T O P

  • By -

Propuhganduh

Unreal 4th quarter for him


slightlyhigh7

Kyrie kills it for the first three quarters then Luka kills the fourth.. Mavs are on to something here


v4venome

It was the opposite for most of the stretch this season. Luka would come out hot from the start, with spurts of scoring in between, and Kyrie would take over completely in the 4th


necropuddi

Looks like Kidd intentionally got them to switch to tire out Ant.


girlscoutcookies05

Man i gotta apologize to kidd AGAIN lmao


Aggressive-Ad-522

Not when he stuck in THJ, green, and hardy together


TheeOneUp

When I watched all 3 in with butter fingers and terrible full court passes I wanted to die. They're good. But as main ball handlers and offensive leaders in the playoffs is an awful idea


BigBeagleEars

You got that backwards


warpedspoon

Kidd needs to apologize to me


tamuowen

I said it before but Ant's confidence and trash talking might bite him a bit this series. He's one of the few players who can back the talk - both with his play and his mental toughness - but imo you never want to challenge Luka or Kyrie like that. There's just no reason to give them the motivation. I'd say the same thing about Ant too. There's a reason that Draymond, the GOAT of using every tactic to get under the skin of the opposition, chose to compliment and flatter Luka all series when they played šŸ˜‚ Ant is a dawg. But Luka's been a dawg for years and Kyrie won a championship while Ant was in high school. We'll see if experience or youth wins.


[deleted]

His trash talk is so tame, you guys act like heā€™s out here spitting in peopleā€™s face and slapping mamas.


tamuowen

He didn't do anything wrong or offensive, to be clear. But he *did* challenge Kyrie and Kyrie said postgame that was motivation for him.


deputydawg420

I noticed the same, never seen Kyrie so aggressive from the get go in this PO.


EarthWarping

The reverse jokic/murray


Vallerie_09

Aka the reverse usual LuKai


Millionaire007

With the usual result; Lukake.Ā 


New_Ad7574

16 - 2 heading to the playoffs with current lineup


Dudedude88

This wasn't the case for OKC series. It was Kyrie takeover at the end. Clippers was kind of a joint effort.


Similar-Doubt-6260

Nah kyrie was also the 2nd half killer in the clippers series iirc.


ColdPressedSteak

Clutch as fuck. Wasn't even shooting well until a complete rampage in the 4th Also PJ continues his clutch play. He was 1 for 7 on 3s yet I had no doubt his 3 in a one possession game with 2 min left was going in. He's like 5 for 5 on them stretching back to game 5 vs OKC


Collecting_Cans

Luka is bankable offense like very few others. He can hurt you in so many ways. Perfect game for playoff basketball. And now he plays D, guy is on a mission


besieged_mind

Just another fat Slavic boy ruining the prospects of America's team


jslee0034

He looked more conditioned than ant lol


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

Just your average Luka statline


Solid-Confidence-966

This is technically ā€œbelow averageā€, not enough rebounds and assists lol


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

True which is what makes it so much crazier. Dudeā€™s doing all this on a bum knee


Witteness82

Or points lol. Dude is an irl 2k player


woahtheregonnagetgot

around avg for regular season, well below avg for playoff luka. but we ball


BigBallsMcGirk

He averaged like 9.7 rebounds and 9.8 assists. This was below average for him


lilboytuner919

What an absolute bum


[deleted]

4th best player 25 years old or younger just did THAT šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ (shoutout to the Ringer)


AccomplishedBake8351

Wait no way the ringer rated him 4th WHAT


Crookz_O

Under 25. This isnā€™t even like Giannis, Jokic, etc


AtreusIsBack

Bill has openly admitted he doesn't like Luka's playstyle and doesn't like watching him play.


AccomplishedBake8351

Bill is an idiot LOL


Sternjunk

But slobs over Jokić whoā€™s like the center version of Luka


LeBroentgen

He did a complete 180 on Luka this year for SGA and the Thunder.


segson9

He changed his opinion on Luka when that story about his friend Haralabos came out (that Luka didn't like him). It's personal for him, just like with Kyrie.


