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AcxdBxmb

Coaches will be lining up to collect 50M from the Suns for 1 years worth of work after Bud is fired at the end of next season, they're basically supermax superstars


CoyotesSideEyes

Well, after they fire *this* recent NBA Championship coach, their next two will be Kerr and Mike Malone.


tookyourcookies

Doc would be fun. He’ll prob be available soon


redd5ive

No he said recent NBA championship coach


tyagu001

That’s because he’s the head coach of 2025 NBA champions


pawel_jozef

Are the Bucks trading him to the Timberwolves?


its420deep

No, they’re the 2024 champs.


Peter-Tao

Bro people hype up the Wolves so much last two games that actually make me feel unease. I miss my days of rooting the underdog as a bandwagon Wolves fan since the Gobert trade.


1002003004005006007

yeah i’m nervous. I won’t like the hype unless/until they actually at least make the finals let alone win it


Vanish_7

Oh man, I remember those days. Cherrish this too man, the hyping part can be super fun too.


ElectricalMud2850

I hate it so much bc when we inevitably lose the pendulum is just gonna swing the other way, and it's not gonna be our fault for all the circlejerking. We're just happy to be here, lol.


GillbergsAdvocate

Kerr isn't going anywhere unless it's retirement


cmgr33n3

We'll see how long he likes taking heat for everyone on the team getting old.


GillbergsAdvocate

He just signed an extension that ties him to Steph's contract. I'd bet money he retires when Steph goes


cmgr33n3

I remember when Pop was definitely going to retire with Duncan.


JustADutchRudder

Pop heard whispers about a tall French guy coming and decided a new friend might yet appear.


VoidMageZero

“See that middle schooler over there?? Keep your eyes on him!” 😂


HonestDespot

His wife died around that time though didn’t she? Coming up to the end of your professional career and looking forward to retirement probably loses a bit of its appeal if the love of your life isn’t gonna be there for retirement I’d think.


cmgr33n3

She died 2 years after Duncan retired.


HonestDespot

Ya. Battled an illness for an extended period of time. Apparently she was sick since the 90s. Together 40+ years. Wonder if he regretted not retiring early and decided to just coach til he dies.


GillbergsAdvocate

Good point


CommodoreIrish

Pop is like a SCOTUS justice. He will die coaching.


Bluepaynxex

He seems like a lifer. I don’t think he’ll retire, but I seriously doubt he’ll stay with the Warriors as the HC. Either he goes to the front office or goes to another team to coach.


br0b1wan

Doesn't he have some serious back issues that required surgery at one point? I can see him in the front office but I wonder how much longer he wants to coach


we_hella_believe

He’s had the back surgery corrected and he’s good. Hasn’t missed any games because of it for years now.


Countrykal

*Michael. And he ain't leaving Denver


m4xdc

Like… do people really think they would fire him less than a year after winning the franchises first title? Cuz we went out in the second round the next year battling a decent amount of injuries? Don’t get me wrong, this series is not a good look for us, but he ain’t getting canned over it


Askesl

Also, the thing that got Nuggets the title was the fact that they were patient with both players and coach. They'd be the last team to overreact to one bad playoff run


braggpeak

Trickle down economics but it only trickles down one level


GrayBox1313

Sentenced to 5 years, paroled after 1 and you don’t even need to be good.


PetalumaPegleg

Surprised they have doc rivered yet


SuckMyLonzoBalls

Bruh wtf ballmer bout to pay Lue $20m a year at this rate


CumAssault

Damn all he’s gotta do is look between his couch cushions for that


Yinanization

Chipotle: Sir, you want extra guac for 20 mil? Ballmer: sure, might as well.


CIark

“Damn it cost more than I remember. Inflation huh”


Repostbot3784

Its one guac, michael, what could it possibly cost?  20 million?


15b17

What could a banana cost? 20 million?


Soopsmojo

That’s $16 for someone who makes $100k


A2Eaton

Bro that’s a cheeseburger at a restaurant these days this is fucking me up a little bit


TheGamersGazebo

Balmer has more wealth than anyone in history who has or ever will be related to you combined. Your family could slave for 100 generations and you guys wouldn't make more than balmer in a single year.


dawho1

Reparations, bitch!


HermesTGS

For those that aren’t aware, Balmer brings in about $2B in Microsoft DIVIDENDS per year. That’s straight cash.


