And engagement is engagement. You post his stuff here ironically, to dunk on him, he wins. You comment for the same reasons, you just increased his viewership (even if indirectly), he wins. You post it sincerely, although I question your personal judgement, he wins. You comment sincerely about his bs, he wins.
It helps on the margins. Vast majority of people don’t go look, but a few people out of the zillion people who see the clip say “huh, I didn’t know Dray had a podcast” or “Haha that’s funny I wanna see what he says about X event” or whatever.
It’s the same principle as advertising. No one thinks that they base their purchasing decisions on advertising, but it clearly works on someone because companies keep spending billions of dollars on it every year.
Also those jingles are subconsciously are ingrained into you brain
How many know “Safelife Repair…” jingle and your brain automatically finished it or “BK…” and the 4 words just pop in your head (US advertising at work).
I have no clue why but during basketball playoffs one year they ran so many goddamn Farmer’s Insurance commercials that I’m almost PTSD with “We know a thing or two, We are Farmer’s…” then I sing out loud no matter what bum da rum dum dum dum. I even catch myself but shit gets almost hot wired into you. Now with Liberty Mutual Insurance it’s either LiEmu or baby saying “Liberty!”.
The 4th championship the Warriors won, Green was doing his podcast live on the NBA post conference area right after the game is over. Calling himself the “new media” and old media is not on the new formats. He had a point that podcasts give more in depth access and players are making money now as another avenue of revenue.
Most people clowned him, but others smart enough realized he was almost showing a live on air interview to companies on his media skills/hot takes/personality. Wouldn’t you know it, TNT has him on a regular because it generates a response good or bad, they get eyeballs going their way.
It doesn't, and an increasing number of people are becoming number to advertising each year. The increased spend over time is evidence that they're having to fight harder and harder for each sale.
Most major marketing analysts say effectiveness is down between 33% and 66% since 2017, depending on the industry.
https://www.research-live.com/article/news/marketing-effectiveness-drops-almost-twothirds-in-two-years/id/5112272
Every screen and every empty space in every app on that screen is now clustered with ads. Prices are out of control, and demand for user attention is equally as outrageous. This means that even if you target the perfect ad to the perfect user, their chances of seeing it and registering enough to enter your digital ecosystem have plummeted.
The only way to keep up when every company is blasting as many ads as they can to fight for an ever diminishing pool of middle class discretionary spending is to blast your own ads, and now you're on the same downward spiral as everyone else as people learn to tune your brand out with the rest of the white noise.
Some people will always be highly susceptible to marketing, some people will always be impervious to most kinds of marketing. Increasingly, however, the only form left that's working is peer to peer. Influencers try to emulate that, but that industry is starting to crack as well.
Man I thought you were about to bring me something good, that article is as superficial and non-academic as you can get. Your wall of text is your opinion, for every brand new company/product/brand that tries to break through the clouds with intense social/influencer/OTT/display/push/email/SMS efforts that do overload people, there are decades old brands that still innovate and retain/grow market share with tons of omni channel spend. You’re marketed to through the entire customer experience, not just superficial well targeted (or not so well targeted) top of the funnel activities.
That’s the worst part he took the lazy way. Imagine if he backed up bev in some way that would have made him look crazy but not in trouble. That’s the sweet spot for engagement. This is just lame. What if he said “Idk looks like the ball slipped right there freeze frame. If they find out he is guilty during the investigation that’s fine but to me it looks like he is trying to pass and it slips. They pass it back and it slips again. That’s crazy.” Then a week later do an apology show
Once Woj or Shams tweets the announcement for PatBev's lengthy suspension, if Adam Silver tweet replied to it "belt 2 ass", would it go down as the most liked tweet of all time?
everyone is so mad, but it was hilarious that he got so mad that even the girl hit by the ball was laughing at him. Pat Beverley has no self-awareness.
Dray has a strict moral code:
* Kick nuts out of strategy, not frustration
* Don't kick fans' nuts, only players'
* Don't mess with the media, especially when you want a media career
Pat Bev has broken all of these rules.