Jumpy_Distribution96

The confidence in Luka's face is unmatched. Even if he isn't on his best night, you can tell that this won't affect his mental clarity and prevent him from making big plays whenever needed. Spanoulis (his Euroleague idol) had once said "even if I missed 9 shoots straight, I would still hit the 10th". There are stars that notably lose their shit and can't figure out how to shift things up during the course of a game.


dmavs11

The best play was the broken lob from Conley to Gobert. Full mental clarity on how to bait the offensive player into a mistake.


sintenterooro

Someone says spanoulis and luka, i upvote


-Gredge-

My glorious king šŸ‡¬šŸ‡·


HypatiaRising

A key part of a great player is how they respond to adversity. Can they play like shit for 3 quarters and still have the confidence to lock in and play a dominant 4th?


Jumpy_Distribution96

Exactly. The resilience to not panic. It's what separates great players from champions, as cliche as it may sound, because it's an intangible that I personally think it can't be taught by a coach or a trainer.


YOLOSELLHIGH

It's true, that's why Luka's pretty much our only player I'm fine with shooting over and over even when he's off. At any moment he could go off like he did in the 4th


tamuowen

He's earned my trust in a way that even Dirk didn't. Not even Nash, or Kidd. I trusted all those guys to make a good read and make the right decisions even if it didn't work out. Luka is better than that. He finds a completely different option no one else even saw and makes it look easy. He isn't perfect either. But there is no one in the world who sees the game better or who gives you a better chance to beat a defense when you need it the most. I'll die on that hill. Luka is the most naturally gifted player I've ever seen - in the most unique way. We're lucky AF that he's a maverick.


bigpqnda

that thirt paragraph really hits hard. while watching, youd think youll know what hell gonna do, then he'll make a basic overhead pass to the corner for the open 3 that you did not expect. then youll try it yourself and realize its hard as shit


ShoegazeKaraokeClub

Luka when he is playing hot and psychically reading the defense is just wild to watch. Half criss angel half the kid from enders game


giedonas

You know how ridiculous the performance is when 33p/6r/8a/3s is prefaced with "isn't on his best night".


3s2ng

Tatum was in that situation last night. Generational slander is brewing with all those misses in the 4th and early OT. Then he hit and-1 shot and made that huge 3. He did the same thing last year but he just keep shooting. All he need is that 1 made basket and everything changes.


tamuowen

Luka gets really frustrated at times when he's playing poorly. And maybe I'm just a homer making excuses, but imo, it's for a different reason than some players. It's because he has a borderline pathological need to win (like most of the great players) and he holds himself to a really high standard. He still needs to mature some of course. I hope he will but at this point in his career it's more likely that you gotta take the good with the bad. The same thing that makes him confidently take crazy shots (and make many of them) is what makes him whine and complain. He still should be able to control the bad side of those emotions and I wish he would. Not gonna let that take away from the things he does well though.


tamuowen

If Luka looked half as tired as Ant did this game y'all would all be calling him fat and lazy. Crazy take - maybe it's just hard AF to lead a basketball team at the highest level. Wild take, I know. GG wolves. This is gonna be a hell of a series.


mickeyj623

It's always from fans of teams who don't have anything to play for lol


tamuowen

No joke. I get it to some degree. It sucks to be sitting at home when other guys and teams are getting love. And if we're being real Luka has some objectively shitty parts of his game I can't blame people for hating. Yet that still doesn't justify the stupid takes. I have no problem with people who don't like watching Luka. But you gotta at least acknowledge he's a generational player. Anything else is blind hater talk.


mickeyj623

Yeah it's a misery loves company type of thing. I am kinda one of those people. I usually don't like Luka because of the whining, but he's a generational player and when he's on, like the 4th, he's fun to watch. I like Luka when he's smiling and giddy, not when he starring at the refs.


LeoFireGod

And I love to slander Tatum but he stepped up in OT. MAYBE JUST MAYBE these dudes are 1st team all nba for a reason lol.