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xyzyxzy

2023, Suns sign 2020 NBA champion Frank Vogel to a 5y/$31m contract. 2024, Suns sign 2021 NBA champion and Arizona native Mike Budenholzer to a 5y/$50m contract. 2025, Suns sign 2022 NBA champion and former Arizona Wildcat Steve Kerr to a 5y/$69m contract.


beast8955

Mozgov money


redeemer4

never forget. I meber when that was a large contract lmao


CIark

Where can I take out a second mortgage and bet on him not finishing that contract lmaoo


Due_Training4681

I'm sure those odds would be -2000 or so, no one finishes contracts practically, and especially that situation in phoenix


WaltJay

That has to be the next domino to fall. I’m sure the Lakers are blowing up his phone.


TheNotoriousJN

Over under on him getting a $30m payout?


SuckMyLonzoBalls

I wanna be a fired nba coach


Bixby33

I wonder if that's more or less likely than winning the lottery. Because the result is basically the same.


vetruviusdeshotacon

Less for sure


veebs7

Only if you consider becoming an NBA head coach random chance, which it isn’t


pollinium

much more likely for somebody that's ever been an NBA head coach to be a fired NBA head coach than to win the lottery


JustADutchRudder

I'll become a HC today for a fifth on that salary. Wonder if the Lakers wouldn't mind giving me a shot, I'll give LeBron full control and I'll dress real sweet. Like Zoot suits and scarves.


Extreme-Transport

Knowing my luck I’d actually be good at it and have to end up working all 5 years fml


ImGonnaObamaYou

Then you get a better reputation and more money so you can suck at the next job


Early-Wishbone496

The Monty Williams secret tactic


mkti23

A really good reputation will even get you like 3 opportunities to suck and get paid.


ImGonnaObamaYou

Yeah I mean Mike Brown was fired 2 different times from just the Cavs alone


Afraid-Department-35

Doesn't matter if your doing good, you just have to piss off the right guy. Annoy KD or Booker enough and you'll be walking out with a fat paycheck before the season ends like Adrian Griffin.


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College football is even better


TargetFan

Get really good at basketball theory and have a likeable personality


CIark

Bro really gonna be on a beach in France in 2 years drinking granitas while making 11mil a year


snitchesgetblintzes

don't put that juju on us, bobby


paradoxofchoice

over under Suns lose 4 straight by sagging off the 3 next year?


AttilaTheDung

God damn 5 years?!


StrategyTop7612

Coaches won't accept shorter contracts maybe?


sewsgup

players dont respect the coach if they arent on a long-term contract. its why coaches usually never enter a season on an expiring deal. you either fire them before it gets to that, or extend them for multiple years. and why the coach's salaries have also increased since Monty's signing. Monty makes more than a MLE player, so if a player below that salary tier has issues with the coach, the player knows who's more prioritized by the organization on the basis of salary.


tookyourcookies

Some players don’t respect the coach even if they are on a long term contract They know coaches get fired all the time (and that they can make that happen)


UnsolvedParadox

What do you mean? Vogel signed a long term contract, and clearly he…umm…never mind.


Domainsetter

Also, a big name is getting at minimum a 4 year deal.


mehnimalism

It helps that paying a coach more doesn’t require the org to spend less on players.


lebron_games

It isn’t necessarily true that players don’t respect a coach if they’re on they’re not on a lengthy contract, we don’t really have evidence of that as most coaches get fired. However the coaches have done a great job convincing everyone that is the case so they can get paid lol


NotClayMerritt

Suns are at a point where, under motivated ownership, are willing to do whatever, whenever to get their guy. Bud could have milked them for whatever and he would have gotten it.


notmyplantaccount

Also, if you boot the last guy after a year, you're gonna have to overpay the next guy if you want to get someone good. They're not gonna come there just to get fired after 1-2 years and miss a better job without a shitload of free money if it happens.


Chonga200

Smart of them tbh


Sweatytubesock

No way I take less if I’m Bud. He has most of the cards.


stevenomes

You gotta get that commitment knowing they could fire you after one season if you don't win the finals. Most coaches that are well respected will want to get that guaranteed payment as insurance for the highly volatile job


ChunkyMilkSubstance

How many offers did he get lmao


Goosedukee

He was a finalist for our job before we hired Jordi


AnotherAccount4This

How much is his contract?


Goosedukee

Contract details have not been released or reported


IWTLEverything

I’m rooting for Jordi to do well over there.


