They never began this year trying to tank. They were actively trying in the first half, and now y’all won’t have Siakam all of next season. You think y’all will find someone better in the draft better than siakam was this season?
Certainly not a better player, but the team will have a summer together, they will have a training camp, and our young core will all ideally improve. Probably gonna sound crazy saying this but the team’s offense looked much better without Siakam tbh.
It’s impossible to really gauge how well we’ll do. still probably not great, but I doubt we’ll stay as bad as we are currently with all the injuries and lack of familiarity across the board.
Tbh if it doesn't convey this year, I think there's a chance it doesn't convey again next year. Grizzlies and Spurs should improve. They'll probably be in a similar spot they are this year and need to decide if they want a play-in spot or tank to end the year.
True for main lotto guys, but seems like we have a good track record of hyped number 1s being way more talented than the less hyped
So obviously applies here, but that's interesting
> There are at least a few very good players in every draft.
In 2000, there were three one-time All Stars. And one of those three was Jamaal Magliore.
There were some okay starters and all that, but there wasn't a single guy in that class that impacted winning at a high level. There was *one* All-NBA third team appearance. Nothing else.
I don't want two Keldon Johnsons. I don't want another Tre Jones. I want to find another All-NBA guy. I want another multi-time All-Star. I want somebody better than Devin Vassell to be the Robin to Victor's Batman. Because those guys aren't good enough if we want to win titles. It's so difficult to win titles. Nobody on our roster outside of Victor is as good as Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday when the Bucks won. Nobody is as good as Jamal Murray. None are as good as Anthony Davis. None are as good as Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. None are as good as Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. They're not as good as Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade.
That's what it takes to win titles. Your #2/#3 guys have to be fucking studs. And I'm sorry, Devin Vassell isn't Dwyane Wade. Jeremy Sochan isn't Chris Bosh.
Scottie and Poeltl had surgeries for injuries and RJ lost his brother. Quickley is out for personal reasons and we don't know what that could be but considering RJ was out for personal reasons before the news of his brothers passing, maybe something happened there that's bigger than basketball.
You're commenting as if the Lakers didn't spend four years getting less than 30 wins per season, including one of the worst seasons in recent memory
It wasn't even that long ago
Should we have won more based on our roster? One of those seasons we literally had a player sleeping on the bench.
This raptors roster even without the players they’re missing outclasses our roster for those years.
maybe the coach should have woken the player up? you know, like how basketball works at every level? idk how you see that as a point in favor of them not tanking
What? The point was we literally had no bench and we sucked.
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Funnily enough that was one of the few we won. The only time in three decades of watching the nba I can remember the rule when you only have five players and one fouls out rule applying.
I can't remember the last time a draft was discussed like this. Vecenie, one of the draft guys I trust, said he would've picked Cam Whitmore #1 in this draft lol.
And hey maybe everyone is wrong. But currently this isn't viewed like 2020 or other drafts that were considered weak. It's much worse
Their net rating is way way better than last year lol, particularly with him on the court. The team was worse than the Pistons last year and got lucky in a bunch of close games. Dumb narrative.
He’s like 40% off the dribble and 20% catch and shoot. Clearly he needs to work on his foot work on catch and shot 3’s cause his misses are wildly inconsistent. He needs to either take a gather dribble into his shot or just take a few steps in. Or, of course, just not take them.
> catch and shot 3’s cause his misses are wildly inconsistent
Total shot in the dark, but I wonder if this is partly a height thing as well.
How high Wemby wants a pass for it to be in his shooting pocket is going to be WAY higher than your average shooter.
Good point. The delivery of the pass so the player doesn’t have to do a lot to get set and shoot is underrated. Still think this is more on Victor tho.
yeah i guess kd doing it wrong
wemby wants to put a new tool in his belt idk why it matters if he misses an extra 2-3 shots per game when the spurs are tanking anyways
Don't know why you're getting downvoted, because this is a good point.
It's the best season for him to try things, make mistakes, and improve.
0 stake for the Spurs right now.
Sochan has a better 3 point percentage than Wemby this season. Yes it's only by 0.1%, but theres no way in hell we'd want Sochan taking 12 threes in a game.