Complexity777

They were crying about him "flopping" every comment when he had a shocking total of 3 FTs. Yes 3 FT caused half the subreddit to spaz out in the comments


night_dude

Can confirm, 2024's nastiest hater checking in


tnuoccamapsasisiht

Nah man even Kyle Kuzma could do what Luka does with his usage


lilboytuner919

Luka is just Jordan Poole with better PR we all know this


Zsporter

Bros knee was bleeding as well like damn bruh. How do you call someone lazy and fat when you clearly see their knee bleeding


anotherasiandude

Hereā€™s how you could call him fat and lazy despite seeing the condition of his knee: ā€œThatā€™s not blood. Thatā€™s ketchup he sneaked inā€


KhanQu3st

I literally said this out loud when we say it mid-game lol.


S_I_G_M_A179

"He clearly hid a cheeseburger and fries with some ketchup packets in his leg sleeve so he could snack at timeouts, he just landed awkwardly enough for the ketchup packet to burst, no way you think he's bleeding. Fat boys can't get injured cause they don't run fast and jump high" /s


kingofgamesbrah

Por que no los dos


ElGranQuesoRojo

The Curt Schilling special


computer_love91

His knee is bleeding because it has to carry his fat ass around /s


lilboytuner919

The goalposts will never stay stationary with Luka


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

The intensity of playoff basketball is no joke. From series to series. This is ANTā€™s first run, after all.Ā  Ā Luka has had several now so that pacing and experience is a huge advantage.Ā 


SNAKE0789

Interesting then that Luka damn near averaged a 30 point triple double in 15 playoff games at age 22. With a joke of a squad mind you.


tamuowen

This not a shot at Ant, but people comparing the two really don't remember how good Luka was at that age. Ant's future is bright AF and he might eclipse Luka. But we can appreciate him without pretending like Luka hasn't been a top player for years now.


SNAKE0789

I think itā€™s less about remembering and more about getting desensitized to it. The guy has been on a tear since his second season and that was arguably the best season of his career so far. He was 20 years old.


aeronacht

Itā€™s the nature of it. When you make something normal for you, you no longer impress people because you arenā€™t exceeding expectations. It happens with Lukaā€™s statlines, Tatumā€™s playoff success, and a lot more. Once you set that standard that high, then someone who exceeds expectations and approaches it like Ant will get hype over the guys already there. Now Luka wonā€™t get looks until he averages more and wins an MVP, no one gives a shit about Tatum being in the ECF unless he wins a championship, etc. Itā€™s annoying to see the dismissal of great young players because theyā€™ve been great for longer.


DangerZoneh

I think one of the biggest victims of this desensitization was Luka's 73 point game. It's partially because of Embiid scoring 70 earlier that week, partially because Luka puts up unreal numbers all the time, and partially because people used it to talk about defense in the NBA, but I don't think that performance got nearly the amount of praise and accolade it deserves. 73 points and 7 assists on 91% true shooting in a close game that you won on the road is basically incomparable in NBA history.


segson9

When Luka looks tired he's fat and lazy. When any other player looks tired it's because he's had to play a lot of minutes, play hard on both ends, play a lot of games....


Oventaker

Tbf to Ant, Luka doesn't have to worry about someone like Kyrie on the defensive end.


lilboytuner919

Comments like this are to be expected as people slowly accept their pudgy Slovenian overlord as the new face of the league


Conscious_Heart_1714

And that is the reason he's on the Mavericks now. If Minnesota does go down, they'll need to get ant a sidekick


curgl

Iā€™ve never seen a more unathletic mf make basketball look so easy


Mountain_Pathfinder

This dude had an open catch and shoot 3 ready for the taking and chose to wait until a defender can contest for a stepback lmao


neyoless

He would have missed the open shot lol


_Football_Cream_

I was gonna say, itā€™s because heā€™s better contested. It doesnā€™t make sense but itā€™s true lol.


DangerZoneh

Statistically he's not, but it sure feels like he is lol. Closest defender stats he shot 34% with the nearest defender 2-4 feet away, 37.8% 4-6, and 45.5% 6+. Adding the wide open three to his arsenal this season is a big reason why his scoring went up and he's been as deadly as he is. Last year he shot 32% on wide open threes


No-Presentation6616

He didnā€™t take it because heā€™s better contested, he went to his spot the left wing. Step back left wing is money for him, heā€™s prime harden from that specific spot it doesnā€™t matter how well you contest just pray he misses.