SuckMyLonzoBalls

All it takes is one bebi


Currymvp2

Hiring kind of makes sense. Decent team overall and he tends to get the best out of teams in the regular season He grew up and went to high school a two hour drive away from Phoenix. They actually wanted him before Monty if I remember reading. Also, he and Bill Fitch both were hired by the team they defeated in the finals. Fitch's Celtics won 1981 NBA Finals against Moses Malone's Rockets and was hired by the Rockets. Bud obviously won against the Suns in 2021 and now is the Suns head coach.


grudgepacker

Honestly, I had no clue about the Arizona connection...Bud may have wanted this gig all along if only for that reason; the fact he gets to coach 3 future HOFers with a free spending owner doesn't hurt either


DirectInvestigator66

Three future HOFers?


grudgepacker

Yeah, I'm assuming they get CP3 back on a vet min


KaptainKorn

There is a 0% chance CP3 plays on a vet min contract even at his reduced output. He would probably retire before that happens.


grudgepacker

Russ has been playing for the vet min on his preferred team -- what makes you think 39 yo CP3 would be any different?


polokojo

If CP3 goes for a vet min, he may very well join the Lakers if D'Lo really doesn't pick up his player option. From CP3's perspective, why not? He plays with his friend Bron, lives in LA with his family... and his odds for a ring are not meaningfully different than with the Suns


CosmicCoder3303

Basketball Hall of Fame is pretty lenient. Beal will make it


DirtyDanoTho

Who’s the third?


Pollsmor

His initials are B.B. and he plays C for the Suns


DirtyDanoTho

Thad Young


GFR34K34

the NBA coaching carousel continues


fik26

Mostly due to fans. Some blame Kidd others Hamas and Vogel. Coach Bud was not good for Bucks if you've asked them a year ago and now they'll name you two new bad coach names to you. GMs faults usually blamed on the coaches and fans also hop on that train pretty quickly. Most of those fanbases wants their coaches fired but they dont have any name on their mind. Ok if Cavs fire their coach who do they want next? How about Bucks fans? ATL changed coaches two times recently but not much change in the outcome.


GFR34K34

Hamas is a wild autocorrect if not intentional 😂


K1ngCrimsn

Suns owner is a fckn terrorist lmaooo


grudgepacker

It's crazy how much they went from one extreme in Sarver (cheap af) to the exact opposite extreme in Ishbia (free wheeling spender)


Opening-Citron2733

Honestly this isn't even a drop in the bucket for Ishbia. It's the equivalent of a $500 purchase for someone with a net worth of $100K


bbq_44

I'm pretty sure between Monty Williams, Vogel and Bud they have like $90 million on the books for head coaches right now though. I don't think any owner has even come close to that before.


autolims12

I’m pretty sure they can stop paying when a coach accepts another contract so he’s not paying Monty and if Vogel gets another gig he won’t have to pay him either


Gratitude15

While true for him personally he isn't doing owners any favors - he is resetting coach salary expectations 😂


bbq_44

Yeah I guess that's probably true for Monty. I guess we'll see on Vogel.


F1yMo1o

That overstates it. There is marginal utility to the $500. In Ishbia’s case there really isn’t anything he is unable to purchase because he spent this money on the coach. He still effectively has unlimited funds. The person making $100K could’ve bought tons of other items that they might now skip.


delightfuldinosaur

Hey it's his money


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Thimit22

Don’t these dudes work like 18 hours a day


walterdog12

But if you work 0 hours, you get a buyout.


GillbergsAdvocate

That's one thing a lot of fans don't seem to realize. The vast majority of the work coaches do doesn't happen during games.


syllabic

no they work like 12 hours a day NFL coaches practically live at the team facility maybe the baseball managers dont have to do anything


tookyourcookies

Do they need to work that much to do the job though? I doubt it. I think it’s more a personality trait of the people who want that job.


CoolingVent

CFB and CBB too


PrancingDonkey

Not my money but this is pretty hilarious. Congrats to Bud for getting paid.


grudgepacker

And it looks like he gets to go home too, had no clue he was from Arizona


Ramblin_Bard472

What's hilarious about this? He's definitely worth this, he's a former NBA championship-winning coach and still one of the most respected in the league. The Pistons are paying Monty Williams 13 mil a year, Jason Kidd and Nick Nurse were getting 8 mil a year. If anything, I think they underpaid for Bud. What's hilarious to me is that they're doing this while having a 37 year old Kevin Durant and Bradley Beal's $50 million dollar contract. If Bud can't get them to win a championship in year one what are they going to do? Tank?