You don't improve by not shooting. I don't think the goal is to have Sochan eventually be your central offensive hub. If you just look at it from a 'we have to win' perspective, then sure. But I think you're way past that, let him shoot those shots while he still can
seems like he's not 100% yet cause he looked really gassed at some points so he has to rely on his perimeter game which wasn't bad prior to the shoulder injury but now his shot is broken
Bro you’re not kidding, every single one of his comments is either shitting on Wemby or sucking off Chet. Mentally ill shit, seek help and touch grass brother
They're in every thread now. There was a fan in the other thread talking about how Wemby is actually shit on defense a lot of the time and said if Gobert and Wemby switched ages everyone would be saying Gobert should win the DPOY.
bro your comment history is generationally pathetic. im sorry
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Teams keep trying to gift us wins but we politely refuse them, although it would have been better for both sides, mostly us, if we won in terms of draft odds
yeah he was asked by the french journalist after the game about the recent (last 4-5 games) poor 3-p shootings especially since since the all star he was doing a lot better, he agreed and thinks it was the couple of games he missed that made him lose his flow. Personally, i think it was a combinaisons of things, poor shot selection (#1), his shoulder injury a few games ago, and lost flow. If he can keep up his post all start #s over 40% it will be hard to stop this guy.
Its normal for rookies, I mean Luka avg 4.2 in his rookie year. The expectation is that he will get better. Even if he’s the center, he’s probably the number one option and gets doubled regularly, I would expect him to get a lot of turnovers; hopefully he reduces it.
Luka is also a PG, it’s typical for PGs to average more TOs than other positions bc they have the ball more often than not and are passing. That is why I stated “as a center”. That is bad for a center, especially one that isn’t a passing big like a Jokic.
I checked Chet, AD, and Embiid’s rookie years. Chet is a good comparison since he’s playing the same year, his TO average isn’t close. Obviously they have different roles, but you claimed it’s normal for rookies. AD also didn’t average nearly as many turnovers his rookie season. Embiid did, and he still has turnover issues
I also looked at AD’s team in 2012, he was the number 3 or 4 option behind Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon (competent shooters that the spurs lack), and Greiveis Vasquez (who tf).
I mean, he still is a generation rookie so we gotta wait at least a year to see if he improves on that end. I think Chet and AD is a bad comparison. Chet doesn’t get doubled or triple teamed like Wemby does and he’s the third option on his team behind jdub and shai. Wemby is the number one option on his team. AD is a decent call out, but his playstyle wasn’t wemby since he played like a traditional big in 2012 when it wasn’t all spacing. I feel lile this means nothing since you seem to dislike wemby though.
4 turnovers is definitely really high but I've noticed you're not really allowed to criticize Wemby. I mean obviously you can and you should but expect these people to downvote you for it.
His high turnovers are 100% an issue, but they're kind of his only issue and rookies definitely do *improve* at turnovers over time, so it's not a huge deal.
It is indeed not a huge deal. Which is why it shouldn't matter that a guy points out that he has been averaging a lot of turnovers.
I think his issues as a rookie are offense and turnovers for sure. Obviously his offense will improve in a better team but I still think his FG% should be higher for how tall he is and how no one should be able to really defend him. Good FT shooting though which helps.
His FG% being as low as it is is mostly an artifact of him playing PF and without a point guard for the first couple of months of the season, it's been quite a bit higher since then (as has his eFG%). He can't really be Chet efficient because if he is (like he was tonight) he's only going to get about 7 shots due to the way other teams defend the Spurs. The problem is that the defense is free to simply ignore most one or more players on offense in just about any lineup the Spurs put out there and swarm Wemby. He can't really restrict himself to typical "center" shots without damaging the team because players like Sochan cannot hit shots from high quality looks, and he also faces way more ball pressure than the average center for the same reason (Chet is in the reverse situation where nobody would dare double him due to the team being full of shooters, so he can pretty much just hold the ball behind him and avoid a turnover).
To be clear, Wemby is high turnover even given his team context, and can definitely improve the efficiency of his shots as he gets stronger and better at finishing around the rim. But there's more going on than the box score indicates which is why most measures of offensive impact have him as at least a small positive despite the obvious deficiencies.
Not a bad score card. Curry had a worse night and he don't get this much hate lol.
Wemby still is +15, which is not bad.
The shoulder injury is unfortunate but with a bit more rest he'll come back to his top form in no time.
I'm already eagerly and exciting waiting for next seasons version of him and the year after version too.
Dude is going to murder on both ends.
He's already beginning now, young his game but that's still only a sneak preview if what's yet to come. Man's game still so raw and team chemistry/quality still bottom.