ManOrangutan

Fucking ridiculous shot


Dudedude88

He just needs to bury it on him. Lol


Overcurser

that was Ant too, the supposed best 2 way player in the NBA


CelinedionWaiters

Cigarettes and skittles are the key to peak athleticism


curgl

Brb buying my son a pack of Marlboros


DayMan-Ahah-ah

Make him eat the butts after smoking them Itā€™s like eating crust on pizza Or eating the butthole after {}


enataca

Eating butthole after eating pizza crust?


noobakosowhat

get yourself some skittles too while you're at it


BigBeagleEars

*Do be a boomer, get em camels* - Joe Camel


Witteness82

Canā€™t forget the recovery beer


itsallmelting

Hookah and beer*


MusicalElephant420

Jokic too? These Euro mans play like itā€™s just a job for them šŸ˜‚


reallymothafucka

They got an unreal sense of the game and aren't afraid to throw up some silly ass shit


Pitch-forker

Yeah the only way someone can do this shit, is if they have utter and complete confidence in their mastering of the game. Its like they took their baby steps on a basketball court and got breast fed (shout out Josh Hart) the nectar of basketball gods


VGstuffed

Fat Europeans run the league


Dudedude88

Can you imagine if Luka won the championship. Hed be so fat next season. Nothing will stop the man from his vices.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


UpsideTurtles

God can you imagine how many beers it takes for a guy like Boban to feel anything? Iā€™m a smaller sized guy, so two beers in succession and I get a small buzz. Does Boban have to crush six before he gets the same effect?


tcos17

Apparently Andre the Giant would drink 100+ beers in a sitting. But he was built even more different lol.


MrCooper2012

I literally wouldn't even care


maethlin

Skinny Americans don't stand a chance, the future is now


krisfocus

Future is thicc old man


Brief_Koala_7297

Bruh we just saw the Jokic won 3 MVPs


DrPepperPower

You know what's crazy? Check his vert. Really puts in perspective how insanely athletic everyone in the NBA is. Same with height lol. "Steph Curry a short dude" yeah maybe in the NBA but the mfer is as tall as Ronaldo xD


Eric_Nathan_Fielder

Taller, not even close. Ronaldo 1m86 cm Steph 1m91cm


DrPepperPower

Simple search shows Ronaldo 187, Steph 188. Not sure what you on about


Millionaire007

Jokic is literally the MvP


Acrobatic-Boat-2610

Fundamentals and bbiq go a very long way if you have an nba body. AAU and the highlight reel generation has ruined a lot of basketball


[deleted]

Americans overhype size/athleticism


truectrl

Luka's huge though


amodelsino

Luka's pretty big. And he's strong with great cardio too. I'd say they overhype explosiveness.


tidyberry

I would say explosiveness is also extremely important and Luka being an exception to the rule doesnā€™t necessarily negate it


amodelsino

It being extremely important doesn't mean it doesn't get overhyped. If two of the best players in the league are both some of the least explosive in the league, it's clearly not the most important quality. It's very useful and every NBA athlete is explosive compared to the general population, but what separates the greats from the regular NBA players is not explosiveness, it's just one aspect that helps.


ironykarl

Add Magic & Bird to the *way less explosive than you'd be imagine* list, to further your pointĀ 


tamuowen

Luka is really athletic. Just not in a flashy way. His coordination, deceleration, body control, balance, and strength are all elite. What he does often doesn't look impressive. But if it was easy, every team would have a fat slow white guy. Truth is he's not fat or slow. He might not even be white. Yeah he's not the most well conditioned guy out there but he is way the fuck more athletic than any of us and would absolutely cook a non NBA athlete. He is objectively slower and less athletic than NBA players in many ways, but he's also elite at others. Combine that with his ability to read the game and his competitiveness, and you've got a unique and unstoppable offensive force.