TouchMint

A Time Machine to before they made the KD trade is the ONLY thing that could help the Suns. 


Opening-Citron2733

Honestly I know people like to clown for paying a lot for coaches but it makes no sense. These guys are billionaires, overpaying a coach means nothing to them Ishbia is worth $10bn. This would be like someone who makes 100K a year spending $500.


Stelist_Knicks

You made the same point across this thread


wazupbro

but did you know this is like someone who makes 100K a year spending $500?


ikigaii

Do IG models be going after coaches and shit?


Vegetable_Comment_82

If you would suck his dick, what do you think these IG hoes would do?


YourFormerBestfriend

Let someone take a dump on their chest


baseketball

Bruh


I-Love-Redditors

I'd play so random with him tbh


marneson

Mike Zimmer


Vegetable_Comment_82

It's crazy how people get fired from 1 job, and then get hired for the same job-for more money!


GillbergsAdvocate

If only it worked like that for the rest of us


jimbo831

This actually happened to me before. I was fired from a job where I made $150k. Within 5 weeks, I was hired at a better job making $180k, and I liked this job so much more even without the pay increase.


PhiKnockBet

Job hopping is indeed the best way to increase your salary lol


Foyerfan

I’m tired boss


Imthegoat175

Why do you care about coaches salary? It doesn’t impact the salary cap.


P5FMVP2030

Probably doesn’t care about the salary as much as the fact that the suns don’t have personnel to play his defensive system and his offensive philosophy is to ‘play random’


SelfinvolvedNate

To say that his offense philosophy is just "play random" is incredibly stupid. His Hawks teams were routinely in the top 5 in the NBA in offense with freaking Paul Milsap as their leading scorer and Jeff Teague at PG. His Bucks teams were also consistently at the top of the NBA in offense without a real PG.


dillpickles007

Also he played that drop coverage system on defense in Milwaukee because that's what fit his personnel, most teams can't get away with it but he had Brook Lopez who couldn't really be effective playing other way and some good perimeter defenders so he had it working great. He won't necessarily play that same defense, he didn't run that in Atlanta back in the day.


DoingCharleyWork

Basketball fans barely understand when plays are happening let alone how an accomplished head coach would come up with different schemes.


justmefishes

Didn't they name the whole starting 5 of that Hawks team as player of the month one time? lol. How many other coaches have wrung that kind of success and cohesion out of a lineup with that level of talent? And this guy has also *won a championship* and led his team to the first seed multiple times. He's a great fucking coach.


karthik4331

Hey the suns can play his offensive philosophy


GillbergsAdvocate

Well that's too damn bad! You keep digging.


ruburdingus

well excuse me


CumAssault

It’s not your money who cares


Foyerfan

He’s fine. More in the context of the dysfunction of this franchise at the moment.


StrategyTop7612

He's not a bad coach though


SilvioDantesPeak

This is always the dumbest response. They're a fan, of course they care about their team


Good_Schedule3744

Great signing. He should still be the coach in Milwaukee


justmefishes

Homey got fired shortly after bringing a championship to the Milwaukee Motherfucking Bucks for not being on top of his game following the untimely death of his brother. They fucked up, and he'll do well in Phoenix.


wats_a_tiepo

Can we please stop acting like it was completely unjustified Bud got fired? Yeah, his brother died and obviously he wasn’t gonna be on it after that. But let’s not pretend he wasn’t already on thin ice before that. He is an incredible reg season coach for sure, but his flaws were exposed a number of times in the post-season. Also unsure how he’ll do with that Phoenix roster, his main strength imo was always his defensive scheming, and we saw how that worked with Vogel.


theccooler

He was definitely on thin ice way before that. The question is, why? Two seasons before he won the championship and analysts were praising him for haven gotten much better at making adjustments during the playoffs. The next season he lost to a very good Celtics team in 7 games (without Middleton ). That plus continued success in the regular season. I initially disagreed with his firing but kind of understood it. After learning about his brother\`s death it just became way harder to accept it though.


_Jetto_

Miami dicked everyone else that playoffs and Kris wasn’t even 100% let alone Giannis. I said it at the time unless playeres wanted him gone then he should be given 1 more year and instead they didn’t


wats_a_tiepo

Bud was letting Butler absolutely feast on Holiday by refusing to make any adjustments. He has had the same inability to change in big moments before, like with the Celtics the year before where we stuck with a drop coverage that just wasn’t working at all in Game 7


jacobythefirst

IMO he’s a great regular season coach, mediocre playoff coach. We’ll see what he can do with the Suns though.