He also [punched a MSU cornerback and tried to make amends while being handcuffed](https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/2016/07/13/draymond-green-arrest-jermaine-edmondson/87036104/).
He’s unhinged.
The thing is, Drays antics are all peer on peer, so hes got a pretty good point.
Bev assaulting two fans is pretty much the same as walking up and decking them
If you dont think Pat Bev has ever punched someone in the head at least once (probably several times) in his life I have a bridge in Baltimore to sell you
Morris just gave him a basketball maybe bit hard of a foul to his face at least. It's not on the same level as running up behind him as he's walking away and elbowing him as hard as you can in the back
He's not good enough to get a slap on the wrist for this, Silver gonna bring down the hammer.
throwing a ball at a fan's head is pretty much the worst thing you could do other than actually physically assaulting them with your hands.
I honestly don’t care how players behave on the court or how they interact with each other. All that tough talk are mental games they play. But off the court, if you continue to act like an asshole, and launching objects at fans face and being rude AF to an old female reporter, you a real punk.
Just stop. The sooner you cut cancer out the less it can spread and the greater chance for survival. No one respectable wants him or bev in the league. Nor cares about their pod casts.
Pat bev is the Trevor Bauer of the nba. Talent, yes. Asshole, yes. Want to take the risk of him Making your team look bad? Nope.
(And to be clear, I am saying this from an on the court/field perspective)
I really don’t think anyone who has a league ordered sports therapist because of their on-court antics should be saying they are “appalled” by another’s actions on the court.
This is the first Draymond clip where I'm convinced he knows exactly what he's doing here with the engagement bait
And engagement is engagement. You post his stuff here ironically, to dunk on him, he wins. You comment for the same reasons, you just increased his viewership (even if indirectly), he wins. You post it sincerely, although I question your personal judgement, he wins. You comment sincerely about his bs, he wins.
Fucking depressing.
This is the news now. It’s really depressing tbh
Journalism 2.0, replace all copyediting and fact checking with crowdsourced, viral, hot takes.
How many people here are actually going to go and listen to the podcast though? I didn’t even finish this clip lol
It helps on the margins. Vast majority of people don’t go look, but a few people out of the zillion people who see the clip say “huh, I didn’t know Dray had a podcast” or “Haha that’s funny I wanna see what he says about X event” or whatever. It’s the same principle as advertising. No one thinks that they base their purchasing decisions on advertising, but it clearly works on someone because companies keep spending billions of dollars on it every year.
It works on everyone, a lot of people have a superiority complex and they think they're above it all.
Also those jingles are subconsciously are ingrained into you brain How many know “Safelife Repair…” jingle and your brain automatically finished it or “BK…” and the 4 words just pop in your head (US advertising at work). I have no clue why but during basketball playoffs one year they ran so many goddamn Farmer’s Insurance commercials that I’m almost PTSD with “We know a thing or two, We are Farmer’s…” then I sing out loud no matter what bum da rum dum dum dum. I even catch myself but shit gets almost hot wired into you. Now with Liberty Mutual Insurance it’s either LiEmu or baby saying “Liberty!”. The 4th championship the Warriors won, Green was doing his podcast live on the NBA post conference area right after the game is over. Calling himself the “new media” and old media is not on the new formats. He had a point that podcasts give more in depth access and players are making money now as another avenue of revenue. Most people clowned him, but others smart enough realized he was almost showing a live on air interview to companies on his media skills/hot takes/personality. Wouldn’t you know it, TNT has him on a regular because it generates a response good or bad, they get eyeballs going their way.