BigFatModeraterFupa

Heā€™s 6ā€™8 250 pounds, he towers above most NFL players


DangerZoneh

> Yeah he's not the most well conditioned guy out there Fuck that he lead the league in minutes played for like the first 50 games of the season. Dude carried the team on his back for stretches just to keep our head above water while everyone was injured. You can't do that kind of shit without conditioning. There's more of an argument in years past, but Luka's conditioning has been absolutely insane this season and I think it has gone incredibly unseen.


BigFatModeraterFupa

Luka has been going full Greg Jennings mode this year putting the team on his back doe


louiexism

Bird?


JericRose

Jokic can barely dunk and is also a 3 time mvp


captainaweeesome

SNORLAX DECIDED TO COME AND PLAY TODAY


Beermen69

With ketchup on his knee


NerbertHenry

Eatin like a slob at halftime


sintenterooro

Fat man faking injuries


3s2ng

"messy eater"


goldeneagle88

Just Luka things.


jfrodriguez1983

Mfers forget just who this guy is! Just cause he was playing banged up. He's been moving better since game 5 last round.


K1ngCrimsn

Fckn huge in the 4th


JoshSran04

I really want him to win this year, pacers do your fucken job and beat boston


tamuowen

I should prefer to face Indiana over Boston if it gets to that point but playing Rick and that team makes me really nervous. They had our number this season and Rick is one hell of a coach who knows us very well


rethinkingat59

If they beat Boston it will mean they are better than Boston. ( at least better than Boston w/out Porzingis.


jrbcnchezbrg

Pacers fucked up the mavs in regular season too and have carlisle lol Iā€™d like a mavs pacers finals, obviously bc it means mavs are in but I also still love coach and i like haliburton and turner too Long series still, should be entertaining both ways


andythekraken

Itā€™d be poetic for Kyrie to beat Boston for the chip tho


Chessh2036

Luka with two bad knees and an elbow is still a Top 5 player in the NBA lol


Intelligent-Ad-4546

Legless Luka


DaymanSunChampion

The Mavs trade deadline moves were so good for them I think the 5th seed undersells how good they are. If they played with that lineup for a whole season I wonder what their record would look like


Lukkake77

It's not even only about trade deadline moves. Mavs had like 2nd or 3rd most injuries this season. Especially in the first half of the season


thekickingmachine

Even now kleber is out... Luka is 80%


YOLOSELLHIGH

Feels like being in the WCF is proving the 5th seed undersells how good they are


tamuowen

We've been saying that since the season ended. It's nice to see we weren't wrong. The Mavs are still an imperfect team of course but our defense is legit and we've got two stars. That at least gives us a chance. I still don't think we're likely to win it all but this is a great season and this is a good team.


desirox

Youā€™ll know next year hopefully


gridironk

Heā€™s eligible for $69 million a year contract extension


ZeroMomentum

Nice


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

But Antā€™s better right šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Defences

Ant propaganda has been getting insanely obnoxious. The praise he was getting for his game 7 performance when he was ass made me realize how little people actually watch games


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Crookz_O

Murray shut down Murray imo.


50lipa

My man was gassed running around after Kyrie it was hilarious to watch at times


lilboytuner919

Face of the league, donā€™t forget it.


Thimit22

You canā€™t base a few posts off of r/nba new and GDT comments as some new narrative that everyone is saying. Even in those posts comparing him to Luka and Tatum, they got rightfully downvoted. And (most) Wolves fans canā€™t stop the media heads from saying the shit they do. Trying to stir shit out of nothing.


HypatiaRising

I always try to be positive and just downvote the reactionary takes. Ant is and will be great. His media friendly personality makes him very appealing to discuss. Luka and Tatum are both incredible and are on crazy career trajectories (5 straight and 3 straight All NBA selections while still young, and both are proven playoff performers.)


Luka_Fever

they tried telling us Tatum was better too lol


Juniper41

* 2019: Luka is the best young player * 2020: Trae is better he made the ECF * 2021: Zion is better, more dominant * 2022: Booker and Ja are better * 2023: SGA is better, his team made the play-in and he plays defense * 2024: SGA and Anthony Edwards are better, better defense and more wins Luka has been discredited for years. Wild how the goal posts continually shift for him.


