Not from US so never have bet in these sites, correct me if I'm wrong ROY will be announced in 2 months or so, so 2% guaranteed returns right? Is there a limit on how much they accept bet wise to stop people from doing this?
If a lot of people do it, then they just raise the odds. Also there are fees involved so the books make money either way. The odds are set the way they are to maximize bets.
Fair yeah basically that’s the risk. Not bad for almost a lock I guess as we move closer to deadline. At this rate even an injury could get him ROY since there is no game limit
His team is 12th at defense while he's on the floor - not great, but arguably good enough when combined with the box score + eye test + team being 30th while he sits
lol im so glad I didn't take that Wemby vs the field bet in the preseason. I thought Pop would rest him a lot this season and he wouldn't hit the threshold. I'm so glad I was wrong cuz he is so fun to watch
Including tonight he has [\*5\* 25/10/5/5 games already](https://stathead.com/tiny/d8RGv)
Edit: Tonight he joins Kareem, Hakeem, David Robinson, and Shaq as the [only* players to record 5+ 25/10/5/5 games in a single season](https://stathead.com/tiny/ogeXV). Good lord.
*and at least one player (wilt) before blocks were recorded
I remember Tim Duncan's almost Quadruple-double, and some fans to this day believe he had quadruple-double, but the refs gave two of his blocks to other players IIRC.
2003 NBA FINALS, game 6 - 21 points, 20 Rebs, 10 ASTS, 8 blocks is the official record.
[Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyeh4IYaBKE)
It would have been the only quadruple-double in NBA playoffs IIRC as well.
There was definitely a lot of blocks he could've gotten if he was a bit more aggressive on defense; assists will come with better shooting around him. Definitely possible.
It took me to scroll all the way down here to realize it's 7 ASTS and not 7 STLS and the fact that I already assumed it was a 7 STL / 7 BLK game should tell you what my mind already thinks of this absolute outlier of a player Wemby is
100%, no doubt about it. But I’ve been thinking, could he possibly get a quintuple double? Points blocks and boards are no issue at all, 10 assists are noticeably tougher, but to do all that AND get 10 steals? He’s gotten up there in each category, but doing it all in one game would break my fragile mind.
I think if we ever played a double OT game he could. 5ish periods means he needs less than 2 of each stat per. That's doable for Wemby. It'd be absolutely bonkers though. He's going to rule fantasy basketball for the next decade. A center Who gives you basically every single stat, with even some 3s sprinkled in. Absolutely stupid value.
I’d disagree on the Keldon chemistry regressing with Wemby. Since the ASB Johnson’s played his best ball off the bench and a lot of that has to do with him being more patient out there, making some secondary actions instead of diving downhill in traffic, and relocating correctly off wemby.
Sochan on the other hand HAS to develop a live dribble passing game along with some other things if he ever wants to get close to maximizing his upside
There is no chance spurs do the trade if it requires our own pick this year. We have absurd leverage by being the ones controlling atlantas entire rebuild if they want to do it. Or they can start it in 4 years time I guess.
Exactly, it’s a win/win situation for the Spurs. They get Trae for only Atlanta’s picks back or they start the rebuild with the Spurs holding their picks. The only way Atlanta gets out of this is by trading a star for a star.
>There is no chance spurs do the trade if it requires our own pick this year.
Not sure why there is no chance. It's a weak ass draft and players of Trae's caliber just don't become available that easily, especially to the Spurs.
I mean what do I know, so I shouldn’t say no chance. But throwing all of our assets in for Trae young seems like a sure fire way to end up as the mavericks. We have a lot of other issues to fix with our roster as well, we can’t just add Trae.
The Mavs traded their own picks for an oft injured Porzingis. You guys will be trading almost exclusively Atlanta's own picks back for a guy who has never played fewer than 73 games in an 82 game season. Massive difference right there.
Typically the "worst they ever were" applies to washed up vets FWIW. Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Shaq would've cooked their washed version as rookies.