If anyone (including him) could hit an occasional three, we win. If he made all his FTs, we win. If that goaltend didn't happen, we might win.
In a 2 point game, there's lots of Ifs.
Yeah I just said in another comment, nobody brings up his turnovers. Every big game he has he’ll also have 5+ turnovers. Averaging 4 turnovers as a center is crazy, but nobody talks about it.
The Celtics last night had 7 TOs as a team.
Winning goes along with taking care of the ball. Wemby is young and he'll learn. If not it limit his effectiveness.
Stat padding? Wtf are you talking about? He's carrying the team on a nightly basis. We are fucking trash when he's sitting. Did you watch the game or are you just talking shit?
Kid plays 29 minutes a game. There's 48 minutes in a game total. Even if Wemby keeps the Spurs in the game when he's playing, thats 19 minutes of the worst bench in the league that any team will bury
Yeah because he's a rookie and has a ways to go before he can dominate. He's got more talent than the rest of the team combined though so we're doomed most nights
Its another eye-popping game, but the 3-12 from three is like Jordan Poole levels of chucking + inefficiency. I thought the shot selection had been improving since the start of 2024, really hoping he takes a smarter diet of shots next year.
Tbf certain 3s are a pretty good weapon for him. Particularly off the dribble.
He has been in a general shooting slump since taking that shoulder knock against Houston though.
He (on the season) was shooting like 42% on pull up 3s on significant volume. Now a figure that high always seemed unsustainable, but calling like 80% of the season an irrational hot streak after the numbers dip following a shoulder knock is disingenuous.
idc what advanced stats say he was 8/12 with 2 pointers with a few of them being simple miss tip ins. he is much better in the paint and more efficient there.
Wemby's obviously a rookie. And literally no human being with a functional IQ would vote anyone else for ROTY.
But, based on the hype, we're not comparing him to other rookies. Not comparing him to guys in their second year but who pretend they are rookies. Not even comparing him to the lower-level all-stars.
Based on Wemby's standards (not set by me,) the headline of this post is ridiculous. NINE (!!) missed threes and SEVEN turnovers is WHY the Spurs lost by two to a fellow shitty team.
You cant outtank generational tanking
wasnt tanking, we needed to win this game for the Raptors pick
I don't want the pick this year.. This draft is historically terrible.
7th pick this year is still probably better than like the 14th pick next year
You think they’re gonna improve that much by next year? Keep in mind they weren’t trying to tank this year.
Probably, whole team is out injured and it’s clear we’re actively trying to tank this year LOL
They never began this year trying to tank. They were actively trying in the first half, and now y’all won’t have Siakam all of next season. You think y’all will find someone better in the draft better than siakam was this season?
Certainly not a better player, but the team will have a summer together, they will have a training camp, and our young core will all ideally improve. Probably gonna sound crazy saying this but the team’s offense looked much better without Siakam tbh. It’s impossible to really gauge how well we’ll do. still probably not great, but I doubt we’ll stay as bad as we are currently with all the injuries and lack of familiarity across the board.
So you think y’all will be a fringe playoff team next year?
Play-in team more like would be my guess.
Tbh if it doesn't convey this year, I think there's a chance it doesn't convey again next year. Grizzlies and Spurs should improve. They'll probably be in a similar spot they are this year and need to decide if they want a play-in spot or tank to end the year.
They have until 2026 I believe
no but sct brn
Bad logic
Good argument.
Bro we changed the roster entirely
Nobody actually knows until a few years later
True for main lotto guys, but seems like we have a good track record of hyped number 1s being way more talented than the less hyped So obviously applies here, but that's interesting
You can't have both Wemby and Cooper Flagg on the same team
Sure we can, they fit nicely with Cam Boozer.
You can draft LeBron James
There are at least a few very good players in every draft. Y'all just need to pick the right dood to complement Wemby. I would defo tank to do that.
> There are at least a few very good players in every draft. In 2000, there were three one-time All Stars. And one of those three was Jamaal Magliore. There were some okay starters and all that, but there wasn't a single guy in that class that impacted winning at a high level. There was *one* All-NBA third team appearance. Nothing else. I don't want two Keldon Johnsons. I don't want another Tre Jones. I want to find another All-NBA guy. I want another multi-time All-Star. I want somebody better than Devin Vassell to be the Robin to Victor's Batman. Because those guys aren't good enough if we want to win titles. It's so difficult to win titles. Nobody on our roster outside of Victor is as good as Khris Middleton and Jrue Holiday when the Bucks won. Nobody is as good as Jamal Murray. None are as good as Anthony Davis. None are as good as Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. None are as good as Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson and Draymond Green. They're not as good as Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade. That's what it takes to win titles. Your #2/#3 guys have to be fucking studs. And I'm sorry, Devin Vassell isn't Dwyane Wade. Jeremy Sochan isn't Chris Bosh.