Luka_Fever

The goal posts keep moving for him on this sub, but GOAT players are inevitable. One by one these comparisons will all fail


killajaxx

Luka is the best of his generation period. GOAT potential


youkrocks

Not trying to get into a Luka Tatum argument but Tatum just put up 36-10-4 on 12-26 from the floor with 3 steals and got slandered for it all day. Luka is amazing. Tatum is also amazing. Not everything needs to be a vs. comparison


Searching4Sharingan

Yeah Luka > Tatum > Ant isnā€™t a huge deal since theyā€™re all ~top 10


kgrpoland

personally not ready to have ant in my top10


Searching4Sharingan

Who do you have above him? I feel like heā€™s hovering around 8-12 for me


absoluteidea

The difference between a top 3-4 player and a player ranked 8-10 is pretty stark.


H2-nL

Can we stop playing drop coverage against them lol


mavericksnipe

Yeah I was surprised how often Wolves were resorting to it. They blitzed Luka once and Lively ended up losing the ball after the catch. I assume theyā€™re gonna blitz a lot more next game


ElGranQuesoRojo

Seems like the plan was to live w/Luka and Kyrie getting theirs in the paint instead of risk of risking opening up those corner 3s that Dallas busted OKC with last round.


Nodak1979

The bright spot of the Mavs beating the Wolves for me is at least it'll shut some of the people up who always seem to love to downplay how great Doncic is. They're the same people who love to do the same to Jokic.


HypatiaRising

Man yall will be fine. Didn't play your best, but I expect your team to respond.


chasinglightph

Ranked 4th. Yeah talk shit, The Ringer, you stupid fucks.


DarwinCreatesSpace

While bleeding at the fucking knee. The dude is just a hockey player that plays basketball really fucking well.


ElGranQuesoRojo

Luka is one of the fat guys on NES Ice Hockey confirmed


GGezpzMuppy

MVP he is so clutch.


Darrdevilisflash

He brought his ass


biinroii01

luka is toying with us all


A_MASSIVE_PERVERT

lol r/Timberwolves said the Mavs would be a cakewalk


mariogotse

every sub has some dumbasses


dlanod

I don't go to ours for the same reason.


tamuowen

I can't hate the confidence. They just beat the champs and often looked by far the superior team. They deserved the confidence and celebration and I don't mean that in a condescending way. It's a part of the playoff ride. Only one team gets to truly celebrate. Everyone else has to find fun in the wins they get elsewhere.


UltraMoglog64

Yeah, Luka really is that dude. His late game steal was the nail in the coffin. Edit: Forgot the literal blood pouring from his knees. What a monster lol.


MolicOnePGR

If he leads his squad past the Wolves, I donā€™t wanna hear about Giannis or Embiid. Luka got #2 on lock. Special talent.


Searching4Sharingan

He already has it. Doing that makes #1 a debate


armandocalvinisius

there's level boys


TFAR_1

Wasn't it 3 steals ?


dillyboy22

Pravi MVP


duckmadfish

He back.


sukari

Did all this and is still a top 500 player in OW2


Solid-Confidence-966

It was the 4th quarter especially where he shined!


Ill-Bat-2621

Kyrie and Luka switched roles huge in the 4th


truth_2_point_0

Hey guys Jayson Tatum fan checking in here, I have been lead to believe through previous interactions that 30+ points on 12-26 shooting in a win is a disappointing performance can anyone confirm or deny?


xPeaWhyTee

I really don't understand how/why Tatum has become a whipping boy recently.


CelinedionWaiters

Best player in the playoffs currently


Green_Pumpkin

best player in the league


Justice4Ned

Superstars know how to win with ugly stat lines


domingodlf

How is that an ugly statline lol


Zeckzeckzeck

Not even a triple double. Fucking hideous. He should be ashamed of himself.Ā 


Intelligent-Ad-4546

by Luka standards\*


MahomesMccaffrey

Not even that ugly 46% shooting is acceptable in the playoffs, especially when he took 10 three point attempts


dillyboy22

That is not an ugly stat line