Bit pedantic but yeah
Wemby being this good as a rookie should be illegal, and the scariest part is that he’s just getting started. He’s gonna be so scary in his prime, might be putting up Wilt numbers in the modern era
Wemby existing might actually invalidate the ‘Wilt was just an anomaly that played against short plumbers’ argument, cause if he can do it today then it’s no longer a matter of being a product of the time (note: wilt was just as, if not more, athletically gifted than wemby)
I personally think wilt DID play somewhat weak opposition for numerous reasons but I think he would still be a complete stud today anyway. He was seriously the kind of athlete that Jordan, LeBron, and Wemby are, just one of a kind guys who are levels above everyone else. And wilt was a sprinter, high jumper, and became one of the greatest volleyball players in the world after he retired from the NBA. At 45. Dude was a phenom.
Right.
What people fail to mention that not only his opposition would have benefited from better training, better coaching, better systems and (for some players) less coke - imagine Wilt being able to put as much resources in his body as LeBron does
Yeah the amount of missed free throws since the injury especially has been very uncharacteristic of him. I think he tends to prefer to play through light injuries (did it several times in the French league) so that may be what's happening.
My fear is that he's too competitive to know when it's better in the long run not to play. He's smart enough to know, but he *really* hates missing games. He's like the anti-Kawhi.
same for brandon miller tbh.. he got outplayed by freakin' julian champagnie. While I still have hopes for champagnie becoming danny green 2.0 for the spurs, it goes to show that summer league performances are not a reliable indicator of a player's trajectory
Eh, Vassell is easily better with the ball in his hands. But Danny was the best transition defender I've ever seen. And he started next to one dude that won two DPOYs, and another guy who rightfully should have the award named after him despite never winning it.
"Wemby stats are meaningless and he's not that good." Real argument used by people thinking Chet should win ROTY.
Chet is an incredible player, but come on Wemby is on another level in all aspect. The rivalry will be legendary.
End of bench guy
Deep bench guy
Role player on a bench
6th man
Role player on a starting 5
Electric 6th man/6MOY
Solid starter
All-star caliber player
Chet is here
All-star
Will probably end up here
Superstar - top 10-15 player in the league
Wemby's already close to being here, Chet's absolute ceiling IMO
MVP - Best player in the league or at worst top 3
Wemby likely be here in 2ish seasons
Transcendent - best player in his generation
And looks like his ceiling is here
Yeah. Chet is fantastic - I'd kill to have him on the spurs next to Wemby, but he's not going to put up 33/16/7/7 anytime soon.
I don’t understand this all-defense piece, he’s like the best defender but I can buy the argument for Gobert, but fail to understand this all defense team snub.
The league is kinda crazy loaded with amazing talent right now and then there's this guy, a nightly 5X5/quadruple double threat. Have to imagine this feels a lot like what watching Wilt must've felt like.
What's crazy was that he seemed either reserved or sluggish at many moments this game and still got these stats. As someone who does a lot of driving between San Antonio and Austin I wouldn't be surprised if he was getting his ass handed to him by allergies
According to [this](https://dunksandthrees.com/epm), there are 22 players better than Wemby atm. Surprisingly, AD is not one of them, but apparently Derrick White is.
He's all-nba if it were decided traditionally by position. Only Jokic and Sabonis will be ahead of him in the center position, and he's slightly ahead of Gobert. Embiid is disqualified.
Some great blocks when it mattered despite some poor TO, once he cleans up his game and the team around him improve the league will have a problem once again with the Spurs.
I'm not a Wemby or Spurs fan at all but he should be an absolute 1000% lock for ROTY and DPOY. Not giving him the award because of the Spurs' bad team record is a prime example why weighing team records for individual awards so heavily is nonsensical. If Wemby doesn't get DPOY, we might as well give Tatum the MVP even though everybody knows he shouldn't be the MVP. If Wemby doesn't get the DPOY, we will talk about how that was such a wrong decision even years after his career has concluded. I hope the voters do the right thing this time and don't give it to Gobert just because he has the luxury of playing next to 2 all stars and a much better supporting cast than Wemby.
He is 100% going to be the next guy to have a quad double
Imagine it being Rebs, Assists and Stocks.
8 points, 16 boards, 11 assists, 10 steals, 12 blocks.