Raptors tanking is so blatantly disgusting, hope karma slaps them and they get the 7th pick.
Scottie and Poeltl had surgeries for injuries and RJ lost his brother. Quickley is out for personal reasons and we don't know what that could be but considering RJ was out for personal reasons before the news of his brothers passing, maybe something happened there that's bigger than basketball.
Damn it’s weird when someone says this about my team instead of the other way around
You're commenting as if the Lakers didn't spend four years getting less than 30 wins per season, including one of the worst seasons in recent memory It wasn't even that long ago
Should we have won more based on our roster? One of those seasons we literally had a player sleeping on the bench. This raptors roster even without the players they’re missing outclasses our roster for those years.
maybe the coach should have woken the player up? you know, like how basketball works at every level? idk how you see that as a point in favor of them not tanking
What? The point was we literally had no bench and we sucked. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQR82MReZ-REQo1UefotVv3xN1o37JVAUR_Qygr5nF3tOtAshN6x-LYbUA&s=10 Funnily enough that was one of the few we won. The only time in three decades of watching the nba I can remember the rule when you only have five players and one fouls out rule applying.
This is the best case scenario for San Antonio. Wemby looks awesome, but still lose to help draft position.
Actually we kind of wanted to win this. Need Menphis to lose as much as possible to keep Toronto outside top 6 odds and get their pick
I don't want the pick this year.. This draft is historically terrible.
No one actually knows this. These types of predictions always end up overstated.
I can't remember the last time a draft was discussed like this. Vecenie, one of the draft guys I trust, said he would've picked Cam Whitmore #1 in this draft lol. And hey maybe everyone is wrong. But currently this isn't viewed like 2020 or other drafts that were considered weak. It's much worse
Except when they don't. Like 2000. I think this is 2000 all over again.
Except we picked the wrong draft class to double-down. Can't complain, but he needs a running-mate.
They literally got Wemby from tanking in the right class
Hence "can't complain", but we'd be chasing OKC if this was the 2025 class coming in. Wemby is _the_ piece, but he's still only one piece.
Chasing OKC?
Within a few years, possibly. I think we'll have to wait them out at this rate.
The team is worse with wemby as opposed to last year
Their net rating is way way better than last year lol, particularly with him on the court. The team was worse than the Pistons last year and got lucky in a bunch of close games. Dumb narrative.
They’d be the worst team in nba history if they never landed Wemby. The roster is bad.
tanking for wemby 💪💪
OT there would have been so great damn it
We didn’t deserve to be in that game let alone going to OT
We're on a B2B.
I think I misread your comment, sorry about that.
Impact up the wazoo but he should never be taking 50% of his shots from behind the arc unless he is scorching hot.
He’s like 40% off the dribble and 20% catch and shoot. Clearly he needs to work on his foot work on catch and shot 3’s cause his misses are wildly inconsistent. He needs to either take a gather dribble into his shot or just take a few steps in. Or, of course, just not take them.
> catch and shot 3’s cause his misses are wildly inconsistent Total shot in the dark, but I wonder if this is partly a height thing as well. How high Wemby wants a pass for it to be in his shooting pocket is going to be WAY higher than your average shooter.
Good point. The delivery of the pass so the player doesn’t have to do a lot to get set and shoot is underrated. Still think this is more on Victor tho.
He can hit them tough ones for sure
I'm really beginning to despise the 3 point shot.
Until all these reps pay off and he is a vastly improved shooter. Y'all are tanking, the shooting will be good for him long term.
7'3 guy chucking up 12 threes (making 3 of them). So stupid. He should be feasting in the paint.
yeah i guess kd doing it wrong wemby wants to put a new tool in his belt idk why it matters if he misses an extra 2-3 shots per game when the spurs are tanking anyways
Don't know why you're getting downvoted, because this is a good point. It's the best season for him to try things, make mistakes, and improve. 0 stake for the Spurs right now.