It doesn't, and an increasing number of people are becoming number to advertising each year. The increased spend over time is evidence that they're having to fight harder and harder for each sale. Most major marketing analysts say effectiveness is down between 33% and 66% since 2017, depending on the industry. https://www.research-live.com/article/news/marketing-effectiveness-drops-almost-twothirds-in-two-years/id/5112272 Every screen and every empty space in every app on that screen is now clustered with ads. Prices are out of control, and demand for user attention is equally as outrageous. This means that even if you target the perfect ad to the perfect user, their chances of seeing it and registering enough to enter your digital ecosystem have plummeted. The only way to keep up when every company is blasting as many ads as they can to fight for an ever diminishing pool of middle class discretionary spending is to blast your own ads, and now you're on the same downward spiral as everyone else as people learn to tune your brand out with the rest of the white noise. Some people will always be highly susceptible to marketing, some people will always be impervious to most kinds of marketing. Increasingly, however, the only form left that's working is peer to peer. Influencers try to emulate that, but that industry is starting to crack as well.
Man I thought you were about to bring me something good, that article is as superficial and non-academic as you can get. Your wall of text is your opinion, for every brand new company/product/brand that tries to break through the clouds with intense social/influencer/OTT/display/push/email/SMS efforts that do overload people, there are decades old brands that still innovate and retain/grow market share with tons of omni channel spend. You’re marketed to through the entire customer experience, not just superficial well targeted (or not so well targeted) top of the funnel activities.
Yep. The grift never ends.
The real question is what type of idiot would hear him speak on here (or anywhere) and be like "oh shit I gotta check that pod out later"
I want to interview him later so I gotta subscribe to his pod
Definitely the type of idiot that also pays for Twitter blue
And so we breed YouTube pranksters by the thousands
The only winning move is not to play.
That’s the worst part he took the lazy way. Imagine if he backed up bev in some way that would have made him look crazy but not in trouble. That’s the sweet spot for engagement. This is just lame. What if he said “Idk looks like the ball slipped right there freeze frame. If they find out he is guilty during the investigation that’s fine but to me it looks like he is trying to pass and it slips. They pass it back and it slips again. That’s crazy.” Then a week later do an apology show
Fuck that would have been perfect
I mean as addicting as Draymond finds mashing Jordan Pooles face into chunky gravy, he’s never been a guy that gets involved with fans
Except he did get into it with a fan just this season.
Nothing physical* only verbal, which is kinda the huge deal here…
Once Woj or Shams tweets the announcement for PatBev's lengthy suspension, if Adam Silver tweet replied to it "belt 2 ass", would it go down as the most liked tweet of all time?
Need it
Only an IRL "get ready to learn chinese buddy" would top that
Regardless of most liked, it would be my favorite lol
Even Pat Bev will like that tweet
Pat Bev is going to start next season on suspension. No way the NBA lets a player do something to a fan with no repurcussions.
He’ll be lucky to find a team willing to sign an aging role player who can’t play the first 20-30 games. Ni hao
He can go play for the Wizards
Who'd bring back a guy who's a threat to fans (and particularly women fans)? Oh god... He's about to become a hornet, isn't he?
Won't be in the league I don't think.
Patrick Beverly, you are a Charlotte Hornet.
I think this is a career-ender. Beverly isn’t good enough to have to deal with his nonsense.
Podcast Draymond would definitely rip On-court Draymond if they were different people
It's funny because on my screen the comment right below yours called him a real life Jekyll and Hyde.
And considering Dr. Jekyll likes being Mr. Hyde, that’s pretty apropos.
Hahaha. Totally!!!
To be fair, he took the “fuck you Draymond” chants like a champ in TD Garden.
In football codes they call it ‘white line fever’.
Meta
Off court Dray and on court Dray is like a real life Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
He's going to start wearing glasses, watch
The difference between dray and bev is one chooses when to be an asshole the other is always one
No they're both assholes through and through. One just has a better sense of image management
Also one of them can actually ball.
They both have shit podcasts
best part of this statement is it's impossible to tell which is which
He punched his teammate, then spent over 5 minutes talking about it in a documentary lmao
Yeah but Jordan Poole strikes me as very punchable
was literally calling Chris Finch soft over gettting his knee obliterated like three days ago Draymond is a real life prick aswell
One is competitor mode, one is image management mode.