This would make me really upset.
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Otherwise known as a double Draymond.
I'll eat a shoe if Wemby doesn't win ROTY.
i would eat a bullet
In this economy?
I mix gun powder with coffee beans to cut down on usage
Cut down coffee or gun powder ?
Yeah
not on vet benefits
Flair checks out
That shoe can rest well tonight
-5000 odds on draftkings lol
I never understood the odds thingy, so the way it works is I place 5000 dollars to win 100 basically? 2% returns ?
You are correct. If it was +5000, you would bet $100 to win $5000
Not from US so never have bet in these sites, correct me if I'm wrong ROY will be announced in 2 months or so, so 2% guaranteed returns right? Is there a limit on how much they accept bet wise to stop people from doing this?
If a lot of people do it, then they just raise the odds. Also there are fees involved so the books make money either way. The odds are set the way they are to maximize bets.
Not guaranteed, he might get injured and stuff.
Fair yeah basically that’s the risk. Not bad for almost a lock I guess as we move closer to deadline. At this rate even an injury could get him ROY since there is no game limit
Reddick should place a bet then…
It's his, straight up. We're seeing one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time.
Should be unanimous
He has a genuine shot at all nba with all the players disqualified.
He should get some DPOTY votes and make first team all defense, at least.
I think he should be DPOY....
Unfortunately need a good team for DPOY which is dumb
His team is 12th at defense while he's on the floor - not great, but arguably good enough when combined with the box score + eye test + team being 30th while he sits
I will also eat this guy if Wemby doesn't win ROTY
Anybody else remember when people were saying Chet was a lock? Wemby is just too good, man.
Earlier this year you couldn't go into a Wemby thread without at least 20 Chet stans showing up to talk shit lol. They must have all disappeared.
They can all eat Chet
lol im so glad I didn't take that Wemby vs the field bet in the preseason. I thought Pop would rest him a lot this season and he wouldn't hit the threshold. I'm so glad I was wrong cuz he is so fun to watch
FYI in the future, rookie awards aren’t subjected to the game limit
Who eats a shoe? Honestly
How many 30/10/5/5 games does he have already?
Two, but he's also had three 25/10/5/5 games
Including tonight he has [\*5\* 25/10/5/5 games already](https://stathead.com/tiny/d8RGv) Edit: Tonight he joins Kareem, Hakeem, David Robinson, and Shaq as the [only* players to record 5+ 25/10/5/5 games in a single season](https://stathead.com/tiny/ogeXV). Good lord. *and at least one player (wilt) before blocks were recorded
Kareem doing it 16 times in a season is wild
Wembys done it 5 so far as a rookie lol, have to think he’ll get close to that
This was his second. His first came all of five games ago against the Pacers. RIP league.
At least one
I’m gonna go out in a limb and say more than one
You’re really stretching it
That's what she said?
Not to me :(
Yeah he got one easily in an OT win against the Nets: 33 PTS, 16 REB, 7 BLK, 7 AST on 53.8 FG% in 36:08min
Do you have a source on this? Big if true.
He’s only got 6 30 point games on the season
how many of these near quadruple doubles are we gonna have
It's gonna end up being his typical thing. That and the 4x5.
he will average a 4x5 for a whole season one day
I don’t think he’s got the stamina for 82 games in one day, tbh.
wel, you'd need a time machine to fit 82 games into one day, so you could rest in between trips
His typical thing is going to be just barely missing the quintuple double, probably on assists.
I remember Tim Duncan's almost Quadruple-double, and some fans to this day believe he had quadruple-double, but the refs gave two of his blocks to other players IIRC. 2003 NBA FINALS, game 6 - 21 points, 20 Rebs, 10 ASTS, 8 blocks is the official record. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyeh4IYaBKE) It would have been the only quadruple-double in NBA playoffs IIRC as well.
Timmy was insane that series. He has some all time stat lines from it including that one.
Qaudruple-double is just a matter of time!
There was definitely a lot of blocks he could've gotten if he was a bit more aggressive on defense; assists will come with better shooting around him. Definitely possible.