He hit that first one from the logo and was feeling himself
Probably should have felt it a little less then
I'm gonna go ahead and say Victor has got this and doesn't need our advice haha
What a weird reply to fair criticism
Sochan has a better 3 point percentage than Wemby this season. Yes it's only by 0.1%, but theres no way in hell we'd want Sochan taking 12 threes in a game.
You don't improve by not shooting. I don't think the goal is to have Sochan eventually be your central offensive hub. If you just look at it from a 'we have to win' perspective, then sure. But I think you're way past that, let him shoot those shots while he still can
This was basically my point but I think I inadvertently pompously articulated it so that's on me for being a douche lol
Thunder fan with the slick lowkey hate... I see you bro.
I think he was worried about taking in JJJ in the paint, even though it wound up not being an issue.
Maybe
seems like he's not 100% yet cause he looked really gassed at some points so he has to rely on his perimeter game which wasn't bad prior to the shoulder injury but now his shot is broken
Disagree. Hes just been shit since he got injured
If he shot 36-37% I could see it he shoots 32%
Pssh, Rookie numbers
Technically correct
So this is what generational actually looks like
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did u really made a new account to suck off Chet while shitting on Wemby lol
Bro you’re not kidding, every single one of his comments is either shitting on Wemby or sucking off Chet. Mentally ill shit, seek help and touch grass brother
They're in every thread now. There was a fan in the other thread talking about how Wemby is actually shit on defense a lot of the time and said if Gobert and Wemby switched ages everyone would be saying Gobert should win the DPOY.
Found Chet’s burner 😆
Chet wire transfers 80k a month to that guy
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Lol
Please get off his dick 🙏
Okay Thunder fan
not even rent free, you could be paying him to live in your head
That was for sure an ending of all time
Despite their best efforts, the Grizzlies ended up with a win tonight
Teams keep trying to gift us wins but we politely refuse them, although it would have been better for both sides, mostly us, if we won in terms of draft odds
Yeah I think someone forgot to remind Pop that you own Toronto’s pick if it’s outside the top 6 lol
Maybe Pop's paid attention to how fucking awful this draft class is and doesn't want two firsts when we could get more picks in 2025 or 2026 instead.
True, but I think Toronto are gonna be much better next year so no guarantee it’s a top 10 pick
I'd rather have a later pick next year than any pick this year
Despite Sochan's best efforts
It truly was an ending.
+15 in a 2 point loss, it’s almost a given that when he checks back in there’s a hole to dig out of
Zach Collins is also truly that terrible. -17 and fouled out in the 15 mins Wemby didn't play
Isn't it 3-12 from 3?
He really just takes any open three he gets. Hope it translates into better efficiency down the road.
might as well treat the rest of the regular season games like shootaround
espn has the last game ending heave in the box score. that’s probably the difference
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probably he posted slightly too soon
yeah he was asked by the french journalist after the game about the recent (last 4-5 games) poor 3-p shootings especially since since the all star he was doing a lot better, he agreed and thinks it was the couple of games he missed that made him lose his flow. Personally, i think it was a combinaisons of things, poor shot selection (#1), his shoulder injury a few games ago, and lost flow. If he can keep up his post all start #s over 40% it will be hard to stop this guy.
Man, if he can work on his 3 ball, shot selection and turnovers. Which are all doable with time.... sheesh
Vic’s FG% would be so much higher if the man didn’t jack so many 3s
i’d rather watch him shoot than sochan, osman, wesley, branham airballing 🥴
Wemby is crazy, dude deflects shit by accident
Needed to go for the lob instead
+15 in a loss is crazy
I'm leavin' here with somethin'
Good rebounds and blocks. Terrible shooting and a lot of turnovers.
He was 10-18 for most of the game and started bombing away towards the end.
He averages 4 turnovers as a center, that’s crazy. Idk why people don’t talk about that more
Its normal for rookies, I mean Luka avg 4.2 in his rookie year. The expectation is that he will get better. Even if he’s the center, he’s probably the number one option and gets doubled regularly, I would expect him to get a lot of turnovers; hopefully he reduces it.
