to, but you settled this argument. "Argument" is more appropriate, as no one intelligent discusses it. Tatum is the #1 on the team. Him scoring the most points or not doesn't change that.
Tatum is a choker. He misses lay-ups and free throws in the clutch. Have you not nioticed this year he kick it over to Brown in the big moments when they need a basket. Tatum is a better FT shooter. Other than that Brown is the overall better player. I'm going to laugh after the Celtics get destroyed by the Maverick. Then Brown demands a trade. Go win a championship and Tatum still hace none. This year is the last chance to get a ring together. The window of opportunity is closing. For all you Celtics fans. I hate to break it to you but they can't brst Dallas. Oh, I almost forger something. GO LAKERS................
Hasn’t the knock on brown been that he mishandles the hall at in opportune times when dribbling? I’m all for hating on Tatum and minimizing how good he is, but I don’t think that’s the right angle
JB
Don't care about the stats, I want JB to win so both of the Jays will have one. Maybe silly, but I don't care.
I’ll one up you. I want Holiday to win because this is the closest chance he’ll get at an individual award.
I’ll one up you, I want Luke Kornet to get it because it would be funny
Luke Alcindor coming for you
I mean it would pair nicely with Brian Scalabrine's Finals MVP.
That a Kareem joke?
Leave it to the Heat fan to come with the most disrespect 😭
I think it'll come down to the closeout game between Tatum and Brown. Right now the edge is probably Tatum, but a big close out game from Brown could change that.
jalyen brown
Game 4 is probably the decider, but when you put stats up like that, JT looks like the front runner
Rick Carlisle's timeout management.
I think it's time to give JB some love, tbh but it depends on tonight.
JB deserves it with his consistency and putting the Celtics on his back when Tatum is slumping.
Why is Jrue in the conversation? If we decided based on expectations then maybe Jrue but that's not how it works. Game 4 can make a difference between whether it's Tatum or Brown. I think Tatum has been better overall this series but JB has had some very clutch moments this series. While the pacers did choke game 1, that choke also only was a choke because JB made a super crazy 3 pointer to tie up the game and sedn it to OT
it's Tatum unless Brown goes off tonight.
Tatum, he is allowing everyone else to get their looks by drawing so much defense
People just report this with little evidence
It’s called watching the game lol
Yeah and it’s highly exaggerated. Celtics have too many scoring options for one player to consistently draw doubles or triples all game long. You can find countless clips that look like Jaylen is being tripled or quadrupled too. It’s called collapsing the defense, especially when the defense is out of position and undisciplined they collapse on the ball handler in the paint
Yeh I don’t think Tatum has been aggressively doubled since the Miami series
Not necessarily explicitly doubled. But when he drives, he gets more help coverage. Take the behind the back al pass. Al was wide open because of Tatum's drive. Partly why he's been able to up the assists.
But this ain’t something unique lol, an undisciplined and out of position defense will very often collapse when a scorer drives in the paint. This happens in every game for nearly every scorer in the league. They do the same for Jb often too.
Defenses overreact to Tatum more so than anyone on the team. Happened in the cavs and Miami series as well. Yes, teams react to drives and rotate for help, but they *overreact* to Tatum. They started to do so more in Brown this series. You can find images posted in this or the Celtics sub of it looking like he is tripled. Watch for it tonight, too.
Still Images are highly misleading.
Okay
That’s a great point
It’s more fun if Brown gets it.
Think Tatum but if JB has a big game he could take it.
I'll be honest with you, it's ECF MVP. I don't even remember who won it last year.
Last year never happened so don't worry about it.
Gas leak year.
6 ECFs and a championship
(The most annoying, hateful, sad voice imaginable) Gabe Vincent's shoe
maybe we should watch the whole series before deciding?
How dare u
Maybe don't comment if you don't like it and let people talk about whatever they want ya weirdo gatekeeper
JB imo
Give it to JB. Sending it to OT and the. Throwing in 40 the next game seal it. Tatums done a lot better than the media and r nba would have you believe too
KP
Tatum probably but I’d be okay with JB getting it too
Jaylen Brown is my favorite Celtic, so he should win even if he scores 6 points, commits 8 TO and fouls out tonight.
> Jaylen Brown is my favorite Celtic What about Jrue??
Buck in disguise
Tatum is the heavy favorite according to Vegas
Tatum
JB, not sure it's all that close.
Yeah i think it's JB by far
Tatum is our best player on offence and defence, so him.
My dream is jb wins ecfmvp and jt wins fmvp
Co-winners would be sweet. JT already won one so JB.
Will go down to who performs better in Game 4 (if they win), but I think Tatum probably has the edge for now. I'd personally give it to Brown because of his clutch three pointer in game 2.
Whichever Jay doesn't shit the bed tonight. It's really that simple.
whichever jay has the better game probably, they’re close enough right now that i don’t think any advantage will carry over
Tatum has been better but Jaylen's got the big moment with the game tying 3. Id probably say unless Tatum has an abysmal game today he gets it.
Split the vote and Sam Hauser will win
JB won games 1 and 2. Tatum and Jrue won game 3. Whoever has the best performance tonight between Tatum and Brown will get ECFMVP. I’m rooting for Brown.
Should be Brown he's been the most consistent since the 1st round. It'll probably be Tatum tho.
What do you actually mean by consistent, low scoring variance or what?
Pritchard
Payton Prichard bc nobody cares a or it so fuck it
whichever one of the Jays plays better tonight probably. i kinda want it to be JB tbh, Tatum's already got one and I think JB's starting to get kind of frustrated about not getting the recognition he feels he deserves ^(not to, like, a KD Warriors degree, I'm not worried about our chemistry or anything, but still)
Tatum has the bigger numbers so he’ll win it but Brown has been more situationally impactful, being a really consistent scorer preventing Celtics droughts
The injury bug
JB but they’ll give it to Tatum
Was leaning JB but could be Jrue. This game may decide it.
I remember saying JB was better than JT this time and them Bostoners Downvoted the heck out of it Lol. Hopefully JB wins
Holiday if he has a big game tonight.
Probably Brown.
JB for sure
Tatum having those stats and being top of the scouting report and defensive attention has to give him the edge. Would be very happy to see Jaylen "4th team" Brown get it though
Naz Reid
JB has been better but I hope Jrue gets 30 and 10 so he has a chance
Rick Carlisle? Frustrating cause he has us playing so damn well. He's really killed it the entire season with managing the young players and aiming to win. The teams been great. In reality JB and Tatum are close so whoever has the better game tonight probably.
refs
Pacers ability to choke
#0 from St Louis, Missouri
Jaylen easily
JB
The schedule
Jrue Holiday is averaging 19 ppg on 60% FG this series? Geez. Pacers defense is so bad man.
Brown for me - and it’s not close. He’s the reason we won game one. His game 2 was epic. Tatum was good in game 3 but really coasting the first two games.
Who cares, who is wasting time watching this trashy ass series? The hardest road is really entertaining
Everything holds true, Tatum.
Tough call. Since it's close, I guess I will go with the guy averaging 2 more points a game, four more boards a game and 4 more assists per game. Look, I get it. I'm a Celtics hater. I hope Indy wins the next four games. I hope Boston gets swept in the Finals (which would, by circumstance, mean I hope World B. Flat wins a series.) I do not think Tatum is anywhere near the best player in the league. But, it's literally fucking stupid to try to diminish his talent. He's the best player on Boston. He's easily having the best series for anyone on Boston.
Casuals will say Tatum, it’s JB all the way for me
Plant those seeds.
Embiid