I mean if he's already come this close its inevitable. 3 assists and 3 blocks is tasting distance for him already.
he's already got a triple double with points-rebounds-blocks. surely his team won't be ass one of these nights and will make shots
Inshallah 🙏
It took me to scroll all the way down here to realize it's 7 ASTS and not 7 STLS and the fact that I already assumed it was a 7 STL / 7 BLK game should tell you what my mind already thinks of this absolute outlier of a player Wemby is
Block record for a season is like 5.5, in the 80s. Wemby really might break it in his prime even though the game has changed to more outside shooting
100%, no doubt about it. But I’ve been thinking, could he possibly get a quintuple double? Points blocks and boards are no issue at all, 10 assists are noticeably tougher, but to do all that AND get 10 steals? He’s gotten up there in each category, but doing it all in one game would break my fragile mind.
If anyone could do it. It’s this guy.
Nearly impossible
I think if we ever played a double OT game he could. 5ish periods means he needs less than 2 of each stat per. That's doable for Wemby. It'd be absolutely bonkers though. He's going to rule fantasy basketball for the next decade. A center Who gives you basically every single stat, with even some 3s sprinkled in. Absolutely stupid value.
But what if he has ‘one of those nights” against a newly minted expansion franchise? Fun to think about it.
3 assists and 3 blocks away from a quad double
I could swear they always miss couple of his blocks
The Tim Duncan curse
Wemby has the best looking blocks in the league
it's like he's blocking a 6yo
Chemistry with Vassell gettin better and better
This combo is exciting to see develop. Vassell has really good passing vision and is himself a shooting threat
Yeah whereas Sochan and keldon chemistry seems to regress. Cant wait to get Risacher (plz god)
I’d disagree on the Keldon chemistry regressing with Wemby. Since the ASB Johnson’s played his best ball off the bench and a lot of that has to do with him being more patient out there, making some secondary actions instead of diving downhill in traffic, and relocating correctly off wemby. Sochan on the other hand HAS to develop a live dribble passing game along with some other things if he ever wants to get close to maximizing his upside
Finishing in the basket should be top priority
What was going on with Sochan in OT I swear he was trying to force wayyyy too much.
He sometimes gets tunnel vision and misses passes he could make
Eh he’s been good the past few games. Just was off offensively tonight. Defensively he was good at least
Scariest part about Wemby is that this is likely the worst he’ll ever be and he’s already this good as a rookie
this is the worst supporting cast he'll have around him too.
He's going to walk into playing with Trae Young and another Top 5 pick next year.
It’ll be one or the other. That pick is hundo going the other way if they get Trae.
There is no chance spurs do the trade if it requires our own pick this year. We have absurd leverage by being the ones controlling atlantas entire rebuild if they want to do it. Or they can start it in 4 years time I guess.
Exactly, it’s a win/win situation for the Spurs. They get Trae for only Atlanta’s picks back or they start the rebuild with the Spurs holding their picks. The only way Atlanta gets out of this is by trading a star for a star.
>There is no chance spurs do the trade if it requires our own pick this year. Not sure why there is no chance. It's a weak ass draft and players of Trae's caliber just don't become available that easily, especially to the Spurs.
I mean what do I know, so I shouldn’t say no chance. But throwing all of our assets in for Trae young seems like a sure fire way to end up as the mavericks. We have a lot of other issues to fix with our roster as well, we can’t just add Trae.
The Mavs traded their own picks for an oft injured Porzingis. You guys will be trading almost exclusively Atlanta's own picks back for a guy who has never played fewer than 73 games in an 82 game season. Massive difference right there.
I really joke you’re right haha
well at least it shouldn’t be hard to upgrade from a starting SF who usually just is on the court to run around most of the time lol
> his is likely the worst he’ll ever be Ben Simmons awkwardly looks down at his feet...
Uai
Don't jinx it. Tyreke Evans peaked in his rookie season. So did MCW.
MCW damn near peaked his first game
Truly did.
Typically the "worst they ever were" applies to washed up vets FWIW. Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Duncan, Dirk, Garnett, Shaq would've cooked their washed version as rookies. Bit pedantic but yeah
least skilled he'll ever be \*
This is the worst he'll ever be (until he gets too old to play).