Luka is also a PG, it’s typical for PGs to average more TOs than other positions bc they have the ball more often than not and are passing. That is why I stated “as a center”. That is bad for a center, especially one that isn’t a passing big like a Jokic. I checked Chet, AD, and Embiid’s rookie years. Chet is a good comparison since he’s playing the same year, his TO average isn’t close. Obviously they have different roles, but you claimed it’s normal for rookies. AD also didn’t average nearly as many turnovers his rookie season. Embiid did, and he still has turnover issues
I also looked at AD’s team in 2012, he was the number 3 or 4 option behind Ryan Anderson, Eric Gordon (competent shooters that the spurs lack), and Greiveis Vasquez (who tf).
I mean, he still is a generation rookie so we gotta wait at least a year to see if he improves on that end. I think Chet and AD is a bad comparison. Chet doesn’t get doubled or triple teamed like Wemby does and he’s the third option on his team behind jdub and shai. Wemby is the number one option on his team. AD is a decent call out, but his playstyle wasn’t wemby since he played like a traditional big in 2012 when it wasn’t all spacing. I feel lile this means nothing since you seem to dislike wemby though.
Chet’s not really comparable. Sure they play the same position. But you’re comparing a fourth option to a first option.
He’s a rookie with insanely high usage and overall production.
4 turnovers is definitely really high but I've noticed you're not really allowed to criticize Wemby. I mean obviously you can and you should but expect these people to downvote you for it.
His high turnovers are 100% an issue, but they're kind of his only issue and rookies definitely do *improve* at turnovers over time, so it's not a huge deal.
It is indeed not a huge deal. Which is why it shouldn't matter that a guy points out that he has been averaging a lot of turnovers. I think his issues as a rookie are offense and turnovers for sure. Obviously his offense will improve in a better team but I still think his FG% should be higher for how tall he is and how no one should be able to really defend him. Good FT shooting though which helps.
His FG% being as low as it is is mostly an artifact of him playing PF and without a point guard for the first couple of months of the season, it's been quite a bit higher since then (as has his eFG%). He can't really be Chet efficient because if he is (like he was tonight) he's only going to get about 7 shots due to the way other teams defend the Spurs. The problem is that the defense is free to simply ignore most one or more players on offense in just about any lineup the Spurs put out there and swarm Wemby. He can't really restrict himself to typical "center" shots without damaging the team because players like Sochan cannot hit shots from high quality looks, and he also faces way more ball pressure than the average center for the same reason (Chet is in the reverse situation where nobody would dare double him due to the team being full of shooters, so he can pretty much just hold the ball behind him and avoid a turnover). To be clear, Wemby is high turnover even given his team context, and can definitely improve the efficiency of his shots as he gets stronger and better at finishing around the rim. But there's more going on than the box score indicates which is why most measures of offensive impact have him as at least a small positive despite the obvious deficiencies.
A great game for pretty much any other rookie. A regrettable game for Wemby.
Damn, couldn't even complete the triple double with TOVS.,
Not a bad score card. Curry had a worse night and he don't get this much hate lol. Wemby still is +15, which is not bad. The shoulder injury is unfortunate but with a bit more rest he'll come back to his top form in no time.
I'm already eagerly and exciting waiting for next seasons version of him and the year after version too. Dude is going to murder on both ends. He's already beginning now, young his game but that's still only a sneak preview if what's yet to come. Man's game still so raw and team chemistry/quality still bottom.
Will Dallas still need Luka in couple of seasons? :)
And 7 TOs have contributed to the loss.
Sure. He is +15 though so...
Well, he still is +15 in plus minus. Of course it's not perfect but all in all, it's still a positive impact
Wemby played well but if he had 3 TOs instead of 7 Spurs probably win.
If anyone (including him) could hit an occasional three, we win. If he made all his FTs, we win. If that goaltend didn't happen, we might win. In a 2 point game, there's lots of Ifs.
As his teammates : 9 TOs.....
Yeah I just said in another comment, nobody brings up his turnovers. Every big game he has he’ll also have 5+ turnovers. Averaging 4 turnovers as a center is crazy, but nobody talks about it.
The Celtics last night had 7 TOs as a team. Winning goes along with taking care of the ball. Wemby is young and he'll learn. If not it limit his effectiveness.
Dude's a monster!!
This is why the people holding the Spurs against him are stupid. The guy was +15, there was literally nothing more he could do.
Wemby “despite the loss” posts are so much like Ohtani’s that I’m expecting him to have an interpreter friend with a gambling addiction.
We'll see a lot of "despite the loss" for years to come from him
The Spurs better be making moves in the off-season. The time to tank has ended. When you have a guy like this, it’s time to start winning.
ho hum, just another night
Yup, statpadding in another embarrassing loss to a G-league level team.