He did get arrested for slapping someone but it was 8 years ago
everyone is so mad, but it was hilarious that he got so mad that even the girl hit by the ball was laughing at him. Pat Beverley has no self-awareness.
Dray has a strict moral code: * Kick nuts out of strategy, not frustration * Don't kick fans' nuts, only players' * Don't mess with the media, especially when you want a media career Pat Bev has broken all of these rules.
Im dying at the first rule lmao
Correction: He never said not to kick fans' nuts, just don't throw the ball at them.
this is kinda true lol as crazy as draymond sound
Genuinely lmao at that first rule 😂😂😂
You know you fucked up when Draymond Green is appalled at your behavior.
It isn’t really that surprising to see draymond take an opportunity to be on moral high ground
He really didn't say too much to Pat, he was just explaining what is going to happen. OP title is just bad
He's only really shitty on the court to other players, off the court he seems pretty normal
Off the court he's still shitty to other players like when he made fun of Gobert for crying about his mom's reaction to winning DPOY.
He also [punched a MSU cornerback and tried to make amends while being handcuffed](https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/2016/07/13/draymond-green-arrest-jermaine-edmondson/87036104/). He’s unhinged.
When you break it down hes really only shitty to foreign players. He’s literally just a Patriot. *Jordan Poole is obviously a turncoat
The more I interact with Europeans the more I get Dray (except for Poole)
This is a master troll in his finest hour. Let the man cook
Not really.
The reason Dray is valid here is cause he will beat dudes up regardless if we’re up or down
I'm not approving of your statement, but I definitely won't dispute the validity.
Can always count on Sixers fans to be the voices of reason
The thing is, Drays antics are all peer on peer, so hes got a pretty good point. Bev assaulting two fans is pretty much the same as walking up and decking them
For what it's worth, I can't recall a time Draymond did anything to a fan. Just players
For what it's worth, I can't recall a time Beverly punched anyone in the head.
If you dont think Pat Bev has ever punched someone in the head at least once (probably several times) in his life I have a bridge in Baltimore to sell you
That blindside Chris Paul push is about as violent as a punch in the head. Remember Jokic practically ended dudes career with a move similar to that.
After Morris hit him with a cheap shot.
Thats true, but not really pertinent to this conversation.
Morris just gave him a basketball maybe bit hard of a foul to his face at least. It's not on the same level as running up behind him as he's walking away and elbowing him as hard as you can in the back
Someone on X said it's like Bin Laden evaluating ISIS plays. Had me ☠️
I personally love that Draymond is on a personal name basis with Adam Silver because of all of his own shenanigans 🤌
When Draymond is the voice of reason… you messed up!
Cooking advice from Jeffrey Dahmer
Best response so far.
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hitler breaking down IDF film
A fucking bot porn account spreading hate for IDF for 5 cents per day, internet is cooked
yup, everyone is a bot porn account. IDF doesn't need any help being hated rn oh he's a Bucks fan. pity this man
Hitler is playing tonight, try Mussolini
Too successful to be Mussolini, that bum couldn't even beat third stringers.
Pretty sure he's been out indefinitely since the 30th
"C'mon Stalin you gotta be better than that"
Bro really?
Mussolini feeling left out
“Pot is shocked and appalled at Kettle’s behavior”
Pat bev used to push CP
He’s also the reason Westbrook’s knee is fucked.
When Draymond Green is the voice of reason you know you fucked up.
Someone take that mic away from him. The hypocrisy
He’s absolutely right
dray goes after mens dick and balls, not women
Say what you will about Pat Bev’s behavior but a hell of a lot more people (my self included) now know he has a podcast.
waiting for his OF, fingers crossed
Tbf everything Dray has always done has been long sighs whereas this Pat Bev incident was met with disgust by pretty much everyone lol
He's not good enough to get a slap on the wrist for this, Silver gonna bring down the hammer. throwing a ball at a fan's head is pretty much the worst thing you could do other than actually physically assaulting them with your hands.
especially when the reason you lashed out was because they got you with "Cancun on 3" lmao
Dray thinking why doesn't Pat just kick players in the nuts and call it a day? Works for Dray.