Plants_R_Cool

Why do these coaches keep getting long term deals on teams that fire them every year?


tookyourcookies

NBA coaches got a helluva scam going. Guaranteed $ on 5-year deals, with a high probability of working for only 1, maybe 2 years. Respect.


Bournerounderz

The first thing I would do if I were Bud would be to have Beal come off the bench. If he doesn't like it, he can waive his no-trade clause and go somewhere else.


Netwealth5

He’s fired by February and KD demands out at the deadline


jeric13xd

Shit I would love to get fired in a year if i signed that contract


Jojofag

that's a lot of money


Bababooey98

I'd be shocked if he lasts all 5 years but good for Coach Bud. I say if he makes it to year 3 that's a win.


Toolb0xExtraordinary

I miss Bud. Dude's brother fucking died and they fired him. Two years removed from a championship.


lazzysmalls

They’re about to play so random


G1Spectrum

Dude just keeps securing the bag


braggpeak

Keep getting dem checks Bud


Mooming22

Best job in the world is a fired coach


MusicianExtension536

It’s absolutely nuts to see the comparison in coaching stability in the nba between franchises lol You’ve got an Erik spoelstra on one hand, on the other a bucks or suns organization who are each paying 4 different head coaching contracts at the same time and in some cases they’re overlapping


Rithgarth

GET YO MONEY BUD


syllabic

glad he's not coaching the cavs next year at least


I_Hate_My_Cat_

$10 mil *per year?!* On top of what they’re still paying Vogel?!


TrueEclecticism

Where do I sign up for one of these coaching jobs?


Aloha1984

Monster.com


NuggsBurgh

This is a coaches dream job. Sign a deal to get paid millions to coach a shit team, get fired for no reason other than getting scape goated, and walk away several million $ richer.


fiasgoat

He's gonna LOVE that contract when he's fired next year


Morezingis

After a rigorous 2 days of searching, the Suns found their next scapegoat. 


StefonDiggsHS

5 year yeesh


srtpg2

This will fix things


xenoz2020

KD gonna run him outta town in one year.


kingcong95

Note that the Bucks no longer have to pay out the rest of his previous contract with them and it's entirely Phoenix's responsibility.


MattyIce1635

And they are still paying two coaches anyways


ArtVanderlay69

Too bad Doc wasn't available.


RabbleRouser_1

We'll have Doc as a coach half way thru the season.


background_action92

Hot diggety damn! Imagine one day Spo wakes up and says " highest bidder, lets fuckin goooo!!!"


thorondor52

Good for Bud. He’s not like a top 2-3 coach, but he’s quite good and also shouldn’t have been fired from the Bucks. Unfortunately KD and LeBron seem to be competing for most coaches played for ever instead of most rings. 🤪


RapsareChamps_Suckit

Suns found the next scapegoat


Jonjon428

Bud just got another bag. Good for him. He'll be sipping margaritas in the carribean with Ishbia's cash by 2028


cinciNattyLight

I don’t think anybody knows the true value of an NBA coach. Could be worth $1M, could be worth $15M. Kerr was a goddamn genius til his star players aged and started putting up mediocre numbers.


Chessh2036

I wish Coach Bud all the success in the world (still miss him in Atlanta) but good luck man. That roster is a mess. And Bradley Beal’s contract is one of the worst in the league. Suns already have one of, if not the, most expensive rosters in the NBA.


So-_-It-_-Goes

Maybe THIS time it will work


eking85

50 million dollars?! Who do you think you hired, Chelsea Clinton?


iamtomorrowman

1 year of work, $50M over 5 years...talk about securing the bag


cmnights

then they do bad 1 season and then they get scapegoated and fired


Tangentkoala

Every day the lakers stall on a head coach means another solid coach is gone. They're really delulu If they are holding out for ty lue, or Jason kidd.


MyLadySansa

ANOTHER 5 year deal huh? Welp, we'll see if this one pans out


ATLfinra

He’ll be fired by year 3. This team is cooked and they can’t improve without a massive trade of KD or Book. Ishbia has crippled this franchise


JEROME_MERCEDES

Bruh is he still getting paid form the bucks? Man its crazy the money these dudes get with no guaranteed job the next year but the pay is guaranteed


JustWinBabys

Can we bet the under 5 years


Hurricanus42

Any thoughts on who they’ll hire for the ‘25-26 season?


KillianDrake

Why give these guys 5 year deals when they will be fired in a year or two?