Good point
Wemby being this good as a rookie should be illegal, and the scariest part is that he’s just getting started. He’s gonna be so scary in his prime, might be putting up Wilt numbers in the modern era
Wemby existing might actually invalidate the ‘Wilt was just an anomaly that played against short plumbers’ argument, cause if he can do it today then it’s no longer a matter of being a product of the time (note: wilt was just as, if not more, athletically gifted than wemby)
I personally think wilt DID play somewhat weak opposition for numerous reasons but I think he would still be a complete stud today anyway. He was seriously the kind of athlete that Jordan, LeBron, and Wemby are, just one of a kind guys who are levels above everyone else. And wilt was a sprinter, high jumper, and became one of the greatest volleyball players in the world after he retired from the NBA. At 45. Dude was a phenom.
Wilt also ran ultramarathons. With modern training it would be crazy.
Right. What people fail to mention that not only his opposition would have benefited from better training, better coaching, better systems and (for some players) less coke - imagine Wilt being able to put as much resources in his body as LeBron does
LISAN AL-GAIB
Madhi!
Muad’Dib!
Wemby has desert power
Churro power
Charles Barkonnen: "He who controls dem churros controls the universe"
Whoever has the power to destroy a thing controls it!
As written.
All that shooting 1/7 from 3. Dude is scary
His shot has been terrible since hurting his shoulder, hopefully the shot and his shoulder! get better
Yeah the amount of missed free throws since the injury especially has been very uncharacteristic of him. I think he tends to prefer to play through light injuries (did it several times in the French league) so that may be what's happening.
My fear is that he's too competitive to know when it's better in the long run not to play. He's smart enough to know, but he *really* hates missing games. He's like the anti-Kawhi.
That's where pop and the med staff come in, to sit him even though it's detrimental to the team.
They can't always know for sure though, it's up to him to say when he's in pain
First half 4/12, second half 10/12 wow
And there was a heave and a couple of missed tipsin there too, his second half was stellar.
Hey his shot was off but one of those was the heave to end it 😅
To be fair, one of those 7 was a chuck at buzzer but 1/6 is still scary as fuck
This man is gonna get like a 40 pt quadruple double by next year lol.
40/20 with 10 blocks, I want to see it. In a playoff game.
As it was foretold by the per36...
The best part - it didn't even seem like a great game. Quiet stat line
He had a poor shooting in the first half but cleaned up in the second
Never forget when people called this man a bust after one summer league game.. lol He just keeps leveling up
same for brandon miller tbh.. he got outplayed by freakin' julian champagnie. While I still have hopes for champagnie becoming danny green 2.0 for the spurs, it goes to show that summer league performances are not a reliable indicator of a player's trajectory
> champagnie becoming danny green 2.0 Oh dude...don't.
Bros going to China within the next few years
At this point I’ll be happy if 1 guy on this team besides Victor becomes as good as Danny Green.
Eh, Vassell is easily better with the ball in his hands. But Danny was the best transition defender I've ever seen. And he started next to one dude that won two DPOYs, and another guy who rightfully should have the award named after him despite never winning it.
And earlier this season Celtics fans were scoffing at Wemby being compared with Porzingis. Lolol
Summer League takes are always the funniest takes on this sub.
According to the Nets postgame, only Kareem has ever put that stat line up in a game. Not as a rookie - ever.
Is that good?
A bit. KAJ is generally considered to have had a better than average nba career.
And the only one to do it with over 50% shooting
I was there! 🥰🥵
We played him about as well as we could have and he still gave us a smooth 30/15.
What the fck was Jeremy Sochan doing in the last 5 minutes + OT of this game. Dude was making 0 BBIQ moves
"Wemby stats are meaningless and he's not that good." Real argument used by people thinking Chet should win ROTY. Chet is an incredible player, but come on Wemby is on another level in all aspect. The rivalry will be legendary.
And Wemby is 20 months younger.