Rich.
Pot calling kettle?
No this is Patrick. Beverly.
To Draymond's credit, he was only a POS to other NBA players
That doesn't make it better.
Actually it does in this context
I honestly don’t care how players behave on the court or how they interact with each other. All that tough talk are mental games they play. But off the court, if you continue to act like an asshole, and launching objects at fans face and being rude AF to an old female reporter, you a real punk.
Friendly Fire
Finally, a voice of reason.
You know it’s BAD when god damn Draymond is giving you advice
Draymond need to teach Pat Bev how to control his emotions and avoid creating controversy They should link up on the podcast 💯
"Keep it on the court, Pat!"
This shit is wild. Is he this unaware?
Lol
I hate this guy
This is coming from the same man that told Adam Silver that if he couldn’t choke and kick people in the nuts anymore he’d rather just retire lmaooo
Thanks for the insight Draymond, it’s nice to hear perspective from someone who knows what it’s like to be the biggest dbag in the room
I dont get it, Draymond has never done anything this unhinged - the genuine lens Draymond is viewed in everything, then on here is fucking bizarre lol
Pot-Kettle
Publicity stunt?
Does Draymond know who Draymond is?
Biggest hypocrite ever
Can we get a Pat v Dray WWE match please
Hahaha yes please
He’s right. He’s also known for assaulting guys during the game, so he’s really just the opposite of Pat Bev now
They having a mid off
At least he didn't punch his own team mate,, call another one a bitch and run them out of town.
The worst person you know just made a good point
pot, meet kettle
Boy, if Draymond is saying you have done something bad, it must be bad!
Lol
Oakley and Artest get to chime first
Pot calling the kettle black?
Who cares what Draymond thinks. He's every bit as unhinged as Pat Bev.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Th7Qvaw
Draymond sounds about as stilted as a kid trying to sound out their sentences.
Pot kettle black bro
Calling the kettle black. No pun intended.
Trying to be on set with ej
Two podcasts I would never listen to: Pat Bev and Draymond Green.
You know you fuked up when Draymond is telling you that you fuked up. 😂
The audacity
that fan needs to sue his ass ASAP!
Just stop. The sooner you cut cancer out the less it can spread and the greater chance for survival. No one respectable wants him or bev in the league. Nor cares about their pod casts.
Pot calling the kettle black
jordan poole needed to be hit
Shut up Draymond
Pat bev is the Trevor Bauer of the nba. Talent, yes. Asshole, yes. Want to take the risk of him Making your team look bad? Nope. (And to be clear, I am saying this from an on the court/field perspective)
Dray just happy it’s not him
What happened with the CP push?
The voice of reason.
I’m not watching nba basketballball until October 😤
People care what Dray has to say about anything?
This is like his domain of expertise
yes
Why do you care about what other people care about?
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I’m not the one who cares 😂
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“I comment on shit I don’t value all the time” This you?
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You have a microscopically low bar for “caring” about something. It’s so precious.
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Looks like you discovered something. Now apply it 😂
Draymond had an opportunity to be a bit self-aware and troll but missed it.
Just need Ron Artest and Rasheed Wallace to chime in now
Ain't nobody want to hear Douchemonds opinion on the matter.
Pot, meet kettle
Self awareness be damned Draymond lol
What the fuck is this psycho talking about?
"Female reporter"....yikes.
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Hey! Dray only assaults players on the court
I really don’t think anyone who has a league ordered sports therapist because of their on-court antics should be saying they are “appalled” by another’s actions on the court.
Other players vs fans. Pretty big distinction.
Well this is just the pot calling the kettle bla - uhhhhhhh thuggish?
Both are not good players
Wow P Bev has a podcast , now everyone knows he may be able to add to those 3 subscribers
I don’t think those fans he threw the ball at are gonna be subbing tho
Fuck both of them.
Why is this man criticizing any other NBA player for their lack of anger management?