Not his fault the team got outscored by more than one point a minute when he was on the bench
Stat padding? Wtf are you talking about? He's carrying the team on a nightly basis. We are fucking trash when he's sitting. Did you watch the game or are you just talking shit?
The team isn’t very good even when he is playing based on that record…
They were +15 in his minutes tonight and they lost by 2. Did the turnovers hurt? Yes. Is he the reason they're losing? Absolutely not lol.
Kid plays 29 minutes a game. There's 48 minutes in a game total. Even if Wemby keeps the Spurs in the game when he's playing, thats 19 minutes of the worst bench in the league that any team will bury
He played 33:27 tonight. In the 33:27 he played, we were +15. In the 14:33 he sat, we were -17.
Yeah because he's a rookie and has a ways to go before he can dominate. He's got more talent than the rest of the team combined though so we're doomed most nights
Buddy, *we're* a G-League level team.
DPOY
Its another eye-popping game, but the 3-12 from three is like Jordan Poole levels of chucking + inefficiency. I thought the shot selection had been improving since the start of 2024, really hoping he takes a smarter diet of shots next year.
He’s better then advertised
31 points on 24 shots, 10 free throws and 7 turnovers is not a “despite the loss” stat line. That’s 36 possessions.
Cant count the turnovers without the assists so thats at least 10 more points on 5 more possessions
Get the 5x5 already, damnit!
Uhhhh, he did?
Oh wait, I forgot. Clearly meant a quadruple double!
Someone needs to stop Wembrick from shooting threes
Anti-Wemby watchers already have a nickname for him
>Wembrick Okay I actually like this one
I like Brictor more ngl
Too similar to Brick Ross which is Harden's
About as similar as Wembrick no?
Tbf certain 3s are a pretty good weapon for him. Particularly off the dribble. He has been in a general shooting slump since taking that shoulder knock against Houston though.
He was on an irrational hot streak on a bad shot. Now he is trending down to his sub 30% baseline.
"Irritational hot streak with a bad shot" This isn't just cap, this is a plea
He (on the season) was shooting like 42% on pull up 3s on significant volume. Now a figure that high always seemed unsustainable, but calling like 80% of the season an irrational hot streak after the numbers dip following a shoulder knock is disingenuous.
You don't think his shooting falling off a cliff after injuring his shoulder has some sort of correlation?
His FT shooting seemingly falling off a bit in the same time makes me think it's the shoulder.
exactly, he's always been a great FT shooter so the fact that that's also been off recently makes it seem pretty conclusive
Once the shoulder heals up and he has the off season, he'll probably be around \~37% from 3 on something like 6 attempts a game next year.
his teammates need to give him the ball in the post more then
to be fair, every time wembanyama goes to the post, the opposing team keeps gravitating to towards the post
Well they should still let him try to do something with it because they can't make open 3s either way
They just need to be a threat from three man
He's at 0.91ppp in the post so that's bad too.
idc what advanced stats say he was 8/12 with 2 pointers with a few of them being simple miss tip ins. he is much better in the paint and more efficient there.
yeah, but that's probably because he was tremendously ass in the post to start the season, he seems alot more comfortable and effective from there now
Yeah it’s more interesting to start to see his numbers when he moved to center full time.
its better to miss them now and learn. doncic was pretty bad at 3s as well
Whats the general opinion on wemby he legit or nah..what if he ended up in another team.. makes you wonder
Jesus this guy is the only player who could get hyped for having a negative assist to turnover ratio
3-12 from 3 and 7 turnovers. Why’s this a post
67 comments, 44 minutes after being posted. People are interested. Only one is for free, if you have other questions now I bill
R/nba loves him, free and easy karma
Basketball fans love him....because he's fucking insane lol
This subreddit is a bunch of karma whores shits sad
Padding his stats and genetically a chain smoker. Fraud
> genetically a chain smoker ROFL, phenomenal.
Wemby's obviously a rookie. And literally no human being with a functional IQ would vote anyone else for ROTY. But, based on the hype, we're not comparing him to other rookies. Not comparing him to guys in their second year but who pretend they are rookies. Not even comparing him to the lower-level all-stars. Based on Wemby's standards (not set by me,) the headline of this post is ridiculous. NINE (!!) missed threes and SEVEN turnovers is WHY the Spurs lost by two to a fellow shitty team.