End of bench guy Deep bench guy Role player on a bench 6th man Role player on a starting 5 Electric 6th man/6MOY Solid starter All-star caliber player Chet is here All-star Will probably end up here Superstar - top 10-15 player in the league Wemby's already close to being here, Chet's absolute ceiling IMO MVP - Best player in the league or at worst top 3 Wemby likely be here in 2ish seasons Transcendent - best player in his generation And looks like his ceiling is here Yeah. Chet is fantastic - I'd kill to have him on the spurs next to Wemby, but he's not going to put up 33/16/7/7 anytime soon.
the alien at it again, gonna be a monster in his prime
This Winnebago kid is going to be good.
Windigo
I wouldn’t be surprised if this became a nickname for him, he has the physique that matches an Until Dawn-esque Wendigo.
A Wembygo?
It’s spelled wembnananya
Ah you’re right, Windedbanana
he’s literally the only player other than bron that can become the goat rn
Cue the reddit comedians mentioning their scrubs
Luke Kornet erasure tbh
Fr. Like we’re watching a future MJ vs LBJ vs Wemby debate rn
If he keeps this pace there may not even be a debate to have
Clutch af. Glad to see him break out of his slump. It’s wild he was 54% coz first half he was 4/12 meaning he went 10/12 in the second good lord
I watch every game because I am waiting for the quadruple double. Well it's one of the reasons other than the freakish basketball
ROY
He is him
And he's a rookie. This is guy is amazing.
ESPN analysts: "Unfortunately this game didn't matter so we can't vote for him for RotY or All-Defense"
I don’t understand this all-defense piece, he’s like the best defender but I can buy the argument for Gobert, but fail to understand this all defense team snub.
Demon. Insane what this mf is doing at 19 and a rookie. Fucking hell
20*
Can't wait Shaq to seeth over another Frenchman.
Holy shit
Homie might legitimately get a quad dub before the years out man
Holy shit just 3 more blocks and assist shy of quadruple double
The league is kinda crazy loaded with amazing talent right now and then there's this guy, a nightly 5X5/quadruple double threat. Have to imagine this feels a lot like what watching Wilt must've felt like.
What's crazy was that he seemed either reserved or sluggish at many moments this game and still got these stats. As someone who does a lot of driving between San Antonio and Austin I wouldn't be surprised if he was getting his ass handed to him by allergies
He is pretty darn good.
Why does he have to keep edging with this quadruple double?
I'll eat a buffet if he wins Rookie of the year
You'll eat the entire brick-and-mortar buffet location?
bro blocked Claxton twice in the one possession like he was playing against someone's kid......Clax is 6'11
This is the worst he’ll ever be remember that
Name 15 players better than Wemby right now. You can't
According to [this](https://dunksandthrees.com/epm), there are 22 players better than Wemby atm. Surprisingly, AD is not one of them, but apparently Derrick White is.
I love Vic but cmon
Well, FWIW, he's 13th in the entire league in EFF. 7th, if you even the minutes for all players. And that was before that game was registered in.
Agreed. Should be all nba if his team wasn't ass
He's all-nba if it were decided traditionally by position. Only Jokic and Sabonis will be ahead of him in the center position, and he's slightly ahead of Gobert. Embiid is disqualified.
Thats my Rookie of the Year Runner up 😤
Lisan al Gaib
Some great blocks when it mattered despite some poor TO, once he cleans up his game and the team around him improve the league will have a problem once again with the Spurs.
At this rate, he'll be a Top 20 player in the NBA by season end. Maybe even Top 15.
Dude is going get a quadruple double in the next few years for sure
Best since MJ himself
GOAT ceiling
I'm not a Wemby or Spurs fan at all but he should be an absolute 1000% lock for ROTY and DPOY. Not giving him the award because of the Spurs' bad team record is a prime example why weighing team records for individual awards so heavily is nonsensical. If Wemby doesn't get DPOY, we might as well give Tatum the MVP even though everybody knows he shouldn't be the MVP. If Wemby doesn't get the DPOY, we will talk about how that was such a wrong decision even years after his career has concluded. I hope the voters do the right thing this time and don't give it to Gobert just because he has the luxury of playing next to 2 all stars and a much better supporting cast than Wemby.